Tom Herman is a 2nd place coach

[A’Dam Psycho 1469]

Blaming the coaches is so easy and lazy.

[Goredho 17356]

Petition to change thread title to “I am a dumbass and would like to share it”

[Funk Doctor Spock 11946]

Just now, GTX Horn said:

I think if they somehow miss the playoffs, he’s gone. If they don’t win a playoff game he may be gone. Other potential openings like the Falcons or Texans could be tempting too if Riley really does have any NFL aspirations. Both of those teams have legit offensive weapons and aren’t complete rebuilds like Washington.

I just don't get the idea that he has NFL aspirations, much like his predecessor. He knows where he would succeed. Does college pay more than the NFL? If not, that could be a factor. Texans would be an interesting place, especially with Watson as qb. 

 

I just don't believe Jerruh will fire Garrett. If he hasn't by now, I don't think it's gonna happen any time soon. Jmo

[GreenspointTexas 9568]

Nfl is much easier to coach but pays less, right?

[Funk Doctor Spock 11946]

1 minute ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Nfl is much easier to coach but pays less, right?

I don't know about easier coaching, but I am wondering about the pay. 

[Randolph Duke 4034]

Fuck UT athletics. CDC has built a program of losers. 

[staboner 4959]

4 hours ago, Brothahorn said:

After today, 1-3 vs his only real competition. No amount of ministers, tweets or special guest coaches can overcome his arrogant bullshit. 

Today is a perfect example. Show up listless for the big game. Defense somehow hangs on while the offense shits the field. Get some offensive momentum and the defense lays down. 

Then the players consistently make horrible decisions. Because they get horrible coaching. Fair catching kickoffs/punts inside the 5 is a coaching issue.

Yes he's better than Old Mack and Cholly, but that just gets us 2nd place. Luckily because no other program has our resources and history. 

Neg me, ban me, dog cuss me..but the scoreboard is what it is. 

Fuck 0u.

 

 

 

 

Not sure you why getting negged so much but whatever. I didn't even watch the game (yes no shit assholes) and I could have made this post. I could have made this post over each of the last 3 weeks not named bye. I don't agree with the title of the post, but the meat is there.

Something is very much "off" with Herman and what he gets out of his football team. He has good players and they play as hard as any team I can ever remember seeing. But man do the players and systems on both sides and ST just look weird to me. No consistency. We don't have trap games I think, instead we just have games. The kids fight their ass off to make up for bad decision making, preparation and coaching. Both in game coaching and bad position level prep and coaching. Games like WVU and OSU end up closer than they should and you lose to teams with semi-equal talent and a good game plan. 

I do however think Herman will eventually figure out where in his management he is going wrong. He has created too much positive change to continue on being blind to this.

Sounds like the offense shit the bed. Shouldn't surprise anyone as they have been shitting teh bed all year long, jsut against worse teams and it doesn't end up firmly on the scoreboard. STs has been awful all year. Just terrible. Defense hit and miss. Secondary is poorly coached for sure. 

 

[Randolph Duke 4034]

Tom Herman is Lincoln Riley’s bitch.

And he always will be.

[David Dennison 18675]

1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

Recent coaches that had a better winning % in their 1st four match ups against OUsux games than Tom Herman.

John Mackovic

Mack Brown

Recent coach that had a better winning percentage in their first 3 years.

Charlie Strong

Texas Current defensive ranking:

128

Let those data points sit with you for a minute.

Let's make sure we are clear. 

Mackovic and Brown won more games against OUsux in their first 4 matchups than Herman has.

Strong won as many games against Ousux in his first three years as Herman.

Our Defense is 3 spots from last.

If you don't see these facts as a problem, I can't help you.

 

You should probably get used to it. Tom Herman is going to be here a while.

[6th Street 6357]

Herman's teams look sloppy week in, week out. We can get away with it against Ok State and WV due to the talent gap. But fundamental things like poor tackling, blitz pickup, fielding punts, and fielding kickoffs is lacking. 

[tbone_ 14027]

You should probably get used to it. Tom Herman is going to be here a while.

I think this was 16’s point.

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3 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Recent coaches that had a better winning % in their 1st four match ups against OUsux games than Tom Herman.

John Mackovic

Mack Brown

Recent coach that had a better winning percentage in their first 3 years.

Charlie Strong

Texas Current defensive ranking:

128

Let those data points sit with you for a minute.

Let's make sure we are clear. 

Mackovic and Brown won more games against OUsux in their first 4 matchups than Herman has.

Strong won as many games against Ousux in his first three years as Herman.

Our Defense is 3 spots from last.

If you don't see these facts as a problem, I can't help you.

 

Yeah nice cherry picking.  Mackovic coached against guys like Gibbs and Schnellenberger.  He also lost to Rice.  Charlie, really?  I don't think we have to go over that.  

 

Mack Brown shit himself at the mention of Stoops.  Yeah, did Mack surprise him every now and then?  Sure.  But Bob owned Mack.  

 

That's not to say that Lincoln doesn't own Tom, but he's had the Heisman winner on his side most times.

