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Is Tulsi Gabbard A Russian Asset?


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Love to promote the destruction of capital power with all of my fellow Republican friends.

We are out here, wildin' out, wanting to take every penny of individual wealth over $50M and distribute it among the people, all Republican style.

Rolling down the street throwing copies of What Is To Be Done? at cops to own the libs.

Republican gang shit.

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9 minutes ago, GW Hayduke said:

You are free to have your opinion. Dude pushes trump talking points. He is clearly a trumpkin. Feel free to drop some logic or support for your position

Use your brain and look at his posting history. Also maybe look at which candidate he supports 

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29 minutes ago, Calihorn said:

Use your brain and look at his posting history. Also maybe look at which candidate he supports 

Nice logic and support for your position. Next time try something like this:

On 11/8/2019 at 12:07 PM, GW Hayduke said:

I understand a good trumpkin sometime fails to see (or pretends not to see) right wing talking points.

“It’s a false choice for people to say you’re anti-immigrant if you support secure borders. That’s just not the case.”

That is a right-wing talking point. Tulsi is reinforcing the right’s victimhood with their own strawman. Clearly.

I understand a good trumpkin would want breitbart to get more traction

 

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15 minutes ago, Calihorn said:

BT has a long history as easily the most liberal poster on the board. That’s all I need

Then you need to get some experience with how the current political climate has been working. “A liberal poster” does not negate that they are a trumpkin.

I bet you think those BLM twitter accounts in 2016 telling folks to not vote were all lefties.

i bet you think the Reddit berni-bros telling folks to not vote Hillary were all lefties.

i bet you think Gabbard is a lefty.

Understand the concept of “wedge” in politics and how it shaped the 2016 outcome.

Now realize an account like BT actively wedging between the left while literally pushing trump talking points. 

wake the fuck up 

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4 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

Glenn would do spots on MSNBC and CNN in a heartbeat if they would invite him. He'll go anywhere and talk to anyone and is completely fearless in promoting his ideas in any venue. He isn't cloistering himself, the mainstream press is simply terrified of him because he (rightfully) hates them and will tell them why to their faces.

Hillary IS corrupt.
Biden IS corrupt.
Assange is complicated, but certainly not a clear villain.
#Resistance idiots are annoying and focused on stupid bullshit because their real politics are largely bad.
"Divide the left" doesn't fucking mean anything (so meaningless you said it twice)

Glenn is an actual, real anti-fascist. He's not here to be a Democratic party booster and fanboy, because fascist elements exist within the Democratic party as well.

Assange coordinated with Putin’s military intelligence apparatus and Roger Stone to break the law and install Trump.  You don’t consider him ‘a villain’ whatever the hell that means.

Greenwald has consistently been a Russian election attack denier.  Left or right he’s detached from reality on this matter and can take his Putin puffing and go fuck himself.

oh, and BUT HILLARY! lol

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51 minutes ago, GW Hayduke said:

Then you need to get some experience with how the current political climate has been working. “A liberal poster” does not negate that they are a trumpkin.

I bet you think those BLM twitter accounts in 2016 telling folks to not vote were all lefties.

i bet you think the Reddit berni-bros telling folks to not vote Hillary were all lefties.

i bet you think Gabbard is a lefty.

Understand the concept of “wedge” in politics and how it shaped the 2016 outcome.

Now realize an account like BT actively wedging between the left while literally pushing trump talking points. 

wake the fuck up 

I think we're up to 3 different posters in here saying I'm a paid Russian agent. Fuckin' owns.

49 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

Assange coordinated with Putin’s military intelligence apparatus and Roger Stone to break the law and install Trump.  You don’t consider him ‘a villain’ whatever the hell that means.

"install" lol

Assange coordinated the release of embarrassing emails to damage someone he didn't like (Hillary). Not sure to what extent he coordinated with Stone on it, but it doesn't really matter. The content of the DNC email leak was newsworthy so I have no problem with the publication of those emails. RNC e-mail leaks should be published as well.

Assange isn't great, but he's not evil, either. Word's complicated, dude.

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Greenwald has consistently been a Russian election attack denier.

Not every single aspect, but much of it was actually bullshit as demonstrated by Mueller's report.

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1 hour ago, GW Hayduke said:

Then you need to get some experience with how the current political climate has been working. “A liberal poster” does not negate that they are a trumpkin.

