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4 minutes ago, Murfdogg21 said:

I can’t wait to find out what fake health condition causes Urban to quit Texas after delivering at least one championship. 

Urban's got a legit cyst on his brain that causes debilitating migraines

He'd have to get paid heavy to even come, then we'd have to hope he hires a great staff. He'll have every option though, coaches would be lining up for the opportunity.

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At Ohio State 

The talent gap between Ohio State and Michigan is pretty big. The talent gap between Michigan and the rest of the B1G is also pretty big.

We recruit a little better than OU overall, but everyone in the conference can score in bunches. This is the same guy who has hired Tim Beck, Ed Warriner, and Steve Addazio to be OCs. He's also got the same issues with hiring his buddies and retaining them. Urban also runs that outdated offense. His recruiting is top notch though. 

I'm concerned that he'd be our Jimbo.

I have a suspicion that Urban would be a little more demanding with his assistants and players than Pee Wee. No Family Fridays if you play like dog shit.

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35 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

And yes, I'm several bourbons in but I can't stand how the commentators review the game and don't include the awful officiating.  Texas lost--straight up but officials gave TCU possessions.  

The shitty calls and no calls went both ways.

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4 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

LOL.  He does in fact have the highest winning percentage of any coach in history who coached at least 200 games, and is third behind Knute Rockne and Frank Leahy among coaches with at least 10 seasons.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/leaders/win-loss-pct-coach-career.html

Texas fans kill me.  “We can do better than the guy who won MNCs at Florida and Ohio State, recruits better than anyone, has the highest winning percentage ever, and only 2 years ago had a 1 loss Rose Bowl winning season.”

Also, the idea that he’s somehow too controversial is absurd.  He’s the fucking lead analyst for the Fox network.  If he were a PR nightmare like Paterno or Art Briles or something, you wouldn’t see him on your fucking TV every week.   He’s already passed that test.  

Many of our fans and administrators care more about virtue signaling than actual facts and you know, winning.

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27 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

As I said in another thread. Tomorrow. It won't do shit for this year, but recruiting is going to take a huge hit if Herman stays any longer. 

What' he going to sell?  Winning the Big 12?  Nope--can't get past TCU. 

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We see the same horseshit narrative with Saban. “He’s won a lot of championships, therefore he MUST be cheating”. Maybe, just maybe these guys are really good at their jobs. We were thumping our fucking chests about Charlie Strong’s core values until we realized he got that from Urban at Florida.

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And yes, I'm several bourbons in but I can't stand how the commentators review the game and don't include the awful officiating.  Texas lost--straight up but officials gave TCU possessions.  

Yep.  Officiating was some of the worst I have ever seen.  May have even cost us the game.  Still doesn’t change the fact that we are so bad that the officials were able to cost us the game.  This was not the 1985 Bears, or even TCUs best team in the last 5 years.  

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1 hour ago, Mdhorn said:

What' he going to sell?  Winning the Big 12?  Nope--can't get past TCU. 

