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  On 12/3/2020 at 6:43 PM, BradInATX said:

Sure, but a smart Volkswagen mechanic who knows how to lean on experienced people and is quick on the uptake will turn into a good Ferrari mechanic in a few years.

The rest of the jokers available out there are drooling on themselves trying to figure out how to put together a lego car. Give me the smart Volkswagen guy.

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Volkswagens are for peasants

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  On 12/3/2020 at 6:49 PM, Brisketexan said:

So, I've only been able to skim through the last 9,359 pages of this thread.

Joe Rogan is going to be our new coach, Matt Rhule and/or a velociraptor will also be on staff, and the HSB Marriot curtains are now a meme.  Did I get that right?

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Side of mayo.  But otherwise, correct.

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  On 12/3/2020 at 2:21 PM, Horn80 said:

Yep, the women out there would kick my ass.  Tough crowd 

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Worked a job out in Midland in the late 80s. I can't remember the name of the motel or the bar but the bar was right across the street. One of the first times we came in there we got to know the bartenders pretty well and they all have the same advice. They said that quite often they had Odessa women come in and get drunk and if one of them asked you to dance you'd better dance with them because if you didn't they would try to kick your ass and were oftentimes successful.

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  On 12/3/2020 at 7:21 PM, gmr548 said:


Yeah he’s been courted before but he’s petty adamant about being a Northwestern guy for life. Good coach though.

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UT has some academic cachet like Northwestern.  We could change his family's financial life without having to be an NFL guy.

If he is good enough for the Packers to consider, we should probably try if we end up in Plan B.

Sure it's not a sexy hire, but we've tried recent success guys like Herman and Strong.  This would be trying something different.

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  On 12/3/2020 at 7:20 PM, Bevo14 said:

I'd say Campbell's resume is more similar to Dan Mullen's at Mississippi State.

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In terms of turning one of the more difficult P5 jobs into a top 25 team and conference contender, yes they are

Prior to that, they're a little different though. Mullen has major program experience though from his time at Florida and even Notre Dame as a GA, while Campbell was a small school guy (Mount Union/Bowling Green) and then Toledo, who eventually turned down being Urban's OC twice so that he could be a successful young (youngest in the country) head coach, albeit at a program that was in good shape when he took over. Dudes been a head coach for nine years already, and he's only 42. 

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  On 12/3/2020 at 7:13 PM, The Dog said:

Ohio State guys are saying that Meyer isn't even in C-bus but in Vegas.

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Well if that's to be believed, this flight raises some flags. It's gone Columbus --> HOU --> DAL --> HOU this week (couple other stops as well) and has a bullshit list of upcoming flights, but one fork would take it from where it is now (HOU) to Las Vegas today and then on to Palm Springs tomorrow.

Edit: The Palm Springs piece would also line up with the golfing piece of the Squid's tweet. And getting Urban back out to Palm Springs/California tomorrow would be logical given the Fox show on Saturday. 

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  On 12/3/2020 at 7:26 PM, SHOOTER12 said:

They said that quite often they had Odessa women come in and get drunk and if one of them asked you to dance you'd better dance with them because if you didn't they would try to kick your ass and were oftentimes successful.

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That officially eliminates  Odessa from the shittiest town bracket.

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  On 12/3/2020 at 6:55 PM, ztejas said:

I'm not entertaining Cristobal. I never have - you can check my entire post history. 

I am firmly in the: "If we don't get Urban then it's Chinatown" camp. 

That said, gun to my head I guess I would take Fickell. Certainly over Matt Campbell. Fickell's current Cincy team is better than any team Campbell has ever coached and you aren't changing my stance on that until we see Cincy fuck around and drop some shitty game (and I don't expect to see them do that).

Unlike others from the Urban tree - Fickell actually has a very similar background.

If we miss on Urban then I'm going to be pretty disillusioned no matter who we hire - but I could at least get up for Fickell or maybe a wildcard from the NFL or top college coordinating ranks. If we hire Matt fucking Campbell it will likely be years before I give a shit about our on the field product or support the program in any way - because it will likely be years before we see any results IF any. 

Whoever commented "yeah well give the VW guy a few years and he can figure out the Ferrari" is making my point for me. I'm not interested in SEEING some heartland Miss Flyover State trip over their dicks for 3 years and get swallowed up by one of the biggest jobs in the country. We've just seen this happen twice and wasted 7 years in the process.

"Maybe Matt Campbell pans out" - fuck that shit. That is complacent, loser-ass thinking and it's why OU smacks our ass 4 out of 5 times when we don't have a Heisman candidate on the field.

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There are three distinct buckets of possible coaches:

1. Those with multiple head coaching stints - Campbell, Cristobal, etc.. There are reports that CDC wants someone with success at multiple stops. 

