2019-2020 PGA Tour

[Jive Turkey 13,056]

tournament of the year.

[ztejas 44,346]

I'm going to guess there has never been a 40 footer to force a playoff followed by a 60 footer to win it on the first hole. 

[Jive Turkey 13,056]

2 hours ago, ztejas said:

I'm going to guess there has never been a 40 footer to force a playoff followed by a 60 footer to win it on the first hole. 

not that i can remember.  and on a scale of 1 to 10, each putt was at least an 8.5.

[TonyTexas 10,835]

25 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

not that i can remember.  and on a scale of 1 to 10, each putt was at least an 8.5.

I’d like to see your definition of a 10. 

[conVINCEd 21,478]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

I’d like to see your definition of a 10. 

 

[Deej 78,100]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

I’d like to see your definition of a 10. 

 

[Hate 20,322]

Thank god for golf as we head into the great unknown of fall sports. The Tour Championship, US open, and The Masters all yet to come?? As strange as it seems, I don’t know that I’ve ever been as excited about golf as now.

[Steamboat1874 4,439]

9 hours ago, Deej said:

 

Nowhere near a 10.

[Wally Fairway 5,686]

1 hour ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Nowhere near a 10.

She is a 1.0 but tells everyone it's a 10

[smwhorn 486]

Rory's a dad . . . . 

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/rory-mcilroy-announces-birth-first-child

[ztejas 44,346]

6 minutes ago, smwhorn said:

Rory's a dad . . . . 

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/rory-mcilroy-announces-birth-first-child

Look out. About to play with that dad energy.

[Wally Fairway 5,686]

I'll go on the record and state that I don't like what they've done with the Tour Championship; this handicap thing is crap if you ask me. I'd rather they use total score over the three events, but I know that they feel people are to simple to understand someone can win this event and a different player wins the season long pot.

Here are some example of why I don't like it:
Rory has to beat DJ by 8 strokes to win it (and other players by fewer strokes)
Tony Finau has to beat 4 players by more than 3 strokes to win
Last weeks playoff would never have happened with this weeks scoring, and that was an exciting finish...twice.

Winning this event is like having to win both the low gross and low net at your club.

Rant over - I think I'll root for JT or Morikawa

[ztejas 44,346]

2 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

I'll go on the record and state that I don't like what they've done with the Tour Championship; this handicap thing is crap if you ask me.

Yeah - it doesn't really affect who wins the FedEx cup, but it does affect who wins this "tournament". Seems like there should be an asterisk for any tourney where guys aren't starting on equal playing fields.

 

[Texas St. Armadillos 1,388]

The problem with the "playoffs" is everyone gets in it.  Because of that, there is more interest from the Tour/players on protecting those that played well throughout the season.  Initially, I was skeptical on the handicapping idea, but it has grown on me.  Before, you could realistically have a player win the FedEx Cup and have not won a single tournament all year.  This format eliminates that possibility.  Less players actually qualifying for the "playoffs" would allow for more fluidity in these events.

[ztejas 44,346]

9 minutes ago, Texas St. Armadillos said:

Before, you could realistically have a player win the FedEx Cup and have not won a single tournament all year.  This format eliminates that possibility. 

Yeah but it's not really winning when you start ahead of a bunch of guys. It's like winning the net event vs the gross event like Wally said.

[Texas St. Armadillos 1,388]

7 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Yeah but it's not really winning when you start ahead of a bunch of guys. It's like winning the net event vs the gross event like Wally said.

Same could be said for a match play or Stableford event.  The format is established ahead of time, so the result should be recognized as such.

 

And I completely understand your point.  I try and think of it as like a Champions League soccer match that is played over multiple days.  The results from the initial match carry over to the next one.  Could they improve the playoffs?  No doubt.  We are in agreement there.

Edited September 4, 2020 by Texas St. Armadillos

[Wally Fairway 5,686]

46 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Yeah - it doesn't really affect who wins the FedEx cup, but it does affect who wins this "tournament". Seems like there should be an asterisk for any tourney where guys aren't starting on equal playing fields.

OWGR are based on scores - so points are awarded disregarding the starting handicaps, and all the fantasy games I've seen do the same.
 

[ztejas 44,346]

Just now, Wally Fairway said:

OWGR are based on scores - so points are awarded disregarding the starting handicaps, and all the fantasy games I've seen do the same.
 

That's interesting. Still, I'm talking about the "professional wins" section on anyone's wiki.

But, a FedEx cup is just as big as any old tour win so there's that I guess.

