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In the phone call with Zelensky’s aides in 2019, Giuliani was careful to avoid explicitly asking for a favor, according to the transcript. “I have no interest in anybody not telling the truth or exaggerating. It isn’t about political favor,” Giuliani said on the call. He also seemed keenly aware of the dilemma he was creating for the Ukrainians, and how it might make them feel. “You shouldn’t feel terrible,” he said. “All we need from the President is to say, ‘I’m putting an honest prosecutor [on these investigations], and he will dig up the evidence that presently exists.’”

But from Ukraine’s perspective, the call put the Zelensky government in a perilous position. “That first phone call left me in a state of shock,” says Novikov, who participated in the call along with Andriy Yermak, then a top adviser to Zelensky and currently his chief of staff. “After we hung up the phone, without a shadow of a doubt I knew that we were in grave danger.”

https://time.com/5937491/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-trump-impeachment/

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In Police Abuse Case, Giuliani’s Balance Tested

By ELEANOR RANDOLPH
AUG. 16, 1997 12 AM PT
TIMES STAFF WRITER
NEW YORK —  

An ex-prosecutor, New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani has a tough-guy, pro-cop image that has helped him garner credit for the city’s 54% drop in serious crime.

When police and federal officials found the makings of a bomb in a Brooklyn apartment a few weeks ago, the mayor shared the spotlight. He was also smiling for the cameras when police nabbed a group who allegedly had been using deaf Mexicans as virtual slaves to sell trinkets in the subways.

But when a young Haitian immigrant charged that he was tortured by a white patrolman who shoved a bathroom plunger into his rectum, Giuliani was forced to move just as swiftly to show that he could do more than bask in the reflected glory of the city’s police force.

The mayor’s predicament was made pointedly clear when Abner Louima, the Haitian who suffered the alleged attack on Aug. 9 in Brooklyn’s 70th Police Precinct bathroom, said that an attacker told him: “This is Giuliani time, not Dinkins time.” The quote echoed the bitter 1993 mayoral race in which Giuliani defeated David N. Dinkins, the city’s first black mayor, using a strong law-and-order campaign.

 
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An investigation has been launched, one policeman has been charged with assault and a second officer was indicted Friday on unspecified charges. Eleven members of the NYPD were transferred or suspended pending investigations.

But questions remain as New York moves into a summer weekend with possibilities of protest marches, and Giuliani faces a publicity avalanche as he gears up for his fall reelection campaign.

On Friday, Giuliani said the “Giuliani time” quote “is utterly contradictory from what I want from the police, from what I require from the police, utterly contradictory with my entire career, which has been devoted to protecting the rights of all people. The remark is as perverted as the alleged act.”

In ordering the reviews of the incident, the mayor wanted to know why a man arrested at a dance hall brawl ended up critically and brutally injured. He wanted to know where the evidence went--there were reports that the plunger is among items that are missing. And Giuliani was asking why it took an hour and a half for an ambulance to take the injured man to a hospital.

 

 

“I’d like an explanation for why people sat around while he was suffering and in pain,” an indignant Giuliani told the cameras on Thursday.

Moreover, the mayor visited Louima twice in the hospital where the 30-year-old has been in critical condition and is recuperating from a ruptured bladder and rectum.

By Friday, however, the mayor was also worried about whether the incident would tar the entire 38,000-officer police force.

“I believe that this is a situation in which the reputations of police officers will unfairly be affected,” Giuliani said on his morning call-in radio show. “Prejudice means taking isolated facts, which may be true or untrue, and spreading that out into a gross, irrational over-generalization.”

“Really, the community doesn’t have a grudge against Mr. Giuliani,” said Chantal Pierre-Louis, a spokesman for the Haitian Center in Brooklyn. “But even if we feel he’s really looking into it, we don’t want to just sit and let it pass by. We want to put pressure on them so that the police departments don’t do such things to other people.”

A coalition of Haitian organizations issued a statement charging that the attack “fits a pattern of police brutality against those who do not resemble, speak or behave in a manner similar to what police officers have come to expect.”

Norman Siegel, head of the New York Civil Liberties Union, told reporters that what happened in Brooklyn “could happen in a dozen other neighborhoods” of the city.

Former Mayor Dinkins sidestepped direct criticism of Giuliani, saying: “I hope the people of our city will demand of our Police Department that they behave in an appropriate manner.” But Democratic mayoral candidate Al Sharpton was not so reticent, telling reporters Friday: “I smell a cover-up.”

