Urban Meyer or bust

[Tex Pete 21,488]

6 minutes ago, Yuk said:

Fuck you for bad faith.

Our best player was one of the most involved.  Maybe he gets 10 sacks a game if he keeps his mouth shut like a good boy?

Fuck yourself.

It has quite clearly been a problem with THIS TEAM that it has not been with others. I did not name specific players. Ossai obviously knows how to handle himself, while some other players needed more guidance from the adults charged with leading them.

I am not saying they should not have spoken up. I am saying they should have been able to transition to the task at hand (as Ossai did). Instead we had players not showing up to fall camp and then deciding later to come, we had another player quit the team in the season then come back. Then the whole "Eyes" issue several games into the season.

It's obvious that the adult leadership was not adequate. If you suck, you have no platform.

Edited December 2, 2020 by Tex Pete

[dcar00 14,967]

19 minutes ago, South Austin said:

 

All I can say is that Gary Patterson is better than keeping Herman at Texas, so the boosters should be 100% behind that if CDC is left with that option. 

the difference between Urban's offer and what we'd have to pay Patterson probably covers most of the buyout of Herman so it could be close to wash money-wise.  Holy hell if we don't fire Herman we are fucked.

[Bevo 13,892]

34 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

TFB Ice Water

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***First, in terms of where things are with Urban Meyer, we continue to hold the same position we’ve held for a bit now. Meyer is who Texas wants, they’re willing to pay a lot of money for him, there is a chance he ends up at Texas but we’d say it’s not a great one at the moment.

***But in trying to figure out what direction Chris Del Conte (CDC) might go should Meyer not work out, I spoke with someone who has worked with CDC.

***Source said that CDC is the type that wants to make a splash hire but said that he also is the type who would want the hire to be ‘his hire’. In the case of Urban, the play is just too big to say no too, but source seemed to indicate that it’s not necessarily his style to look for someone who wouldn’t be CDC’s guy. In other words, not sure you get a ton of credit as an AD for throwing a bazillion dollars at one of the best coaches of this generation.

***Source did add that they wouldn’t be surprised if the idea of replacing Herman with Urban, given there is a bit of a divide between the two, isn’t sitting well with CDC. Said it’s not his style to attract that kind of story, if you will.

***In terms of where he would turn if Urban didn’t take the job, source said that CDC is going to go after his guy. If it’s not Urban though, source believes CDC is going to stake his reputation on this next hire – as in, he will take the credit and the blame for it. Someone like Brian Kelly would be a safe hire in that an AD isn’t losing his job for hiring Kelly and it not working out. That’s like landing a 5-star that doesn’t work out. You lose your job when you stand on the table for a 2-star and it doesn’t work out. But source said, CDC will want this hire to be about his choice and he will want the hire tied to him. Source believes CDC is that confident in his ability to find the right guy.

***In other words, it may not be the hire the fan base wants but it’ll be the hire CDC believes can win. Although at this point, short of Nick and Dabo, I’m not sure CDC can appease the fan base.

***I asked the source if he felt like CDC would return to his old stomping grounds and try to bring Gary Patterson in. Source said, he wouldn’t be surprised if he had an informal conversation with him but couldn’t say whether it would be anymore than that. Source said, Gary was actually offered the TAMU job before Jimbo and apparently Gary turned it down.

***I do know that Patterson doesn’t involve himself with the offense at all and we know what Gary can do when his defense is paired with a good offense. So, should the Urban Meyer thing not work out, I for one would have no problem seeing Gary and a guy like Graham Harrell at Texas. I know that probably won’t be a popular take here but after reading tweets and comments this past week, again, Urban Meyer’s name ruined the chance of a large swath of Texas fans being open to much else.

 

Boo this man

[Get ln My Van 934]

Put me in the move on from Sam at QB for next season camp.

[BornAndRaised 12,876]

14 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

I'm guessing there's a Short Stop closer to you. Go there. Same owners. Same burger.

I've actually never eaten at Short Stop.. but I was googling and apparently Shortstop sold off Sandys? or maybe I misunderstood.

[satyanash 15,603]

15 minutes ago, THUJONE said:

Sam comes back if we get UM.

And the usual suspects whine about it because they myopically jump to blame Sam for our offensive issues.

Edited December 2, 2020 by satyanash

[Texas Wahoo 3,631]

1 minute ago, BornAndRaised said:

We're at the point in the coaching search that 9.95ers are throwing shade at each other? Oh its happening.

Oh shit... does anyone know where Kyler Murray is?

[wood 11,766]

1 hour ago, Mr Orange said:

Kansas is going to be cancelled.  If KSU gets called today as well, it goes down today.

