2020 Coaching Staff

[Rhinotx 499]

3 minutes ago, ultimaton said:

Well duh, we play at Baton Rouge next season.

[trythisathome 971]

Is it simply too risky to try to go after an non-OC NFL guy? Maybe there's a bit of recency bias, but is sure seems like Ryan Day and Joe Brady worked out pretty well 

[bigcigar 1161]

5 minutes ago, trythisathome said:

Is it simply too risky to try to go after an non-OC NFL guy? Maybe there's a bit of recency bias, but is sure seems like Ryan Day and Joe Brady worked out pretty well 

I bet Kellen Moore will be available.

[Llewelyn Moss 203]

2 hours ago, Landomatic said:

Not joking at all.  I remember he was the highest paid coordinator in CFB at Clemson 5 years ago.  I also remember that Clemson got considerably better after he left.  I also remember when he was hired at SMU, which seemed to make sense (Texas ties, hot name, etc).  Then I remember that he was fairly average at SMU and that SMU has also gotten considerably better since he left.  Then I seem to remember that his time at Arkansas was a total shit show.

Pretty much on a downward trajectory since he was the flavor of the day at Clemson 5 years ago from what I can tell.  His 5 minutes of fame are up.  Plus I think he’ll probably want to go wherever his son ends up, and Texas hasn’t even offered him so I’m not seeing it happening.

I’d rather have Harrell and it’s not even close.  Probably rather have Lashlee or Brady too.

Still wild to me that the dude started at Eustace High School. And that if it weren’t for a freak running back named Dale Cope, we might not have ever heard of Chad Morris. 

[TheMailBox357 213]

1 hour ago, ckhorn said:

Also, not so sure how great Joe Brady actually is. Burrow and those receivers would make anyone look good. I have Harrell ahead of him.

Co-sign. If Chad Morris & Baby Briles aren't options for the OC job, than Harrell makes the most sense. Joe Brady's NEVER been a playcaller & we don't know if he just lucked into the right QB. Meanwhile Harrell runs a proven established familiar offensive system in CFB & Texas H.S. football.

[freyguy 4245]

[Murfdogg21 4412]

The Indiana OC’s head coaching experience will come in handy when he takes over as interim HC after the OU game. 

[Stunns38 3357]

I have a feeling a portal transfer QB will make his way to LSU.

Heads would explode if Casey Thompson transferred there and put up Heisman numbers next year. That’d be our luck.

[LTtxfan 48980]

1 minute ago, Stunns38 said:

Heads would explode if Casey Thompson transferred there and put up Heisman numbers next year. That’d be our luck.

Casey can't play for LSU in 2020...

[Aldo Raine 122]

Casey can't play for LSU in 2020...

lol ok - Justin Fields

[Stunns38 3357]

Casey can't play for LSU in 2020...

Oh yeah, he redshirted last year. Can put in an appeal since his amazing OC Beck got fired, lol.

[The People’s Elbow 707]

4 hours ago, XYZ said:

Hire Wisconsin’s DC.

The guy whose defense gave up half a thousand yards not to mention the 27 pts in the second half. That guy? 

[TheBryMan81 2502]

1 hour ago, TheMailBox357 said:

Co-sign. If Chad Morris & Baby Briles aren't options for the OC job, than Harrell makes the most sense. Joe Brady's NEVER been a playcaller & we don't know if he just lucked into the right QB. Meanwhile Harrell runs a proven established familiar offensive system in CFB & Texas H.S. football.

I thought it was pretty well known that Joe Brady is calling the plays now. No one seriously expected him to come in to teach an offense, and some old guy is gonna call plays in an offense that he's never run before, right? Actually, now that I think of it, I'm not sure what Entsminger even does....

Plus, there's a significant difference between Burrow this year vs last year. I subscribe to the theory that Brady made Burrow, not the other way around. If Brady came on as OC, I'd be ecstatic about that

[trythisathome 971]

I'm likely talking out of my ass, but surely there exists another Joe Brady who's still hiding in the NFL somewhere. I'd much rather Herman go ballsy and roll the dice than hire a known G5 commodity (that's assuming we can't sway a big name) 

[Scooter Monzingo 820]

17 minutes ago, TheBryMan81 said:

I thought it was pretty well known that Joe Brady is calling the plays now. No one seriously expected him to come in to teach an offense, and some old guy is gonna call plays in an offense that he's never run before, right? Actually, now that I think of it, I'm not sure what Entsminger even does....

