Urban Meyer or bust

[WhatTheBuck 28775]

39 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

Fair enough.  It does seem that character came much more into play when Meyer recruited at Ohio State vs his days at Florida.  Evey year there were reports of recruits that Ohio State backed off of because of character issues while Meyer (and now Day) were at Ohio State.  Not surprisingly, many of those players ended up being problems at the university they ultimately chose.  I personally believe this was dictated by the university after the black eye Tressel put on the program.  Obviously, there was most likely increased scrutiny by the NCAA as well after Tressel.

Tressel handled punishment pretty well. Real criminals got tossed. And he took some chances on kids. A lot of coaches do. He got Troy Smith turned around and made him a Heisman winner. Ray Small otoh didn't get his act together and got tossed. 

The whole Tattoogate thing seems kind of quaint now in retrospect, doesn't it? We're making that legal now. James Laurinaitis (RIP Joe) has commented that he had a pro teammate from Alabama who would rib him and say, 'Man, y'all take that shit way too seriously.'

The Tressel players left behind and inherited by Meyer were all pretty high character guys. Urban's a great recruiter and he was able to build on what Tressel established following the disorder of the Cooper years. I don't think anything was dictated He just had the luxury of being more selective. And since he recruits nationally while Tressel focused more on Ohio kids, he had a larger talent pool to select from. Urban did shut down the pipeline from Glenville which produced some really great players like Teddy Ginn but also some troubled kids who didn't make it. 

[ousux 5597]

Fuck it, I’ll chip in a million. Who’s with me?

I'm with you, escrow is my middle name. PM for details on how you can safely deposit your mil..

[Treefidy 1463]

1 hour ago, South Austin said:

Fuck it, I’ll chip in a million. Who’s with me?

Put me down for 2.

 

57 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

This. This right here is the long and short of it.

I want Urban to coach Texas. As much as any reason, I want this because it will tell us once and for all whether we have just been blindingly stupid in hiring, or we as a program are simply cursed.

Call him up, make him Assistant AD for Football (which he already is, or at least was very recently at tOSU), make #MensaTom report to him. Let the winning commence.

i like this idea, plus give Urban a head-HC title, and control of the program. “ So Mensa, what would you would say you do here?“

[Tex Long 4383]

3 minutes ago, Treefidy said:

i like this idea, plus give Urban a head-HC title, and control of the program. “ So Mensa, what would you would say you do here?“

I think it would work, and with any luck at all, #MensaTom would be sufficiently butthurt to run away sucking his thumb... especially if we can Jimbo him away without requiring him to buy out (that's what Free Shoes U did for Jimbo, wasn't it?).

[Treefidy 1463]

Here you go Urban, heres Mensas salary/buyout for the next 3 years.   You basically have 3 options here, fire him and give him his buyout, demote him and keep paying him on schedule, or shame the smug fuck into quitting and keep the money for yourself.  Your call.

Seriously, our current trajectory may have us => 20 losses in 4 seasons under this asshole who will have been paid nearly $1M for each of those losses.  

[ztejas 43411]

37 minutes ago, Treefidy said:

"So Mensa, what would you would say you do here?“

Someone already made this joke. Or maybe it was in a different thread. Idk, there are like 4 of them just for the Urban Meyer discussion.

[Dbeasy 15042]

The entire country seems to have lost its moral and ethical compass so no reason not to bring in Meyer, right?

[El Diablo 4232]

3 hours ago, Bevo VIII said:

Large programs don’t need to but they do anyway to get every competitive advantage they can. 

Eh, I don't even know what "cheating" is anymore. Paying the guys seems to pretty much be an acknowledged  reality at this point and outside of that I guess there's some bullshit NCAA violations on recruiting possibly but fuck those people in their goat ass. 

[Longboard Horn 40296]

On 10/3/2020 at 9:15 PM, USNALonghorn said:

Seeing the same. The question is does our administration want it.

They better want it or they can all get fucked!

[WhatTheBuck 28775]

39 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

Eh, I don't even know what "cheating" is anymore. Paying the guys seems to pretty much be an acknowledged  reality at this point and outside of that I guess there's some bullshit NCAA violations on recruiting possibly but fuck those people in their goat ass. 

I've followed Urban's career from Bowling Green to Utah to Florida to Ohio State and there's never been a whisper of paying for players. I don't recall any major NCAA infractions, either. 

His "No guns" rule might be an obstacle to taking the UT job. I mean, it's nice to hear you're willing to cheat to win but wouldn't a ban on guns be crossing some sort of line?

[Doc Reeves 6434]

I’d like my schools football team to win more. It would be nice. I’m not so desperate that I would want to do anything to win.

most schools suck at FB

[Tex Long 4383]

2 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

I’d like my schools football team to win more. It would be nice. I’m not so desperate that I would want to do anything to win.

most schools suck at FB

Well, half of 'em, anyhow.

