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Is Tulsi Gabbard A Russian Asset?


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8 hours ago, GW Hayduke said:

Yes. We know you don’t really care about Tulsi. You are just bending over backwards to defend her because you don’t want folks speaking bad about Russia. Thx for the honesty. Makes total sense. It also makes sense that you’ve vehemently defended Assange and defended Russian election meddling. It makes further sense that you were forced by the Dems to vote Trump and that your preferred strategy is to divide the left.  

Dude if you're the left then fuck you and fuck everything about you.  No one I associate with would ever vote for Trump under any circumstance but we sure as shit wouldn't support your ass. 

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2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Bernie shouldn’t have weighed in on this, there are far more important issues he could address.

Hey, Bernie Would Know !

John Haltiwanger   Feb 26, 2019

Several of Sen. Bernie Sander's top advisers abruptly broke ties with the Vermont senator's 2020 campaign on Tuesday, including one adviser with ties to former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

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The departure comes after increased public scrutiny into Devine's past work with Manafort as a consultant in Ukraine, NBC reported.

Manafort and Devine worked together to help the pro-Russia Ukrainian leader Viktor Yanukovych in 2010. Yanukovych was eventually ousted during the Ukrainian revolution in 2014 and now lives in exile in Russia. 

Devine, who was chief strategist for Sanders in 2016, last year revealed he's cooperated with special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian election interference. 

"The Special Counsel has asked Tad Devine to appear and testify about media consulting work on past political campaigns in Ukraine," DML said in a statement in July 2018. "We have been assured by the Special Counsel’s Office that we have no legal exposure, did not act unlawfully, and that Tad is testifying as a fact witness."

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hi Bernie, nice little swamp you had there.

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5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Bernie hires a lot of questionable people so I don’t read too much into the Tad Devine stuff. 

It’s why I referenced ‘swamp’.  No one heard of or knew about FARA violations until Mueller rolled through.  Bernie’s coterie was no different.

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11 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Are you accusing Tad Devine of a FARA violation? Any evidence for this or is it just a matter of accusing everyone you don't like of crimes and disloyalty?

 

 

You honestly have to ask that?  Have you been somnambulant for the last three years?

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40 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Are you accusing Tad Devine of a FARA violation? Any evidence for this or is it just a matter of accusing everyone you don't like of crimes and disloyalty?

 

I don't know what to make of Tad Devine.  Here he is grouped (in the urea colored shirt) with Paul Manafort and GRU-linked Konstantin Kilimnik.  Devine was known to have been in touch with Kilimnik as recently as 2014.  I guess that places Devine a lot closer in time to Bernie than it does Kerry in '04, but perhaps more notably it places him with Bernie after his Ukraine work with Manafort and a guy linked to Russian military intelligence.

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So yeah, not FARA violations.  you're good to go, Bernie.

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Bernie is a socialist.

Putin was a KGB agent in the Union of Soviet Socialist Republic.

Ergo, Bernie is a Russian asset.

Beto O'Rourke is Irish not Mexican. Sinn Fein is a socialist party in Northern Ireland, therefore Beto must be a Putin puppet.

Obama, "The 80's called..." plus he is a Kenyan Muslim Satanist Black Panther Socialist meant to divide the nation to benefit Putin. Russian Asset.

I don't know what to make of Hillary Clinton but yada yada, Reset, Uranium One. Not to mention Bill plus Epstein = Kompromat. Don't forget Bill likes the not so attractive women, Butina! Bill is definitely a Russian Asset.

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On 10/20/2019 at 5:51 PM, Bama Chick said:

I just find it funny that Hillary never mentioned Tulsi by name and Tulsi immediately started freaking out and defending herself “I’m no Russian asset!!”.

A hit dog will holler.

She used the phrases "she" and "Democrat presidential candidate" in her accusation.  That narrows it down to Warren, Harris, Gabbard, and Williamson.  You didn't have to be Lt. Columbo to know who she was referring to.

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Just now, EMAWesome said:

She used the phrases "she" and "Democrat presidential candidate" in her accusation.  That narrows it down to Warren, Gabbard, and Williamson.  You didn't have to be Lt. Columbo to know who she was referring to.

Please can we not sully the name of a venerated man in this quagmire of a thread.

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22 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

She used the phrases "she" and "Democrat presidential candidate" in her accusation.  That narrows it down to Warren, Harris, Gabbard, and Williamson.  You didn't have to be Lt. Columbo to know who she was referring to.

Extremely disrespectful of Klobuchar, TBH.

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Anyone's a Russian asset that doesn't tow the party line or the sacred establishment principle of forever war and interventionism.  It's getting insanely Orwellian right now and I feel sorry for those that can't see it.  

"But Swindle, Tulsi can be a Russian asset unwittingly!"

"But Swindle, Tulsi can be a Russian asset even though the Russians don't know she knows she's not an asset!"  

95% of the establishment media and their ilk just regurgitate the same line, lock step and now they're going after Bernie.  Could it be that Bernie is actually doing the right thing since Tulsi went to bat for him after speaking out against the corrupt DNC in the 2016 election?  She took a risk and her actions were not allowable by the establishment.  Plain and simple.  