[tbone_ 14027]

Heisman winners he helped create but I get your point.

[Randolph Duke 4034]

2 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Yeah nice cherry picking.  Mackovic coached against guys like Gibbs and Schnellenberger.  He also lost to Rice.  Charlie, really?  I don't think we have to go over that.  

 

Mack Brown shit himself at the mention of Stoops.  Yeah, did Mack surprise him every now and then?  Sure.  But Bob owned Mack.  

 

That's not to say that Lincoln doesn't own Tom, but he's had the Heisman winner on his side most times.

Let’s not kid ourselves, Tom shits himself at the mention of Riley. 

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7 minutes ago, Randolph Duke said:

Let’s not kid ourselves, Tom shits himself at the mention of Riley. 

He's getting owned, but not 63-14, 65-13,  or 55-17.  Herman needs a come to Jesus moment or to hope Jerry throws a pile of cash at Lincoln.

[Wally Pryor 5245]

As long as Riley is in Norman Herman will the 2nd best coach in the conference, and it's not close.   Herman's full of himself and until he overcomes his shortcomings as an HC he'll never be more than a 9-2  type coach each year.  Tolerable at Texas?  You can decide.   

[closetohumping 17408]

10 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Heisman winners he helped create but I get your point.

Sure, but Murray was a highly touted guy and Baker was like 28 years old.  Hurts I'm not as impressed with.

[Luka Skywalker 152]

17 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Recent coaches that had a better winning % in their 1st four match ups against OUsux games than Tom Herman.

John Mackovic

Mack Brown

Recent coach that had a better winning percentage in their first 3 years.

Charlie Strong

Texas Current defensive ranking:

128

Let those data points sit with you for a minute.

Let's make sure we are clear. 

Mackovic and Brown won more games against OUsux in their first 4 matchups than Herman has.

Strong won as many games against Ousux in his first three years as Herman.

Our Defense is 3 spots from last.

If you don't see these facts as a problem, I can't help you.

 

128? How in the hell can Orlando survive that ranking?

My worst fear is we waste the prime years of the talent we are bringing in with some of these high school level assistant coaches.

[closetohumping 17408]

Just now, Wally Pryor said:

As long as Riley is in Norman Herman will the 2nd best coach in the conference, and it's not close.   Herman's full of himself and until he overcomes his shortcomings as an HC he'll never be more than a 9-2  type coach each year.  Tolerable at Texas?  You can decide.   

Really hope this isn't true.  But, we may have Mack/Jon Cooper again.

[Luka Skywalker 152]

1 minute ago, Wally Pryor said:

As long as Riley is in Norman Herman will the 2nd best coach in the conference, and it's not close.   Herman's full of himself and until he overcomes his shortcomings as an HC he'll never be more than a 9-2  type coach each year.  Tolerable at Texas?  You can decide.   

Ha! I’d be ecstatic if this team got to 9-2. That ain’t happening

[ztejas 43269]

58 minutes ago, staboner said:

I didn't even watch the game

Then shut the fuck up. We don't need 3 paragraphs from some assclown that didn't watch the game. 

[David Dennison 18675]

2 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said:

As long as Riley is in Norman Herman will the 2nd best coach in the conference, and it's not close.   Herman's full of himself and until he overcomes his shortcomings as an HC he'll never be more than a 9-2  type coach each year.  Tolerable at Texas?  You can decide.   

It's absolutely tolerable. Every Texas fan knows that.

[closetohumping 17408]

1 minute ago, Luka Skywalker said:

Ha! I’d be ecstatic if this team got to 9-2. That ain’t happening

I'll take that bet.  I think we run the table in the regular season.  100 bucks?

[Randolph Duke 4034]

3 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Really hope this isn't true.  But, we may have Mack/Jon Cooper again.

We do. It is what it is. 

[staboner 4959]

6 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Then shut the fuck up. We don't need 3 paragraphs from some assclown that didn't watch the game. 

eh wrong Z whinny

Edited October 13, 2019 by staboner
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[staboner 4959]

3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Then shut the fuck up. We don't need 3 paragraphs from some assclown that didn't watch the game. 

and I am spot on. been there all season. it ain't surprising. hopefully Tom isn't as much of a baby as many of you and can make the needed changes and admit what isn't working

[Wally Pryor 5245]

2 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

He's getting owned, but not 63-14, 65-13,  or 55-17.  Herman needs a come to Jesus moment or to hope Jerry throws a pile of cash at Lincoln.

Let's go ahead and also throw in 63-21.  The 4th of 4 Black Saturdays.  The worst losses in the history of Texas football.

We're suffering today so may as well go ahead and throw in Clown Brown's contributions. 

[tbone_ 14027]

Hurts I'm not as impressed with.

Fair but he’s better than anyone we’ve had in the last 30 years not named Vince or Colt imo.

[closetohumping 17408]

1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

Well, Mack started better against Stoops than Herman has against Lincoln.

So.... 