Plus, there's a significant difference between Burrow this year vs last year. I subscribe to the theory that Brady made Burrow, not the other way around. If Brady came on as OC, I'd be ecstatic about that

I don’t know. Take the time to pull up some of Burrow from last year. He was making great throws into tight windows, and using his mobility to extend plays. 

Now he is a year older and experienced. Sure, Brady may have smoothed out the rough edges. And added some elements. But Burrow showed plenty of signs that he was more than a good QB last year.

[Right53VeerPass 42]

I was bored, so I started skimming NFL coaching rosters and one name popped out at me. Mike Kafka is the QB coach for the Chiefs. He's 30 years old, played QB at Northwestern and has worked with Reid + Mahomes for the past 2 years. It's also an incredibly fitting name--UT football has been nothing if not Kafkaesque over the past decade.

[A’Dam Psycho 1469]

Were basically doing the same bullshit with coaching hires. Settling for comfortable, ok, hopeful picks instead of throwing our weight around and getting elite proven guys. Chris Ash and Graham Harrell is honestly the best we can do? Ohio St defense wasn’t great when they won the National Championship and Ash sucked at Rutgers but that’s the guy? Did we even give Heacock a call? Same shit

[Landomatic 3813]

4 hours ago, trythisathome said:

I'm likely talking out of my ass

Then you've come to the right place.  Welcome.

[SydneyCarton 47884]

Harrell is a big name hire that moves the needle. He’s probably good, and his name will raise eyebrows of recruits. That’s a good thing. Ash less so. 
 

I think my grumble is that Herman isn’t casting a wide net to our knowledge. Like Joe Brady (or the Kafka guy mentioned) you can do a real search and if the guy is a great coach and fit, you can create that narrative that moves the needle. Just like Brady. And then Brady paid off. I don’t have a problem with Harrell, but the search still seems blunted. Herman seems to be going after lazy “splash” candidates. But we’ll see.

Edited December 8, 2019 by SydneyCarton

[EastTexan 662]

21 hours ago, DFW Horn said:

Sure we are. Can't you see it?

I've done that, with many expletives, during many, many games.

[DixonHur 11227]

27 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

or the Kafka guy

We're about a century too late, but his offense would be absurd

[EastTexan 662]

20 hours ago, stork642 said:

Harrell is probably talking it over with his dad this morning and will let Herman know one way or the other after that.  Wonder what Herman said to his dad?

"Hope you're feeling well. Wanna go check out some Dallas strippers".

[Landomatic 3813]

5 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said:

There is zero chance we are getting Brady. Zero. He’d be the clear #1. Harrell is a possibility that gets less likely by the day. Lashlee has a great O mind and I’d be thrilled with him too. I’m pretty cold on Morris. 

I agree there's no chance at Brady.  He's just be a position coach (at least in title) at LSU right now, so t first glance, it may have seemed like Texas could offer him a pretty good promotion, which we could.  But then you have to assume LSU would just match whatever offer we were able to throw at him and make him co-OC and boom, the Texas job is suddenly a step backward (as has been pointed out by several other posters).  I don't think UT could offer anything that LSU won't easily match so he's not going anywhere.

Harrell is a little different story.  Very similar situations between USC and Texas.  I assume both could give him equal money and equal job title.  As for job security, you have to assume Helton and Herman are pretty much one in the same as far as the next year or two.  They're both on pretty thin ice.  The only differentiator I can see is that Harrell is a Texas guy so he might want to come home.  But you also have to weigh that against the continuity factor of staying at USC, both professionally and personally.  We can throw everything we want at him to try to pry him loose, but you have to believe that, as arguably Helton's best asset, USC is going to throw everything at him to not let that happen.  I think I'd stay if I were him.  Although, fuck living in California so I'd probably be ready to get back to Texas at the first chance I had.

Lashlee probably seems the most likely from the names I've seen thrown around the most.  Hard to tell how much is him and how much is Dykes.  He's definitely had somewhat of a downward trajectory post-Auburn.  But again, hard to know what all the circumstances were surrounding that.  I think another factor that may play into this is the Arkansas gig.  Whoever lands there as the head coach will undoubtedly have Lashlee toward the top of their list, especially if it's Eliah Drinkwitz.  So, he may want to wait that out and see what happens.

I'm cool (not cold) on Morris too for reasons already stated.  And I really don't think it's very likely.  If Texas is able to pry Harrell from USC, I could see Morris ending up there.