2. Those with one head coaching job - Fickell, Tom Allen, Bill Napier, etc. Herman and Strong were in this group when we hired them. Fickell seems really impressive, but it's hard to tell if that will translate. Tom Allen's job at Indiana is even more impressive. His record isn't as good, but IU is in the ISU tier of crappy jobs.

3. Those with no head coaching experience - Brent Venables, etc. I don't think CDC is even considering this group.

If CDC insists on group 1, Campbell seems the way to go. If you throw in group 2, there's some tough competition. If UM falls through, I wouldn't mind kicking the tires on Campbell, Fickell and Allen. Neither Fickell nor Allen lose to teams they shouldn't. Allen has a slight advantage because he's playing better competition and IU is blowing dominating teams with similar talent and hanging with/beating teams with much better talent.

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  On 12/3/2020 at 6:40 PM, BradInATX said:
Can you think of a single great football coach at any level that would do the backpack thing to Drew Lock that Herman did? I can't.
Try to get a mental image of Dabo, Urban, Saban, Bellicheck, Payton, Tomlin, Carroll, etc. doing that and you'll realize what a caricature Tom Herman is.

That one really was the moment I started thinking Herman was going to fail. That is so wildly unbecoming of the coach at Texas that it’s hard to articulate. Especially when he began and ended his first season getting punked by inferior teams at home.

FWIW, Maryland 2018 was strike two and OU last year, which was an ass beating despite the score line, was the final straw.
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  On 12/3/2020 at 7:15 PM, crash_davis said:

killing my buzz. so all the positive news and excitement of the past few days is all fan fiction? 

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Of course. It all is made up. Like Burton said, it's not that he doesn't believe what his sources are repeating; it's that he doesn't believe what they themselves are hearing.

It's all a deliberate smokescreen for what's actually happening.

So nobody knows shit.

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Those stupid "so and so's wife is in town looking at real estate on the downlow" posts/insights need to stop. For every coaching hire--not just this one. Urban is a very rich man; could about to be richer. Austin is a very nice town where wealthy people live. His wife does not need to fly down there and look at houses. Without a doubt there are multi-million dollar homes available. This isn't like your uncle Bobby getting an offer to run a bait stand in Kilgore so he sends his sisterwife Betty Lou down to the trailer park to see if there are parking spots available with good shade left for them to jackup the trailer. Rich people will have rich people places to live in Austin. No one send a wife down to look. Stop with that crap. 

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Posted
  On 12/3/2020 at 6:40 PM, BradInATX said:
Can you think of a single great football coach at any level that would do the backpack thing to Drew Lock that Herman did? I can't.
Try to get a mental image of Dabo, Urban, Saban, Bellicheck, Payton, Tomlin, Carroll, etc. doing that and you'll realize what a caricature Tom Herman is.

That one really was the moment I started thinking Herman was going to fail. That is so wildly unbecoming of the coach at Texas that it’s hard to articulate. Especially when he began and ended his first season getting punked by inferior teams at home.

FWIW, Maryland 2018 was strike two and OU last year, which was an ass beating despite the score line, was the final straw.
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  On 12/3/2020 at 7:29 PM, Texasrocks said:

There are three distinct buckets of possible coaches:

1. Those with multiple head coaching stints - Campbell, Cristobal, etc.. There are reports that CDC wants someone with success at multiple stops. 

2. Those with one head coaching job - Fickell, Tom Allen, Bill Napier, etc. Herman and Strong were in this group when we hired them. Fickell seems really impressive, but it's hard to tell if that will translate. Tom Allen's job at Indiana is even more impressive. His record isn't as good, but IU is in the ISU tier of crappy jobs.

3. Those with no head coaching experience - Brent Venables, etc. I don't think CDC is even considering this group.

If CDC insists on group 1, Campbell seems the way to go. If you throw in group 2, there's some tough competition. If UM falls through, I wouldn't mind kicking the tires on Campbell, Fickell and Allen. Neither Fickell nor Allen lose to teams they shouldn't. Allen has a slight advantage because he's playing better competition and IU is blowing dominating teams with similar talent and hanging with/beating teams with much better talent.

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I'm impressed that Allen kept it going after losing his OC, who I was interested in Texas hiring 

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  On 12/3/2020 at 7:30 PM, squib said:

Those stupid "so and so's wife is in town looking at real estate on the downlow" posts/insights need to stop. For every coaching hire--not just this one. Urban is a very rich man; could about to be richer. Austin is a very nice town where wealthy people live. His wife does not need to fly down there and look at houses. Without a doubt there are multi-million dollar homes available. This isn't like your uncle Bobby getting an offer to run a bait stand in Kilgore so he sends his sisterwife Betty Lou down to the trailer park to see if there are parking spots available with good shade left for them to jackup the trailer. Rich people will have rich people places to live in Austin. No one send a wife down to look. Stop with that crap. 

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You must not be married.  

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