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People supporting Ashley Babbitt.... They know what they're doing, right? Like it's all a wink wink bit? Perhaps I'm giving too much credit here, but to think otherwise is too crazy to be let out of the house without supervision. 

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11 minutes ago, Red Five said:

People supporting Ashley Babbitt.... They know what they're doing, right? Like it's all a wink wink bit? Perhaps I'm giving too much credit here, but to think otherwise is too crazy to be let out of the house without supervision. 

anything to perpetuate the big lie. they're really sticking with the losing bit.

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17 minutes ago, Red Five said:

People supporting Ashley Babbitt.... They know what they're doing, right? Like it's all a wink wink bit? Perhaps I'm giving too much credit here, but to think otherwise is too crazy to be let out of the house without supervision. 

They should stop supporting her, and show the ultimate devotion by imitating her.

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12 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

I can't recall a single public figure that's fallen as far and as hard as this motherfucker.   Maybe OJ?  

What was Rudy's post 9-11 approval rating?   90%? 

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So, Rudy apparently has requested that his Chapter 11 bankruptcy be converted to a Chapter 7.

That's a liquidation and would appear to denude him of assets.  The Georgia plaintiffs want it dismissed, for substantial abuse.

Good times.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

So, Rudy apparently has requested that his Chapter 11 bankruptcy be converted to a Chapter 7.

That's a liquidation and would appear to denude him of assets.  The Georgia plaintiffs want it dismissed, for substantial abuse.

Good times.

Rudy "denuded"

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3 hours ago, Brandywine said:

I hope it was worth it Rudy! While you'll be homeless, orange man will be playing golf. 

Think he’ll have enough money left to buy hair colorIng that’s not temperature stable?

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It’s just not fair!!!!

Rudy’s says it’s not fair that he was disbarred instead of Jack Smith. He says after the Supreme Court ruled that Trump has some immunity, Smith should’ve been disbarred for prosecutorial misconduct.

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4 hours ago, TeeDubya said:

It’s just not fair!!!!

Rudy’s says it’s not fair that he was disbarred instead of Jack Smith. He says after the Supreme Court ruled that Trump has some immunity, Smith should’ve been disbarred for prosecutorial misconduct.

Hasn’t learned one damn thing. He was respected at one time and now he’s a joke and going down a toilet. What is it about Trump that makes people destroy their lives for him?

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Hasn’t learned one damn thing. He was respected at one time and now he’s a joke and going down a toilet. What is it about Trump that makes people destroy their lives for him?

One of the many things about this era I will never understand. I’m talking a level of “I could undertake a four year college program majoring in How Trump Broke People, and STILL not have a clue.” I’ll never get it.
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'Rudy Giuliani’s Daughter: Trump Took My Dad From Me. Please Don’t Let Him Take Our Country Too'

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“Nothing I have experienced prepared me for the very public and relentless implosion of my father’s life,” writes Caroline Giuliani, announcing her support for Kamala Harris.

Link to full column: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/caroline-giuliani-trump-kamala-harris

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I am constantly asking myself how America is back here, even considering the possibility of electing Donald Trump again, after all of the damage he has caused, both in office and since. While Kamala Harris has gained extraordinary momentum by infusing this election with vitality and hope, I worry that too many Americans remain disconnected from the visceral, psychologically draining memory of Trump’s deeply destabilizing presidency. If enough people truly remembered what that chaos felt like, another Trump term wouldn’t even be on the table. But for those open to seeing the bare and unvarnished truth, there are unmistakable reminders of Trump’s destructive trail all around us, and it has broken my heart to watch my dad become one of them.

As Rudy Giuliani’s daughter, I’m unfortunately well-suited to remind Americans of just how calamitous being associated with Trump can be, even for those who are convinced he’s on their side. Watching my dad’s life crumble since he joined forces with Trump has been extraordinarily painful, both on a personal level and because his demise feels linked to a dark force that threatens to once again consume America. Not to disregard individual accountability in the slightest, but it would be naive for us to ignore the fact that many of those closest to Trump have descended into catastrophic downward spirals. If we let Trump back into the driver’s seat this fall, our country will be no exception.

