Urban Meyer or bust

[Deej 76799]

24 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

I’m not blown away by any options outside of Urban. If Urban says no for now but he thinks he’ll be ready to get back into coaching a year from now, it may be worth it to hold out one more year. And yes, I know that means suffering another year of turtle Tom. Ugh

Too fucking late. One more year of Tom, who is a dead man walking already, will damage this program for years to come. 

[UncleSonny 6572]

14 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

So is Carrington going to kill it at Vanderbilt or what?

How long has Carrington been attached to Herman, he came from Houston right? He's about the only Herman guy I'm curious to see how his career plays out from here.

[wood 11226]

54 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

no, it's rpongett...any old posters remember that fella?

Yes sir.

[Bill Lumbergh 7171]

I’m not blown away by any options outside of Urban. If Urban says no for now but he thinks he’ll be ready to get back into coaching a year from now, it may be worth it to hold out one more year. And yes, I know that means suffering another year of turtle Tom. Ugh

If it's not Urban, it won't matter if we keep Tom or bring in a new underwhelming hire.

10 years is plenty of patience. We either make the moves necessary to land the big changes, or I suspect a significant portion of our base is out for a while.

[RGBIII 22840]

9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

@alincoln

With the alleged 10 million dollar staff budget do you think the following is possible?

do you think Ohio state would match a million plus salary for Marotti? $1,235,000($500k raise)

mark pantoni - $600k(400k raise)

Brian Voltolini - $700k($460k raise) 

 

which would leave nearly 7.5 million for remaining staff  

 

Retain chris ash and that’s 6.7 million left  another 700k for his son to be co-oc/QB coach and that’s would be about 6 million remaining 

 

 

 

 

We can keep Giles on staff with pluckers gift cards 

[CenTex Hill Billy 146]

10 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

@alincoln

With the alleged 10 million dollar staff budget do you think the following is possible?

do you think Ohio state would match a million plus salary for Marotti? $1,235,000($500k raise)

mark pantoni - $600k(400k raise)

Brian Voltolini - $700k($460k raise) 

 

which would leave nearly 7.5 million for remaining staff  

 

Retain chris ash and that’s 6.7 million left  another 700k for his son to be co-oc/QB coach and that’s would be about 6 million remaining 

Chris Ash for 800k/yr is a steal.

[RGBIII 22840]

2 minutes ago, Deej said:

Too fucking late. One more year of Tom, who is a dead man walking already, will damage this program for years to come. 

Would be the death knell. Recruiting would never be worse and I don’t know if even Urban can save it. Two transition classes is a 4-5 year rebuild

[OU Still Sucks 37]

Brian Voltolini has been with urban since his Bowling Green days. Mark Pantoni with Florida and Ohio St. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by OU Still Sucks

[CenTex Hill Billy 146]

4 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Would be the death knell. Recruiting would never be worse and I don’t know if even Urban can save it. Two transition classes is a 4-5 year rebuild

Agreed. Needs to be done this year so there's minimal damage due to extended eligibility and transfer freebie.

Edited December 1, 2020 by CenTex Hill Billy

[Valmy77 13226]

3 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Would be the death knell. Recruiting would never be worse and I don’t know if even Urban can save it. Two transition classes is a 4-5 year rebuild

Agreed. Every day Herman remains makes the job of the next coach harder, no matter who it is.

[wood 11226]

41 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

The coin flip stuff is hilarious. They charge money for that shit? At least we do have some credible sources. For fist’s sake lol. 

Yep. Sounds exactly like ... oh, I dunno ... something the site owner would post to get more subscribers signed up.

[Queen Bitch 1692]

5 minutes ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

If it's not Urban, it won't matter if we keep Tom or bring in a new underwhelming hire.

10 years is plenty of patience. We either make the moves necessary to land the big changes, or I suspect a significant portion of our base is out for a while.

Good news is, CDC has to know this. Hence throwing the $60m+ kitchen sink Urban. 
 

I was out for most of last season and this one too. Can’t imagine giving a shit next year if it’s some wide-eyed new coach who’s in way over his head.

[Butch Had Not 2971]

3 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Would be the death knell. Recruiting would never be worse and I don’t know if even Urban can save it. Two transition classes is a 4-5 year rebuild

This here. Zero confidence from fans and donors will result in attendance drop and no money coming in. Recruiting will have even a bigger gap (USC found this out that even at a blue blood,  recruiting can go to hell due to coaching uncertainty) between the haves and us.

Fuck this. I need my blankey now.

[victory88 5668]

If Meyer wants to keep Carrington, sure.  Otherwise,  he can follow up Herman to the next spot or go to LSU.  His shine has worn off a bit with our lackluster recruiting.