I bet you think those BLM twitter accounts in 2016 telling folks to not vote were all lefties.

i bet you think the Reddit berni-bros telling folks to not vote Hillary were all lefties.

i bet you think Gabbard is a lefty.

Understand the concept of “wedge” in politics and how it shaped the 2016 outcome.

Now realize an account like BT actively wedging between the left while literally pushing trump talking points. 

wake the fuck up 

Wake up, says the delusional conspiracy theorist. Pretty audacious. 

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1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Assange coordinated the release of embarrassing emails to damage someone he didn't like (Hillary). Not sure to what extent he coordinated with Stone on it, but it doesn't really matter. The content of the DNC email leak was newsworthy so I have no problem with the publication of those emails. RNC e-mail leaks should be published as well.

Assange isn't great, but he's not evil, either. Word's complicated, dude.

Not every single aspect, but much of it was actually bullshit as demonstrated by Mueller's report.

- You're obviously unaware of testimony/evidence in the ongoing Roger Stone trial.

-You don't have a problem with private data being stolen by foreign powers then being publicly welcomed and knowingly used to damage a political opponent.  You know what that makes you ?  It isn't pretty and smells.  Again, pay attention to the evidence and testimony on the fucking Roger Stone trial before play idiot.

- You know what Greenwald completely fails to mention or consider in that piece of shit article ?  Mueller nailing down all three elements for nearly a dozen charges of obstruction of justice.  get the fuck out.

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3 hours ago, Calihorn said:

BT has a long history as easily the most liberal poster on the board. That’s all I need

That is his point. BT has a long history of being an insanely "liberal" poster, far from the normal left posters on here. He's antagonistic while doing so and has a long history of making misleading posts, while adding very little original content.

However, he minimizes the Mueller investigation, he minimizes Russian interference in the 2016 election, he fervently defends Tulsi, Assange and Greenwald at every opportunity.

Those are not the positions of an actual progressive lefty. He's an obvious troll. 

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49 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The absolute worst case scenario is for the left to get split.  B_T is actively working to ensure that scenario.  Fuck him.  He's the enemy of the left.  This is a fact.

I guess if you consider DNC Democrats "the left", then I proudly confess to being a wrecker of that particular coalition. Centrists who call themselves progressive can eat entire buckets of dicks.

53 minutes ago, suddenly shaggy said:

That is his point. BT has a long history of being an insanely "liberal" poster, far from the normal left posters on here. He's antagonistic while doing so and has a long history of making misleading posts, while adding very little original content.

I'm pretty sure I'm basically the only person here who has even tried to start policy-focused threads in a sea of "HEY WHO DO YOU THINK THE VP IS GOING TO BE!?" bullshit, but go off king.

Real leftists are known for being friendly and agreeable. lol

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However, he minimizes the Mueller investigation, he minimizes Russian interference in the 2016 election, he fervently defends Tulsi, Assange and Greenwald at every opportunity.

Mueller:

Yes, I minimize that Republican cop's bullshit investigation for many obvious reasons. It went nowhere and was destined to go nowhere outside the fevered minds of Twitter grifters and TV grifters. It led to jack shit nothing except maybe (hopefully) jailing some absolute scum bit players. A Republican cop was never going to try to find anything actionable and was never going to report anything actionable.

That bullshit investigation allowed the Democrats to do fucking NOTHING for two years about the endless other crimes of our shitty game show host president.

Russian interference in 2016:

- Some troll farms
- Facebook groups and ads
- DNC e-mail leak

What else am I missing? You guys are vague when talking about this, let's get specific.

Tulsi:

She's a bad Dem that I don't like. She's not a fucking Russian agent or asset. Alex Jones bullshit for libs.

Assange:

He sucks but many of his leaks have been wonderful journalism.

Greenwald:

He's annoying personally but he's a more committed and accomplished anti-fascist than all of us here combined multiplied by 10,000.

Russia:

A country with an economy smaller than California's run by a thug oligarchy.

1 hour ago, triplehorn said:

- You're obviously unaware of testimony/evidence in the ongoing Roger Stone trial.

Be specific.

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-You don't have a problem with private data being stolen by foreign powers then being publicly welcomed and knowingly used to damage a political opponent. 

I am 100% cool with pertinent information being exposed to the masses. I don't care if the source is a bad person. This is basic journalism.