[Landomatic 3813]

49 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I think my grumble is that Herman isn’t casting a wide net to our knowledge.

We don't know that.  I'm no Herman apologist, but we really have no way of knowing how big of a net is being cast.  I can promise you, just through normal coaching circle relationships built through a lifetime of being in the business, Herman's net is much bigger than the local media and a bunch of us surly posters.  He may have started with a list of 100 names for all we know.  This mentality is just a product of us getting tunnel vision from the few top candidates we hear about here and through the 9.95ers.

Edit - That’s not to say I think Herman doesn’t somehow fuck this up.  I think he probably will, at least on one side of the ball.

Edited December 8, 2019 by Landomatic

[El Squared 1793]

How excellent /innovative does an OC or DC need to be to have us at a championship level team?

it seems like recent CFB champions have great OL/DLs, good DBs, mobile QBs, 1-2 great receivers . 

Imagine what we could have been  with average or even slightly above OLs  average to slightly above avg DBs, last 10 years.

I’m guessing 15-25% more Ws, because then, we get to see what the results of recruiting other great position players can be. 

. It shouldn’t take hero hires on OC or DC to turn this around and maybe save Densa’s bubble gum ass, but he is his own worst enemy.

[Handcruser 2805]

I prefer the app state guy of OC. Drinkwitz or whatever. He’s got HC experience and maybe that could help Tom




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[Walden Ponderer 12639]

Kafka is a non-starter. If he comes to the college game at all, he's clearly a TCU guy.

[Landomatic 3813]

5 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

I prefer the app state guy of OC. Drinkwitz or whatever. He’s got HC experience and maybe that could help Tom

Think he's going to Arkansas.

[EastTexan 662]

How much time for hires to happen? I say Tom needs to get on the stick and make this shit happen. And hope like hell he doesn't f this up. (Obvious points)

[bigup2dahorns 3343]

How much time for hires to happen? I say Tom needs to get on the stick and make this shit happen. And hope like hell he doesn't f this up. (Obvious points)

Herman spent much of yesterday in MCKinney at the Duncanville Vs Southlake game dealing with recruiting and didn’t appear to be on his phone. Maybe we hear something later today or tomorrow but Tuesday is always the hot day here.

[Neonmoon 38127]

Lashlee, Hand, Samples, Herman, Drayton all seemed like they were having a good time yesterday 

 

[BurntOrange&White 39663]

If he actually hires Ash as DC he should be fired for cause.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13010]

38 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

I prefer the app state guy of OC. Drinkwitz or whatever. He’s got HC experience and maybe that could help Tom




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You want a head coach for a ranked D1 team, who’s a candidate for head coaching gigs, to take our OC job? You may want to get your weed from a reputable source.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

Just googled the app state coaches...had assumed y’all were talking about their OC. LO-fucking-L you clowns are actually talking about their head coach becoming our OC.

We’re the college football fandom equivalent of a scene out of trainspotting.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13010]

8 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

If he actually hires Ash as DC he should be fired for cause.

I will laugh my ass off if Ash comes here and immediately makes Texas a top 20 defense next year.

[mdmost 42865]

We wouldn't be Texas fans if we didn't have unrealistic expectations. 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

4 minutes ago, Casual Encounter said:

I will laugh my ass off if Ash comes here and immediately makes Texas a top 20 defense next year.

...then we worry he’s going to be poached for an HC gig, then shits down his leg for the next 2 years then gets canned, right?

Edited December 8, 2019 by DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt
Coffee, need more

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13010]

Just now, mdmost said:

We wouldn't be Texas fans if we didn't bitch and moan about everything.

 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13010]

Just now, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

...then we worry he’s going to be poached for an HC, then shits down his leg his leg for the next 2 years then gets canned, right?

You’ve seen this movie? Spoiler alert, dude!

[Sock Drawer 214]

11 hours ago, nunna yo bizness said:

If we got rid of all the annoying posters on here there'd be nobody left but the Iowa St guys.

They're the Canadians of football board posters.

[Leanderman 2267]

I resemble that remark.

[Daichee Bell 2925]

Harrell is a big name hire that moves the needle. He’s probably good, and his name will raise eyebrows of recruits. That’s a good thing. Ash less so. 
 
I think my grumble is that Herman isn’t casting a wide net to our knowledge. Like Joe Brady (or the Kafka guy mentioned) you can do a real search and if the guy is a great coach and fit, you can create that narrative that moves the needle. Just like Brady. And then Brady paid off. I don’t have a problem with Harrell, but the search still seems blunted. Herman seems to be going after lazy “splash” candidates. But we’ll see.