The first policeman arrested in the incident was Justin Volpe, 25, who has denied that he attacked Louima in the brutal way described to reporters and investigators. Volpe has a four-year record with the force, and his father is a retired police officer well known in New York for helping track down art-related crimes in the city.

Volpe’s father has said his son, who is white, once dated a black woman and is a tough cop who had never been “mean” or “vindictive.”

A second officer in the 70th Precinct, Charles Schwarz, 31, is the subject of a sealed indictment and is cooperating with the investigation, Police Commissioner Howard Safir said Friday.

Volpe’s lawyer told reporters Friday that he saw no way that his client could get a fair trial, given the storm of publicity about the case.

The level of media attention is also troubling Giuliani’s supporters, who know that August is a time when there is little other news to take over the front pages of New York’s energetic newspapers. The mayor has been far ahead of his Democratic opponents in the polls, but there are many political careers that have been fractured over the mishandling of one event--a riot, an ice storm, a police brutality case.

The New York Times, for example, noted in a front page headline that the “Mayor Who Linked Name to Police Success Is Now Facing a Very Ugly Police Failure.”

The New York Daily News, which has been mostly kind to Giuliani in its editorials, said in one article: “Now the spotlight has turned from the city’s world-famous drop in crime and toward something messier.”

The New York media also reminded viewers and readers that Giuliani ran four years ago on a platform promising to improve the quality of life with stepped-up police enforcement. At the same time, the mayor’s efforts over the last few years to cut back funds and support for independent reviews of police brutality charges have become news once again.

Last year, New York paid $22 million to settle police brutality cases (up from $9.9 million in 1992).

“I think [Giuliani] did a superb job of moving right in and identifying immediately that this was beyond any doubt unacceptable and criminal behavior that violated every norm of democratic policing,” said Gerald Lynch, president of John Jay College of Criminal Justice.

But Lynch, like others, wants the mayor to go deeper. In particular, he suggested that Giuliani should follow a number of top crime commission recommendations that police should have more training and education and longer apprenticeships with older police officers who could root out those who might move from controlling crime to committing it.

Times special correspondent Lisa Meyer contributed to this story.

 

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Rudy Giuliani was not immediately available for comment.

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Federal Investigators Execute Search Warrant at Rudy Giuliani’s Apartment

Prosecutors obtained the warrant as part of an investigation into whether Mr. Giuliani broke lobbying laws as President Trump’s personal lawyer.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/nyregion/rudy-giuliani-trump-ukraine-warrant.html

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I barely knew the guy. Somebody hired him to unrig the election. It was a disastuh. Fired him like a dog, but you won't report that; you're fake news. I won the election by millions of votes, but this loser couldn't find them. Can you believe that? Millions of votes! Then they arrest patriots in the Capitol for walking around and hugging policemen. I saw it on TV.

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Full NYTimes article below. Do note that Trump's political appointees at Justice had been blocking the investigation even after the election and required the confirmation of Merrick Garland before it could proceed. The article is also a good refresher. 

Federal Investigators Search Rudy Giuliani’s Apartment and Office
Prosecutors obtained the search warrants as part of an investigation into whether Mr. Giuliani broke lobbying laws as President Trump’s personal lawyer.

Federal investigators in Manhattan executed search warrants early Wednesday at the home and office of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former New York City mayor who became President Donald J. Trump’s personal lawyer, stepping up a criminal investigation into Mr. Giuliani’s dealings in Ukraine, three people with knowledge of the investigation said.

The investigators seized Mr. Giuliani’s electronic devices and searched his apartment on Madison Avenue and his office on Park Avenue at about 6 a.m., two of the people said.

The execution of search warrants is an extraordinary action for prosecutors to take against a lawyer, let alone a lawyer for a former president. It was a major development in the long-running investigation into Mr. Giuliani and a remarkable moment in his long arc as a public figure.

As mayor, Mr. Giuliani won national recognition for steering New York through the dark days after the Sept. 11 attacks, and earlier in his career, he led the same U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan that is investigating him now, earning a reputation as a hard-charging prosecutor who took on organized crime and corrupt politicians.

In recent years, however, his image has been tarred by his effort to help Mr. Trump to dig up dirt in Ukraine on President Biden’s son and Mr. Trump’s repeated attempts in court to overturn the results of the 2020 election with baseless claims of widespread fraud.

