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Notre Dame doesn’t scare anyone at all. They still are considered a blue blood but what they are showing right now is the pinnacle of their program. Having the ability to get to the big games but always falling short or by a lot when going against elite programs. Everyone knows that if Trevor Lawrence didn’t get Covid Notre Dame would be a 2 loss team. 
 

If you think Kelly is content where he is right now, that being just under the great coaches of college football, then yeah it make sense for him to stay at Notre Dame. But if he really wants to get to that next level, Texas is the place right now that offers the level up. The schedule is meh, we are upgrading the facilities, recruiting will be a much more easier and assistance will not leave because they are going to be paid great money. 

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1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

Sidebar - why would they use the sock that’s been around for like 12 years and that has already been linked to them to release info in a way that keeps the blame off of them for leaking something?   Their source is going to think, “Hmm ... I guess it wasn’t Nahlin.  It was that damn Jesus Shuttlesworth and the Big Cigar!  I’ll find out who you are someday!”

It seems more likely they’re using the fraud clickbait handle to peddle made up clickbait.  Then they can have plausible deniability to their rube subscribers.  “Well, he knew it was just a possibility and a fluid situation - that’s why he used Jesus Shuttlesworth.  You have to read between the lines and realize this is all very sensitive and certain handles have a meaning.  Now, pass the kool-aid.”

I don’t disagree with your logic, but talks are happening with Kelly. What they posted isn’t misdirection. Not saying Texas doesn’t wind up landing UM or actually lands Kelly, just saying that sock is being used for the purpose I stated earlier. 

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4 minutes ago, EE2B said:


Oh you can.....

 

3 minutes ago, Ryno said:

I’ll fight whoever said you can’t 

I don’t need my inbox inundated with stuff that starts like this...(lol). I did say I would consider it like 500 posts ago or whatever in this monster thread If we got UM. I did post that. Man, this is gonna be one crazy week. Absolutely crazy week. Sure frustrating and batshit rumors and whatever but it will be a hell of a ride!

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2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Yeah, except that’s a fucking lie. I said all along, in fact, that the odds were against Texas landing Herman. In this fucking thread. So go fuck yourself for attempting the revision. I’m enjoying your certitude regarding not getting Kelly though. I’m patient. We can watch things work out, but if Kelly winds up being the guy, I’m begging your handle every time I see it for being an uninformed, condescending cunt. I’ll start preemptively with this post I quoted since you’re wrong in it in the first place. 

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4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Yeah, except that’s a fucking lie. I said all along, in fact, that the odds were against Texas landing Herman. In this fucking thread. So go fuck yourself for attempting the revision. I’m enjoying your certitude regarding not getting Kelly though. I’m patient. We can watch things work out, but if Kelly winds up being the guy, I’m begging your handle every time I see it for being an uninformed, condescending cunt. I’ll start preemptively with this post I quoted since you’re wrong in it in the first place. 

Can feel the anger in the misspellings

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2 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

Can feel the anger in the misspellings

Me too. Me too. He probably has a giant button that he can push also that could gank the whole board without prejudice.  And he knows this. Hence, the barely concealed annoyance. And this is why I show my respect. 🤘🏼😃🤘🏼

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18 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I don’t disagree with your logic, but talks are happening with Kelly. What they posted isn’t misdirection. Not saying Texas doesn’t wind up landing UM or actually lands Kelly, just saying that sock is being used for the purpose I stated earlier. 

That is really disappointing. Kelly will be a disaster.

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https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1343396052494381058?s=20

 

Spoiler

As college football coaching changes, Urban Meyer isn't only one who could jump to NFL

Pete Thamel
Pete Thamel
Sun, December 27, 2020, 8:28 PM CST·6 min read
 
 

Urban Meyer’s name shot through the NFL stratosphere on Sunday after an ESPN report indicated at least two NFL franchises made initial contact about him being their next head coach.

Meyer becoming an NFL coach could become a reality over the next 10 days or so, as sources confirmed to Yahoo Sports that there has been outreach by multiple franchises to gauge Meyer’s interest.

The news broke on a day when Jacksonville solidified itself as perhaps the NFL’s most intriguing destination, as the 1-14 Jaguars are slated to get Clemson’s Trevor Lawrence with the top pick in the NFL draft and are expected to part ways with coach Doug Marrone. The general manager job is already open.

Will Meyer go to the NFL? Here’s the safest answer: Meyer certainly isn’t headed back to college, as college coaching is amid a sea change that could lead to an influx of coaches in college football exploring the NFL.

There are clear signs of Meyer’s interest in the NFL, as sources say he has been intrigued enough that he has researched the league through former players and friends, inquired about potential staff and is learning how the front-office infrastructure works.