What should be done? Run a morality check on a source and keep the information secret if the source fails the test? lol fucking morons

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19 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I guess if you consider DNC Democrats "the left", then I proudly confess to being a wrecker of that particular coalition. Centrists who call themselves progressive can eat entire buckets of dicks.

Fuck you.  You are quite literally the enemy.  You have the strategic and tactical insight of a toddler.  You ARE the problem, you stooge.  Nobody will align with you, ever, and you'll stand there watching the Republic burn while chanting "I told you so" all the while not understanding it's your fault.

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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Fuck you.  You are quite literally the enemy.  You have the strategic and tactical insight of a toddler.  You ARE the problem, you stooge.  Nobody will align with you, ever, and you'll stand there watching the Republic burn while chanting "I told you so" all the while not understanding it's your fault.

This is a very high level of angry online and I admire you for expressing it, sir.

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4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

At least I care about our country.  You?  Not so much.  I stand by everything I said.  You are the problem.  Explain otherwise.

You haven't articulated anything for me to counter.

You, a poster on a web forum with like a dozen posters paying attention, are super fucking mad at some of the things I post. How does this translate to me dividing the left? Please tell me the mechanism so I can explain why it doesn't make sense.

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Let me expound:  tactically speaking, B_T, what is the short term goal?  Please be specific.

To posting here? Zero tactics because posting here doesn't matter.

I like posting here because basically everyone disagrees with me (either ideologically or conversationally) and I like to challenge and be challenged.

I think many of you don't actually ever do anything politically other than post here, so you confuse posting for activism.

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28 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

To posting here? Zero tactics because posting here doesn't matter.

I like posting here because basically everyone disagrees with me (either ideologically or conversationally) and I like to challenge and be challenged.

I think many of you don't actually ever do anything politically other than post here, so you confuse posting for activism.

Lame.

As you see it, what is the main goal in the 2020 election?

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Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Lame.

How are my posts in this forum "dividing the left"? Please answer this question.

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As you see it, what is the main goal in the 2020 election?

To take both the political power and money out of the hands of the elite wealth class and put it in the hands of the masses.

To ensure healthcare to every single person in America regardless of ability to pay.

To save the habitability of our planet from the looming climate crisis.

You?

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Just now, bad_teammate said:

How are my posts in this forum "dividing the left"? Please answer this question.

You are actively campaigning against the obvious goal of the left.

 

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To take both the political power and money out of the hands of the elite wealth class and put it in the hands of the masses.

To ensure healthcare to every single person in America regardless of ability to pay.

To save the habitability of our planet from the looming climate crisis.

You?

Get Donald Trump out of the White House.

You see, this is the difference between tactics and strategy.  You fail to understand that if we lose the battle, we lose the war.  I use the term "we" in a generous manner, because you are not aligned with me any more tha EMAW, Onboard or any of the other Trumpkins.  I am merely trying to allow for the tiny chance that you give a shit about our country (but you don't).

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

You are actively campaigning against the obvious goal of the left.

OK how does this actually work? How do my posts here translate into action and consequence in the real world?

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Get Donald Trump out of the White House.

If your only goal is getting Trump out of the White House, why are you paying attention to any of this shit? Just wait for the Dem candidate to emerge from the convention and then support him or her.

And how am I trying to get Trump re-elected when I support, not just on here but actually in real life with time and money, the candidate best suited to defeating him in the general election?

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You see, this is the difference between tactics and strategy.  You fail to understand that if we lose the battle, we lose the war.

How did we get Donald Trump? Please answer this question.

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2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

OK how does this actually work? How do my posts here translate into action and consequence in the real world?

Perhaps I was naive in my expectation that your perspective as voiced here actually translates to your perspective and passion in the real world.  My bad, you're just a blowhard.  

 

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If your only goal is getting Trump out of the White House, why are you paying attention to any of this shit? Just wait for the Dem candidate to emerge from the convention and then support him or her.

Well, that's pretty fucking stupid, and if I have to explain why, then you're even more disabled than I suspected.

 

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And how am I trying to get Trump re-elected when I support, not just on here but actually in real life with time and money, the candidate best suited to defeating him in the general election?

Supporting a candidate is one thing.  Actively campaigning against the Democratic opposition is another thing entirely.  You just aren't smart enough to see the difference.

