Urban Meyer or bust

[bad_teammate 13132]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

My second candidate would be Bob Stoops and I am not kidding at all.

An immediate and massive upgrade over Herman for sure.

[UTEX_ME 4754]

18 minutes ago, Getafix said:

FCB.

[taybo20 2815]

Feeling less and less likely. Maybe that’s good because I haven’t been betting well lately

[ztejas 43262]

Just now, Horn Dogg said:

I’m all for the Urban hire if we can swing it, but I just wanted to point something out.  There are a lot of mentions of him winning 3 titles, which is true.  I strongly believe that would be 2 titles if we hadn’t been fucked by the big 12 tiebreaker in 2008.  

Ok, carry on, let’s get Urban in here now!

[victory88 5654]

Fuck it throw $15 mil at him.  

Edited November 30, 2020 by victory88

[BabaYaga 15205]

9 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

TFB being a downer per usual

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I wanted to recap our past month’s notes on the Urban Meyer possibility.

***Back on October 19th (here) we noted that some back channel communication between Texas and Urban Meyer’s camp had begun. Specifically said…

I know there has been a lot of twitter talk about the desire by some Texas fans to see Texas hire Urban Meyer.

Of course much of this is premature. Herman still has a path to redemption – make it to the Big 12 championship and win.

But I have now heard from multiple folks that back channel donor talk dealing with Urban has already begun.

***The very next day on October 20th (here) we added the following…

However, another piece of second hand info I received is that there is already a behind the scenes number being floated from the Urban camp. That number I’ve heard is in the 10 million dollar range.

***I’ll skip ahead to our November 2nd update (here) where we confirmed the above number and added a note regarding Urban speaking to former staff members about the possibility of coming with him to Texas.

Received additional confirmation that Meyer’s number is in the 10 million dollar range.

Was also told that while not necessary specific to Texas, Meyer has been reaching out to some former assistants to gauge their interest in joining him if he did take another job.

One source told me that  Kerry Coombs, known for his DB development, would not likely join Urban. I personally think that’s a pretty big blow.

I asked the source how likely it would be that Urban would take the Texas job, if offered. Was told, “I know he’s considering it but don’t think it’s a slam dunk. Money talks though, of course”.

***By November 6th (here) we were getting some mixed signals regarding the likelihood of Urban’s interest but it was definitely the first time we were hearing people say he wasn’t likely to take the job.

***On Saturday, as we noted (here), much of what we were hearing is that things were less and less likely to happen with Urban Meyer.

***Yesterday, I was told that Herman had requested a meeting with CDC. But it sounds like this meeting may have been more about recruiting support. However, I imagine that’s his way of feeling things out.

***Was also told that the offer to Urban had gone up to 12 million per year for 5 years. Was not able to get a second confirmation on this one (the above information is also from at least two sources).

***I would say my most optimistic source currently is saying the chances of landing Urban are at around 40%. A couple others I have spoken to would put that number lower.

***Was told that if you see something happen very quickly regarding Tom and Texas, then “you know you got Urban”. If not, then they are still deciding whether there is a strong enough second candidate to make the move. I have heard there is a second candidate being vetted but I am unsure who that is. Again, the issue is if you don’t land Urban, can you build clear consensus for someone else when you consider other factors?

 

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

1) Ohio State fans and worse media are pretty funny about this. "LOLZ Texas thinks they can get Meyer, there's no way, he doesn't want to coach again and he has health concerns that will keep him from ever coaching. Plus he'd never want to go to UT/Austin and he doesn't want to coach in the era of the transfer portal and name/likeness compensation.....

...but if he does LOLZ he'll get whipped by Ryan Day because he's old."

So we shouldn't go after him because of every reason you can think of, but even if he does it doesn't matter to Ohio State. Right. Whistling past the graveyard. 

2) I keep seeing people saying that he retired over health concerns. Not so. At least, not entirely. He also retired because he felt like the Ohio State administration threw him under the bus during the Zach Smith ordeal. There were a LOT of Ohio State people, ranging from internet dipshits to BMDs to people in the administration, that felt like Meyer's suspension was scapegoating him. Meyer felt that too. So this idea that it's just his poor broken brain that has him on the sideline-- nope. 

[David Dennison 18646]

2 minutes ago, Horn Dogg said:

I’m all for the Urban hire if we can swing it, but I just wanted to point something out.  There are a lot of mentions of him winning 3 titles, which is true.  I strongly believe that would be 2 titles if we hadn’t been fucked by the big 12 tiebreaker in 2008.  

Ok, carry on, let’s get Urban in here now!

[936horn 910]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

12 years later it still hurts.

[BabaYaga 15205]

2 minutes ago, victory88 said:

Fuck it throw $15 mil at him.  I don't give a shit at this point...

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

Seems obvious that Urban is interested but not totally sure he's ready to coach again. 

