2020 Coaching Staff

[closetojumping 65528]

6 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

Ctj,


What would you say the expectations are for Herman next season?

Given that I’d heard they were going to run an actual process on filling out the staff and that has turned out to be flatly incorrect, I’m not sure you should take anything I relay on this right now seriously. 

The dude allegedly needs to bring in top 5 classes in 2020 and 2021, beat Utah, win the conference next year and be in contention for the playoffs. Short of that, he’s hated by everybody except his boss, who continues to run interference for him with the money. So fuck CDC too, I guess. 

Who fucking knows. This guy is doing whatever the fuck he wants irrespective of results and I half expect him to declare himself emperor emeritus of the program, weld himself inside the football offices and never relinquish his position until he’s forcibly removed by the jaw of life from the UT premises. 

[UncleBuck 6455]

Just now, closetojumping said:

Given that I’d heard they were going to run an actual process on filling out the staff and that has turned out to be flatly incorrect, I’m not sure you should take anything I relay on this right now seriously. 

The dude allegedly needs to bring in top 5 classes in 2020 and 2021, beat Utah, win the conference next year and be in contention for the playoffs. Short of that, he’s hated by everybody except his boss, who continues to run interference for him with the money. So fuck CDC too, I guess. 

Who fucking knows. This guy is doing whatever the fuck he wants irrespective of results and I half expect him to declare himself emperor emeritus of the program, weld himself inside the football offices and never relinquish his position until he’s forcibly removed by the jaw of life from the UT premises. 

So you're saying we have a chance?

[SaucyJack 3521]

[Huckleberry 34743]

Just now, closetojumping said:

Given that I’d heard they were going to run an actual process on filling out the staff and that has turned out to be flatly incorrect, I’m not sure you should take anything I relay on this right now seriously. 

The dude allegedly needs to bring in top 5 classes in 2020 and 2021, beat Utah, win the conference next year and be in contention for the playoffs. Short of that, he’s hated by everybody except his boss, who continues to run interference for him with the money. So fuck CDC too, I guess. 

Who fucking knows. This guy is doing whatever the fuck he wants irrespective of results and I half expect him to declare himself emperor emeritus of the program, weld himself inside the football offices and never relinquish his position until he’s forcibly removed by the jaw of life from the UT premises. 

Somebody is basically flipping somebody off. Either it was Herman who was told by CDC to run a real hiring process but then just pretended to do so even though he knew he was going to hire Ash or else it was CDC who didn't require Herman to run a real process but told the major donors that it was going to happen.

More fun times ahead.

[Goodman 3283]

Now that is something I would watch, too bad LHN will likely run some shit programing vs going live to Galindo walking the ledge to interview Tom.

 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

3 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Somebody is basically flipping somebody off. Either it was Herman who was told by CDC to run a real hiring process but then just pretended to do so even though he knew he was going to hire Ash or else it was CDC who didn't require Herman to run a real process but told the major donors that it was going to happen.

More fun times ahead.

i'd bet (like $1) that the intention was to run a competent search but that pretty much out of the gate Herman realized anyone with a pulse was going to tell him to fly a kite, so here we are.

[Pato del Muerto 53581]

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

It’s actually a Wescott-Eberts, a procedure invented by reconstuctive urologists of the same name that separates the scrotum into two compartments to individually sequester each testicle.

Colloquially known as the frog eye procedure

[Nicole44 22326]

4 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Somebody is basically flipping somebody off. Either it was Herman who was told by CDC to run a real hiring process but then just pretended to do so even though he knew he was going to hire Ash or else it was CDC who didn't require Herman to run a real process but told the major donors that it was going to happen.

More fun times ahead.

This. Such a shit show if true. Facepalm. Embarrassing. 

[Goodman 3283]

4 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

i'd bet (like $1) that the intention was to run a competent search but that pretty much out of the gate Herman realized anyone with a pulse was going to tell him to fly a kite, so here we are.

Ash at DC is fine, upgrade.

OC and ST must now be fixed.

