Urban Meyer or bust

[closetohumping 17380]

1 minute ago, 936horn said:

other way around on Meyer. It's +500 not -500, thus 100 bet on Meyer wins 500.

Oh shit, I've gambled for 15 years.  Yep, poor wording on my part.  Means Meyer is a long shot, but still he's in play.

[ztejas 43244]

7 minutes ago, hornfromdallas said:

still dont understand break it down even more plz

ive never gotten into sports betting because this + - numbers  ish is wack just let me pick a straight winner idgaf about a number

To get the odds add 100 to the +number and divide 100 by that number.

So going down the list:

100/200 = 50%

100/350 = 28.6%

100/600 = 16.67% (I did it wrong when I said 20% - I'm sure some asshole here will correct me)

100/1000 = 10%

[Bevo 13493]

1 minute ago, Helobious said:

50% = virtual lock in my book. It makes more sense when you think about how all this frenzy started with Urban’s wife ambiguously replying to random tweets. There’s nothing of any substance. Futureman’s anus has hope yet. 
 

I won’t go as far as saying I’ll fist myself if Meyer is hired but the safe bet (literally) is on Herman returning. 

I'll take the "unsafe" bet. I bet Herman is fired in 2020. How much are we talking?

[Huckleberry 32685]

3 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

If you bet 100.00 on Herm you'll win 100.00  You have to bet 500.00 on Urban  to win 100.

This is exactly wrong. Second part at least. That's what -500 would mean, not +500.

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

You degenerate junkies

[ztejas 43244]

2 minutes ago, Helobious said:

50% = virtual lock in my book.

You post a lot of stupid shit but this might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen from you.

[Huckleberry 32685]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

To get the odds add 100 to the +number and divide 100 by that number.

So going down the list:

100/200 = 50%

100/350 = 28.6%

100/600 = 16.67% (I did it wrong when I said 20% - I'm sure some asshole here will correct me)

100/1000 = 10%

And it will always add up to more than 100% because building those nice casinos costs money. 

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/8239451/ohio-state-coach-urban-meyer-new-commitment-balancing-work-family-life
 

an interesting article. Seems like deja vu

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

If we are willing to spend 12 million per year on the right coach, UM isn’t the only right coach that should be attainable for that price. Maybe we offer a little less to a current coach that has a buyout attached to their contract, maybe we eat the buyout if it’s only a few million. 
but this shouldn’t be an Urban or Tom binary choice, with urban doing the choosing.

[Fud 9543]

39 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Do we still want UM if he isnt 100% totally invested in turning Texas around?

He's 100% invested in improving his legacy 

[Red Five 40593]

9 minutes ago, Helobious said:

50% = virtual lock in my book.

This explains a lot. 

[The Beast 584]

Anybody started a Fire Urban Meyer thread?

[Burt Macklin 18988]

6 minutes ago, Helobious said:

50% = virtual lock in my book. It makes more sense when you think about how all this frenzy started with Urban’s wife ambiguously replying to random tweets. There’s nothing of any substance. Futureman’s anus has hope yet. 
 

I won’t go as far as saying I’ll fist myself if Meyer is hired but the safe bet (literally) is on Herman returning. 

All your posts in this thread have been horribly off. 50% is nowhere near a virtual lock, and coaching hire odds swing drastically. Odds posted this early are meaningless.  You'd be a moron to bet on Herman returning. 

You're also completely wrong on how this started. It's been consistently reported by almost every outlet that covers UT that Herman would be fired if he didn't win the conference. Multiple outlets are reporting that we have advanced in talks with Meyer and offered him 5/60. Gerry Hamilton said he as an agent and coaching source that both think Meyer takes the job.  This is not all based no Shelly Meyer's twitter. 

[TexasEd 8062]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

Yep.

Here's how the conversation goes.

Urban: "I'm leaving to become a coach again."

TV Exec: "OK."

Urban: "Bye."

TV Exec: "Later. Good luck."

