Urban Meyer or bust

[wood 11227]

13 minutes ago, UTEX_ME said:

shit starting to spread. ESPN & FOX will have it in the morning I'm sure. Egg on face UT. FUCKKKK

Wow. Read that story. It's amazing what passes for 'news' these days. Nothing is verified at all, and they're already reporting it as fact.

[wood 11227]

12 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

any confirmation of that from his guys? 

Of course not. There's no confirmation of anything, but there are already stories reporting it as fact and there will be lots more tomorrow unless someone comes out with some official info.

Edited December 7, 2020 by wood

[CowtownHorn 5126]

Wouldn’t Herman actively be looking for another gig at this point? Surely he’s seen the writing on the wall. Why would he want to wait around now to get canned after next season? Or is it better for him to finish out his contract if they decide to keep him? If CDC’s backup, backup plan (Herman) takes another job soon...how embarrassing would that be?

Edited December 7, 2020 by CowtownHorn

[wood 11227]

11 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Still without a legitimate source. Journalism has gone to complete shit. 

Yep. For all we know, these fucks pulled this shit right out of their fat asses.

[Topper13 3375]

I'll take Ash as interim HC, for the season. Fuck TH, he has to go.  

[UTEX_ME 4766]

Hoping all these leaks and articles force CDC to shit or get off the pot with firing Herman and starting a coaching search. BMDs gonna be mighty pissed calling in the morning reading all this shit. 

[CowtownHorn 5126]

Also, with these reports spreading like wildfire...I would think that CDC would have to address this ASAP one way or another today.

[wood 11227]

Just now, CowtownHorn said:

Also, with these reports spreading like wildfire...I would think that CDC would have to address this ASAP one way or another today.

Yep.

[Valmy77 13247]

32 minutes ago, UTEX_ME said:

shit starting to spread. ESPN & FOX will have it in the morning I'm sure. Egg on face UT. FUCKKKK

Why is this egg on our face? I thought we were supposed to make everybody good say no to us.

[CowtownHorn 5126]

1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:

Why is this egg on our face? I thought we were supposed to make everybody good say no to us.

True.

Edited December 7, 2020 by CowtownHorn
But they had better damn well have a backup plan.

[UTEX_ME 4766]

4 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Why is this egg on our face? I thought we were supposed to make everybody good say no to us.

More the way this is going to be perceived 

[westexhorn 2020]

How was it last year with USC, Clay Helton and Urban?  Was it a cluster fuck as well?

[oh_snap 694]

28 minutes ago, CowtownHorn said:

Wouldn’t Herman actively be looking for another gig at this point? Surely he’s seen the writing on the wall. Why would he want to wait around now to get canned after next season? Or is it better for him to finish out his contract if they decide to keep him? If CDC’s backup, backup plan (Herman) takes another job soon...how embarrassing would that be?

Won’t happen. No one else will pay him what is in his current contract. Other schools may pounce when he’s fired, to get a “deal” due to offset language. But not even Mensa is dumb enough to walk away from his current contract.  He’ll just mail it in next year if we keep him, which is what I think he did this year anyways. 

[Topper13 3375]

Alright Houston! You wanted the best and you got it! The hottest band in the world...

 

[SimonSays 132]

2 hours ago, C-Man said:

It appears CDC's plan to wait to let Herman go until he was ready to announce his replacement 15 minutes later was a gross miscalculation.

If you're gonna play that game, you better land your man. What a colossal fuckup this is. Lame-duck coach. Recruiting in the toilet. Now we're left holding our dorks in our hands.

CDC never had Meyer, probably wasn't even close to closing the deal at any point in the negotiations. If he had been, Herman would've been fired immediately. Meyer never wanted to coach Texas bad enough even if he was interested.

[Schulz2.0 28965]

2 hours ago, C-Man said:

It appears CDC's plan to wait to let Herman go until he was ready to announce his replacement 15 minutes later was a gross miscalculation.

If you're gonna play that game, you better land your man. What a colossal fuckup this is. Lame-duck coach. Recruiting in the toilet. Now we're left holding our dorks in our hands.

