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1 hour ago, Willfully Horn said:

You saw Mondale’s son reading a eulogy penned by his late father.

Gotcha. He's the spitting image of his father, which is why I thought it was him. Then I was thinking, "that mother fucker is old but he looks gooooood!"

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8 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

This made me laugh. W. is such a frat boy.

 

According to protocol, Obama, or more precisely Michelle is supposed to sit next to Trump. GW and Laura are between the Clintons and Obamas. Trump and Melania will move up to the other side of the Bidens and presumably stay there after '28. Jill just the pleasure of sitting next to Trump in the future but even his years are numbered.

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3 hours ago, mdmost said:

Did we see the end of ex-Presidents committing to lives of service after they leave the office or was Carter just built differently. I feel like I answered my own question. 

The Clinton Foundation is an A-rated charity that does a lot of good work all over the world. I’m not sure what all Obama’s been involved in. Dubya paints and gives paid speeches to right-wing organizations. 

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9 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

The Clinton Foundation is an A-rated charity that does a lot of good work all over the world. I’m not sure what all Obama’s been involved in. Dubya paints and gives paid speeches to right-wing organizations. 

Sure, foundations are great. I'm talking more the hands on life of service Jimmy Carter led post-presidency. I just don't hear much about what Clinton does other than giving speeches. I guess health plays a factor and Carter seems to have been the healthiest of them all. 

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welp that was botched

c-span is the only network that had it

they were so far behind schedule and the birds were on station burning gas

so they did the flyover while he was still in the hearse

3 diamonds followed by the stagger 4 formation, #2 was the missing man

THEN the funeral party disembarks from the buses

they didn't even get to see it

what a clusterfuck

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4 hours ago, David Dennison said:

This made me laugh. W. is such a frat boy.

 

Trump is really showing his age. White hair and so much makeup that it's making his face look weathered. Melania looks like she'd rather be anywhere on the planet than there. No expression, plus she's looking rough too, or, like she doesn't care anymore. We're going to be reliving 4 years ago all over again, everyday, every single day!

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33 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

Melania looks like she'd rather be anywhere on the planet than there. No expression, plus she's looking rough too, or, like she doesn't care anymore. 

Well, she was 12 when Carter left office, and she wasn't even a lesbian porn model at that time, much less a mail-order bride.  I'm pretty sure she has no reason to care.  Donald doesn't.

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1 hour ago, Brandywine said:

Trump is really showing his age. White hair and so much makeup that it's making his face look weathered. Melania looks like she'd rather be anywhere on the planet than there. No expression, plus she's looking rough too, or, like she doesn't care anymore. We're going to be reliving 4 years ago all over again, everyday, every single day!

you think that cunt EVER cared?

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12 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

According to protocol, Obama, or more precisely Michelle is supposed to sit next to Trump. GW and Laura are between the Clintons and Obamas. Trump and Melania will move up to the other side of the Bidens and presumably stay there after '28. Jill just the pleasure of sitting next to Trump in the future but even his years are numbered.

Hopefully, the next time they meet like this Trump is the one in the box.

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21 minutes ago, Burt said:

Hopefully, the next time they meet like this Trump is the one in the box.

I hope none of them show up for his funeral and that they leave the flags flying normally. The entire part of this country’s voters who didn’t vote for this orange clown should get a month to celebrate his demise. 

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5 hours ago, Burt said:

Hopefully, the next time they meet like this Trump is the one in the box.

 

4 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

I hope none of them show up for his funeral and that they leave the flags flying normally. The entire part of this country’s voters who didn’t vote for this orange clown should get a month to celebrate his demise. 

Bush will be there.

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https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2024/12/30/jimmy-carter-the-father-of-arab-israeli-normalisation

Jimmy Carter: The father of Arab-Israeli normalisation

With the Camp David Accords, the late US president set in motion the gradual abandonment of the Palestinian cause by Arab states.

Imad K Harb is Director of Research and Analysis at Arab Center Washington DC.

Published On 30 Dec 202430 Dec 2024

On December 29, former President Jimmy Carter passed away at the age of 100. As the 39th president of the United States and as a private citizen, Carter was an advocate for peace between nations, democracy and various humanitarian and environmental causes. But in the Middle East, he is going to be remembered as the father of Arab-Israeli normalisation.

Sworn in as president in 1977, Carter was given the opportunity by Egyptian President Anwar Sadat to be the architect of the first normalisation deal between an Arab country and the Zionist state. He helped Sadat and Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin conclude the 1978 Camp David Accords and negotiate the 1979 Egyptian-Israeli peace treaty that formally ended the conflict between the two countries.

As developments in the past four decades have shown, neither the accords nor the treaty led to peace and justice in the Middle East. Israel continues its occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem and has launched a genocidal war on the Gaza Strip; the Palestinians still do not have an independent state with Jerusalem as its capital; and an overwhelming majority of the Arab public refuses to recognise Israel or agree to normalising relations with it.