Also, Texas will keep offering whatever it takes to get him.

Don't go to the 2nd candidate until Urban says no at least 10 times. 

[Gravy Train 974]

9 minutes ago, Horn Dogg said:

I’m all for the Urban hire if we can swing it, but I just wanted to point something out.  There are a lot of mentions of him winning 3 titles, which is true.  I strongly believe that would be 2 titles if we hadn’t been fucked by the big 12 tiebreaker in 2008.  

Ok, carry on, let’s get Urban in here now!

Ironically, unfucking the parity, substandard officiating and illogical scheduling (round robin + CCG) of the B12 might be the most significant agenda a new coach should bring to the program.

[derpyhorndog 2554]

55 minutes ago, ztejas said:

At least one of his daughters just got back from Columbus with "family". Assuming Urban was there for Thanksgiving then flew back to LA. Guessing he wouldn't fly anywhere but here in the meantime. 

39 minutes ago, Sir Ulrich said:

Also think Shelley mentioned them going to Florida this weekend so that may be a location for the UT brass to meet with them. 

Here's a private plane with trips yesterday from Columbus, OH --> Austin and, after a one-hour pit stop, from Austin --> Orlando, FL.

Registered owner is Columbus-based real estate firm Joseph Skilkin & Co., presumably for use largely by Steve Skilken, President of the company who was an All-American diver at tOSU (and appears to be a significant donor to athletics - see page 37). Would cut against the narrative that UT BSDs are flying Urban around, but perhaps the Skilken and Meyer families are close given through ties in the tOSU athletic department and Columbus area and UT is footing the bill for the charter. 

[victory88 5654]

1 minute ago, derpyhorndog said:

Here's a private plane with trips yesterday from Columbus, OH --> Austin and, after a one-hour pit stop, from Austin --> Orlando, FL.

Registered owner is Columbus-based real estate firm Joseph Skilkin & Co., presumably for use largely by Steve Skilken, President of the company who was an All-American diver at tOSU (and appears to be a significant donor to athletics - see page 37). Would cut against the narrative that UT BSDs are flying Urban around, but perhaps the Skilken and Meyer families are close given through ties in the tOSU athletic department and Columbus area and UT is footing the bill for the charter. 

This is better investigative rumor work than OB, 24/7 or TFB.  Pay this man his $9.95!

[orangecat92 306]

On 11/5/2020 at 7:34 AM, Macanudo said:

You think the dog sleds from Univiakaakaak, Tlikatiakit and Vladville  have gotten to Anchorage or Fairbanks yet?

?

[GreenspointTexas 9559]

Do we still want UM if he isnt 100% totally invested in turning Texas around?

[RollLeft 5039]

18 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Well it's an absolutely terrible idea. If only because he will insist on giving his dumbfuck brother a job. 

He's a troll that finds meaning by being contrarian.  Best to put him on ignore.

[BurntOrange&White 39567]

Just now, GreenspointTexas said:

Do we still want UM if he isnt 100% totally invested in turning Texas around?

A 90% invested Meyer > 97% of coaches in cfb rn

[DanTheHorn 4896]

26 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I have no idea why anyone thinks that some part-time, in-between gig on the Fox desk would keep him from taking a new job sooner than Dec 19th. 

Does he have a buyout with that contract? What's the most it could be with 2 weeks left? $100k? I seriously doubt it would take much more than Urban calling his boss and saying "hey I quit so, find someone else on Saturday I guess"

People are acting like he's the sitting secretary of state or a chancellor at some big-name university or some shit.

@Burt Macklin you just barely beat me to it 😁 guess we had the same breaking point over that nonsense.

People = Fuck Chip Brown and that is it.

FCB already has an agenda here and it probably due to getting shutout on some info after feeling he did CDC a favor by publishing the Eyes of Texas info for CDC.

[orangecat92 306]

Look at the dollars...high flyer like urb is worth $30 million.  Can easily add 30 to 40 more during next six years.   70 million x 4 % per year is over 2.5 times what they have now. 

[David Dennison 18646]

Just now, RollLeft said:

He's a troll that finds meaning by being contrarian.  Best to put him on ignore.

I was 100% serious. He built OU into a program that is light years ahead of Texas. They are about to win their 14th Big 12 championship.

We're stuck on three and have been for over a decade.

[Duane Moore 5236]

16 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

1) Ohio State fans and worse media are pretty funny about this. "LOLZ Texas thinks they can get Meyer, there's no way, he doesn't want to coach again and he has health concerns that will keep him from ever coaching. Plus he'd never want to go to UT/Austin and he doesn't want to coach in the era of the transfer portal and name/likeness compensation.....

...but if he does LOLZ he'll get whipped by Ryan Day because he's old."

So we shouldn't go after him because of every reason you can think of, but even if he does it doesn't matter to Ohio State. Right. Whistling past the graveyard. 