Mr. Giuliani’s lawyer, Robert J. Costello, called the searches unnecessary because his client had offered to answer prosecutors’s questions, except those regarding Mr. Giuliani’s privileged communications with the former president.

“What they did today was legal thuggery,” Mr. Costello said. “Why would you do this to anyone, let alone someone who was the associate attorney general, United States attorney, the mayor of New York City and the personal lawyer to the 45th president of the United States.”

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The federal authorities have largely focused on whether Mr. Giuliani illegally lobbied the Trump administration in 2019 on behalf of Ukrainian officials and oligarchs, who at the time were helping Mr. Giuliani search for damaging information on Mr. Trump’s political rivals, including Mr. Biden, who was then a leading contender for the Democratic presidential nomination.

The United States attorney’s office in Manhattan and the F.B.I. had  sought for months to secure a search warrant for Mr. Giuliani’s phones.

Under Mr. Trump, senior political appointees in the Justice Department repeatedly sought to block such a warrant, The New York Times reported, slowing the investigation as it was gaining momentum last year. After Merrick B. Garland was confirmed as Mr. Biden’s attorney general, the Justice Department lifted its objection to the search.

While the warrants are not an explicit accusation of wrongdoing against Mr. Giuliani, their execution shows that the investigation has entered an aggressive new phase. To obtain a search warrant, investigators must persuade a judge they have sufficient reason to believe that a crime was committed and that the search would turn up evidence of the crime.

Spokesmen for the F.B.I. and the U.S. attorney’s office declined to comment.

The investigation of Mr. Giuliani grew out of a case against two Soviet-born men who aided his mission in Ukraine to unearth damaging information about Mr. Biden and his son Hunter, who was on the board of an energy company there. Prosecutors charged the men, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, with unrelated crimes in 2019 and a trial is scheduled for October.

While investigating Mr. Giuliani, prosecutors have examined, among other things, his potential business dealings in Ukraine and his role in pushing the Trump administration to oust the American ambassador to the country, a subject of testimony at Mr. Trump’s first impeachment trial.

As he was pressuring Ukrainian officials to investigate the Bidens, Mr. Giuliani became fixated on removing the ambassador, Marie L. Yovanovitch, whom he saw as an obstacle to those efforts. At the urging of Mr. Giuliani and other Republicans, Mr. Trump ultimately ousted Ms. Yovanovitch.

As part of the investigation into Mr. Giuliani, the prosecutors have explored whether he was working not only for Mr. Trump, but also for Ukrainian officials or businesses who wanted the ambassador to be dismissed for their own reasons, according to people briefed on the matter.

Under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA, it is a federal crime to try to influence or lobby the United States government at the request or direction of a foreign official without disclosing it to the Justice Department.

The prosecutors have scrutinized Mr. Giuliani’s dealings with Yuriy Lutsenko, one of the officials who helped Mr. Giuliani and his associates in their dirt-digging mission while also urging them to work to get the ambassador removed.

Among other things, the prosecutors have examined discussions Mr. Giuliani had about taking on hundreds of thousands of dollars in apparently unrelated consulting business from Mr. Lutsenko, which resulted in a draft retainer agreement that was never executed.

Mr. Giuliani has said he turned down the deal, which would have involved him helping the Ukrainian government recover money it believed had been stolen and stashed overseas.

As the investigation heated up last summer, prosecutors and F.B.I. agents in Manhattan were preparing to seek the search warrant for Mr. Giuliani’s records about his efforts to remove the ambassador, but they first had to notify Justice Department officials in Washington, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

Federal prosecutors must consult Justice Department officials in Washington about search warrants involving lawyers because of concerns that they might obtain confidential communications with clients. The proposed warrant for Mr. Giuliani was particularly sensitive because his most prominent client was Mr. Trump.

Career Justice Department officials in Washington largely supported the search warrant, but senior officials raised concerns that the warrant would be issued too close to the election, the people with knowledge of the matter said.

Under longstanding practice, the Justice Department generally tries to avoid taking aggressive investigative actions within 60 days of an election if those actions could affect the outcome of the vote.

The prosecutors in Manhattan tried again after the election, but political appointees in Mr. Trump’s Justice Department sought once more to block the warrant, the people with knowledge of the matter said. At the time, Mr. Trump was still contesting the election results in several states, a legal effort being led by Mr. Giuliani, those officials noted.