My dad and I have a cartoonishly complicated relationship. But he is still my father, and despite his faults, I love him. I’ve seen him experience surreal heights, and, now, unfathomable lows. The last thing I want to do is hurt him, especially when he’s already down. Plus we never know how much time we have left with our parents. The totality of that makes this the most difficult piece I’ve ever written. Yet this moment and this election are so much bigger than any of us.

From reproductive rights and the economy, to foreign and environmental policy, we need experienced, sane, and fundamentally decent leaders who will fight for us instead of against us—who will safeguard our democracy rather than dismantle it. And as a recently engaged-to-be-married, 35-year-old who hopes to feel more joyous than fearful about the potential of becoming a parent myself, I need to advocate for a future worth bringing children into, which is why I am voicing my adamant support for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz.

I’ll never forget the night my dad told me he was considering becoming Trump’s lawyer. I was with him at the Grand Havana Room, a cigar bar at the top of 666 Fifth Avenue, an address too fitting given the unholy alliance my father was about to enter into.

Surrounded by thick smoke and powerful men, I ugly-cried for a few minutes, then spent the next three hours making my vehement case to my father that he not go down this morally perilous path.

It was extremely rare for my dad to tell me he was going to do anything before actually doing it, so this moment of connection with him also felt like a cosmic opportunity to do my part to limit the spread of Trump’s sinister shadow. I held nothing back. I voiced all of my concerns about Trump’s open racism, rampant misogyny, and total lack of empathy. I even told my dad that I already felt ashamed of my last name whenever I saw headlines connecting him with Trump, and that this escalation would only deepen that feeling. For the rest of that night, I held onto hope that a daughter’s emotional entreaty might actually sway a father.

That fantasy was dispelled the next morning when a news story popped onto my feed: Rudy Giuliani was going to work for Donald Trump. The pit I felt in my stomach then was a warning, but I had no idea how much destruction my father would come to face due to his one-sided fealty to a con-man. Growing up in Gracie Mansion, I always knew I had a privileged life. But a particular set of challenges came along with being Rudy Giuliani’s daughter, and by that point in my life, I had mostly learned how to navigate them.

But nothing I have experienced prepared me for the very public and relentless implosion of my father’s life.

As someone who overcame a deeply ingrained eating disorder and has worked through various other manifestations of anxiety and depression, I’m no stranger to processing complicated feelings. But this new albatross left me floored by a potent mix of fear, anger, confusion, and sadness that often had me crying over my dad, and for him, at the same time. I always saw flaws in my dad that people blinded by his celebrity couldn’t see, but on some level, the absurd scale of his success and notoriety also made it hard to believe that anything could actually take him down. I spent a lot of my life wishing my father had less power. But I never wanted it to happen like this. And selfishly, the deeper my dad gets stuck in the quicksand of his problems, the more fleeting our opportunities to connect as father and daughter become. After months of feeling the type of sorrow that comes from the death of a loved one, it dawned on me that I’ve been grieving the loss of my dad to Trump. I cannot bear to lose our country to him too.

I know that some people may question whether I truly care about my father, since another Trump presidency could theoretically mitigate some of the problems he’s facing. It distresses me to think that my dad might even wonder this. But if you zoom out, Trump being the president was the worst thing that ever happened to my dad, to my family, and to our nation’s modern history. The consequences will only be more severe—and irreversible— a second time around. Thanks to the extremist Supreme Court he stacked, Trump would take office with full immunity: no checks on his power whatsoever. If the president isn’t going to be subject to the law like every other citizen, which remains incomprehensible to me, then our president had better have a moral compass. A 34-time convicted felon who’s been found liable for sexual abuse, tries to steal elections, and demeans people based on their race, sexuality, disability status, and gender falls remarkably short of the bar we must set for ourselves as a country. Fortunately, we have another choice in this election: a life-long public servant who has spent her career upholding justice and fighting for those who cannot fight for themselves.