Yep, He probably has 1) an anti compete agreement so he does not go to another network, and 2) a no buy-out clause if he takes a HC job.

[jinx 2635]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

This explains a lot. 

It's kind of like a coin flip that is a virtual lock to land on heads.  Or kicking off both halves.

[Boogaloo 268]

Maybe Art Briles has entered the fray?? Exclusive report below

Here's a 1979 Chevrolet El Camino with trips yesterday from Mt Vernon TX --> Austin and, after a one-hour pit stop at an I-35 Loves Truck stop parking lot to associate with lot lizards, from Austin --> Mt Vernon TX .

Registered owner is Wayco-based glory hole booth installation contractor Happy Hands of the Brazos Inc. ,presumably for use largely by a Chester T. (the) Molester , Head Jizz Mopper of the company who was a custodian at Floyd Casey stadium during Baylor's great football & raping teams of 2009-2013 .  This would cut against the narrative that UT BSDs are driving Art around, but perhaps the Chester T. Molestor and Briles families are close given through ties in the Baylor custodial department and Wayco area and UT is footing the bill for gas, smokes and possibly the lot lizards time. 

[Texas Wahoo 3383]

Just now, TexasEd said:

Yep, He probably has 1) an anti compete agreement so he does not go to another network, and 2) a no buy-out clause if he takes a HC job.

But would he really leave Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, and Reggie Bush in the lurch like that?  

[Scholz 11923]

Just now, Texas Wahoo said:

But would he really leave Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, and Reggie Bush in the lurch like that?  

Still constitutes a quorum of douchebags.

[Helobious 9477]

15 minutes ago, ztejas said:

You post a lot of stupid shit but this might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen from you.

I look at it as if he’s still here now after all his failings and turmoil, he’s gotta come back. Factor in the high buyout & Meyer not even sure if he’s going to coach again, I’m firmly in the Herman’s returning camp. 
 

I know not to put too much stock into Vegas odds. Biden’s gambling odds went from 70% to 24% and back up to 65% in the span of a few hours on election night. I was rightfully flamed for calling the election in Trump’s favor that night largely based on the initial dip. But this is different imo, it’s much less dynamic a situation than election results rolling in. No CR it’s just the most recent example of me getting burned based on Vegas odds.

Edited November 30, 2020 by Helobious

[Bevo Num1 1004]

Or kicking off both halves.

This is a virtual lock if Charlie Strong is calling it.

[TwiceHorn 31184]

1 hour ago, Fud said:

School administration has also had some bad hires, including Mackovic and Strong. 

Yeah, Dodds had a few big wins but a lot more big blahs.

I haven't ever seen much about Mackovic's hiring or who was responsible, but it's kind of hard to believe that after unduly influencing the hiring of Akers and McWiliams, they all of a sudden sat back and let Dodds do his thing.  Like the Strong hire, I think it might have been a case of there not being any particularly strong available candidates (other than the Saaaabaaaannnnnnn rumor) to rustle the BMD jimmies.

And maybe Patterson was enough of an outsider and asshole to just ignore the BMD, which seems likely and seems like a reason he's not here anymore.

I might guess that CDC will listen to them and make them feel pretty important without letting them run shit.  I may be totally wrong, but I am pretty optimistic about CDC.

An example would be the WBB cabal.  They're not the university-wide BMD, but the "Jody/Plonsky cabal" was quite influential within the sphere of WBB and had created an expectation that male coaches were off the table.  And CDC has flaunted that with the WBB and Softball hires (the whole "feminine mystique" thing extended to a lesser extent to softball), made stunningly terrific hires, and not overly rustled the panties of the cabal.

Edited November 30, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[HornsOverIthaca 2333]

Just now, Bevo Num1 said:

 

 

This is a virtual lock if Charlie Strong is calling it.

 

If that happens again I think I’ll have to break something.

[Deej 76511]

20 minutes ago, Helobious said:

 Futureman’s anus has hope yet. 
 

Joke's on us. Futureman has been fisting his own ass for years. 