Coaching Record

 
Year School G W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Bowl Notes
17 Yrs Overall 219 187 32 0 .854 16.11 3.00       12-3  
2 Yrs Bowling Green State 23 17 6 0 .739 3.64 -6.19       0-0  
2 Yrs Utah 24 22 2 0 .917 15.88 0.38       2-0  
6 Yrs Florida 80 65 15 0 .813 17.64 5.45       5-1  
7 Yrs Ohio State 92 83 9 0 .902 18.43 4.27       5-2
2001 Bowling Green State 11 8 3 0 .727 4.58 -4.42          
2002 Bowling Green State 12 9 3 0 .750 2.70 -7.96   20      
2003 Utah 12 10 2 0 .833 10.01 0.34   21 21 Liberty Bowl-W  
2004 Utah 12 12 0 0 1.000 21.76 0.43 20 4 4 Fiesta Bowl-W Co-coach with Kyle Whittingham for Fiesta Bowl
2005 Florida 12 9 3 0 .750 12.32 3.82 10 5 12 Outback Bowl-W  
2006 Florida 14 13 1 0 .929 19.66 6.95 7 1 1 BCS Championship-W  
2007 Florida 13 9 4 0 .692 18.06 6.83 6 3 13 Capital One Bowl-L  
2008 Florida 14 13 1 0 .929 25.37 5.59 5 1 1 BCS Championship-W  
2009 Florida 14 13 1 0 .929 21.15 5.43 1 1 3 Sugar Bowl-W  
2010 Florida 13 8 5 0 .615 9.30 4.07 4 4   Outback Bowl-W  
2012 Ohio State 12 12 0 0 1.000 13.81 0.89 18 3 3    
2013 Ohio State 14 12 2 0 .857 15.65 1.43 2 2 12 Orange Bowl-L  
2014 Ohio State 15 14 1 0 .933 20.44 5.17 5 1 1 Sugar Bowl-W, College Football Championship-W  
2015 Ohio State 13 12 1 0 .923 20.73 3.81 1 1 4 Fiesta Bowl-W  
2016 Ohio State 13 11 2 0 .846 18.82 6.59 6 2 6 Fiesta Bowl-L  
2017 Ohio State 14 12 2 0 .857 21.82 7.89 2 2 5 Cotton Bowl-W  
2018 Ohio State 11 10 1 0 .909 17.74 4.10 5 2 3 Rose Bowl-W  

 

This is what he's going to sell. He's a proven winner. 

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1 hour ago, 936horn said:

Many of our fans and administrators care more about virtue signaling than actual facts and you know, winning.

This is so fucking dumb. Saban and Bama were doing marches for BLM after George Floyd. They just recruit and coach up a hell of a lot better than Texas does. 

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1 hour ago, USNALonghorn said:

We see the same horseshit narrative with Saban. “He’s won a lot of championships, therefore he MUST be cheating”. Maybe, just maybe these guys are really good at their jobs. We were thumping our fucking chests about Charlie Strong’s core values until we realized he got that from Urban at Florida.

This is the mental shield Texas fans throw up to insulate themselves from the reality that other programs just have it better because they hit on their head coaching hires, recruit better than we do, and coach up and put talent better in the NFL than we do. They aren't just better than us, they are that way because they cheat. Same shit with Riley and OU. 

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  Some of you morons are still acting like Urban Meyer is not up to the standard. I don't think most of you even came up with that thought on your own. You mean our standard of hubris and laughable incompetence? He is this only coach out there that could immediately put an end to the humiliation. This program is teetering on no longer even being among the top tier. Ten years is a long time. The only question is if we would be fortunate enough for him to consider coming here.   

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Coaching Record

 
Year School G W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Bowl Notes
17 Yrs Overall 219 187 32 0 .854 16.11 3.00       12-3  
2 Yrs Bowling Green State 23 17 6 0 .739 3.64 -6.19       0-0  
2 Yrs Utah 24 22 2 0 .917 15.88 0.38       2-0  
6 Yrs Florida 80 65 15 0 .813 17.64 5.45       5-1  
7 Yrs Ohio State 92 83 9 0 .902 18.43 4.27       5-2
2001 Bowling Green State 11 8 3 0 .727 4.58 -4.42          
2002 Bowling Green State 12 9 3 0 .750 2.70 -7.96   20      
2003 Utah 12 10 2 0 .833 10.01 0.34   21 21 Liberty Bowl-W  
2004 Utah 12 12 0 0 1.000 21.76 0.43 20 4 4 Fiesta Bowl-W Co-coach with Kyle Whittingham for Fiesta Bowl
2005 Florida 12 9 3 0 .750 12.32 3.82 10 5 12 Outback Bowl-W  
2006 Florida 14 13 1 0 .929 19.66 6.95 7 1 1 BCS Championship-W  
2007 Florida 13 9 4 0 .692 18.06 6.83 6 3 13 Capital One Bowl-L  
2008 Florida 14 13 1 0 .929 25.37 5.59 5 1 1 BCS Championship-W  
2009 Florida 14 13 1 0 .929 21.15 5.43 1 1 3 Sugar Bowl-W  
2010 Florida 13 8 5 0 .615 9.30 4.07 4 4   Outback Bowl-W  
2012 Ohio State 12 12 0 0 1.000 13.81 0.89 18 3 3    
2013 Ohio State 14 12 2 0 .857 15.65 1.43 2 2 12 Orange Bowl-L  
2014 Ohio State 15 14 1 0 .933 20.44 5.17 5 1 1 Sugar Bowl-W, College Football Championship-W  
2015 Ohio State 13 12 1 0 .923 20.73 3.81 1 1 4 Fiesta Bowl-W  
2016 Ohio State 13 11 2 0 .846 18.82 6.59 6 2 6 Fiesta Bowl-L  
2017 Ohio State 14 12 2 0 .857 21.82 7.89 2 2 5 Cotton Bowl-W  
2018 Ohio State 11 10 1 0 .909 17.74 4.10 5 2 3 Rose Bowl-W  