Or this. Agree 100%.

[Get ln My Van 934]

If ketch fucks this up I will personally burn down his kitchen

[ztejas 44,227]

2 minutes ago, pearlandhorn said:

Oh shit.  Lil Debbie Ketch was reprimanded.  Is it time yet:

"We never reported Eltife for a reason"

i.e. "We are now reporting Eltife was there"

[Tex Pete 21,488]

Just now, satyanash said:

And the usual suspects whine about it because they myopically jump to blame Sam for our offensive issues.

We would be more productive if Sam could hit open receivers in stride. And if we didn't overthrow 30 yard bombs on 2nd and 6 when we need to sustain a drive.

[thepop 4,418]

37 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

TFB Ice Water

  Reveal hidden contents

***First, in terms of where things are with Urban Meyer, we continue to hold the same position we’ve held for a bit now. Meyer is who Texas wants, they’re willing to pay a lot of money for him, there is a chance he ends up at Texas but we’d say it’s not a great one at the moment.

***But in trying to figure out what direction Chris Del Conte (CDC) might go should Meyer not work out, I spoke with someone who has worked with CDC.

***Source said that CDC is the type that wants to make a splash hire but said that he also is the type who would want the hire to be ‘his hire’. In the case of Urban, the play is just too big to say no too, but source seemed to indicate that it’s not necessarily his style to look for someone who wouldn’t be CDC’s guy. In other words, not sure you get a ton of credit as an AD for throwing a bazillion dollars at one of the best coaches of this generation.

***Source did add that they wouldn’t be surprised if the idea of replacing Herman with Urban, given there is a bit of a divide between the two, isn’t sitting well with CDC. Said it’s not his style to attract that kind of story, if you will.

***In terms of where he would turn if Urban didn’t take the job, source said that CDC is going to go after his guy. If it’s not Urban though, source believes CDC is going to stake his reputation on this next hire – as in, he will take the credit and the blame for it. Someone like Brian Kelly would be a safe hire in that an AD isn’t losing his job for hiring Kelly and it not working out. That’s like landing a 5-star that doesn’t work out. You lose your job when you stand on the table for a 2-star and it doesn’t work out. But source said, CDC will want this hire to be about his choice and he will want the hire tied to him. Source believes CDC is that confident in his ability to find the right guy.

***In other words, it may not be the hire the fan base wants but it’ll be the hire CDC believes can win. Although at this point, short of Nick and Dabo, I’m not sure CDC can appease the fan base.

***I asked the source if he felt like CDC would return to his old stomping grounds and try to bring Gary Patterson in. Source said, he wouldn’t be surprised if he had an informal conversation with him but couldn’t say whether it would be anymore than that. Source said, Gary was actually offered the TAMU job before Jimbo and apparently Gary turned it down.

***I do know that Patterson doesn’t involve himself with the offense at all and we know what Gary can do when his defense is paired with a good offense. So, should the Urban Meyer thing not work out, I for one would have no problem seeing Gary and a guy like Graham Harrell at Texas. I know that probably won’t be a popular take here but after reading tweets and comments this past week, again, Urban Meyer’s name ruined the chance of a large swath of Texas fans being open to much else.

 

This is not ice water. This is a bucket of nothing.

[dcar00 14,967]

2 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Fuck yourself.

It has quite clearly been a problem with THIS TEAM that it has not been with others. I did not name specific players. Ossai obviously knows how to handle himself, while some other players needed more guidance from the adults charged with leading them.

I am not saying they should not have spoken up. I am saying they should have been able to transition to the task at hand (as Ossai did). Instead we had players not showing up to fall camp and then deciding later to come, we had another player quit the team in the season then come back. It's obvious that the adult leadership was not adequate. If you suck, you have no platform.

I think there is some middle ground here(kind of like being between Bama and Cal)given Covid gave folks more free time than usual and the normal schedules were all f'd up.

[dcar00 14,967]

2 minutes ago, wood said:

Or this. Agree 100%.

one can hope.  though I'd like Sam and seniors to try to win their final game.

[Pam Cummings 9,868]

Joel Klatt was on Cowherd just now and they talked about Texas and how they want to replace Tom. No mention or references to Urban. Whatever is happening, nobody is saying shit.

 

All the 9.95ers are throwing shit out there, everyone wants to be the first to say it either happened or didn't.

Edited December 2, 2020 by Pam Cummings

[ClubWhatever 12,307]

WTF is a "Tife"?

[Bevo14 8,468]

8 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Fuck yourself.

It has quite clearly been a problem with THIS TEAM that it has not been with others. I did not name specific players. Ossai obviously knows how to handle himself, while some other players needed more guidance from the adults charged with leading them.