[Landomatic 3813]

12 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If we are willing to spend 12 million per year on the right coach, UM isn’t the only right coach that should be attainable for that price. Maybe we offer a little less to a current coach that has a buyout attached to their contract, maybe we eat the buyout if it’s only a few million. 
but this shouldn’t be an Urban or Tom binary choice, with urban doing the choosing.

Okay, who else then?

[Mantis Toboggan, MD 1499]

I look at it as if he’s still here now after all his failings and turmoil, he’s gotta come back. Factor in the high buyout & Meyer not even sure if he’s going to coach again, I’m firmly in the Herman’s returning camp. 
 
I know not to put too much stock into Vegas odds. Biden’s gambling odds went from 70% to 24% and back up to 65% in the span of a few hours on election night. I was rightfully flamed for calling the election in Trump’s favor that night largely based on the initial dip. But this is different imo, it’s much less dynamic a situation than election results rolling in. No CR it’s just the most recent example of me getting burned based on Vegas odds.

Those aren’t Vegas odds, they are CBS sports line odds. That isn’t live action, it is content creators at a website making something up.

[Red Five 40593]

4 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I look at it as if he’s still here now after all his failings and turmoil, he’s gotta come back. 

Is this like a much more complex and nuanced futureman bit that you're doing? How are you so consistently wrong about everything? 

[Helobious 9477]

1 minute ago, Mantis Toboggan, MD said:

 

Those aren’t Vegas odds, they are CBS sports line odds. That isn’t live action, it is content creators at a website making something up.

 

Oh.

[Alien Octopus 499]

14 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If we are willing to spend 12 million per year on the right coach, UM isn’t the only right coach that should be attainable for that price. Maybe we offer a little less to a current coach that has a buyout attached to their contract, maybe we eat the buyout if it’s only a few million. 
but this shouldn’t be an Urban or Tom binary choice, with urban doing the choosing.

Why offer less? Fuck it, let’s flex.

[Pato del Muerto 52322]

2 minutes ago, Landomatic said:

Okay, who else then?

Above my pay grade. But there can’t only be one, and it’s a guy not currently coaching. 

[futureman 22411]

3 hours ago, immamac said:

If he fists his own asshole as promised there will be no changes. 

I’m a man of my word. 

[troph 24548]

anything new?  only 10 or so new pages of material so I assume nothing since the "business as usual today" info that came out.  need a sticky on hard information.  ok back to the nuance of calculating gambling odds.

[Majorcholas 507]

‘Member when we were getting saban?

i hope it’s not blue balls again....

[markstanco 12489]

27 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

 

 

ABOVE IS WRONG.  Bet 100 to win 500 on Urban, meaning he's 5 to 1.  I think that means he's in play though

Sweet.  So a BMD should place a 5 million dollar bet on Meyer if he knows the outcome.  Boom, mensa bill is paid. 

[closetohumping 17380]

10 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I haven't ever seen much about Mackovic's hiring or who was responsible, but it's kind of hard to believe that after unduly influencing the hiring of Akers and McWiliams, they all of a sudden sat back and let Dodds do his thing.  Like the Strong hire, I think it might have been a case of there not being any particularly strong available candidates (other than the Saaaabaaaannnnnnn rumor). 

And maybe Patterson was enough of an outsider and asshole to just ignore the BMD.

I might guess that CDC will listen to them and make them feel pretty important without letting them run shit.  I may be totally wrong, but I am pretty optimistic about CDC.

Pretty much.

[Foosters 17691]

7 minutes ago, Landomatic said:

Okay, who else then?

Bill Cowher

[HenryJames 65868]

12 minutes ago, Deej said:

Joke's on us. Futureman has been fisting his own ass for years. 

[Landomatic 3813]

8 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Above my pay grade. But there can’t only be one, and it’s a guy not currently coaching. 

Well, there are only two other active coaches who are even remotely in the ballpark and neither are going anywhere.

[Kel Varnsen 8425]

Jon Gruden?

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Is Texas still paying Charlie strong to not be there?