 

This is what he's going to sell. He's a proven winner. 

4th, 2nd, 3rd with an 18-11 Big 12 record.  He's averaging 3rd in the Big 12 and is looking at that again.  Texas should be challenging OU for the conference and not 3rd.  He's lost to some crappy TCU teams.  

“It gets frustrating sometimes because Gary, to his credit and a ton of respect for him, doesn’t do a whole lot. What he does is he’s got his players to play really, really hard. He puts them in great position. They’re extremely fundamentally sound. You have this false sense of maybe some confidence because unlike other defenses you play where half the battle is figuring out where they’re going to be, lined up, blitzing from, and rushing from, and all that stuff — that battle is not one that’s waged a whole lot against Coach Patterson’s defenses. 

“The battle is, ‘Can we play more fundamentally sound than them? Can we play harder than them?’ There are going to be some schematic things that you want to take advantage of. It’s a matter of making those opportunities count and not having long foul balls when you schemed up a shot against a certain coverage.

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/college/big-12/texas-christian-university/article246081645.html


Herman didn't once again and Texas hasn't begun playing the better teams in the conference yet.  This was.the team that was supposed to make a run--they had experience everywhere.  What's the point of playing a complex offense if you miss the easy things--can't stay onside or makes catches?  I thought the defense was supposed to be pared down to basics but we have linebackers and safeties out of position leaving the middle of the field wide open and nobody sees it.   

To add, I think if Texas gets a good offensive line coach, they'll be a lot better.  But we've also been through three already and they all had their drawbacks.  I'd money whip Bill Bedenbaugh.  

 

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3 hours ago, 936horn said:

Many of our fans and administrators care more about virtue signaling than actual facts and you know, winning.

Tom Herman is the guy who did coke and went to strip clubs with his wife beater coaching friend. Let’s not pretend a priest is coaching us now. 

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1 hour ago, mdmost said:

This is so fucking dumb. Saban and Bama were doing marches for BLM after George Floyd. They just recruit and coach up a hell of a lot better than Texas does. 

I don’t mean that - to be clear I’m talking about the attitude that somehow Texas is above hiring someone like Urban Meyer. Like we have some sort of moral authority and Urban for some reason in his past doesn’t fit our “standard”

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Gotcha. I mean we're above hiring someone like Urban Meyer yet we'll hire coaches from programs we'd never allow into the Big 12. Our standards are a joke. We went for the best worst hire each time we had the chance. Charlie was the best option after Saban wasn't an option when we probably should've gone for James Franklin. We didn't even make it beyond a 2nd option to Herman because we were afraid to lose him to LSU. Think of the massive favor we did LSU. 

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3 hours ago, Zeus said:

I'd rather have the bums that took over town lake and downtown burn the whole 40 acres down then get Urban.

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Can we do them both at the same time. Why wait for #1 THEN move on to #2?

How about we get Urban then let the bums do what they want?

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Like I said in the other thread, if we hire Meyer, I will not lose one night’s sleep if some fans decide to cancel their tickets on principle. We can still win and be proud of our school. It’s almost like people aren’t aware that when teams come to our stadium and beat us they are laughing their asses off all the way home, not saying “Gee that Texas sure runs a clean program. I’m in awe of their fortitude.” Nope they are laughing. Their asses off. They need to fear us. Now most teams pencil us in as a maybe on the more schedule as a possible win for them. 

