Jake Smith Fumble/Brewer Recovery

[GreenspointTexas 9568]

Just re-watched the game (was at the game last night, so couldnt see it as well). Can someone please explain to me how in the ever living fuck the officials ruled the Jake Smith fumble a recovery by the KU defense? 
 

what am I missing? I thought it was easily the worst call ive seen in a few years

[Yesh 904]

The only explanation I could see was that the KU guy got to the ball first and had a hand on it, then Brewer got there and grabbed it and twisted away but the KU defender still had his hand on the ball, so they ruled he had possession before Brewer.

[texifornia 56561]

Yeah we got boned on that one, and the KU catch right after was the definition of a 50/50 call. Shit happens.

[Deej 76585]

Have you not seen Big 12 refs before?

[MonkeyDoughnut 10150]

I could see it either way, was confused though as it appeared the ref tapped Brewer on the back as if indicating to the other refs that this was the guy who recovered

[Helobious 9483]

KU guy had it, Brewer wrestled it away, then KU wrestled it back after the fact. Probably should've been Texas ball, but KU did end up with it last. I've always thought they should award it to whatever team can emerge from the pile and hand the ball to the ref. Would be brutal a lot of the time but it would take all the guesswork out. 

Worth noting that Smith get fucking popped on that play. Ball security could've been better but there wasn't a whole lot else he could do there. You're not in Arizona private school ball anymore son. 

Edited October 20, 2019 by Helobious

[ClubWhatever 12087]

I wrote a sternly worded letter to Bill Bigsly

[Patricio Swayze 17058]

Have you not seen Big 12 refs before?

Essentially this. If you took every single big 12 ref and combined their brain power, it would equal exactly 17 aggy. And that is why they didn’t overturn the call. Also see the call they made in the tech vs Baylor game for further proof.

[Goodman 3273]

46 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

I could see it either way, was confused though as it appeared the ref tapped Brewer on the back as if indicating to the other refs that this was the guy who recovered

 

21 minutes ago, Helobious said:

KU guy had it, Brewer wrestled it away, then KU wrestled it back after the fact. Probably should've been Texas ball, but KU did end up with it last. I've always thought they should award it to whatever team can emerge from the pile and hand the ball to the ref. Would be brutal a lot of the time but it would take all the guesswork out. 

Worth noting that Smith get fucking popped on that play. Ball security could've been better but there wasn't a whole lot else he could do there. You're not in Arizona private school ball anymore son. 

These are both wrong. Ku guy got a hand on it when Brewer took it into possession. A ref came in from ku sideline e yelling “white ball” And somehow they do not overturn it.

[GreenspointTexas 9568]

48 minutes ago, Goodman said:

 

These are both wrong. Ku guy got a hand on it when Brewer took it into possession. A ref came in from ku sideline e yelling “white ball” And somehow they do not overturn it.

This is what i saw

[wood 11186]

^Este.

[Jersey Man10 3508]

Jesus it's like blowing the play dead immediately after hurts fumbled.

[hookem48 4634]

Smith looked like he saw a freight train coming at him.

[DixonHur 11236]

Whatever the case, Smith needs to work on his ball security if he wants to stay on the field.

[Texasrocks 2125]

The replay was weird - I couldn't see the ball at all. They weren't going to overturn that no matter what the original call was.

[dcar00 14036]

2 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

This is what i saw

exactly.  the KU guy never had, even remotely, full control of the ball.  Brewer took it, had full control, and then was down by contact. the big 12 booth review refs are horrible.  no reviews on the helmet to helmets in the OU game.

[tantric superman 4667]

I just figured some KU kansas city faggit fingered Brewers anus and that made him let go of the ball.

Wait, that's Missouri, isn't it?

[CfRhTxStBobcats 600]

7 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

I just figured some KU kansas city faggit fingered Brewers anus and that made him let go of the ball.

Wait, that's Missouri, isn't it?

It's both. Most of which is on the Missouri side if I remember my geography correctly.

[texifornia 56561]

2 hours ago, hookem48 said:

Smith looked like he saw a freight train coming at him.

Credit to Lee, the KU safety, he put all of his force exactly on the ball. Hell of a tackle.

[El Squared 1793]

B12 has an agenda :

1. Promote the team with best record, hence OU and Baylor (last week vs Tech)

2. Screw Texas whenever possible

[fattyflattie 4636]

1 hour ago, DixonHur said:

Whatever the case, Smith needs to work on his ball security if he wants to stay on the field.

This. But he looks like he’ll be a damn good one if the can get it under control. You can tell he wants the big play, but security is lackluster so far. 

[futureman 22419]

5 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Credit to Lee, the KU safety, he put all of his force exactly on the ball. Hell of a tackle.

I mean, technically it was an illegal tackle, but hell of a tackle nonetheless. 

[PsychMike 1539]

10 minutes ago, CfRhTxStBobcats said:

It's both. Most of which is on the Missouri side if I remember my gayography correctly.

FIFY, and I believe you're correct.

[Fastbreak 3959]

3 hours ago, DixonHur said:

Whatever the case, Smith needs to work on his ball security if he wants to stay on the field.

Even the best can fumble when the helmet his the ball.

[campcrunk 2350]

Hate to quote Lane Kiffin, but I feel like it applies to Big XII refs more than just about any other conference (although it seems like the Pac-12 guys seems like they're close):

[ImissWallyPryor 9045]

3 hours ago, Texasrocks said:

The replay was weird - I couldn't see the ball at all. They weren't going to overturn that no matter what the original call was.

The best view was obscured by a player moving through the line of sight at exactly the wrong time. A ref (?) blocked the view from another angle. Frustrating as hell because you could tell Brewer was securing it.