Notebook won't power up. Liquid spill.

[ROFL BOX 6647]

Asshats @ $tarfucks gave me a cup / lid combo that wasn't sealed well.
 
Making adjustments while seated @ my table & the whole thing imploded with the end result of liquid all over my phone (since recovered) & DeLL Inspiron E7270.
 
After cleanup, the notebook won't power on (has been +1 hour now).
 
Am I totally fucked here?
 
Do I need to have the HD extracted for a data save? My last external HD backup was around 3 weeks ago & I was actually planning to do that today.
 
What are my options? I assume the liquid got somewhere inside & is creating a short with the power circuitry?
 
It even appears to me that the liquid got into the grille underneath, but then maybe that was coming out as liquid passed through from the keys & top of the computer.
 
 
HALP.





 
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[crash_davis 23096]

me thinks your motherboard got fried. i would let it set a few days to fully dry before powering on again. also is a good idea to disconnect the battery to the motherboard, but it may already be too late.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21867]

I would put it in the oven for an hour or two

[crash_davis 23096]

Just now, NeverMarryAStripper said:

I would put it in the oven for an hour or two

don't forget the liquid smoke.

[ChickenSandwich 9824]

soak it in Denim 

[SDG 3319]

If it’s SSD can’t you pull your hard drive and recover your data?  Those things are typically sealed.  

[Telegraph_it 3357]

That keyboard looks nasty. 

[Quagmire 2147]

Let it sit for awhile , may come back to life after a few days

[elfenix 34221]

39 minutes ago, SDG said:

If it’s SSD can’t you pull your hard drive and recover your data?  Those things are typically sealed.  

no, no they're not.

 

 

 

unscrew the panels and clean everything out.  use high proof rubbing alcohol and cotton swabs. 

[UTPhil2006 3801]

Make a nice rice computer casserole before you put it in the oven

[shakahorn 1645]

What exactly is the liquid?  If it's black coffee, you have a shot at just letting it air dry, maybe throw it under a fan for a few hours and powering it back up.  And even if it's not an ssd, you have a pretty good shot of taking out the disk and saving the data on it.

If it's something with all kinds of sugar and milk and soy cream or whatever, your odds decrease of saving the whole computer.  If this is the case, I  would open it up right away and take out the drive and try and save that.  And I wouldn't 'fess up here to the fact that you like girly drinks at Starbucks.

[Dahobbs 17521]

Was it on when the coffee spilled? If so, you're probably fucked already. And even if it wasn't on, you trying to turn it on after the spill would have fucked it up. I can almost guarantee the motherboard is fried. You can try disconnecting the battery and letting it sit for a day or two. But I don't think it will help. Best you can do is recover some components (e.g., hard-drive). Unless you specifically bought spill insurance (which Dell does sell if I recall correctly), it will almost certainly would cost more to repair it than buying a new one. So, buy a new one.  

Edited October 25, 2019 by Dahobbs

[NeverMarryAStripper 21867]

Whatever you do, you should go back to that Starbucks and cause a ruckus that ends with you throwing the laptop at some employee's head.  Just make sure that someone takes a video and posts it on the internet.  It will make a nice contrast to the Waffle House/McDonald's videos.

[ROFL BOX 6647]

I would put it in the oven for an hour or two

Done.

 

Now what?

 

& Don't tell me to turn the oven on cuz I ain't that stoopid.

 

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[ROFL BOX 6647]

Make a nice rice computer casserole before you put it in the oven

So it will attract Asians to come & fix my computer? I like the way you think.

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[ROFL BOX 6647]

What exactly is the liquid?  If it's black coffee, you have a shot at just letting it air dry, maybe throw it under a fan for a few hours and powering it back up.  And even if it's not an ssd, you have a pretty good shot of taking out the disk and saving the data on it.
If it's something with all kinds of sugar and milk and soy cream or whatever, your odds decrease of saving the whole computer.  If this is the case, I  would open it up right away and take out the drive and try and save that.  And I wouldn't 'fess up here to the fact that you like girly drinks at Starbucks.

[Not so hot] hot chocolate.

I come here for the wi-fi & am not a coffee drinker.

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[ROFL BOX 6647]

Was it on when the coffee spilled? If so, you're probably fucked already. And even if it wasn't on, you trying to turn it on after the spill would have fucked it up. I can almost guarantee the motherboard is fried. You can try disconnecting the battery and letting it sit for a day or two. But I don't think it will help. Best you can do is recover some components (e.g., hard-drive). Unless you specifically bought spill insurance (which Dell does sell if I recall correctly), it will almost certainly would cost more to repair it than buying a new one. So, buy a new one.  

No spill ins. purchased.

Will try to open it up later once home; that's obv. been a few hours behind me & 2 or 3 ahead of now.