[Gene Parmesan 4002]

1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I've followed Urban's career from Bowling Green to Utah to Florida to Ohio State and there's never been a whisper of paying for players. I don't recall any major NCAA infractions, either. 

His "No guns" rule might be an obstacle to taking the UT job. I mean, it's nice to hear you're willing to cheat to win but wouldn't a ban on guns be crossing some sort of line?

Strong had the same no guns rule.  I want to say Herman does as well.  It doesn't mean anything.

[WhatTheBuck 28775]

3 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Strong had the same no guns rule.  I want to say Herman does as well.  It doesn't mean anything.

Maybe it's an obstacle in recruiting Texas kids. 

I'm mostly just being facetious. 

[Fletch 5800]

The “no guns” thing isn’t referring to Colt and Shipley going hunting. It’s about driving around with unregistered handguns and shit. But you knew that 

[CBHorn 420]

1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I've followed Urban's career from Bowling Green to Utah to Florida to Ohio State and there's never been a whisper of paying for players. I don't recall any major NCAA infractions, either. 

His "No guns" rule might be an obstacle to taking the UT job. I mean, it's nice to hear you're willing to cheat to win but wouldn't a ban on guns be crossing some sort of line?

Herman has the same thing.  Actually, his is "No Weapons," which would seem to be more exclusive.  Given how much of a pussy Herman is, he probably didn't think of it on his own and got it from Urban.  Herman sure likes to say, "When we won a national championship..." about his time at Ohio State.

From Herman's locker room:

Edited October 7, 2020 by CBHorn

[closetohumping 17435]

4 hours ago, El Diablo said:

My apologies, my intent was not clear. I just meant to imply via sarcasm that the character of the players was not squeaky clean. Turning a blind eye and/or institutionalized plausible deniability is character revealed. Large programs don't need to cheat. 

Uhm are Bama, LSU and Clemson small programs?

[Tex-19 2872]

People's main issue with Urban isn't about paying recruits (most of the top schools/coaches do that). The issue is his consistent tolerance of violent crimes from his players and staff at multiple schools. Just google it if you don't know what I'm talking about. It's well documented.

[Gene Parmesan 4002]

14 minutes ago, CBHorn said:

Herman has the same thing.  Actually, his is "No Weapons," which would seem to be more exclusive.  Given how much of a pussy Herman is, he probably didn't think of it on his own and got it from Urban.  Herman sure likes to say, "When we won a national championship..." about his time at Ohio State.

From Herman's locker room:

Both Strong and Herman got it from Urban.  Neither tried to pass it off as their own idea, and like I said it really doesn't mean anything.  You get caught illegally carrying a weapon at any program you have a problem, and no program is booting a player because they went dove hunting one weekend.

Edited October 7, 2020 by Gene Parmesan

[Loather 127]

Fuck You Futureman, I've always thought that retarded picture is so perfect for you, CDC came in and immediately starts saying "the fans expect a championship every year" and other condescending BS, It was only due to pressure from the fan base that Herman had to make the staff changes, CDC made it clear he was fine with everything as he held a press conference in the recovery room, Texas is dysfunctional probably past being fixable 

Edited October 7, 2020 by Loather

[JesusSweatDuck 17781]

3 hours ago, Treefidy said:

Put me down for 2.

you really missed the opportunity to use your username here...

[WhatTheBuck 28775]

38 minutes ago, Fletch said:

The “no guns” thing isn’t referring to Colt and Shipley going hunting. It’s about driving around with unregistered handguns and shit. But you knew that 

I'm sure you would know better than I how Urban ran his Buckeye program. 

[Fletch 5800]

Dude. Charlie and Herman both do that 5 core values thing Urban does. We’re familiar with it too. Your Ohio state education is showing 

[WhatTheBuck 28775]

49 minutes ago, Fletch said:

Dude. Charlie and Herman both do that 5 core values thing Urban does. We’re familiar with it too. Your Ohio state education is showing 

Why did some Buckeye upperclassmen with registered guns express displeasure over the rule? The rule was no guns on campus. I don't assume to know how Strong and Herman do it at Texas. Why do you assume you know how Urban did it at Ohio State? Is that your Texas education showing?

Also, if I recall, Colt and Shipley played for Mack Brown. 

[Ricky Butler 2683]

I don't think we need to talk about a "no guns" rule being a negative in the hiring of Urban Meyer. 

[Fletch 5800]

16 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Why did some Buckeye upperclassmen with registered guns express displeasure over the rule? The rule was no guns on campus. I don't assume to know how Strong and Herman do it at Texas. Why do you assume you know how Urban did it at Ohio State? Is that your Texas education showing?

Also, if I recall, Colt and Shipley played for Mack Brown. 

Yes they did, I was just using them as an example. The rule isn’t for hunting season. It’s street gang shit. Wait are we agreeing and just arguing for no reason? And yeah sorry, didn’t know y’all had some upperclassmen voice displeasure

[MonkeyDoughnut 10229]

I prefer Sabans core values of: Discipline, commitment, effort, toughness and pride.