[Nicole44 22060]

That’s why we are swinging big. Aim past the fences. Ten years is too long. Herman hit the reset button (hiring a new staff). He was given every fair chance to succeed and had 15 returning seniors and a sports media consensus Heisman candidate QB. He’s been given every resource to make it work. Year on year improvement. Not starting every year like it’s year one. He was given a shot to made the Big 12 and he failed. Wasting one more moment’s thought or year on him would be foolish. We have seen the ceiling and it’s as close as he will ever get. 
 

 

[pops 6986]

34 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

How long were Bama’s negotiations with Saban? If it can believed they just kept asking until he said yes. Refused to take no for an answer. Wear ‘em down! Hook’em. No is not an answer we should accept. There is no “no.” 

Used radiator magnate out of Mobile pushed it over the top

[RGBIII 22840]

10 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Would be the death knell. Recruiting would never be worse and I don’t know if even Urban can save it. Two transition classes is a 4-5 year rebuild

Here is the proof as well...USC below Rutgers in recruiting regardless of class size

 

[Caddox 952]

20 minutes ago, ATLLonghorn said:

Yeah I'm with you. Like I said, it's highly unlikely. I think he's the first call you make if Urban says no. He'd probably say no, but I'm just outlining why I think his system would do well in college.

Im sure there are lots of people that will be called again but Shanahan already politely told us to take him off the list. Same with Saban and Dabo. 

[Smax 3800]

5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The ice cream they serve is blue bell. Really good shakes due to that. Yeah I know aggy/listeria etc but still nice. 

 

 

Stopped at the one in Fairfield several times during the Houston to Dallas treks, not a bad burger at all

[PassiveAggressiveCoach 118]

I wish someone could've seen Herman failing miserably this yr.  It's so shocking. Normally firing your coords and hiring new ones always works. 

[Tex-19 2872]

I'd be very content if the NFL name is Matt Rhule and we got him. And if the qualifications required are college HC experience, I think he and Pete Carroll are the only ones who fit the criteria. I guess O'Brien too if he still counts as NFL but no chance Houston BMDs would ok that

[RollLeft 5045]

34 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

Speaking of Spaghetti, do you combine the noodles and sauce first, then plate? Or do you put pasta on plate, then add sauce? I always did the former, but I was told that its the wrong way..

What is this "sauce" that you speak of?  My understanding of guido terminology is that they call it gravy.  

[NoName 16352]

2 minutes ago, victory88 said:

If Meyer wants to keep Carrington, sure.  Otherwise,  he can follow up Herman to the next spot or go to LSU.  His shine has worn off a bit with our lackluster recruiting.

Hard disagree. Dude will easily find another job and is smart enough to not follow Herman

[BrickTop 477]

Brian Voltolini has been with urban since his Bowling Green days. Mark Pantoni with Florida and Ohio St. 

Does this dude only hire Italians?

[BornAndRaised 12284]

Its quiet... too quiet

[NoName 16352]

Just now, Tex-19 said:

I'd be very content if the NFL name is Matt Rhule and we got him. And if the qualifications required are college HC experience, I think he and Pete Carroll are the only ones who fit the criteria. I guess O'Brien too if he still counts as NFL but no chance Houston BMDs would ok that

Matt Ruhle is guaranteed something like $50-60 million from the Panthers, who also paid a pretty damn high buyout to Baylor to get him.

Ruhle took a ton of his coaching tree and buddies with him to Carolina

Ruhle may hate coaching in the NFL but he isn't dumb enough to crater his NFL career FOR-EV-ER halfway through his first season to leave for another job in college.

It is not Matt Ruhle and even hinting at it is a waste of brainpower.

[The Earl of Texas 3132]

Turban Meyer

[RollLeft 5045]

2 minutes ago, BrickTop said:

Does this dude only hire Italians?

fuggeddaboutit, now go get your shinebox

Edited December 1, 2020 by RollLeft

[LTtxfan 49196]

49 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

The coin flip stuff is hilarious. They charge money for that shit? At least we do have some credible sources. For fist’s sake lol. 

[RGBIII 22840]

3 minutes ago, BrickTop said:

Does this dude only hire Italians?

 

[CenTex Hill Billy 146]

6 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

I'd be very content if the NFL name is Matt Rhule and we got him. And if the qualifications required are college HC experience, I think he and Pete Carroll are the only ones who fit the criteria. I guess O'Brien too if he still counts as NFL but no chance Houston BMDs would ok that

Matt Rhule is signed through '27... $62MM over 7. Not gonna happen.

Edited December 1, 2020 by CenTex Hill Billy

[NoName 16352]

Just now, CenTex Hill Billy said:

Matt Rhule is signed through '27... $62MM over 7. Not gonna happen.

with $50+ million guaranteed.