I am not saying they should not have spoken up. I am saying they should have been able to transition to the task at hand (as Ossai did). Instead we had players not showing up to fall camp and then deciding later to come, we had another player quit the team in the season then come back. Then the whole "Eyes" issue several games into the season.

It's obvious that the adult leadership was not adequate. If you suck, you have no platform.

This goes back to Herman's overall failure as the leader of this team. It's not like we're noticeably worse this season. We look pretty much the same as last year. Also, the teams with strong head coaches made it through fine.

Edited December 2, 2020 by Bevo14

[ztejas 44,227]

Just now, Pam Cummings said:

Joel Klatt was on Cowherd just now and they talked about Texas and how they want to replace Tom. No mention or references to Urban. Whatever is happening, nobody is saying shit.

[Gene Parmesan 4,064]

5 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Fuck yourself.

It has quite clearly been a problem with THIS TEAM that it has not been with others. I did not name specific players. Ossai obviously knows how to handle himself, while some other players needed more guidance from the adults charged with leading them.

I am not saying they should not have spoken up. I am saying they should have been able to transition to the task at hand (as Ossai did). Instead we had players not showing up to fall camp and then deciding later to come, we had another player quit the team in the season then come back. Then the whole "Eyes" issue several games into the season.

It's obvious that the adult leadership was not adequate. If you suck, you have no platform.

This team is mediocre just like they've been Herman's entire tenure.  The protests distractions are a new variable for 2020 only.  I am sure they didn't help anything, but they are way down the list on problems with the program.

[ConferenceRoom 6,214]

1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

WTF is a "Tife"?

Not a Tife. The Tife.

[dcar00 14,967]

3 minutes ago, Get ln My Van said:

If ketch fucks this up I will personally burn down his kitchen

Ketch being asked to meet with CDC

https://tenor.com/view/good-fellas-headshot-movie-gif-17379696

[Tex Pete 21,488]

Just now, dcar00 said:

I think there is some middle ground here(kind of like being between Bama and Cal)given Covid gave folks more free time than usual and the normal schedules were all f'd up.

I actually thought Herman did a good job in the midst of it all in the summer. He let the players react and supported their actions. But as time progressed, he did not steer them into fall mode. To me, that comes down to relationships. His relationships with his individual players were not strong enough for him to sit down with them, hear them, encourage them, and guide them. That is all his fault.

Maybe he was too busy banging Kendra Scott at the time to do his job that he is paid handsomely for.

[trythisathome 980]

2 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Joel Klatt was on Cowherd just now and they talked about Texas and how they want to replace Tom. No mention or references to Urban. Whatever is happening, nobody is saying shit.

 

All the 9.95ers are throwing shit out there, everyone wants to be the first to say it either happened or didn't.

What were you expecting to happen? Klatt wasn't going to come out and say "Hint hint, one of my esteemed coworkers may be wearing burnt orange soon!" 

[vtaenz 603]

1 minute ago, trythisathome said:

What were you expecting to happen? Klatt wasn't going to come out and say "Hint hint, one of my esteemed coworkers may be wearing burnt orange soon!" 

Would have been nice of him.

[BornAndRaised 12,876]

1 minute ago, trythisathome said:

What were you expecting to happen? Klatt wasn't going to come out and say "Hint hint, one of my esteemed coworkers may be wearing burnt orange soon!" 

And why the fuck not?

[Tex Pete 21,488]

1 minute ago, Gene Parmesan said:

This team is mediocre just like they've been Herman's entire tenure.  The protests distractions are a new variable for 2020 only.  I am sure they didn't help anything, but they are way down the list on problems with the program.

When the fans and players are openly against each other several games into the season (Eyes after OU), causing the AD to get involved, it is not just a problem down the list.

[Pam Cummings 9,868]

1 minute ago, trythisathome said:

What were you expecting to happen? Klatt wasn't going to come out and say "Hint hint, one of my esteemed coworkers may be wearing burnt orange soon!" 

Idk, i think it is a good sign. It would be fun for them to speculate about Urban on a national show. Maybe someone talked to Joel and told him not to mention it?

[Butch Had Not 3,061]

5 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

We would be more productive if Sam could hit open receivers in stride. And if we didn't overthrow 30 yard bombs on 2nd and 6 when we need to sustain a drive.

And we're not blaming Sam. He's not that guy to elevate us like a fields or Lawrence. He never was. Good college player. Not a national championship qb unless he has ballers all around.

[HtownHorn 15,236]

24 minutes ago, THUJONE said:

Sam comes back if we get UM.

Nope. Not a chance. Sam needs to go.