Hard for CDC to fire Herman midseason if the BMDs are only willing to pony up the buyout money if we hire Meyer.

[Topper13 3375]

Ace Frehley, lead guitar.

[Caddox 952]

Woke up in the middle of the night to check my phone. Not a single bit of activity on that thread since Sunday morning and it was all positive talk. If this 9.95 bs is true it will be humming tomorrow. If its false It could stay quiet. 

[derpyhorndog 2557]

Thanks @Caddox, keep us posted. To be completely honest, I FlightAware’ed the shit out of your post history given your silence today and saw nothing to suggest we have reason to trust you on this other than your word in this thread, but I’m going to because you seem like a cool dude and you’re selling stuff I want to hear.

On a related note — as this is partly based on the assumption Caddox has legit sources and the timing of him getting to the point of supreme confidence this morning that it was a done deal and down to the lawyers and “final details” — I’m not entirely dismissing the possibility that the Urban agreed to terms in principle last night or this morning on the basis that UT provide some extreme cover for a few days. Reasons being to deflect the spotlight (which he may not have appreciated the intensity of until recently), let the tOSU or other school’s staff he’s planning to take or still courting get some breathing room until the end of the regular season, publicly project that Urban wasn’t lined up before Herman was even chopped, and give UT time to get their house in order with Herman (whether that’s simply firing him, negotiating a buyout now that they know they’ve got his replacement, helping him to scout out a soft landing, or all of the above) while dual-tracking the papering of contracts of Urban and his known staffers so everything is lined up for them to hit the ground running come late next weekend with only a couple of days to go before NSD 1. 

Anticipating some responses might be “why would UT agree to totally embarrassing itself by doing that / what we saw last night?” Only reasons I could think of it was non-negotiable requirement in Urban putting pen to paper (also would allow him to test UT’s commitment to providing him extreme control over the program before even setting foot in Belmont) and, if they know with certainly that getting Urban is the ultimate payout in making that deal, the temporary egg-on-face is far outweighed (and will be forgotten in an instant) due to the payout. Would also be a way to test whether leaks through BMDs could be truly cut off if CDC/Hartzell know the consequences and make a concerted effort. 

I fully realize m it reads like fan fiction are odds are it is, and not saying I subscribe to the theory, just that that misdirection and outright lies are commonplace in coaching searches and it’s not outside the realm of possibility. 

Edited December 7, 2020 by derpyhorndog

[TXpride 549]

26 minutes ago, derpyhorndog said:

Thanks @Caddox, keep us posted. To be completely honest, I FlightAware’ed the shit out of your post history given your silence today and saw nothing to suggest we have reason to trust you on this other than your word in this thread, but I’m going to because you seem like a cool dude and you’re selling stuff I want to hear.

On a related note — as this is partly based on the assumption Caddox has legit sources and the timing of him getting to the point of supreme confidence this morning that it was a done deal and down to the lawyers and “final details” — I’m not entirely dismissing the possibility that the Urban agreed to terms in principle last night or this morning on the basis that UT provide some extreme cover for a few days. Reasons being to deflect the spotlight (which he may not have appreciated the intensity of until recently), let the tOSU or other school’s staff he’s planning to take or still courting get some breathing room until the end of the regular season, publicly project that Urban wasn’t lined up before Herman was even chopped, and give UT time to get their house in order with Herman (whether that’s simply firing him, negotiating a buyout now that they know they’ve got his replacement, helping him to scout out a soft landing, or all of the above) while dual-tracking the papering of contracts of Urban and his known staffers so everything is lined up for them to hit the ground running come late next weekend with only a couple of days to go before NSD 1. 

Anticipating some responses might be “why would UT agree to totally embarrassing itself by doing that / what we saw last night?” Only reasons I could think of it was non-negotiable requirement in Urban putting pen to paper (also would allow him to test UT’s commitment to providing him extreme control over the program before even setting foot in Belmont) and, if they know with certainly that getting Urban is the ultimate payout in making that deal, the temporary egg-on-face is far outweighed (and will be forgotten in an instant) due to the payout. Would also be a way to test whether leaks through BMDs could be truly cut off if CDC/Hartzell know the consequences and make a concerted effort. 