Urban Meyer claps with a whistle in his mouth.
Then-Ohio State head coach Urban Meyer watches during warmups before the Rose Bowl against Washington on Jan. 1, 2019, in Pasadena, California. Meyer has been linked to NFL coaching jobs in recent days. (AP Photo/Marcio Jose Sanchez)

Meyer is an obsessive competitor, and sources close to him say that the NFL is intriguing because he’d be able to test himself at the highest level of football. Meyer’s favorite times in coaching have been amid rebuilds at Bowling Green and Utah, and there’s a chance an NFL job would allow him to overhaul the culture of an entire organization in a similar way.

There are drawbacks, however, that would slow down any notion that Meyer leaving his Fox television gig for the sideline is imminent. Meyer’s health, which led to him stepping down at Ohio State in 2018, remains a factor. He has a congenital arachnoid cyst in his brain, which required surgery in 2014 and haunted him throughout the 2018 season, where the image of him doubled over in pain on the sideline still lingers. Meyer also truly enjoys his analyst role for Fox, as a switch back to the sideline would mark a distinct lifestyle change and risk his legacy as one of the best coaches of his era.

How college football coaching is changing

Why would the NFL have more appeal than a job like Texas or USC? Few jobs in sports promise to change as precipitously as college football coaching in the next 12 months. The absolute control that so many of these coaches coveted is now waning, with the transfer portal, one-time transfer exemption and Name Image and Likeness rules all shifting the power away from the coaches. This isn’t an endorsement or indictment of that shift, just acknowledging facts.

No college coach, given truth serum, would say they truly love to recruit. It’s a part of the job that is more tolerated and endured than enjoyed. The uptick in transfers and freedom of player movement means that not only will coaches be worried about luring the next recruiting class, but also need to stay locked in on the constant recruitment of their own players. While the benefits of Name Image and Likeness — the ways for athletes to profit off their name, expected to be legalized by the NCAA in the upcoming months — are slated to be solely for athletes to figure out, there’s little doubt that orchestrating deals for players is going to become a big part of the job description for college coaches and programs.

The other aspect coaches are privately dreading will be the agents who help arrange these NIL deals for players. Is the NIL agent sitting in on the home visit and quizzing the coach about the local car dealership’s generosity a new reality? Probably, and that’s not going to sit well with the old guard.

The other factor that can’t be overlooked as theses worlds intersect is the schematic crossover between the sports. Spread offenses with running quarterbacks have gone from the bane of NFL talent evaluators to the heartbeat of the league’s most successful offenses.

Will college coaches jump to the NFL?

We did a list a few weeks back of potential college coaches who could end up in the NFL. There have been two college coaches the past two seasons who’ve made the leap — then-USC OC Kliff Kingsbury and Baylor’s Matt Rhule. Prior to Kingsbury being hired in 2019, there was a four-year gap from 2015-18 for the NFL hiring a college coach. (That was Bill O’Brien jumping from Penn State to the Houston Texans in 2014.)

The days of the NFL not plucking a college coach for four years are long over. The combination of the changing nature of the college job and the shallow pool of NFL candidates is going to keep the NFL engaged in the college ranks.

“I think the reason we’ll see more college guys go to the NFL is the pool of pro coaches ready to be head coaches is so much smaller,” said an industry source. “Guys like Matt Campbell, Dan Mullen and Pat Fitzgerald, those kinds of guys will be in the mix now.”

Will they go? No one is sure. Campbell hasn’t worked a day in pro football. Mullen can’t be thrilled with the NCAA’s recent ruling against him and Florida, which includes a one-year show cause penalty for recruiting violations. Fitzgerald has resisted more than a half-dozen overtures before. Will this time be any different? The NFL is still fascinated by Lincoln Riley, holds a deep respect for David Shaw and James Franklin came close to the Texans’ job back in 2014. There are plenty of options.

We could see seven or more NFL head coaching jobs open, as the Detroit Lions, Atlanta Falcons and Houston Texans are open and will likely be joined by the Jacksonville Jaguars, New York Jets, Los Angeles Chargers and Philadelphia Eagles. And while Meyer’s name will get the juice, other college candidates will certainly emerge.

As the college football landscape continues to professionalize, the most logical step is for college coaches to simply go to the pros in the next few seasons following Kingsbury and Rhule.

 

 

 

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the thing is, we really don't know how good bama is this year.  of course they are all-universe, but they were all-universe when they lost 3 times in the playoffs.

bama are 6-3 in the college football playoff.  they are not immortal at this level.  they can be beaten.

and this is not the 12/13 or 18/19 domer.   it could be a 2-score game.  but domer is covering.  and i would not be surprised for bama to have score last to win.

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1 hour ago, George Clooney said:

Kelly likely knows ND can’t realistically get better than what they are right now under his watch. Also, he saw in person in 2016 just how much easier it’d be to recruit at Texas. If someone is at all hamstrung at their current job, then they’ll look elsewhere. Forget brands/title history; everyone on here stupidly scoffed at Jimbo for moving from FSU to A&M when he was actually doing himself a favor by making winning titles easier.

It's easier to win titles at aggy than FSU?

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