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[elfenix 34221]

remove the drive, clean it carefully with rubbing alcohol, and see if you can read it from another computer.  looks like the SSD is nvme (review says pcie, though a lot of people don't know that M.2 can be either SATA or NVME/pcie, but the drive can only be one or the other).  so you'd need a nvme to usb adapter.  https://smile.amazon.com/Sabrent-EC-NVME-Aluminum-Enclosure-Nvme/dp/B07K4TZQ7D

 

 

edit: when you pull the SSD out of the slot, examine the connector.  if it's M-keyed it's nvme/pcie and needs the adapter i linked (or one like it).  otherwise it can use an m.2 sata to usb adapter (the images in this adapter explain the keying in the connector):

https://smile.amazon.com/M-2-External-Converter-Adapter-Enclosure/dp/B076DCNZM3

 

edit2: more on keying: https://www.atpinc.com/blog/what-is-m.2-M-B-BM-key-socket-3

Edited October 26, 2019 by elfenix

[ROFL BOX 6647]

Opened it up, here's what is going on inside.

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[elfenix 34221]

that looks proper fucked. 

SSD is crammed between the battery and the side of the housing.  looking at disassembly that's in the front left. 

 

edit: looking at this parts list they're all sporting sata logos :

https://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=category&id=140&subid=602&refine=hard+drive

Edited October 27, 2019 by elfenix

[RPM 26315]

3:00 in the microwave at 80% and you're gtg.

[ROFL BOX 6647]

3:00 in the microwave at 80% and you're gtg.

You talking about my notebook computer or my daughter's Guinea pig?

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[ROFL BOX 6647]

Cleaned up as best as possible (without the alcohol suggestion, so I dun F'd that up).

Won't power on.

Which one of those things is the HD?

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[RPM 26315]

14 minutes ago, ROFL BOX said:

You talking about my notebook computer or my daughter's Guinea pig?

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It's a universal formula adjusted for mass.

[elfenix 34221]

On 10/27/2019 at 2:55 AM, ROFL BOX said:

Which one of those things is the HD?
 

 

 

has a screw at one end (toward the front the laptop - top in this picture) that holds it down and a slot at the other end.

[Deej 76750]

Lid that wasn't fitted properly? Whatever you do, don't use a balm.

[ROFL BOX 6647]

 
 
has a screw at one end (toward the front the laptop - top in this picture) that holds it down and a slot at the other end.

Is that what they call a Solid State HD, i.e. no moving parts?

Ordered a new notebook from DeLL, would be nice if it showed tomorrow, thinking Friday @ the latest.

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[Dahobbs 17521]

6 hours ago, ROFL BOX said:

Is that what they call a Solid State HD, i.e. no moving parts?

Ordered a new notebook from DeLL, would be nice if it showed tomorrow, thinking Friday @ the latest.

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Yes. 

[elfenix 34221]

well, SSD.  there are products on the market called SSHD, which is a hard drive (spinning pile of rust) which also has an SSD-like cache built in. 

[Helobious 9456]

On 10/27/2019 at 12:06 AM, ROFL BOX said:

Opened it up, here's what is going on inside.

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Just put some butter on it, cause it’s already toast.

[ROFL BOX 6647]

New Inspiron arrived today.

Have not had an opportunity to turn it on yet, working in the field all day.

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[ROFL BOX 6647]

I give up, Stoogey - why did you give my OP a "Hate" reaction?

[elfenix 34221]

probably in reaction to you negging him back on october 23 in the parking douchebaggery thread

[Judge Roybeanbag 11819]

1 hour ago, elfenix said:

probably in reaction to you negging him back on october 23 in the parking douchebaggery thread

I figured it was for Starbuck’s, just out of principle.  

[williemackgarza 1826]

New Inspiron arrived today.

Have not had an opportunity to turn it on yet, working in the field all day.

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Mmhmm, “working” with a pic of the mexicans doing all the work.
I bet you “worked” your tail off

[ROFL BOX 6647]

There's a reason I'm the Contractor.

& Yes, I did assist on various parts but NO, I didn't get up into the trusses.

[NeverMarryAStripper 21867]

Gee thanks, I’m sure that after four years it should be pretty dried out.

[ROFL BOX 6647]

Nearly 5 years later, Cathy.

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5388]

Back in the old days, when electronics would get wet, we would take them apart then put them in a big bag full of rice for at least a couple of days. The rice would draw moisture away from the components, which would help clean goo and such better than just air drying. If you try and turn on a piece of electronics while its wet and it won't turn on, you've basically already killed your machine.

[ROFL BOX 6647]

1 hour ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

Back in the old days, when electronics would get wet, we would take them apart then put them in a big bag full of rice for at least a couple of days. The rice would draw moisture away from the components, which would help clean goo and such better than just air drying. If you try and turn on a piece of electronics while its wet and it won't turn on, you've basically already killed your machine.

 

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5388]

1 hour ago, ROFL BOX said:

 

 

My advice doesn't have an expiration date. Unless you think you'll never ever spill liquid on an electronic device again, then I'm sorry I burdened you with this horrible knowledge, it must be so tough for you to now know this.