I fully realize m it reads like fan fiction are odds are it is, and not saying I subscribe to the theory, just that that misdirection and outright lies are commonplace in coaching searches and it’s not outside the realm of possibility. 

Or maybe he just said no.

[derpyhorndog 2557]

2 minutes ago, TXpride said:

Or maybe he just said no.

Yes, dipshit, that’s clearly the most likely. Thanks for stating the obvious. 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13119]

We’re USC, but worse. At least Helton seems to be a likable guy, who appears to have integrity and honor. Also, we have a lot more competition for our recruits. Basically, we’re fucked.

Did I do that right?

[DigglerontheHoof 21204]

Yep, was right about 300 pages ago:  Saban2.0   

Get ready for another 10 years wondering the cfb wilderness.  

It's amazing how the powers that be at our university step on their dicks w/ every goddamned step.  

[Schulz2.0 28965]

18 minutes ago, derpyhorndog said:

Yes, dipshit, that’s clearly the most likely. Thanks for stating the obvious. 

[TXpride 549]

36 minutes ago, derpyhorndog said:

Yes, dipshit, that’s clearly the most likely. Thanks for stating the obvious. 

Calm down little buddy. It is what it is. Time to move on.

[futureman 22491]

2 hours ago, SimonSays said:

CDC never had Meyer, probably wasn't even close to closing the deal at any point in the negotiations.

one of the only correct posts in this whole thread.  other than all of mine, of course. 

[PilotsError 2305]

I'm sure Rhule would say no, but at least make him have to choke on the offer before turning Texas down.  

[Alien Octopus 550]

1 hour ago, derpyhorndog said:

Thanks @Caddox, keep us posted. To be completely honest, I FlightAware’ed the shit out of your post history given your silence today and saw nothing to suggest we have reason to trust you on this other than your word in this thread, but I’m going to because you seem like a cool dude and you’re selling stuff I want to hear.

On a related note — as this is partly based on the assumption Caddox has legit sources and the timing of him getting to the point of supreme confidence this morning that it was a done deal and down to the lawyers and “final details” — I’m not entirely dismissing the possibility that the Urban agreed to terms in principle last night or this morning on the basis that UT provide some extreme cover for a few days. Reasons being to deflect the spotlight (which he may not have appreciated the intensity of until recently), let the tOSU or other school’s staff he’s planning to take or still courting get some breathing room until the end of the regular season, publicly project that Urban wasn’t lined up before Herman was even chopped, and give UT time to get their house in order with Herman (whether that’s simply firing him, negotiating a buyout now that they know they’ve got his replacement, helping him to scout out a soft landing, or all of the above) while dual-tracking the papering of contracts of Urban and his known staffers so everything is lined up for them to hit the ground running come late next weekend with only a couple of days to go before NSD 1. 

Anticipating some responses might be “why would UT agree to totally embarrassing itself by doing that / what we saw last night?” Only reasons I could think of it was non-negotiable requirement in Urban putting pen to paper (also would allow him to test UT’s commitment to providing him extreme control over the program before even setting foot in Belmont) and, if they know with certainly that getting Urban is the ultimate payout in making that deal, the temporary egg-on-face is far outweighed (and will be forgotten in an instant) due to the payout. Would also be a way to test whether leaks through BMDs could be truly cut off if CDC/Hartzell know the consequences and make a concerted effort. 

I fully realize m it reads like fan fiction are odds are it is, and not saying I subscribe to the theory, just that that misdirection and outright lies are commonplace in coaching searches and it’s not outside the realm of possibility. 

Or maybe it was all bullshit from the get go.

[nycHorn 3037]

I'm sure Rhule would say no, but at least make him have to choke on the offer before turning Texas down.  

[gmr548 16580]

Probably time to rename this the drama queen thread.