[TexArcher 37455]

14 minutes ago, Deej said:

Joke's on us. Futureman has been fisting his own ass for years. 

Yeah, it didn't seem like much of an imposition to him. 

Edited November 30, 2020 by TexArcher

[The Dude 1244]

Just now, Kel Varnsen said:

Jon Gruden?

Settle down Red

[Parliament 14112]

1) Ohio State fans and worse media are pretty funny about this. "LOLZ Texas thinks they can get Meyer, there's no way, he doesn't want to coach again and he has health concerns that will keep him from ever coaching. Plus he'd never want to go to UT/Austin and he doesn't want to coach in the era of the transfer portal and name/likeness compensation.....
...but if he does LOLZ he'll get whipped by Ryan Day because he's old."
So we shouldn't go after him because of every reason you can think of, but even if he does it doesn't matter to Ohio State. Right. Whistling past the graveyard. 
2) I keep seeing people saying that he retired over health concerns. Not so. At least, not entirely. He also retired because he felt like the Ohio State administration threw him under the bus during the Zach Smith ordeal. There were a LOT of Ohio State people, ranging from internet dipshits to BMDs to people in the administration, that felt like Meyer's suspension was scapegoating him. Meyer felt that too. So this idea that it's just his poor broken brain that has him on the sideline-- nope. 

1) There are mouthbreathers among us for sure, but plenty of Ohio State fans would be just fine with him going to TX. He doesn't owe us anything.
2) I don't know if he was mad about how he was treated, but I do think the stress of it all aggravate the cyst problem.
3) He definitely has the ability to put magic back in the bottle and win some games in Austin. Maybe even a natty. Or at least set it up for his replacement to do so. I was impressed in 2012 when he didn't bring all his Florida buddies to Columbus. He used it as an opportunity to reboot. He rebooted again after 2017 when he hired Day. His run option offense ceased to be. But...
4) I think he's trolling you guys. To mess with Tom, maybe to help Ohio State recruiting, but for sure to stoke his ego. He's gonna sit bat and let CDC flake out. Maybe at the last second take the money. But if he does, he's gonna drag it out.

[936horn 910]

1 minute ago, Parliament said:

 

 

1) There are mouthbreathers among us for sure, but plenty of Ohio State fans would be just fine with him going to TX. He doesn't owe us anything.
4) I think he's trolling you guys. To mess with Tom, maybe to help Ohio State recruiting, but for sure to stoke his ego. He's gonna sit bat and let CDC flake out. Maybe at the last second take the money. But if he does, he's gonna drag it out.

 

These two points tell me #1 is total horseshit.

[Rimbo 25752]

4 hours ago, RGBIII said:

Burton-Monday

Eric will be posting an accumulation of news and notes in the The Scoop later this morning that I feel closely monitors the pulse of the coaching situation, so I'm going to use this column as an opportunity to go in a slightly different direction.

**

The attitude of those in charge at Texas has never - and I mean never - been more together in their drive to bring home a single coach. Ever.

This is different than Texas' courtship of Nick Saban, where some big money donors led the process without the explicit clearance and understanding of all key members of the athletic department and administration.

It's also clearly at odds with the bizarre outsourcing selection of Charlie Strong that only Steve Patterson could oversee, or the whirlwind, shotgun marriage that led the Horns to Tom Herman, a hand forced somewhat by the timing of another suitor (LSU).

Heck, it's even vastly different than when the Horns landed Mack Brown.

After all, some key members of the Texas admin and athletic director favored Northwestern coach Gary Barnett rather than Brown, athletic director Deloss Dodds even had a handshake deal in place with Barnett and a plane ready to bring him to Austin. Barnett never got on that plane.

Instead, Texas legend Darrell Royal became the kingmaker whose decision everyone coalesced behind; Royal had met with Brown in Atlanta, knew Brown from years before, and Brown was christened the new Texas coach. That was way back in the winter of 1997.

This time, there is no kingmaker of Texas athletics. No single person has the sway of Royal, nor should they.