[closetohumping 17,817]

1 minute ago, Pam Cummings said:

Idk, i think it is a good sign. It would be fun for them to speculate about Urban on a national show. Maybe someone talked to Joel and told him not to mention it?

Joel and Colin are both colleagues of Urban.  No way they go there.

[Deej 77,824]

3 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

IMaybe he was too busy banging Kendra Scott at the time to do his job that he is paid handsomely for.

I have a feeling it was more Herman getting NowThis'd by Kendra Scott. 

[Orange&White 5,573]

42 minutes ago, RollLeft said:

So king Roach snubbed the aggies eh.  Nice.

Who in their right fucking mind would want to work for John Sharp? Patterson has been around Texas long enough to know that culture.

Bilbo had no fucking clue what he was stepping into other than the ($75M) until he walked off the plane to a bunch of fake army guys playing tubas.

[The Dog 44,861]

26 minutes ago, Bam Bam Sam said:

Sounds more like Ketch name dropped someone he shouldn't have and got ahead of himself

Which would totally be on brand for Ketch. When he does have info he doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut (see Kyler Murray recruitment)

[wood 11,766]

1 hour ago, Nicole44 said:

We should probably be working diligently on the new Surly motto. 

"No hablo con putos".

[Gene Parmesan 4,064]

1 minute ago, Tex Pete said:

When the fans and players are openly against each other several games into the season (Eyes after OU), causing the AD to get involved, it is not just a problem down the list.

I meant down the list as to why we suck?  If Floyd never happened would this team beat TCU, OU, or ISU?

[Hagbard Celine 11,249]

32 minutes ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

On tapa, all I'm getting in this thread are ads for Kendra Scott, and it's making me laugh every time.

we need a deepfake scissoring kendra scott

[ClubWhatever 12,307]

1 minute ago, Gene Parmesan said:

I meant down the list as to why we suck?  If Floyd never happened would this team beat TCU, OU, or ISU?

D'Gabriel?  Yes.

[IDIOTsavant 8,688]

49 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Any interesting planes land in Austin around 11:45? Asking for a friend.

Y'all should really give this request a little attention. Just some friendly advice.

[JesusSweatDuck 18,112]

14 minutes ago, Get ln My Van said:

If ketch fucks this up I will personally burn down his kitchen

He doesn't cook, only fast food for that fat ass

[closetohumping 17,817]

3 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Which would totally be on brand for Ketch. When he does have info he doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut (see Kyler Murray recruitment)

Doubt he had info.  He stole it from here would be my guess

[CoachTex 2,658]

9 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

WTF is a "Tife"?

[ztejas 44,227]

1 minute ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Y'all should really give this request a little attention. Just some friendly advice.

Saw this while skimming but it's nothing. 

 

[Tex Pete 21,488]

2 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

I meant down the list as to why we suck?  If Floyd never happened would this team beat TCU, OU, or ISU?

I have no idea. But when team captains are part of a team's problems, you have locker room culture issues.

Captains should be the guys rallying the troops to take care of business. Not on this team. That falls on the captains, but even moreso on their head coach.

[BornAndRaised 12,876]

2 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Y'all should really give this request a little attention. Just some friendly advice.

@PassiveAggressiveCoach @CenTex Hill BillyI think they were the ones running point on the flightawares? might have been one more

[HOOKEM4 5,176]

3 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Y'all should really give this request a little attention. Just some friendly advice.

Here https://flightaware.com/live/flight/KAL9033/history/20201202/1600Z/KPHX/KAUS

 

[WBT 20,976]

11 minutes ago, trythisathome said:

What were you expecting to happen? Klatt wasn't going to come out and say "Hint hint, one of my esteemed coworkers may be wearing burnt orange soon!" 

Does he or does he not want our collective $9.95?

[JesusSweatDuck 18,112]

3 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Y'all should really give this request a little attention. Just some friendly advice.

Not seeing anything at Austin Exec

[THUJONE 4,550]

Count me as ready to move on from Sam as well. I think his number one talent was toughness. Not so much accuracy of pocket presence. 

 

[936horn 942]

4 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Y'all should really give this request a little attention. Just some friendly advice.

Nothing stands out at EDC or AUS.....

[Tex Pete 21,488]

32 minutes ago, Bam Bam Sam said:

Sounds more like Ketch name dropped someone he shouldn't have and got ahead of himself, and someone called him up for a reprimand. That, however, would imply that Ketch actually has a line in.

Geoff Ketchum should be banned from our program like Hamm was at aggy. He is an insufferable douche who constantly elevates his own interests above the program's, and has no regard for the damage he may cause the program. And he makes his money off of supporters OF the program.

People should stop giving his site money. Cut his ass off.