This. Urban said no. Maybe it was his health, maybe he couldn’t get his key guys out of Columbus, whatever. It was always a distinct possibility. Y’all love to crow about how much money Texas has and how everyone should get a call and be made to say no. Well, Meyer said no. Okay. Move on.

[futureman 22491]

the answer was always no.  lot of fake insiders in here trying to pretend like they knew something. 

[SydneyCarton 48112]

Welp. I’m definitely not doing a 60 page catch up for this bullshit. Guys. 
 

 

 

[UncleBuck 6454]

Or maybe he just said no.

Maybe if he did just say no, someone would be nice enough to report it. That information is being held, for whatever reason.

[DoobieWah 1448]

5 minutes ago, futureman said:

the answer was always no.  lot of fake insiders in here trying to pretend like they knew something. 

Did you have inside info or are you just crowing about guessing right?

Do we know for sure you even DID guess right?

You're no better than than the folks who were hoping for the best. 

Face it, all you did was what you always do and this time you may have been right. Doesn't make you less of a troll.

(Where's the salt?????)

[Gut Wagon 8083]

Ideally, if the "flirtation" with UM and every other potential candidate is indeed over, Herman would now reassess everything about his job performance (with CDC's help), realize he's going to have to be MUCH better and then start showing that improvement in leadership, recruiting and coaching. But I just don't have a good feeling that will happen. Obviously would love to be wrong.    

[Sgt Hulk 13791]

Honestly if any of thisnshit is true I wish urban would just tweet a video out already saying look I have more fuck you money than I can spend and I love flying to LA to work with fox. Fuck coaching. Appreciate the offer but I’m out.   Just say it already so I can move the fuck on 

[gmr548 16580]

Wouldn’t Herman actively be looking for another gig at this point? Surely he’s seen the writing on the wall. Why would he want to wait around now to get canned after next season? Or is it better for him to finish out his contract if they decide to keep him? If CDC’s backup, backup plan (Herman) takes another job soon...how embarrassing would that be?

Would you be looking for another job if you if, 1.) Your current job is the one you want and despite the tenuous situation, indisputably better than anything else is out there; and 2.) Your current employer would owe you $15 million to fire you?

[UncleBuck 6454]

Maybe if he did just say no, someone would be nice enough to report it. That information is being held, for whatever reason.

Just saw the Kirk Bohl’s and Brian Davis article, where they say Meyer HAS informed Texas he is not pursuing another job because of health reasons. This is confirmed?

[SydneyCarton 48112]

3 minutes ago, futureman said:

the answer was always no.  lot of fake insiders in here trying to pretend like they knew something. 

I know things. One thing I know is you’re a piece of shit. Just a worthless, no good, piece of shit poster. I actually feel bad for you, this is part of your personal identity and life. You’ve invested time and effort in being this way. People can react to you, get upset, and you’ve certainly annoyed me a time or two, no doubt. But at the end of the day the only real response anyone should have to you is pity. This is a fundamental part of your life, and it’s fucking pathetic. You are pathetic.

 

I’m sorry your life isnt better, man. Maybe you get out what you put in, and your should re-examine some things.  It’s never too late to make positive changes. But let’s be sure to leave this post on the important keynote that you are just fucking trash. You are the shit people have to peel off their boot. It isn’t possible for me to look down on you any more than I already do. 

[WinningIsHard 4044]

1 hour ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

We’re USC, but worse. At least Helton seems to be a likable guy, who appears to have integrity and honor. Also, we have a lot more competition for our recruits. Basically, we’re fucked.

Did I do that right?

Yeah..yeah you did. 

[futureman 22491]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I know things. One thing I know is you’re a piece of shit. Just a worthless, no good, piece of shit poster. I actually feel bad for you, this is part of your personal identity and life. You’ve invested time and effort in being this way. People can react to you, get upset, and you’ve certainly annoyed me a time or two, no doubt. But at the end of the day the only real response anyone should have to you is pity. This is a fundamental part of your life, and it’s fucking pathetic. You are pathetic.