The Supreme Court’s immunity ruling was a huge blow to the structure of our democracy, and Trump has made it clear that he intends to continue ravaging our noble experiment until there is nothing left of it. The aspiring autocrat has told his supporters that this is the last time they’ll ever have to vote because “it’ll be fixed after that.” There’s no good way to spin that. Whether he means that elections will be fixed, elections will be eradicated, or that the country will be permanently “fixed” due to the demolition of institutions and policies that ensure checks and balances on power, it’s clear that he’s a narcissist in pursuit of authoritarian rule. A democracy by definition cannot be fixed or calcified. It must have the flexibility to change according to the wishes of its people, not the despotic dreams of one. Listening to those wishes, even when it seemed inconceivably late for President Joe Biden to pull out, is exactly what led to Kamala Harris being on the top of the ticket. Her rapid rise is a literal manifestation of citizens’ voices being heard, which is exactly the type of consideration and respect all Americans will get if she is elected.

Beyond the existential importance of this election, I am also voting for Harris because she is the only candidate who cares about my rights as a woman. The reversal of Roe v Wade was a shocking and horrifying “accomplishment” of Trump’s that has already resulted in the unforgivable and unnecessary deaths of innocent women like Amber Nicole Thurman. Seeing Republican state officials enact draconian abortion bans and threaten fertility care is incredibly personal for me. As a woman in my 30s struggling with long-covid-related health issues, there’s a possibility that my soon-to-be husband and I will need to rely on surrogacy or fertility treatments if we want to have children of our own. Having the means to even consider surrogacy is a tremendous privilege that I do not take lightly, but it also stirs up many complex and challenging emotions. So I’ve spent the last couple of years talking to countless women about their fertility journeys. Witnessing their strength has been inspiring, and it has also made it clear that fertility struggles necessitate tremendous courage and grace. So the fact the Roe reversal has given states the leeway to make the IVF process even more uncertain is a disgrace. And hearing Trump flip-flop on the issues of abortion and IVF only makes me trust him less – if that’s even possible – because his lies are so clearly politically motivated. He’s already caused irreparable damage, and I don’t believe for a second that he won’t cause more.

Trump has tried to distance himself from Project 2025, which would “explicitly reject the notion that abortion is health care” and require the Department of Health and Human Services Department to preclude doctors and nurses from being trained to perform abortions, but his insincere denial so clearly stems from his growing political insecurity. Project 2025’s contributors include several high-ranking officials from Trump’s first administration, and one of Project 2025’s authors, Russell Vought, was secretly recorded acknowledging that Trump is in fact “very supportive” of what they do. I believe it, because everything in Project 2025, from eradicating the Department of Education and FEMA, to decimating unions and reinstating schedule F so that the administration can hire and fire government employees for political reasons, is woefully in line with the malfeasance and backsliding that Trump has already proven he stands for. It is a dictator’s playbook—one he didn’t have before. Trump will be much more effective a second time around, and I don’t see how our world can survive it.

We live at a crossroads in history, where the future of not only our democracy but our planet is at stake. Trump’s first-term position on the Climate Crisis was to call it a hoax while stripping away climate regulations and giving the fossil fuel industry everything they wanted and more. His second-term agenda, which we can foresee through his grotesque Project 2025 playbook, will only accelerate the damage he’s already done. My dream of becoming a mom, coupled with the difficult health journey I’ve been on over the last few years, has me constantly grappling with our increasingly toxic and dangerous environment. But I do feel hope. Because Kamala Harris understands the grave danger of climate change. As only the second presidential candidate in history to be endorsed by Scientific American, she’ll be a champion for our children’s futures by reinstating the United States as a member of the Paris Agreement and continuing to fight for renewable energy policy. We’ve seen remarkable progress on this issue under the Biden/Harris Inflation Reduction Act. Trump would roll it all back. Kamala Harris is our only chance for a better future.