Edited December 16, 2019 by Goodman

[MoJames 8258]

The cool part of all of this is no one else outside of us deranged fans in burnt orange give a flying fuck about any of this. I guess USC fans have some concerns, but my OU buddy didn't even realize we had fired Orlando etc until I mentioned it to him a week after.

I guess what I'm saying is we all have a problem.

[Goodman 3283]

Just now, MoJames said:

The cool part of all of this is no one else outside of us deranged fans in burnt orange give a flying fuck about any of this. I guess USC fans have some concerns, but my OU buddy didn't even realize we had fired Orlando etc until I mentioned it to him a week after.

I guess what I'm saying is we all have a problem.

You should slap that okie and say BULLSHIT. They hate to admit it but like aggie and all other regional schools, they know exactly what is going on here. 

[closetojumping 65528]

1 minute ago, MoJames said:

The cool part of all of this is no one else outside of us deranged fans in burnt orange give a flying fuck about any of this. I guess USC fans have some concerns, but my OU buddy didn't even realize we had fired Orlando etc until I mentioned it to him a week after.

I guess what I'm saying is we all have a problem.

Why would OU people give one shit about what we’re doing? We’re completely irrelevant to what they’re trying to achieve these days. 

Of course, I can think of some folks besides us fans that might care. Quentin Johnston seems to care. Ty Jordan. Albert Collins. Princely Umainlymanlymaniston, Josh Eaton, and on and on. Those guys seem like they could give a fuck, and not in a good way with the way this has been handled. 

[Eskimohorn 5682]

Orlando did not stress fundamentals, that will change.That, less chance-taking on 3rd-and-Orlando, and the move to rugby style tackling should yield noticeable improvement.

Wait. You mean you’re allowed to use your arms to tackle?

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

12 minutes ago, Goodman said:

Ash at DC is fine, upgrade.

OC and ST must now be fixed.

Not sure that has anything to do with what I posted...maybe you meant to quote something else?

[Dbeasy 15613]

I’ve had time to reflect on Herman potentially rejecting Harrell and Air Raid. I’m enraged.

This program has spent the last 19 years watching that OU offense run up and down the field putting up mountains of points, and we finally have the chance to do the same and we aren’t going to do it?

How many more data points does Mensa need? SMU, WSU, North Carolina, and countless other programs instantly got better because of that offense. Quit trying to overthink it you moron and hire someone with Air Raid experience.

[TreatyOak 17409]

22 minutes ago, Goodman said:

Ash at DC is fine, upgrade.

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

30 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Short of that, he’s hated by everybody except his boss, who continues to run interference for him with the money. So fuck CDC too, I guess. 

I'd need to be an actual mind-reader to buy this, because running interference for a subordinate absolutely does not mean you don't hate their guts. It only means you have some sort of motivation to run interference for them. I've been on both ends of this (having interference run for me by a boss who hated my guts, and running interference for a subordinate, who I foisted off on another department at the first opportunity I got), so I'm not buying that CDC has anything to do with the short-term optics on this whole deal. He may still turn out to be a fuckhead, for all I know, but this isn't proof of it.

[Hiphopopotamos 21192]

50 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

Does Rhett actually call plays? I always assumed it was Dykes

Yes - Lashlee calls plays at SMU.

[Fud 9724]

53 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

Does Rhett actually call plays? I always assumed it was Dykes

Lashlee calls the plays. Also, Lashlee might not be a lock to come here if pursued. 

[Hiphopopotamos 21192]

6 minutes ago, Fud said:

Lashlee calls the plays. Also, Lashlee might not be a lock to come here if pursued. 

I've seen his name attached to a couple of other jobs that have opened up.

[Bozo_Casanova 26905]

1 minute ago, tjhooker said:

  I heard we are on the Dabo plan. 

Could be weird for me, my mother is dead. 

[closetojumping 65528]

9 minutes ago, Walden Ponderer said:

I'd need to be an actual mind-reader to buy this, because running interference for a subordinate absolutely does not mean you don't hate their guts. It only means you have some sort of motivation to run interference for them. I've been on both ends of this (having interference run for me by a boss who hated my guts, and running interference for a subordinate, who I foisted off on another department at the first opportunity I got), so I'm not buying that CDC has anything to do with the short-term optics on this whole deal. He may still turn out to be a fuckhead, for all I know, but this isn't proof of it.