 

 

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On 10/20/2019 at 8:48 AM, bad_teammate said:

Give me a specific thing Tulsi has done and I'll be happy to address it in context.

I think she sucks, so be prepared for a lot of "Yeah that's a shitty opinion of hers, she sucks."

How about saying Fuck you to the corrupt DNC establishment and supporting your boy Bernie Sanders out of principle.  How about serving in the military in the Wars she's opposed to?  

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/28/tulsi-gabbard-quits-dnc-support-bernie-sanders

 

 

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If someone is a "Russian asset" simply because they promote policy that the powerful people in Russia likes, then the term "asset" is completely meaningless. The term "asset" only has meaning if Russia can influence or control or actively use that "asset".

Both the US and Russia want(ed) a drawdown of nuclear weapons systems. Did that make the presidents in charge "assets" of the other nation when they agreed to do it? Russia wants the US to produce less carbon. Does that make all American environmental activists Russian "assets"? Does it make Obama a Russian "asset"?

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Don't bother having your own ideas, beliefs, or critical thoughts, just pick people you don't like and then do/say the opposite of whatever they do/say.

A right-winger says he hates trans people? OK, I'll love trans people.

A right-winger says he hates black people? OK, I'll love black people.

A right-winger says he hates John McCain? OK, John McCain is a Hero.

A right-winger says war is bad? Actually, idiot, war is cool and good!

A right-winger says Russia isn't really much of a threat and has far less influence than is being presented in mass media? Ok, buddy, I'm resurrecting Joseph McCarthy and I'm going to find all the Commies in my own party!

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I seem to remember the people calling Trump a Putin puppet in 2016 were labeled crazy conspiracy theorists and the folks raising alarm bells about Russian interference were constantly being gaslight by Greenwald, Tracey, and Jill Stein.  They were claiming Russia had nothing to do with the Wikileaks operation while simultaneously echoing Kremlin propaganda themselves.  Good times.  

You'd think we would want to be on guard a little more for candidates with weird positions like covering for Assad and Trump, both Putin puppets.  I have no idea if Tulsi is a Russian asset but she sure as hell acts like she is and that by itself should be disqualifying considering it's not hard to rhetorically throw Putin under the bus or disavow the support he's giving your campaign.  Two things Tulsi refuses to do. 

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3 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Tulsi is not a Russian asset, but she is the same type of garbage as every person in this godawful picture of monsters.

 

Are you willing to put Bernie in the same company?  As you mentioned:

 

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  On 10/20/2019 at 8:48 AM, bad_teammate said:

Give me a specific thing Tulsi has done and I'll be happy to address it in context.

I think she sucks, so be prepared for a lot of "Yeah that's a shitty opinion of hers, she sucks."

How about saying Fuck you to the corrupt DNC establishment and supporting your boy Bernie Sanders out of principle.  How about serving in the military in the Wars she's opposed to?  

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/28/tulsi-gabbard-quits-dnc-support-bernie-sanders

Please address her principled stance against the corrupt DNC establishment in defense of your boy Bernie Sanders.  Why would she do that?  Why isn't their an investigation by the military into her being a Rooskie?  

 

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The vibe I get is that Tulsi as a third party candidate would likely pull away some Trump voters...unless Trump tapped her to replace lame ass Pence in which case she’d pull some Dem voters to Dotus.

Seems like Hilldawg threw a shoe in any fantasy about that happening.  Instead of someone like Tulsi lending a veil of credibility to Trump in the face of mobbed up Russophilia, now Tulsi accepting would all but rekindle and confirm the controversy about her.

fwiw, Nikki Haley is not dumb enough, corrupt enough, (or culti enough) to touch that invitation.

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2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

...it's not hard to rhetorically throw Putin under the bus or disavow the support he's giving your campaign.  Two things Tulsi refuses to do. 

What if she doesn't think Putin is helping her campaign?

I mean, she missed one debate and barely made the most recent one. If anything is happening, it's basically nothing and there's no impact on the race.

9 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

The vibe I get is that Tulsi as a third party candidate would likely pull away some Trump voters...

Has Tulsi ever indicated a desire to run as a third party candidate or has a third party ever talked about her running for them?

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12 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

What if she doesn't think Putin is helping her campaign?

I mean, she missed one debate and barely made the most recent one. If anything is happening, it's basically nothing and there's no impact on the race.

Has Tulsi ever indicated a desire to run as a third party candidate or has a third party ever talked about her running for them?

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Peace. 

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7 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Tulsi is not a Russian asset, but she is the same type of garbage as every person in this godawful picture of monsters.

 

Henry Kissinger is up there among the worst people who ever lived. I’ll pay for that to be on his gravestone if and when that guy ever dies. 

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16 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Henry Kissinger is up there among the worst people who ever lived.

Not even close but he’s hated for understandable reasons.  Nothing Kissinger did was much different from what the people that came before or after him have done.  

We dropped nuclear bombs on civilian populations for similar reasons Kissinger did what he did in Vietnam.  He’s a monster but he’s not special.

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5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Not even close but he’s hated for understandable reasons.  Nothing Kissinger did was much different from what the people that came before or after him have done.  

We dropped nuclear bombs on civilian populations for similar reasons Kissinger did what he did in Vietnam.  He’s a monster but he’s not special.

A garden variety geo political player of the era.

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