2) I keep seeing people saying that he retired over health concerns. Not so. At least, not entirely. He also retired because he felt like the Ohio State administration threw him under the bus during the Zach Smith ordeal. There were a LOT of Ohio State people, ranging from internet dipshits to BMDs to people in the administration, that felt like Meyer's suspension was scapegoating him. Meyer felt that too. So this idea that it's just his poor broken brain that has him on the sideline-- nope. 

To be fair, I have never lived there, but as an outsider I will never understand the high regard in which Ohioans hold their state.  I've been to Cleveland and Cincinnati and just don't see the appeal.  It's gotta be like bottom 5 states in the country for me.

[derpyhorndog 2554]

9 minutes ago, derpyhorndog said:

Here's a private plane with trips yesterday from Columbus, OH --> Austin and, after a one-hour pit stop, from Austin --> Orlando, FL.

Registered owner is Columbus-based real estate firm Joseph Skilkin & Co., presumably for use largely by Steve Skilken, President of the company who was an All-American diver at tOSU (and appears to be a significant donor to athletics - see page 37). Would cut against the narrative that UT BSDs are flying Urban around, but perhaps the Skilken and Meyer families are close given through ties in the tOSU athletic department and Columbus area and UT is footing the bill for the charter. 

Seeing now that this plane made another same-day trip from Columbus --> Austin --> Columbus a week prior (11/18). 

[BurntOrange&White 39567]

1 minute ago, derpyhorndog said:

Seeing now that this plane made another same-day trip from Columbus --> Austin --> Columbus a week prior (11/18). 

Urban is in good standing with a lot of people at Ohio St and I believe still collects a paycheck from them. I wouldn’t be surprised if their big money guys still let him use their aircraft to fly privately as part of his agreement. 

[stork642 4498]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Urban is in good standing with a lot of people at Ohio St and I believe still collects a paycheck from them. I wouldn’t be surprised if their big money guys still let him use their aircraft to fly privately as part of his agreement. 

Where does Urban’s agent live?  Could be him working out the negotiations and then to Florida to meet Urban. 

[Landomatic 3813]

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Urban is in good standing with a lot of people at Ohio St and I believe still collects a paycheck from them. I wouldn’t be surprised if their big money guys still let him use their aircraft to fly privately as part of his agreement. 

To get a gig coaching at another school?  Doubt it.

[LTtxfan 48952]

30 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Can he give Lincoln Riley's dumbfuck brother a job please?

No... He's all yours ponies     👊😎

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

19 minutes ago, Gravy Train said:

Ironically, unfucking the parity, substandard officiating and illogical scheduling (round robin + CCG) of the B12 might be the most significant agenda a new coach should bring to the program.

prepare for two disappointments, then, regardless of who we hire

[RVC2005 47]

1 minute ago, Landomatic said:

To get a gig coaching at another school?  Doubt it.

Ohio State people did not want him to do this because of the recruiting issues it will cause for them. 

[DanTheHorn 4896]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Urban is in good standing with a lot of people at Ohio St and I believe still collects a paycheck from them. I wouldn’t be surprised if their big money guys still let him use their aircraft to fly privately as part of his agreement. 

So if he is still having to use donor aircraft Texas can now say fuck using someone else's have your own. We all know that Urban is what Texas needs but that is a lot of not my money that is about to be spent. Why is it that even though it is not my money it feels a little overpriced when we know winning pays for itself.

[RabidM 2664]

Would we really fly in Meyer before firing Herman? If Herman is doing a presser today, that's not good for our odds with Meyer. Signing day is coming up fast. 

[Handcruser 2805]

Urban is in good standing with a lot of people at Ohio St and I believe still collects a paycheck from them. I wouldn’t be surprised if their big money guys still let him use their aircraft to fly privately as part of his agreement. 

Yeah but if he needs to come to austin (which he doesn’t right now) a plane will be supplied for him.

He’s not saying “ok, let me call for my plane and I’ll let you know when it’s available”.

If he’s flying back and forth to LA then yeah, you probably right.


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[ztejas 43262]

From Sportsline.

Via SportsLine oddsmakers: Who will be the Texas football coach to open the 2021 season?

• Tom Herman +100
• Current NCAA coach/assistant +250
• Urban Meyer +500
• Current NFL coach/assistant +900

[Sgt Hulk 13642]

1 minute ago, ztejas said:

From Sportsline.

Via SportsLine oddsmakers: Who will be the Texas football coach to open the 2021 season?

• Tom Herman +100
• Current NCAA coach/assistant +250
• Urban Meyer +500
• Current NFL coach/assistant +900

explain this to me like im 5 

[Brothahorn 10085]

34 minutes ago, SwanderedTalent said:

1) Ohio State fans and worse media are pretty funny about this. "LOLZ Texas thinks they can get Meyer, there's no way, he doesn't want to coach again and he has health concerns that will keep him from ever coaching. Plus he'd never want to go to UT/Austin and he doesn't want to coach in the era of the transfer portal and name/likeness compensation.....