It was a throw away comment. I don’t have the energy to get worked up over anything CDC is doing, really. I need him to be worth a fuck at his job over the long haul, but that’s personal, I guess. I don’t feel about his judgment if he’s trying to buy Herman more time when the money is telling him they’ll fund this buyout with no problems, but whatever. 

[ClubWhatever 12324]

8 minutes ago, Fud said:

Lashlee calls the plays. Also, Lashlee might not be a lock to come here if pursued. 

Also, he might not be pursued if he was a lock to come here.

[Hiphopopotamos 21192]

2 minutes ago, tjhooker said:

Quick question, did Dabo surround himself with his buddies?  I heard we are on the Dabo plan. 

Sort of.  The majority of Dabo's staff was made up of Clemson lifers the last time I took a close look at it.   Staff turnover up until this year was almost non-existent - I think thats the model Herman was trying to emulate (as opposed to Saban who isn't afraid to turnover his staff).

[Thiefery 5110]

So it's pretty much gospel what Anwar said of Tom and his OC reasoning..which means no Harrell? Because I don't buy it until Harrell, USC announces the extension he signed.

[Hiphopopotamos 21192]

Just now, Thiefery said:

So it's pretty much gospel what Anwar said of Tom and his OC reasoning..which means no Harrell? Because I don't buy it until Harrell, USC announces the extension he signed.

Its gospel because so many on here want it to be true.  We don't trust Anwar to wipe his own ass - but we'll take it as gospel something that is unlikely to be known by anyone but Tom, Michelle, and the hooker they're snorting blow off of.

Until USC announces something - I have to believe Harrell is still an option.

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

2 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

So it's pretty much gospel what Anwar said of Tom and his OC reasoning..which means no Harrell? Because I don't buy it until Harrell, USC announces the extension he signed.

If anything about any of this is any sort of Gospel, it's The Gospel According to Maplethorpe.

[Tex Long 4667]

1 hour ago, Tex Pete said:

I'd sooner watch Geoff Ketchum fuck Roseanne Barr.

Reverse that, and I'll buy a ticket to watch. "Pro" cameras okay?

[closetohumping 17826]

3 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

Reverse that, and I'll buy a ticket to watch. "Pro" cameras okay?

Would you rather attend a Celine dion concert with Kenny g or a Kenny g concert with Celine dion?

[dcar00 14995]

24 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

I've seen his name attached to a couple of other jobs that have opened up.

well sure, USC is going to be needing an OC soon.

[South Austin 53261]

This thread is killing me.  Seriously, it's giving me cancer.

[Bodacious Bevo 3691]

20 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

So it's pretty much gospel what Anwar said of Tom and his OC reasoning..which means no Harrell? Because I don't buy it until Harrell, USC announces the extension he signed.

IT is also saying Harrell is unlikely

[Minor Orangeblack 112]

2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

This thread is killing me.  Seriously, it's giving me cancer.

What type? 

[closetohumping 17826]

1 minute ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

IT is also saying Harrell is unlikely

Ugh.  And they were pretty bullish on us getting him

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13436]

4 minutes ago, South Austin said:

This thread is killing me.  Seriously, it's giving me cancer.

I’ll let your mom know. Well, after...

[Pig Bellmont 8888]

3 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

IT is also saying Harrell is unlikely

When there’s no news, you make up news and give yourself enough deniability to claim you were right from the beginning. Websites can’t feed the beast if they simply told the truth: “nothing new today on the OC front”

[Minor Orangeblack 112]

All of this has given South Austin stage 4 butt cancer 

IT is giving everyone ED

Tom Herman what have you done?
Del Conte, why have you foresaken us?

[El Squared 1855]

6 hours ago, South Austin said:

What do you expect from a guy named Wescott Eberts? 

I expect white shoes, a thong , a fuchsia scarf, lots of prancing instead of walking, and a lisp. 

Edited December 16, 2019 by El Squared

[Tex Long 4667]

13 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Would you rather attend a Celine dion concert with Kenny g or a Kenny g concert with Celine dion?