Wednesday morning was not the first time that a personal lawyer for Mr. Trump was the subject of multiple search warrants. In 2018, after the FBI searched the offices of Mr. Trump’s previous personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, who later pleaded guilty to campaign finance and financial crimes, Mr. Trump called that raid a “disgraceful situation” and an “attack on our country in a true sense.”

 

 

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Full NYTimes article below. Do note that Trump's political appointees at Justice had been blocking the investigation even after the election and required the confirmation of Merrick Garland before it could proceed. The article is also a good refresher. 

Federal Investigators Search Rudy Giuliani’s Apartment and Office
Prosecutors obtained the search warrants as part of an investigation into whether Mr. Giuliani broke lobbying laws as President Trump’s personal lawyer.

Federal investigators in Manhattan executed search warrants early Wednesday at the home and office of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former New York City mayor who became President Donald J. Trump’s personal lawyer, stepping up a criminal investigation into Mr. Giuliani’s dealings in Ukraine, three people with knowledge of the investigation said.

The investigators seized Mr. Giuliani’s electronic devices and searched his apartment on Madison Avenue and his office on Park Avenue at about 6 a.m., two of the people said.

The execution of search warrants is an extraordinary action for prosecutors to take against a lawyer, let alone a lawyer for a former president. It was a major development in the long-running investigation into Mr. Giuliani and a remarkable moment in his long arc as a public figure.

As mayor, Mr. Giuliani won national recognition for steering New York through the dark days after the Sept. 11 attacks, and earlier in his career, he led the same U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan that is investigating him now, earning a reputation as a hard-charging prosecutor who took on organized crime and corrupt politicians.

In recent years, however, his image has been tarred by his effort to help Mr. Trump to dig up dirt in Ukraine on President Biden’s son and Mr. Trump’s repeated attempts in court to overturn the results of the 2020 election with baseless claims of widespread fraud.

Mr. Giuliani’s lawyer, Robert J. Costello, called the searches unnecessary because his client had offered to answer prosecutors’s questions, except those regarding Mr. Giuliani’s privileged communications with the former president.

“What they did today was legal thuggery,” Mr. Costello said. “Why would you do this to anyone, let alone someone who was the associate attorney general, United States attorney, the mayor of New York City and the personal lawyer to the 45th president of the United States.”

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The federal authorities have largely focused on whether Mr. Giuliani illegally lobbied the Trump administration in 2019 on behalf of Ukrainian officials and oligarchs, who at the time were helping Mr. Giuliani search for damaging information on Mr. Trump’s political rivals, including Mr. Biden, who was then a leading contender for the Democratic presidential nomination.

The United States attorney’s office in Manhattan and the F.B.I. had  sought for months to secure a search warrant for Mr. Giuliani’s phones.

Under Mr. Trump, senior political appointees in the Justice Department repeatedly sought to block such a warrant, The New York Times reported, slowing the investigation as it was gaining momentum last year. After Merrick B. Garland was confirmed as Mr. Biden’s attorney general, the Justice Department lifted its objection to the search.

While the warrants are not an explicit accusation of wrongdoing against Mr. Giuliani, their execution shows that the investigation has entered an aggressive new phase. To obtain a search warrant, investigators must persuade a judge they have sufficient reason to believe that a crime was committed and that the search would turn up evidence of the crime.

Spokesmen for the F.B.I. and the U.S. attorney’s office declined to comment.

The investigation of Mr. Giuliani grew out of a case against two Soviet-born men who aided his mission in Ukraine to unearth damaging information about Mr. Biden and his son Hunter, who was on the board of an energy company there. Prosecutors charged the men, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, with unrelated crimes in 2019 and a trial is scheduled for October.

While investigating Mr. Giuliani, prosecutors have examined, among other things, his potential business dealings in Ukraine and his role in pushing the Trump administration to oust the American ambassador to the country, a subject of testimony at Mr. Trump’s first impeachment trial.

As he was pressuring Ukrainian officials to investigate the Bidens, Mr. Giuliani became fixated on removing the ambassador, Marie L. Yovanovitch, whom he saw as an obstacle to those efforts. At the urging of Mr. Giuliani and other Republicans, Mr. Trump ultimately ousted Ms. Yovanovitch.