Same record after 4 games.  Mack was 1-3, Tom 1-3. Difference is Mack had the Heisman winner his first year, Lincoln had the Heisman winners his first two years.  That and no 63-14

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1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

You do know the first season Herman goes without dropping a game he's favored would be the first in is head coaching career.

Some of you forget about SMU, and not Buechelle coached SMU.

I think every coach has lost as a favorite.  Even Riley and Stoops. We got a bet? 

[closetohumping 17408]

2 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Fair but he’s better than anyone we’ve had in the last 30 years not named Vince or Colt imo.

Probably. Hard to argue.  I'd probably take Lamb over every one of our receivers and would've last year as well.

[sidis 9765]

2 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Same record after 4 games.  Mack was 1-3, Tom 1-3. Difference is Mack had the Heisman winner his first year, Lincoln had the Heisman winners his first two years.  That and no 63-14

ricky wasn't in the 1999 game.  but he had major go off in the second and third quarters of that game.

[Wally Pryor 5245]

29 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

That's not to say that Lincoln doesn't own Tom, but he's had the Heisman winner on his side most times.

Lulz.  And you think those Heisman winners were just handed to him....

[tbone_ 14027]

Probably. Hard to argue.  I'd probably take Lamb over every one of our receivers and would've last year as well.

Probably? Lol.

[closetohumping 17408]

1 minute ago, Wally Pryor said:

Lulz.  And you think those Heisman winners were just handed to him....

Not at all.  I think Lincoln is one of the three best coaches in CFB.  I wanted Charlie to hire him.

[sidis 9765]

Just now, BurntEyes said:

Wrong.

Mackovic won in 92, 93 and tied in 94 lost 95

Mack won in 98 and 99.

Gets your facts straight.

i think he was talking about mack against stoops, not mack against ou.

[sidis 9765]

1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

Wrong.

Mackovic won in 92, 93 and tied in 94 lost 95

Mack won in 98 and 99.

Gets your facts straight.

also, you're high on that mackovic record.  won 92, lost 93, won 94, tied 95. 

facts and all...

[closetohumping 17408]

1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

So is Herman below top 3?

I'm not sure an argument can be made he's top ten.  but that's just me.  Did you want to bet on running the table though?

[VaLonghorn99 340]

Yo stop hating on the coach and the team in this thread. It wasn’t a long ago when we were trying to be bowl eligible. We lose less than 4 this year then we on track. We got a new D and some injured Horns. Let the drama play out.

[closetohumping 17408]

3 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Wrong.

Mackovic won in 92, 93 and tied in 94 lost 95

Mack won in 98 and 99.

Gets your facts straight.

You may want to check the facts your self.  And yes, opposing coach does matter.  Blake and Gibbs aren't Stoops and Riley.

[Sgt Hulk 13648]

Well watching the Florida their def is doing ok against LSU after gave up like 600 plus yards and 15 tds to burrows 

[closetohumping 17408]

1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

Yeah, which isn't what I stated.

Stoops was to Mack as Lincoln is. Herman.

That I will agree with, which means we better get pretty fucking used to not winning Big 12 championships under Herman.

You said Mack started better against stoops than Tom did against Lincoln.  I said they both started 1-3.  

[MotownHorn 1734]

I just don’t understand why he ever plays conservative. And he plays conservative a lot 

He coaches well enough and they play well enough that if he was always aggressive we'd probably always win

 

[Luka Skywalker 152]

23 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I'll take that bet.  I think we run the table in the regular season.  100 bucks?

So the terms are that I pay you $100.00 if Texas goes 6-0 in the remaining regular season games? But if they lose 1 game then you pay me $100.00? 
 

Yeah I’ll take that bet.

[closetohumping 17408]

1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

Still a better winning percentage than 1-4 which was the point.

Oh, if you want to stretch it to five games Mack was also 1-4 against Stoops. I don't think Herman has coached 5 games vs ou here just yet. Now, you can point to Mack beating Blake in his first year, but that would be like me pointing to Stoops/Riley beating Herman when he was the coach at coogar high.  Different programs.

[closetohumping 17408]

1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

I did and I was mistaken on the year Stoops started at ou.

So.. now tell me the worst ranked D under Mack Brown.

 

IF we're  gonna flip do that, tell me the time Herman allowed 64 to ou or lost to Kansas.

[closetohumping 17408]

2 minutes ago, Luka Skywalker said:

So the terms are that I pay you $100.00 if Texas goes 6-0 in the remaining regular season games? But if they lose 1 game then you pay me $100.00? 
 

Yeah I’ll take that bet.

Want to use a mediator or do you want  to message me?

[sidis 9765]

5 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

but that would be like me pointing to Stoops/Riley beating Herman when he was the coach at coogar high.  Different programs.

ummm...lol.

[Luka Skywalker 152]

6 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Want to use a mediator or do you want  to message me?

We will settle up once they lose or if they win out. Then we can just use Venmo.

[closetohumping 17408]

11 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

dp

I think it wouldn't be fair to hold that one against herman and co. 

Edited October 13, 2019 by closetohumping