[Wally Fairway 5,686]

Just now, ztejas said:

That's interesting. Still, I'm talking about the "professional wins" section on anyone's wiki.

But, a FedEx cup is just as big as any old tour win so there's that I guess.

Oh I agree - a win has some swag that goes with it, entry to the TOC, a 2 year exemption, entry to the Majors (though without looking I'd guess they are all in the top 50), 
I took a quick glance - 10 of the players at East Lake have not won a tourney this season.

[ztejas 44,346]

5 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

entry to the Majors (though without looking I'd guess they are all in the top 50), 

Everyone that plays at East Lake gets a 1 year* exemption for every major I beleive.

They also all qualify for ToC.

Edited September 4, 2020 by ztejas
fixed

[Jive Turkey 13,056]

Mackenzie Hughes is ranked 65 in the world.  making that 5 footer for par at Olympia Fields got him to East Lake and into all of the majors next year.  that's monstrous, given how few majors he's ever played in.

Tournament	2013	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018
Masters Tournament					CUT
U.S. Open	CUT					CUT
The Open Championship
PGA Championship					CUT

Tournament	2019	2020
Masters Tournament
PGA Championship		T58
U.S. Open
The Open Championship		NT

 

[ztejas 44,346]

On 9/3/2020 at 11:17 AM, ztejas said:

Look out. About to play with that dad energy.

Yep.

 

[Revolution512 1,519]

DJ and Rahm should be fun

[4th&Five 42,082]

 

[ztejas 44,346]

I was wondering how he bogeyed 18.

 

[TonyTexas 10,835]

Paging @Dr. Beeper

[TonyTexas 10,835]

Just now, Dr. Beeper said:

Why?

Wanted you to discuss DJ’s goodness some more

[ztejas 44,346]

DJ is having a phenomenal run right now. We'll see if he can pick up one of these next majors. Should be a massive favorite at the US Open - he's never been good at Augusta, though. 

[4th&Five 42,082]

He finished a shot behind Tiger last year. 

[ztejas 44,346]

6 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

He finished a shot behind Tiger last year. 

Right you are. Had forgot that.

He's actually been pretty good the past 5 or so years - but didn't do anything before that.

[4th&Five 42,082]

I’d pick him as long as he rents a house without stairs. 

[ztejas 44,346]

12 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I’d pick him as long as he rents a house without stairs. 

Yeah was just thinking about betting odds. Should be tighter for the Masters. 

Obviously there's some golf to be played until then, too.

[StruggleBus 3,922]

Fuck this stupid ass handicapped tournament. Fuck the fedex cup. This would be interesting tomorrow without the regarded modified scoring.

Instead we get an exhibition.

[conVINCEd 21,478]

22 minutes ago, StruggleBus said:

Fuck this stupid ass handicapped tournament. Fuck the fedex cup. This would be interesting tomorrow without the regarded modified scoring.

Instead we get an exhibition.

It’s a problem without a good solution. 

[StruggleBus 3,922]

1 minute ago, conVINCEd said:

It’s a problem without a good solution. 

The problem is the PGA wanting the fedex cup to be a big deal. But it isn’t. It never has been and never will be. 

[ztejas 44,346]

DJ is making tournaments compelling to watch in a way that we haven't really seen since Tiger. Maybe a handful of Rory tournaments I guess.

[4th&Five 42,082]

He’s leaking a little oil right now. JT within 3. 

[ztejas 44,346]

21 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

$15MM is relevant. This will, if it hasn’t already, surpassed The Players or Memorial in terms of non-major prestige. 

No. Tiger was a cultural phenomenon as a black golfer that had a ton of charisma and literally dominated competition for about 8-10 years. DJ can be dominant, and is the most talented guy out there, but he’s not charismatic and the talent on tour has so much parity it’s never been this deep. 

Okay. I'm saying you tune in to see how low he can go. You already know he's winning (although he's taken a couple steps back here over the last few holes). They were just saying that this is the first time someone has had 4 straight 54-hole leads since Tiger.

I'm aware that he isn't black and doesn't have 15 majors. 

[ztejas 44,346]

2 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

I get what you’re saying but just don’t agree. He’s not dominating this tournament. He’s playing better. And if he was a la Tiger, I probably wouldn’t watch. With Tiger, I’d watch because we were watching something superhuman. 

Just giving my personal opinion. But people like to watch golf for very different reasons. For me, he's playing at such an elite level right now that I can't not tune in. I haven't felt that way since Tiger. Like I said, maybe Rory a few times but I will watch Rory regardless so not really.