No.

I can close my eyes, but I've not found a decent set of ear-protectors, even aircraft carrier deck crew helmets wouldn't stop that shit.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

33 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Its gospel because so many on here want it to be true.  We don't trust Anwar to wipe his own ass - but we'll take it as gospel something that is unlikely to be known by anyone but Tom, Michelle, and the hooker they're snorting blow off of.

Until USC announces something - I have to believe Harrell is still an option.

And when Harrell is no longer an option will you to start to realize the gravity of the situation?

Edited December 16, 2019 by DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt
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[Tex Long 4667]

3 minutes ago, El Squared said:

I expect white shoes, a thong , and a fuchsia scarf, and a lisp. 

Fuchsia Scarf is a damned fine band name, although A Fuchsia Scarf and a Lisp is a good title for an international gender-bender thriller based on the Epstein story.

[Hiphopopotamos 21192]

Just now, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

And when Harrell is no longer an option will to start to realize the gravity of the situation?

Depends on who is actually named OC.  I certainly would love to see Harrell as OC - but he's not the only OC that could lead a very successful offense here at Texas. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

3 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Depends on who is actually named OC.  I certainly would love to see Harrell as OC - but he's not the only OC that could lead a very successful offense here at Texas. 

gotcha. out of curiosity, what are some of those names? and given the target list, how would you rate herman's ability (and the likelihood) to get one of those targets (especially in light of the hypothetical whiff on Harrell)?

[Skipper 6412]

42 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

So it's pretty much gospel what Anwar said of Tom and his OC reasoning..which means no Harrell? Because I don't buy it until Harrell, USC announces the extension he signed.

It also lines up with everything we know about Herman's personality.   I don't know why I let myself be convinced he would be smart enough to give up total control of the offense to the best OC on the market and focus on being a head coach .  Nope, he's going to micromanage his shit show right into the ground.

[Chrispy_ 105]

So Burton had an article out this morning stating that Herman would have difficulty relinquishing the reins to Harrell and mentioned Major as a possibility. 
 

Edited December 16, 2019 by Chrispy_

[Ricky Butler 2809]

6 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Depends on who is actually named OC.  I certainly would love to see Harrell as OC - but he's not the only OC that could lead a very successful offense here at Texas. 

Yeah, there are a lot of OCs I would like as much as Harrell, but we need Tom to give us a reason to believe. I wonder if the $9.95ers are pissed about Harrell because he would allow them more access to the programs.

 

[Pig Bellmont 8888]

1 minute ago, Chrispy_ said:

So Burton had an article out this morning stating that Herman would have difficulty relinquishing the reigns to Harrell and mentioned Major as a possibility. 
 

Maybe in Burton’s own fantasy, but Major isn’t getting hired again 

[Ricky Butler 2809]

1 minute ago, Chrispy_ said:

So Burton had an article out this morning stating that Herman would have difficulty relinquishing the reigns to Harrell and mentioned Major as a possibility. 
 

If Herman hires Major, I may have to take a year off.

[Rimbo 27088]

1 hour ago, UncleBuck said:

Not really, fella. 

Play-calling within an offense is quite different from the offense itself, and can hinder an otherwise productive offense if executed poorly. 

I see a little further down the thread you make another attempt at words, but are wrong again. It's not that I'm defending Tom, because I'm actually saying it's his fault, whether he physically called plays or not, that the offense wasn't executed correctly. I'm simply defending the offense, because we've seen what it can do when executed properly, as recently as this year as a matter or fact. It just wasn't in Austin.

And it doesn't really help when you don't have the right QB running it. 

 

See, I'm going to disagree with you here on a fundamental point: A good offensive scheme adapts to the abilities of the players running it, not the other way around.

That's the tail wagging the dog.

If the problem with the offense is that we don't have the right QB for it, then that's a flaw with the scheme itself, and it doesn't matter who's calling the plays.

[Minor Orangeblack 112]

ole miss is probably gonna have a more high flying offense with their new OC. Would have been nice to give someone like that a look. But Art Briles.... and all that