 

I’m sorry your life isnt better, man. Maybe you get out what you put in, and your should re-examine some things.  It’s never too late to make positive changes. But let’s be sure to leave this post on the important keynote that you are just fucking trash. You are the shit people have to peel off their boot. It isn’t possible for me to look down on you any more than I already do. 

Lulz

[SydneyCarton 48112]

6 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

Ideally, if the "flirtation" with UM and every other potential candidate is indeed over, Herman would now reassess everything about his job performance (with CDC's help), realize he's going to have to be MUCH better and then start showing that improvement in leadership, recruiting and coaching. But I just don't have a good feeling that will happen. Obviously would love to be wrong.    

Yeah, outside of the fact that dumb fuck didn’t learn when he hired new coordinators and he isn’t learning now, recruiting is ruined. Ruined. So it doesn’t matter if he had a fucking revelation. Because there is no team and no talent incoming. 

Edited December 7, 2020 by SydneyCarton

[Rockethorn1978 6093]

Nothing was ever gonna happen till after the Kansas game. Enjoy your week, take a deep breath and quit listening to fat slobs who don’t have real jobs and decided to be “insider sources” for college football. They know nothing like all of us so don’t hang on their every word. There’s a 0% chance Herman will be retained.

I know nothing either but we all have the ability to see he sucks so I’m sure cdc does as well.

[BrazilHorn 6619]

3 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Yeah, outside of the fact that dumb fuck didn’t learn when he hired new coordinators and he isn’t learning now, recruiting is ruined. Ruined. So it doesn’t matter if he had a fucking revelation. Because there is no team and no talent incoming. 

This. Texas typically had talent to overcome deficiencies in coaching. 
Now it’s going to be lower ceiling/talent players and shitty coaching. 
It’s a great time to be a fan. 

[fattyflattie 4639]

Well. This fucking sucks.

[WinningIsHard 4044]

8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I know things. One thing I know is you’re a piece of shit. Just a worthless, no good, piece of shit poster. I actually feel bad for you, this is part of your personal identity and life. You’ve invested time and effort in being this way. People can react to you, get upset, and you’ve certainly annoyed me a time or two, no doubt. But at the end of the day the only real response anyone should have to you is pity. This is a fundamental part of your life, and it’s fucking pathetic. You are pathetic.

 

I’m sorry your life isnt better, man. Maybe you get out what you put in, and your should re-examine some things.  It’s never too late to make positive changes. But let’s be sure to leave this post on the important keynote that you are just fucking trash. You are the shit people have to peel off their boot. It isn’t possible for me to look down on you any more than I already do. 

This post should be a somber read but I gotta admit I laughed my ass off man. It’s all true but I’ll be damned if the way you worded it didn’t make it funny as fuck. 

[Longboard Horn 40378]

If it's true (although nothing has been confirmed) and Urban doesn't come, what the fuck do we do next? I really don't want to be stuck with Tom for another year... 

[Longboard Horn 40378]

[EZ$ 2105]

22 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

Ideally, if the "flirtation" with UM and every other potential candidate is indeed over, Herman would now reassess everything about his job performance (with CDC's help), realize he's going to have to be MUCH better and then start showing that improvement in leadership, recruiting and coaching. But I just don't have a good feeling that will happen. Obviously would love to be wrong.    

This is what I think. Worst case (which is what we’ll get), Herman stays and was scared straight by the “close” reality that he might lose his job and starts taking things more seriously. We kind of saw that in the KState game. 

[jdhorn92 1552]

9 hours ago, Dummy said:

I mean, Ohio State has been raping and pillaging our backyard for 5-star recruits and he's a member of tOSU administration. Him stringing us along is very good for that school and might help with flipping a certain 5-star generational talent QB that would play for his son in law. 

I’ve been saying the same thing. The longer it goes,  the worse it was for TX/Herman, which is likely what UM was doing.  I’ve been on the line of thinking for a couple weeks that he hates Herman so much that he was playing us , to hurt Herman.