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Gotcha. I mean we're above hiring someone like Urban Meyer yet we'll hire coaches from programs we'd never allow into the Big 12. Our standards are a joke. We went for the best worst hire each time we had the chance. Charlie was the best option after Saban wasn't an option when we probably should've gone for James Franklin. We didn't even make it beyond a 2nd option to Herman because we were afraid to lose him to LSU. Thank of the massive favor we did LSU. 

Totally agree. It’s beyond frustrating

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1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

Like I said in the other thread, if we hire Meyer, I will not lose one night’s sleep if some fans decide to cancel their tickets on principle. We can still win and be proud of our school. It’s almost like people aren’t aware that when teams come to our stadium and beat us they are laughing their asses off all the way home, not saying “Gee that Texas sure runs a clean program. I’m in awe of their fortitude.” Nope they are laughing. Their asses off. They need to fear us. Now most teams pencil us in as a maybe on the more schedule as a possible win for them. 

Approximately 14 fans would cancel their tickets, after they see that recruiting bounce on day one.

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Like I said in the other thread, if we hire Meyer, I will not lose one night’s sleep if some fans decide to cancel their tickets on principle. We can still win and be proud of our school. It’s almost like people aren’t aware that when teams come to our stadium and beat us they are laughing their asses off all the way home, not saying “Gee that Texas sure runs a clean program. I’m in awe of their fortitude.” Nope they are laughing. Their asses off. They need to fear us. Now most teams pencil us in as a maybe on the more schedule as a possible win for them. 

No one touts a "clean program" more than the losers. Which is us right now. It is the only thing we can hang our hat on. "Well at least we are clean!". When you win, you let the other shit slide. Except Briles and Paterno shit. But committing NCAA violations or having players get in shit off the field? Who cares.

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People say that UT, as an institution, doesn't care about football enough to have a consistently elite program. 

I've mostly thought that this is bullshit. But I will say...if Alabama or Ohio St or OU or one of those schools had a program that has been this bad for 11 years, with a 4th-year coach who is this crappy, with Urban fucking Meyer sitting out there doing TV...what do you suppose they'd do? This would have been done last December.  

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Like I said in the other thread, if we hire Meyer, I will not lose one night’s sleep if some fans decide to cancel their tickets on principle. We can still win and be proud of our school. It’s almost like people aren’t aware that when teams come to our stadium and beat us they are laughing their asses off all the way home, not saying “Gee that Texas sure runs a clean program. I’m in awe of their fortitude.” Nope they are laughing. Their asses off. They need to fear us. Now most teams pencil us in as a maybe on the more schedule as a possible win for them. 

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Man did Colin Cowherd rip UT a new one today. I typically don’t agree with his takes but...

it was the right/wrong segment: said he was wrong about Herman being the best hire for Texas. Likes him. Blah blah blah...good recruiting on offense...good offensive mind BUT....

UT should not take four or five years to rebuild. We have the most money in the conference. Easiest and best recruiting with OU 2nd and TCU a close 3rd. No reason the defense should be this atrocious. That we should lose this many times to TCU with an NFL caliber senior quarterback. No excuses for why we are this bad except it is coaching. And Colin likes Herman so...

ITA! It shouldn’t take us four fucking years to rebuild. Period. Period. And at the end of four still look like we did Saturday. 

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Anyone doubting whether urban is the right option, tell me one coach (aside from saban and dabo who aren't moving) who you'd be more pissed to hear is taking over at ou? Or aggy? I can't think of a single coach I'd hate to see hired more at those schools, which tells you all you need to know about who we should be pursuing here.

If we don't, it's only a year or two at max before usc pulls the trigger and we all get to watch as he builds them back to a power program, which is what he'll do wherever he goes next.

Even if you argue he's past his coaching prime (and based on what, exactly?), the immediate recruiting jolt would help you rebuild for at least 2-3 years and set you up for the next guy.

It's time to stop fucking around and go all in on someone proven. We tried the up and comer route twice in a row and got burnt. Giving Herman four years was probably the right thing given the "cake" he was handed and some of the early obvious improvement, but unless we go undefeated the rest of the way you have to argue he had his chance and failed. Time to level up.

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Also had 1 undefeated season and 1 national championship with them. 

Yeah I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to keeping Tom as an assistant to Urbs at Texas lol.

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