Even though the last few years have been some of the most difficult of my life on a personal level, I’m grateful to live in a country that came together once before to fire a burgeoning tyrant. Watching Harris reignite the torch that Biden selflessly passed to her has filled me with optimism and pride. She has the experience, intelligence, and fortitude to lead us to a brighter future, and seeing her hold Trump accountable in the debate only further confirms her ability to defend us from our most dangerous enemies, domestic and foreign. But even with all the incredible momentum the Harris/Walz ticket has generated, we still have to work hard to ensure a victory for our future. We live in a two-party system, and no candidate will appeal to every voter on every issue.

If for whatever reason you choose to sit this election out or lodge a protest-vote for a third-party candidate, make no mistake: you are voting for Donald Trump.

Take it from me, Trump destroys everything he touches. I saw it happen to my family. Don’t let it happen to yours, or to our country. Kamala Harris will guide us into a brighter future, but only if we unite behind her. On November 5th, I’ll be voting for that future. For justice, stability, and democracy. And I sincerely hope you’ll cast your ballot for Kamala Harris, too.

 

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1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

It’s a good thing rudy was trump’s appointed cybersecurity advisor. His technical prowess is legendary. 

The G-20.In domain thing on twitter really showcased his expertise.

I bet the text mentioned in the article was something about like this.

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26 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

what a fucking dipshit.  I really hate myself because there was a time that I held Rudy in high esteem.  

Yeah, I'm not sure I'd say high regard, I was always a bit skeptical and thought him a self-promoter, but I never suspected he'd get this low.

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Oh that's a damned shame...

Rudy Giuliani's son says dad gifted him 4 World Series rings sought by Georgia election workers

Rudy Giuliani's son is trying to stop two Georgia election workers who won a $148 million defamation judgment against his father from taking the elder Giuliani's New York Yankees World Series rings, saying in new court filings that he is actually the rightful owner because they were gifted to him years ago.

Andrew Giuliani, who was unsuccessful in a 2022 Republican bid for New York governor, said in papers filed Tuesday in federal court in Manhattan that his father gave him four World Series rings as a gift in 2018. He added that he and his father agreed that the elder Giuliani would temporarily keep one of the rings to wear around.

Rudy Giuliani received the rings — one for each of the Yankees' championships in 1996, 1998, 1999 and 2000 — during his terms as mayor of New York City in those years. In filings in a failed bankruptcy attempt this year, Rudy Giuliani listed three World Series rings as personal property as part of an estimated $30,000 jewelry collection that also includes expensive watches.

The Georgia election workers, Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, won the $148 million defamation judgment over Rudy Giuliani's false ballot fraud claims against them related to the 2020 presidential election. Freeman and Moss said Giuliani pushed Donald Trump’s lies about the election being stolen, which led to death threats that made them fear for their lives.

In an effort to collect on the judgment, Freeman and Moss are now asking a federal judge in New York to award them Rudy Giuliani's Manhattan apartment, World Series rings and other property. Andrew Giuliani's new court filings asked that he be allowed to intervene in that case to make his claim on the rings, and a judge approved the request Wednesday.

Rudy Giuliani, meanwhile, is appealing the $148 million award in a federal appeals court, citing free speech rights and arguing that Freeman and Moss didn't prove that he made the ballot fraud claims with “actual malice” — a requirement to win defamation cases. He is asking the New York judge to delay awarding his property to Freeman and Moss until after the appeal is decided.

Lawyers for Rudy Giuliani and Freeman and Moss declined to comment Wednesday on Andrew Giuliani's claims on the World Series rings. A lawyer for Andrew Giuliani did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

In his filings, Andrew Giuliani says his father gave him the rings in May 2018 after a 74th birthday celebration for the elder Giuliani in New York.

“He said to me, in substance and in part, ‘I told you when I got these that they would be yours someday, and I want to give them to you now,’” the filings said. “As a child and young adult, I had spent many nights with my father watching Yankees games and bonding over our love for the team, and I was excited about receiving the rings.”