As part of the investigation into Mr. Giuliani, the prosecutors have explored whether he was working not only for Mr. Trump, but also for Ukrainian officials or businesses who wanted the ambassador to be dismissed for their own reasons, according to people briefed on the matter.

Under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, or FARA, it is a federal crime to try to influence or lobby the United States government at the request or direction of a foreign official without disclosing it to the Justice Department.

The prosecutors have scrutinized Mr. Giuliani’s dealings with Yuriy Lutsenko, one of the officials who helped Mr. Giuliani and his associates in their dirt-digging mission while also urging them to work to get the ambassador removed.

Among other things, the prosecutors have examined discussions Mr. Giuliani had about taking on hundreds of thousands of dollars in apparently unrelated consulting business from Mr. Lutsenko, which resulted in a draft retainer agreement that was never executed.

Mr. Giuliani has said he turned down the deal, which would have involved him helping the Ukrainian government recover money it believed had been stolen and stashed overseas.

As the investigation heated up last summer, prosecutors and F.B.I. agents in Manhattan were preparing to seek the search warrant for Mr. Giuliani’s records about his efforts to remove the ambassador, but they first had to notify Justice Department officials in Washington, according to people with knowledge of the matter.

Federal prosecutors must consult Justice Department officials in Washington about search warrants involving lawyers because of concerns that they might obtain confidential communications with clients. The proposed warrant for Mr. Giuliani was particularly sensitive because his most prominent client was Mr. Trump.

Career Justice Department officials in Washington largely supported the search warrant, but senior officials raised concerns that the warrant would be issued too close to the election, the people with knowledge of the matter said.

Under longstanding practice, the Justice Department generally tries to avoid taking aggressive investigative actions within 60 days of an election if those actions could affect the outcome of the vote.

The prosecutors in Manhattan tried again after the election, but political appointees in Mr. Trump’s Justice Department sought once more to block the warrant, the people with knowledge of the matter said. At the time, Mr. Trump was still contesting the election results in several states, a legal effort being led by Mr. Giuliani, those officials noted.

Wednesday morning was not the first time that a personal lawyer for Mr. Trump was the subject of multiple search warrants. In 2018, after the FBI searched the offices of Mr. Trump’s previous personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, who later pleaded guilty to campaign finance and financial crimes, Mr. Trump called that raid a “disgraceful situation” and an “attack on our country in a true sense.”

 

 

 

 

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Under Mr. Trump, senior political appointees in the Justice Department repeatedly sought to block such a warrant, The New York Times reported, slowing the investigation as it was gaining momentum last year. After Merrick B. Garland was confirmed as Mr. Biden’s attorney general, the Justice Department lifted its objection to the search

 

This is probably a stupid question.  But if Rudy has known for a long time that the Feds have been trying to get this warrant wouldn't he have disposed of whatever they were looking for by now?

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This is probably a stupid question.  But if Rudy has known for a long time that the Feds have been trying to get this warrant wouldn't he have disposed of whatever they were looking for by now?

You're giving Rudy way, way too much credit.

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This is probably a stupid question.  But if Rudy has known for a long time that the Feds have been trying to get this warrant wouldn't he have disposed of whatever they were looking for by now?

I'm not sure Rudy has the intellectual capability to delete an email. This is a guy that routinely butt dials reporters.  

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This is probably a stupid question.  But if Rudy has known for a long time that the Feds have been trying to get this warrant wouldn't he have disposed of whatever they were looking for by now?

Ordinarily, I'd say yes, that is a stupid question, because who could possibly be that dumb? But you gotta remember who we're talking about...

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This is probably a stupid question.  But if Rudy has known for a long time that the Feds have been trying to get this warrant wouldn't he have disposed of whatever they were looking for by now?

Bro, the NSA already has everything they need, fbi just needs to “find” it legitimately for it to hold up in court.  
maybe... probably...

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This is probably a stupid question.  But if Rudy has known for a long time that the Feds have been trying to get this warrant wouldn't he have disposed of whatever they were looking for by now?

If he destroys something, and the prosecutors find out, I think that's another crime. I'm not a lawyer. 

If he was informed to preserve stuff, then he'd surely be violating the law to destroy it. 

On another issue, let's not forget that Rick Perry was up to his nuts in this scandal as well. You know that fuckwad didn't have the savvy to cover his tracks in an international conspiracy to set up his good ol' boy network.

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