[TonyTexas 10,835]

1 hour ago, Dr. Beeper said:

$15MM is relevant. This will, if it hasn’t already, surpassed The Players or Memorial in terms of non-major prestige. 

No. Tiger was a cultural phenomenon as a black golfer that had a ton of charisma and literally dominated competition for about 8-10 years. DJ can be dominant, and is the most talented guy out there, but he’s not charismatic and the talent on tour has so much parity it’s never been this deep. 

That actually makes him more impressive not less. 

On a related topic. Elin or Paulina?

Edited September 7, 2020 by TonyTexas

[VirginiaLonghorn 4,933]

Calling Mr Koepka.  Mr Koepka, please pick up the courtesy phone.  Mr Johnson would like a word or two ...

”Fuck off!”

[Grade of D as in David 13,256]

DJ wins 15M and gets to go home to this.

[VirginiaLonghorn 4,933]

37 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

DJ wins 15M and gets to go home to this.

How can someone lead that miserable of a life? 🤔

[Wally Fairway 5,686]

FWIW - here are the tournament scores, gross without handicap - and OWGR points

TOUR Championship

6TH SEPTEMBER 2020 - Strength of Field 465

Pos	Ctry	Name	R1	R2	R3	R4	Agg	Ranking Points
1		Xander Schauffele	67	65	67	66	265	58
2		Scottie Scheffler	71	66	66	65	268	34.8
T3		Dustin Johnson	67	70	64	68	269	20.3
T3		Justin Thomas	66	71	66	66	269	20.3
5		Tyrrell Hatton	67	66	71	66	270	13.92
6		Jon Rahm	65	74	66	66	271	11.6
T7		Sebastian J Munoz	71	65	70	66	272	8.816
T7		Collin Morikawa	71	65	67	69	272	8.816
T7		Patrick Reed	71	66	70	65	272	8.816
T7		Mackenzie Hughes	70	69	66	67	272	8.816
T7		Rory McIlroy	64	71	70	67	272	8.816
12		Sungjae Im	68	64	72	70	274	6.96
13		Harris English	70	69	69	67	275	6.38
T14		Tony Finau	68	71	66	71	276	5.51333
T14		Viktor Hovland	69	69	68	70	276	5.51333
T14		Abraham Ancer	64	71	69	72	276	5.51333
T17		Daniel Berger	69	71	64	73	277	4.5
T17		Hideki Matsuyama	70	70	67	70	277	4.5
T17		Lanto Griffin	67	69	69	72	277	4.5
T17		Webb Simpson	70	71	68	68	277	4.5
21		Brendon Todd	67	68	70	74	279	3.78
T22		Kevin Kisner	72	68	69	71	280	3.36
T22		Cameron Smith	68	68	73	71	280	3.36
T22		Cameron Champ	68	71	70	71	280	3.36
T25		Bryson DeChambeau	72	69	69	71	281	3.08
T25		Ryan Palmer	72	72	70	67	281	3.08
27		Kevin Na	69	70	71	72	282	2.9
T28		Marc Leishman	66	75	73	69	283	2.72
T28		Joaquin Niemann	72	72	67	72	283	2.72
30		Billy Horschel	70	73	71	70	284	2.62

[4th&Five 42,082]

DJ made more money in the last month than David Duval made his entire career. 

[VirginiaLonghorn 4,933]

16 hours ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

Calling Mr Koepka.  Mr Koepka, please pick up the courtesy phone.  Mr Johnson would like a word or two ...

”Fuck off!”

 

14 hours ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Ha, I think BK will be just fine. 

Don't doubt that for a minute.  But, it doesn't make him any less of a dickhead.

[Hate 20,322]

BK is just a really unlikable player, which is a shame because he seems to be the closest of all of the young players to have Tiger’s laser focus in the majors. If he stays healthy, he may be the only one I could see possibly making it into double digits for majors. None of that makes him likable though or someone that I would actually cheer for on a Sunday afternoon of a major.

[sidis 10,021]

it is a bit funny how dominant dj has become since brooks ran his mouth.

i just want to know where the fuck this version of dj was when i flew across the world to watch him kick some eurotrash ass in ryder cup.  instead, i got an absolute dumpster fire who repeatedly shit the bed.  i guess he and brooks really were fighting the whole time.

[Steel Shank 9,606]

Is everybody super excited about this weekend's Safeway Open?

[Mileslong 4,816]

I was under the understanding that DeChamp was the best player in the world and has revolutionized the game. He isn’t going on any dominant streak while he still uses a 37.5” lob wedge...