...but if he does LOLZ he'll get whipped by Ryan Day because he's old."

So we shouldn't go after him because of every reason you can think of, but even if he does it doesn't matter to Ohio State. Right. Whistling past the graveyard. 

2) I keep seeing people saying that he retired over health concerns. Not so. At least, not entirely. He also retired because he felt like the Ohio State administration threw him under the bus during the Zach Smith ordeal. There were a LOT of Ohio State people, ranging from internet dipshits to BMDs to people in the administration, that felt like Meyer's suspension was scapegoating him. Meyer felt that too. So this idea that it's just his poor broken brain that has him on the sideline-- nope. 

Shiiiiiiit, the opportunity to get whipped by Day in a playoff game is 5000x better than getting whipped by TCU in a regular game. Is there one true Longhorn fan who would turn that down? I mean besides Randolph and that boot chick.

Edited November 30, 2020 by Brothahorn

[IDIOTsavant 8437]

Just now, Sgt Hulk said:

explain this to me like im 5 

• Tom Herman 1-1
• Current NCAA coach/assistant 2.5-1
• Urban Meyer 5-1
• Current NFL coach/assistant 9-1

 

[936horn 910]

2 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

explain this to me like im 5 

Herman is the betting favorite to be our coach next year per that

[ztejas 43262]

1 minute ago, Sgt Hulk said:

explain this to me like im 5 

Their odds makers give Herman staying a 50% chance and Urban to Texas a 20% chance. 

I'm not sure if those bets are actually posted anywhere - neither of my books does anything close to head coaching futures.

I would hesitantly say it's a good sign that oddsmakers are coming out with actual numbers for the scenario that aren't super far-fetched.

[hornfromdallas 334]

Just now, IDIOTsavant said:

• Tom Herman 1-1
• Current NCAA coach/assistant 2.5-1
• Urban Meyer 5-1
• Current NFL coach/assistant 9-1

 

still dont understand break it down even more plz

ive never gotten into sports betting because this + - numbers  ish is wack just let me pick a straight winner idgaf about a number

[Helobious 9480]

2 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

explain this to me like im 5 

According to Vegas Meyer isn’t likely to be our coach, while Herman is a virtual lock to return next year.

[Sgt Hulk 13642]

Fuck Vegas

[936horn 910]

1 minute ago, hornfromdallas said:

still dont understand break it down even more plz

ive never gotten into sports betting because this + - numbers  ish is wack just let me pick a straight winner idgaf about a number

It's based on a bet of $100. If you bet $100 on Herman and he is, you get $200 (your initial bet plus $100). Meyer would be $600 ($500 winnings plus initial $100 bet)

[BurntOrange&White 39567]

 

[ztejas 43262]

1 minute ago, Helobious said:

According to Vegas Meyer isn’t likely to be our coach, while Herman is a virtual lock to return next year.

[Nivek 16843]

I got accepted to UT within a month or 2 of the VY national championship, was there during the Colt years and moved from Austin the summer of 2010. Just accepted a job in Austin and am moving back at the end of the year. I really just wanted to say "you're welcome", and I'm sorry for the last decade.

Sorry bro. I got a cat in 2002. He died in spring 2010 along with Texas Football. I should dig him up.

[ztejas 43262]

4 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Fuck Vegas

Those aren't Vegas odds afaik. Just what a few heads were willing to publish.

I doubt any casino or legit book is dumb enough to post Urban to Texas at +500.

[closetohumping 17386]

10 minutes ago, hornfromdallas said:

still dont understand break it down even more plz

ive never gotten into sports betting because this + - numbers  ish is wack just let me pick a straight winner idgaf about a number

If you bet 100.00 on Herm you'll win 100.00  You have to bet 500.00 on Urban  to win 100.

 

 

 

ABOVE IS WRONG.  Bet 100 to win 500 on Urban, meaning he's 5 to 1.  I think that means he's in play though

Edited November 30, 2020 by closetohumping

[freyguy 4245]

42 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

My second candidate would be Bob Stoops and I am not kidding at all.

 

[936horn 910]

Just now, closetohumping said:

If you bet 100.00 on Herm you'll win 100.00  You have to bet 500.00 on Urban  to win 100.

other way around on Meyer. It's +500 not -500, thus 100 bet on Meyer wins 500.

[Helobious 9480]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

50% = virtual lock in my book. It makes more sense when you think about how all this frenzy started with Urban’s wife ambiguously replying to random tweets. There’s nothing of any substance. Futureman’s anus has hope yet. 
 

I won’t go as far as saying I’ll fist myself if Meyer is hired but the safe bet (literally) is on Herman returning.