 

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How did we get Donald Trump? Please answer this question.

60M people voted for him.  

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10 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Perhaps I was naive in my expectation that your perspective as voiced here actually translates to your perspective and passion in the real world

jimmy, please tell me what your political activity in the real world is.

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Supporting a candidate is one thing.  Actively campaigning against the Democratic opposition is another thing entirely. 

What do you think a primary is?

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Well, that's pretty fucking stupid, and if I have to explain why, then you're even more disabled than I suspected.

It's not that you have to, it's that you'd be unable to if you tried.

Let's say Bernie doesn't win, haven't YOU been very divisive by attacking me, a Bernie supporter? What if your rage-posting here inspires me to not vote for the candidate who wins the primary?

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60M people voted for him. 

Trenchant insight.

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*me realizing I have the power to destroy candidates*

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jimmy, a primary is a series of votes that help a party determine its ultimate general election candidate. In the course of that primary, candidates make arguments as to why their vision for America is the best and also argue about their ability to pursue that vision.

You can only vote for one person and only one person can win, so everyone who plans to vote needs to narrow their choices, eventually, to one.

In the course of determining who to vote for, voters need to examine each candidate and, in many cases, discuss what they see.

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BT is not a right wing shill.

 

But he is an entrenched ideologue that would rather everyone who doesn’t pass his personal purity test fail.

 

He would prefer it all burn down if he doesn’t get his personal “perfect” choice. Perfect is the enemy of good and all that jazz.

 

He’s like a toddler with a blowtorch.

 

Burn it all down if I don’t get my way.

 

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On 11/8/2019 at 1:22 PM, bad_teammate said:

Name the speakers :

1 - “We can affirm our values as a country and have immigration systems that support our economy, that grow our country, and that make sure that we stay secure and strong.”

etc. etc. etc.

This is a fun game.  Name these speakers:

1. “The Rio Grande does not separate two nations, it joins two peoples. Mexico and the United States have a shared history, and a common future. And it is along this border where we will either fail or succeed in addressing the education, health care and transportation needs of our two peoples.”

2. “[Mexico's President's] vision for an open border is a vision I embrace, as long as we demonstrate the will to address the obstacles to it.”

3.  I urged legislators to pass a telemedicine pilot program that will enable, through technology, a sick border resident of limited financial means to receive care from a specialist hundreds of miles away. But the effort to combat disease and illness requires greater cooperative efforts between our two nations….. Legislation authored by border legislators Pat Haggerty and Eddie Lucio establishes an important study that will look at the feasibility of bi-national health insurance. This study recognizes that the Mexican and U.S. sides of the border compose one region, and we must address health care problems throughout that region. That’s why I am also excited that Texas Secretary of State Henry Cuellar is working on an initiative that could extend the benefits of telemedicine to individuals living on the Mexican side of the border.  

4. As a compassionate state, we know that for our children to succeed, they must not only be healthy, but educated. The future leaders of our two nations are learning their fractions and their ABC’s in classrooms all along this border. Immigrants from around the world are being taught in Texas classrooms, and our history is rich with examples of new citizens who have made great contributions. We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.”

Spoiler

1. Rick Fuckin' Perry

2. Rick Fuckin' Perry

3. Rick Fuckin' Perry

4. Rick Fuckin' Perry

 

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21 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Best member of the squad.
 

 

Love love love Ilhan

Great statement and hopefully Bernie follows suit. I’m sure Warren and every other candidate outside of Tulsi supports the coup. This tweet about sums up my thoughts regarding today’s events. 
 

https://www.twitter.com/HillaryFan420/status/1193674075098537984

 

 

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Arguing with people online = burning it all down
I guess I should actually be pretty flattered by how powerful you guys think my words are on this small subforum.


No one said you had any power, silly.

I was just describing your board persona.

I’m disappointed that someone so well versed in hyperbole and hysteria is unable to recognize it when it’s used in retaliation.
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9 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

BT is not a right wing shill.

 

But he is an entrenched ideologue that would rather everyone who doesn’t pass his personal purity test fail.

 

He would prefer it all burn down if he doesn’t get his personal “perfect” choice. Perfect is the enemy of good and all that jazz.

 

He’s like a toddler with a blowtorch.

 

Burn it all down if I don’t get my way.

 

Except his blowtorch is posting here.  The billionaires need not fret.  

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