Andrew Giuliani also submitted to the court a photo of him and his wife holding cases containing two of the rings while posing with his father on the night he said he received them as gifts. He says the rings shouldn't be given to Freeman and Moss because they are his property.

Rudy Giuliani's assets — which also include a Palm Beach, Florida, condo, autographed Reggie Jackson and Yankee Stadium pictures, and a signed Joe DiMaggio shirt — are estimated to be worth somewhere north of $10 million if sold off to pay Freeman and Moss.

Lawyers for Freeman and Moss alleged in court filings seeking possession of the property that Rudy Giuliani has tried to thwart their attempts to collect on the judgment, including through legal actions including the bankruptcy case that was dismissed by a judge.

“Mr. Giuliani has spent years evading accountability for his actions,” they said. “Now that Mr. Giuliani’s bankruptcy case has been dismissed, Plaintiffs are finally in a position to receive a measure of compensation by enforcing their judgment.”

A federal judge in Manhattan has scheduled an Oct. 17 hearing on the motion by Freeman and Moss seeking possession of Rudy Giuliani's assets.

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57 minutes ago, Satchel said:

 

Funny thing, I'm pretty sure Smith's new narrative says Trump openly said he'd let Rudy run the election suits and wouldn't pay him if he didn't win.  Yep, page 11.

If he said that to Rudy, that may well terminate the obligation.

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On 9/2/2024 at 12:44 PM, TeeDubya said:

It’s just not fair!!!!

Rudy’s says it’s not fair that he was disbarred instead of Jack Smith. He says after the Supreme Court ruled that Trump has some immunity, Smith should’ve been disbarred for prosecutorial misconduct.

Hahahaha he's fucking miserable and I love it. 

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On 10/10/2024 at 10:55 AM, locodos said:

Oh that's a damned shame...

Rudy Giuliani's son says dad gifted him 4 World Series rings sought by Georgia election workers

Rudy Giuliani's son is trying to stop two Georgia election workers who won a $148 million defamation judgment against his father from taking the elder Giuliani's New York Yankees World Series rings, saying in new court filings that he is actually the rightful owner because they were gifted to him years ago.

Andrew Giuliani, who was unsuccessful in a 2022 Republican bid for New York governor, said in papers filed Tuesday in federal court in Manhattan that his father gave him four World Series rings as a gift in 2018. He added that he and his father agreed that the elder Giuliani would temporarily keep one of the rings to wear around.

Rudy Giuliani received the rings — one for each of the Yankees' championships in 1996, 1998, 1999 and 2000 — during his terms as mayor of New York City in those years. In filings in a failed bankruptcy attempt this year, Rudy Giuliani listed three World Series rings as personal property as part of an estimated $30,000 jewelry collection that also includes expensive watches.

The Georgia election workers, Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, won the $148 million defamation judgment over Rudy Giuliani's false ballot fraud claims against them related to the 2020 presidential election. Freeman and Moss said Giuliani pushed Donald Trump’s lies about the election being stolen, which led to death threats that made them fear for their lives.

In an effort to collect on the judgment, Freeman and Moss are now asking a federal judge in New York to award them Rudy Giuliani's Manhattan apartment, World Series rings and other property. Andrew Giuliani's new court filings asked that he be allowed to intervene in that case to make his claim on the rings, and a judge approved the request Wednesday.

Rudy Giuliani, meanwhile, is appealing the $148 million award in a federal appeals court, citing free speech rights and arguing that Freeman and Moss didn't prove that he made the ballot fraud claims with “actual malice” — a requirement to win defamation cases. He is asking the New York judge to delay awarding his property to Freeman and Moss until after the appeal is decided.

Lawyers for Rudy Giuliani and Freeman and Moss declined to comment Wednesday on Andrew Giuliani's claims on the World Series rings. A lawyer for Andrew Giuliani did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

In his filings, Andrew Giuliani says his father gave him the rings in May 2018 after a 74th birthday celebration for the elder Giuliani in New York.