Should we really need to list things like: honesty, treat women with respect, no drugs, no weapons, no stealing?? Shouldn't those be kinda given?

[ztejas 43411]

2 hours ago, Doc Reeves said:

most schools suck at FB

I don't know. How many schools have been ranked in the top 5 since 2010? I'll just go off the top of my head:

Alabama

Auburn

LSU

UGA

Florida

Miss St

Ole Miss (I think)

FSU

Clemson

Oregon

Notre Dame

USC (I think)

Washington

Oklahoma

Oklahoma State

Kansas State

Baylor

TCU

(I mean ouch)

Michigan

Ohio State

Penn State

Sparty

Wisconsin

UCF

 

And I'm probably missing a few.

 

 

[horn.g20 109]

most football players are violent low IQ narcissists, so you have to cut them a little slack if you want to train them to be pets.

[Doc Reeves 6434]

35 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I don't know. How many schools have been ranked in the top 5 since 2010? I'll just go off the top of my head:

Alabama

Auburn

LSU

UGA

Florida

Miss St

Ole Miss (I think)

FSU

Clemson

Oregon

Notre Dame

USC (I think)

Washington

Oklahoma

Oklahoma State

Kansas State

Baylor

TCU

(I mean ouch)

Michigan

Ohio State

Penn State

Sparty

Wisconsin

UCF

 

And I'm probably missing a few.

 

 

Right. Out of 125

[Gene Parmesan 4002]

I think it's in the 130s now.

[ztejas 43411]

3 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

Right. Out of 125

That's fine. No one is forcing you to be a supporter. 

I could make the argument that your degree is probably worth more, even if it's at a subliminal level, if Texas is good at football, though.

[Steelers Roll Left 1167]

#FireHermanHireUrban

[Michael Knight 12977]

Shit Bob Stoops is available. Surly would have hired Barry Switzer in the 80's

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

14 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Shit Bob Stoops is available. Surly would have hired Barry Switzer in the 80's

Stoops > Herman 

[maninblack 7974]

On 10/7/2020 at 1:48 PM, Steelers Roll Left said:

#FireHermanHireUrban

Reminds me of “Dump DeLoss and Flush the John.”

[The Earl of Texas 3132]

Urban, as a part of your deal, you are free to come and burn Tom’s house to the ground with his furniture and personal effects still inside.

[BradInATX 9208]

If any of you still think we should take a chance on another up and comer because we're too pure for Urban, please shoot yourself in the face.

[Gucci_Suit 2643]

This is going to happen right? 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

Fucking better

[Bill Lumbergh 7171]

Before the last two games, I was in the camp that if Urban will come, you have to fire Herman, otherwise maybe you hold on for another year bc the wheels aren't fully off the train.

Now I don't really give a fuck. Hopefully we get serious and hire Urban, but I'm just rooting for not Herman at this point. Another year signed on with him will do serious damage to our program. At least try something not proven to fail.

[sidis 9823]

I have hated this idea. Until today. God damn our coaches are fucking terrible. 

[Tex Long 4383]

7 minutes ago, sidis said:

I have hated this idea. Until today. God damn our coaches are fucking terrible. 

You've spelt chicken-fuckers incorrectly.

[wood 11225]

3 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

You've spelt chicken-fuckers incorrectly.

I dunno ... it seems like they're pretty good at that.

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

So what’s the deal with his health issues?  I know most just chalked it up as an exit cover, but I also remember him looking like he was in physical pain on the sidelines towards the end of his Ohio state run. 

i vaguely remember during Florida the rumor was a heart condition. 
 

at Ohio state the word was he had an inoperable, but non-deadly brain cyst that would fill up and cause pain. I also remember something about it being stressed induced and that it reached the point to where it couldn’t be drained anymore?    I don’t remember the exact details. 
 

Does anyone know if Urban himself has made any comments one way or the other? 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2020 by Xian

[lemonandaturd 4285]

Meyer is rested and ready.  He "spent time with his family" after the OSU mess.  He is 56 and as fit as a fiddle.  He is not as fat as Mack even though he does love pizza.   Even with that pesky little brain cyst, he is smarter than HerMensa.  

Edited October 11, 2020 by lemonandaturd

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

1 minute ago, lemonandaturd said:

Meyer is rested and ready.  He "spent time with his family" after the OSU mess.  He is 56 and as fit as a fiddle.  He is not as fat as Mack even though he does love pizza.  

Mrs Meyer?  
Okay, I’m sold! 

[Rip76 4925]

56 is a very good age to coach here 10 and pass it on to someone trusted.

[Elmer_Fudd 22204]

Meyer constantly talks about how Texas doesn't develop.  I think he'd come here just to stick it to Herman that he'd develop our guys and put them in the league.  Plus win.

[txbroadcaster 110]

8 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

56 is a very good age to coach here 10 and pass it on to someone trusted.

He has yet to last past 5 years anywhere.