[alincoln 2372]

I don't think money matters with respect to Marotti' s decision.  He's either going to follow Urban or he's not regardless of the cash.  

Ohio State would match the Pantoni offer if Day told them to which I'm sure he would.  He would absolutely turn Texas recruiting on its head overnight.  Back to Mack era closed borders.

[JFKFC 4885]

6 minutes ago, The Earl of Texas said:

Turban Meyer

Bourbon Meyer

 

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-state/Article/Ohio-State-football-coach-Urban-Meyer-says-he-needed-pills-alcohol-to-sleep-at-Florida-47442197/

[hornian 5219]

3 hours ago, 936horn said:

Can anyone give me a good reason why they get their dick hard about Shanahan? What makes us think he could recruit or coach the college game? I get that he's a young coach who took his team to the SB but he's spent his entire career in the NFL

Well he and Chris Simms had matching butt tattoos or something if IIRC, so there's that. 

[SydneyCarton 48108]

Lol at Victory88 blaming Carrington for our lackluster recruiting. Thats like blaming the WR for not catching the ball when the QB throws it 40 yards out of bounds. 

[Bevo14 8312]

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

Lol at Victory88 blaming Carrington for our lackluster recruiting. Thats like blaming the WR for not catching the ball when the QB throws it 40 yards out of bounds. 

Well maybe the receiver should've had enough body control to catch it and land in bounds anyway!

[Tex-19 2872]

Strange that Pantoni makes only $200k if he's so crucial. Offer him $500k just to show he'd be appreciated here..

[wood 11226]

11 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

Its quiet... too quiet

Quiet is good.

[Tex-19 2872]

Heck, make it a mil if Urban wants to redirect some from his assistant budget

[MoJames 8244]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Right, unless he just comes out and says "Texas isn't the right kind of program fit for me, but good luck to anyone taking it", which would be crushing the UT program's soul, I'm guessing health is most likely the reason he'd give, if he said anything publicly. 

One theory around the premise of him not taking the job, which I think is a legitimate consideration if he does say no, is that he thinks USC comes open after next year and that that is the spot he wants to be. I guess I can understand that, but I choose to believe that he'll instead be announced at Texas within the next 7 days and nothing else is worth deeply examining.

I think the best next step in this recruiting thread is to provide a detailed outline of USC vs Texas Co-eds.

[MIkeHoncho 1911]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

says Urban coming if he can get Pantoni to join him in Austin.

best bag man in the biz?

[TexasFan21 1275]

Any flight tracker updates? 

[JesusSweatDuck 17781]

7 minutes ago, hornian said:

Well he and Chris Simms had matching butt tattoos or something if IIRC, so there's that. 

Tramp Stamps

[victory88 5668]

6 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lol at Victory88 blaming Carrington for our lackluster recruiting. Thats like blaming the WR for not catching the ball when the QB throws it 40 yards out of bounds. 

I'm not blaming him.  I'm ready for a fresh start.  Why not see if there are better options if there is an overhaul and if Meyer finds him to be best at the job, then keep him.

[JesusSweatDuck 17781]

5 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

Well maybe the receiver should've had enough body control to catch it and land in bounds anyway!

Jetpack Man WR

[Orange&White 5528]

Herman was given the following contract in 2018:

 

FY 2019: $5,750,000
FY 2020: $6,000,000
FY 2021: $6,250,000
FY 2022: $6,500,000
FY 2023: $6,750,000

 

That's $31.25 million dollars. He's getting all of it for only having coached two years. That's $15.625M/year for the two season he coached before getting fired for sucking.

Paying Urban $12M/year looks like a fucking bargain comparatively.

[GlenFromTheMailRoom 1612]

5 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Strange that Pantoni makes only $200k if he's so crucial. Offer him $500k just to show he'd be appreciated here..

I was thinking that as well.  If this dude runs tOSU’s recruiting engine, he’s terribly underpaid.

[dcar00 14210]

Just now, victory88 said:

I'm not blaming him.  I'm ready for a fresh start.  Why not see if there are better options if there is an overhaul and if Meyer finds him to be best at the job, then keep him.

while I am sure Urbs has Texas HSFB connections you might keep one guy that has current relationships.

[Bevo14 8312]

1 minute ago, Orange&White said:

Herman was given the following contract in 2018:

 

FY 2019: $5,750,000
FY 2020: $6,000,000
FY 2021: $6,250,000
FY 2022: $6,500,000
FY 2023: $6,750,000

 

That's $31.25 million dollars. He's getting all of it for only having coached two years. That's $15.625M/year for the two season he coached before getting fired for sucking.

Paying Urban $12M/year looks like a fucking bargain comparatively.

Jesus that's some stupid shit. At least make a guy lose less than 4 games one time before you break the bank.

Edited December 1, 2020 by Bevo14