“He said to me, in substance and in part, ‘I told you when I got these that they would be yours someday, and I want to give them to you now,’” the filings said. “As a child and young adult, I had spent many nights with my father watching Yankees games and bonding over our love for the team, and I was excited about receiving the rings.”

Andrew Giuliani also submitted to the court a photo of him and his wife holding cases containing two of the rings while posing with his father on the night he said he received them as gifts. He says the rings shouldn't be given to Freeman and Moss because they are his property.

Rudy Giuliani's assets — which also include a Palm Beach, Florida, condo, autographed Reggie Jackson and Yankee Stadium pictures, and a signed Joe DiMaggio shirt — are estimated to be worth somewhere north of $10 million if sold off to pay Freeman and Moss.

Lawyers for Freeman and Moss alleged in court filings seeking possession of the property that Rudy Giuliani has tried to thwart their attempts to collect on the judgment, including through legal actions including the bankruptcy case that was dismissed by a judge.

“Mr. Giuliani has spent years evading accountability for his actions,” they said. “Now that Mr. Giuliani’s bankruptcy case has been dismissed, Plaintiffs are finally in a position to receive a measure of compensation by enforcing their judgment.”

A federal judge in Manhattan has scheduled an Oct. 17 hearing on the motion by Freeman and Moss seeking possession of Rudy Giuliani's assets.

So Andrew…. I’m sure you would’ve been so excited in 2018 to receive the multimillion dollar rings. I can’t imagine the number of texts you sent out telling your friends and family how happy you were about that. And you must’ve immediately obtained insurance on them since they were yours.

I’m sure it is just a coincidence that your father swore under oath it is bankruptcy schedules that the rings were his.   I think you should take the stand and confirm that your father committed perjury in his bankruptcy filing.

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How do these guys pay their lawyers for all these lawsuits? The amount of money just burned must be incredible.

 

I some how managed to live 56 years on this earth without once giving a lawyer money.

(no offense to the Shaggy elite on here)

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6 minutes ago, yoladu said:

How do these guys pay their lawyers for all these lawsuits? The amount of money just burned must be incredible.

 

I some how managed to live 56 years on this earth without once giving a lawyer money.

(no offense to the Shaggy elite on here)

Well, for one thing, there's always some dumbass who thinks he's gonna get paid when his predecessors didn't.  It's even got a name in "second lawyer syndrome" or third, fourth, or fifth.

Also, large cash retainers can make it work, for a while.

It is also possible that some of these guys have an "alternative fee arrangement" where they get a piece of the value of the property "saved."

But you're right, this collection and bankruptcy shit costs everyone a shit ton, in time if not money (a lot of Freeman's lawyers are pro bono).

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1 hour ago, yoladu said:

How do these guys pay their lawyers for all these lawsuits? The amount of money just burned must be incredible.

 

I some how managed to live 56 years on this earth without once giving a lawyer money.

(no offense to the Shaggy elite on here)

If you've ever bought a house or property, you've given a lawyer money.  

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10 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

So Andrew…. I’m sure you would’ve been so excited in 2018 to receive the multimillion dollar rings. I can’t imagine the number of texts you sent out telling your friends and family how happy you were about that. And you must’ve immediately obtained insurance on them since they were yours.

I’m sure it is just a coincidence that your father swore under oath it is bankruptcy schedules that the rings were his.   I think you should take the stand and confirm that your father committed perjury in his bankruptcy filing.

Yeah, that was my first takeaway on that.  "So, seriously....Rudy's kid just filed something that functionally said 'my dad lied in his bankruptcy filing?'  Bold move."

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On 10/11/2024 at 10:14 AM, yoladu said:

How do these guys pay their lawyers for all these lawsuits? The amount of money just burned must be incredible.

 

I some how managed to live 56 years on this earth without once giving a lawyer money.

(no offense to the Shaggy elite on here)

you 100% have given money to a lawyer, whether directly or not. don't kid yourself. also, that's really not the flex you think it might be.

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