Looking back at the accords Carter brokered, it is clear that they were the beginning of the slow and gradual, although not publicly acknowledged, abandonment of the Palestinian cause by Arab officialdom, and a US campaign to bury Palestinian national aspirations.
The legacy of Camp David

The Camp David Accords were first and foremost a roadmap towards a full Egyptian-Israeli peace, full recognition of Israel by Egypt, and an end to Egypt’s participation in the Arab economic boycott of Israel. To be sure, the accords were a mere framework for negotiations between the two countries that would lead a few months later to the signing of a peace treaty.

But they also included provisions related to the Palestinian people, whose wording was indicative of the ultimate purpose of the accords. The document spoke of a plan to provide “autonomy” to the “inhabitants” of the occupied territory, as if the Palestinians were aliens squatting in the West Bank and Gaza.

At the time, the US had not yet recognised the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) as the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people. Thus, the accords called for electing a “self-governing authority” for the occupied territory. But that autonomy and the elected authority were to be supervised by Israel, Egypt, and Jordan, in obvious violation of the Palestinians’ right to constitute an independent, national government.

Throughout the 1980s, and because of US-supported Israeli objections, the Palestinians were absent and prevented from playing a role in devising peace plans for the Arab-Israeli and Palestine-Israel conflict. But the eruption of the first Intifada in December of 1987 and Jordan’s 1988 relinquishing of its claim to the West Bank made it clear that the Palestinians could no longer be ignored in peace negotiations.

Still, in 1991, the Palestinians participating in the Madrid Conference were only present as part of a Jordanian delegation, once again denying their nationhood.

Like other iterations of the US-led and sponsored “peace process”, the Madrid path led to a stalemate, as Israel continued to ignore the Palestinians’ national rights and reject any talk of ending its occupation. Following the Israeli elections in 1992 that brought the Labor Party to power, the US shepherded the Oslo Accords between the PLO and Israel that created the Palestinian National Authority (PA). As a constituted government for the Palestinians, the PA was required to recognise Israel’s right to exist before securing official Israeli acknowledgement of Palestinian grievances and national aspirations.

Jordan, for its part, had to sign a peace treaty with Israel, becoming the second Arab state after Egypt to recognise the Zionist state. All Amman was able to preserve from its relationship with Palestine was its custodianship of religious sites in Jerusalem, a status that is constantly challenged by the Israeli authorities today.
The Abraham Accords

Throughout the so-called “peace process” that the Camp David Accords set in motion, the US was keen to encourage Arab states to consider their interests separately from those of the Palestinians. This encouragement became a full-fledged campaign during the presidency of Donald Trump who, along with his administration lieutenants, evinced more than the usual American bias in favour of the Zionist state.

In 2020, Trump presided over the signing of the so-called Abraham Accords that normalised relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Morocco. Sudan joined the following year.

While all Arab states involved insisted that the normalisation of relations with Israel would help improve the lives of Palestinians and should not be seen as abandoning them, the truth was they all got something in return for recognising Israel with no regard for Palestinian interests.

The UAE’s normalisation with Israel appears to be the fastest and deepest. The two countries have quickly developed and expanded military and economic relations. Bahrain aimed to use its relations with Israel as a hedge against an aggressive Iran. Morocco received a much-desired US recognition of its sovereignty over the Western Sahara. And Sudan was able to get itself removed from the US list of state sponsors of terrorism.

To be sure, the Abraham Accords were no more than transactions that advanced the signers’ interests at the expense of the Palestinian cause, thus allowing Israel to deepen its apartheid policies and entrench its occupation of Palestinian land.

And it is not difficult to see a strong desire in the upcoming Trump administration for an expanded map of Arab normalisation with Israel, one that includes Saudi Arabia, for example. As was the case with earlier normalisation deals, the Palestinians will be the last to count on any dividends from more Arab openness on Israel.
A welcome change of heart

After the end of his presidential term, Carter continued to pursue efforts for peace between Palestinians and Israelis. But the more he observed the situation on the ground, the more he became convinced that the US policy of steadfast support for Israel was wrong and counterproductive.

Thus in 2007, he published a book titled Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid in which he declared that Israeli policies in the occupied Palestinian territories amounted to the crime of apartheid. This was a welcome change of heart from a long-held conviction among many US politicians and opinion-makers. Carter remains the only prominent US politician brave enough to call Israeli policies and practices by their proper name.

As Americans mourn his death and remember his legacy, it is important to reflect on the disastrous US policies in Palestine. Over the past four decades, Israel’s occupation has grown more and more violent thanks in large part to unconditional US support.

It is time for Washington to revise its stance on Israel-Palestine. A reversal in US policy on Palestine – one that recognises Palestinian rights and holds Israel accountable for its crimes – is something Jimmy Carter likely would have wanted to see in his lifetime.

 

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22 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

So, are we going to discuss Melanie’s shirt that she wore to the state funeral?

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The image depicts a naked couple in an embrace, the male with his hand on the woman’s breast. Maybe that image is a lithograph made from a photo of her and Barron.

I'm surprised she had the temerity to show up at all. no surprise she makes a mockery of it. cunt. sorry, first cunt.

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