Yet despite Royal's absence in this search, the powers that be are channeling his ideology. They are remembering what he said, what he stood for, and putting it into practice.

Coach Royal, when asked why he wanted Mack Brown as coach, said he felt like Brown was the one who could put all the BBs back in the box at Texas.

That is exact same reason why those who donate heavily to the university and those who run the university are in utter agreement. They see Urban Meyer as the person to do just that. Meyer is the one they are convinced can put all the BBs back in the box and harness the power and potential of Texas football.

Texas wants three-time national champion Meyer as the next Longhorn coach. And Meyer will be forced to say no. He will be forced to forego a potential financial package for himself and his assistants that would make Nick Saban blush.

No matter the outcome, you can't blame Texas for trying, or the reasoning behind it.

 

How the heck am I supposed to get any work done today?

Our fans can't repel rumors of this magnitude!

[ztejas 43244]

1 minute ago, Parliament said:

but plenty of Ohio State fans would be just fine with him going to TX

 

2 minutes ago, Parliament said:

I think he's trolling you guys.

So you aren't one of them I guess. 

[immamac 42492]

1 minute ago, Parliament said:

 

 

1) There are mouthbreathers among us for sure, but plenty of Ohio State fans would be just fine with him going to TX. He doesn't owe us anything.
2) I don't know if he was mad about how he was treated, but I do think the stress of it all aggravate the cyst problem.
3) He definitely has the ability to put magic back in the bottle and win some games in Austin. Maybe even a natty. Or at least set it up for his replacement to do so. I was impressed in 2012 when he didn't bring all his Florida buddies to Columbus. He used it as an opportunity to reboot. He rebooted again after 2017 when he hired Day. His run option offense ceased to be. But...
4) I think he's trolling you guys. To mess with Tom, maybe to help Ohio State recruiting, but for sure to stoke his ego. He's gonna sit bat and let CDC flake out. Maybe at the last second take the money. But if he does, he's gonna drag it out.

 

I don't think people understand that CDC isn't just some jerk off idiot. He's one of the best AD's in all of athletics, not just college. The Texas job commands about as much revenue as a fucking pro sports team. This isn't just some dumbass jock sniffing and fanboy coomering at Urban Meyer. This is big boy shit. 

[Daichee Bell 2925]

24 minutes ago, Scholz said:

Still constitutes a quorum of douchebags.

Wonderful things happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden of assholes.

-Raylan

[UncleBuck 6444]

6 minutes ago, Parliament said:

4) I think he's trolling you guys. To mess with Tom, maybe to help Ohio State recruiting, but for sure to stoke his ego. He's gonna sit bat and let CDC flake out. Maybe at the last second take the money. But if he does, he's gonna drag it out.

I considered possibility number four for like five seconds back when this all started. If Urban has moved on from coaching and is in his final career, it'd have been wise of him to not lead UT on very long when he was asked not to, because he would have been asked not to. Universities, different professional organizations, they can make it really hard on different media outlets when they don't like one of their guys. It can really screw with that outlet's access etc...  I know Urban's a competitor, and probably hates Tom Herman, but he also seems smart enough to be the professional in this case. 

Edited November 30, 2020 by UncleBuck

[closetohumping 17380]

2 minutes ago, UncleBuck said:

I considered possibility number four for like five seconds back when this all started. If Urban has moved on from coaching and is in his final career, it'd have been wise of him to not lead UT on very long when he was asked not to, because he would have been asked not to. Universities, different professional organizations, they can make it really hard on different media outlets when they don't like one of your guys. It can really screw with you access etc...  I know Urban's a competitor, and probably hates Tom Herman, but he also seems smart enough to be the professional in this case. 

I think two factors to account for:

Urban needs to assemble his staff, if he really won't coach without that dude Mick, then that could be the deal breaker

Is CDC trying to reduce the buyout somehow?

[TexArcher 37455]

10 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Is Texas still paying Charlie strong to not be there?

Worth every penny.