I get all the angst, but Herman has done some staff changes that people praised in the past. He thought outside the box and making Carrington a temporary coach to help with recruiting. As you mentioned, “to our knowledge,” we aren’t sure of the search parameters. He brought in Hand and no one knew he was coming. Hand was certainly helpful last year. People keep asking to point out some things that Herman has done, and there are some.....he just has never had to fire anyone before. Let’s wait another couple and see what happens.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

1 minute ago, Daichee Bell said:

I get all the angst, but Herman has done some staff changes that people praised in the past. He thought outside the box and making Carrington a temporary coach to help with recruiting.

Dude.

[Landomatic 3813]

3 minutes ago, Daichee Bell said:

Let’s wait another couple and see what happens.

Like we have a choice.

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

I know one thing.  No matter who is hired as OC, this board will be disappointed.  No matter who is hired as DC, this board will be disappointed.  
 

And that’s exactly right.  

[Daichee Bell 2925]

I will laugh my ass off if Ash comes here and immediately makes Texas a top 20 defense next year.

And then falls apart in year three like Orlando and Bedford?

[Daichee Bell 2925]

I know one thing.  No matter who is hired as OC, this board will be disappointed.  No matter who is hired as DC, this board will be disappointed.  
 
And that’s exactly right.  

Yeah, I’m not saying I’m going to be happy about it, I’m just willing to give it a little time.

[TexEx15 17487]

9 minutes ago, Daichee Bell said:

And then falls apart in year three like Orlando and Bedford?

So new DC ever year then. 

[Murfdogg21 4412]

Texas needs to stop hiring: 1. BFF’s of HC’s, 2. Flavor of the month, flash in the pan types, 3. Recommendations of Mack Brown. 

If some random Surly poster can spend an hour and generate a list of D1 and NFL assistants that are young, hungry, and innovative, Tom Herman should be fired if he only works from a list of his butt buddies and buzz names. Graham Harrell has been put on the pedestal like we should feel grateful if he agrees to take UT’s $1M+ per year. Then his ego will get in the way of his hunger (sound familiar?) and we can queue the 2021 HC search. 
This coordinator search is reminiscent of when Mack started using DCTF magazine as his initial filter for recruiting from 2003-2009. Herman buzzing the ESPN message boards looking for hot take names, while probably planning to settle on his buddies Ash and Lashlee, and his ego/mensa is telling him how he’s going to prove he’s been right all along to us Internet assholes by ramming the Herman way down our throats in 2020. 

Texas has a near unlimited budget. Strong and Herman could literally scour the countrysides and hire 50 analysts to scrutinize every weakness of every opponent in every situation, and self-audit our own tendencies and weaknesses to correct them or exploit our opponents’ anticipation. But no, you get Pistol QB sneak and RB dive on every short yardage situation and you’ll fucking like it. You get Shawn Watson, Vance Bedford, Tim Beck, Drew Mehringer, Todd Orlando. Yes sir, may I please have another?

[Walden Ponderer 12639]

3 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Texas needs to stop hiring: 1. BFF’s of HC’s, 2. Flavor of the month, flash in the pan types, 3. Recommendations of Mack Brown. 

If some random Surly poster can spend an hour and generate a list of D1 and NFL assistants that are young, hungry, and innovative, Tom Herman should be fired if he only works from a list of his butt buddies and buzz names. Graham Harrell has been put on the pedestal like we should feel grateful if he agrees to take UT’s $1M+ per year. Then his ego will get in the way of his hunger (sound familiar?) and we can queue the 2021 HC search. 
This coordinator search is reminiscent of when Mack started using DCTF magazine as his initial filter for recruiting from 2003-2009. Herman buzzing the ESPN message boards looking for hot take names, while probably planning to settle on his buddies Ash and Lashlee, and his ego/mensa is telling him how he’s going to prove he’s been right all along to us Internet assholes by ramming the Herman way down our throats in 2020. 

Texas has a near unlimited budget. Strong and Herman could literally scour the countrysides and hire 50 analysts to scrutinize every weakness of every opponent in every situation, and self-audit our own tendencies and weaknesses to correct them or exploit our opponents’ anticipation. But no, you get Pistol QB sneak and RB dive on every short yardage situation and you’ll fucking like it. You get Shawn Watson, Vance Bedford, Tim Beck, Drew Mehringer, Todd Orlando. Yes sir, may I please have another?