Urban Meyer or bust

[NoName 17171]

4 minutes ago, ztejas said:

No - I don't think coaching for a year in the Sun Belt is meaningful head coaching experience when your next job is coaching a top 5 program in the SEC. 

And I was just going off the top of my head with some help from wiki to verify to make the point that Auburn has done something similar twice in the past 15 years. I can give you more examples if you'd like, although you seem to be shifting the goalposts already. You're criteria was ridiculously thin to begin with. 

We can start with Stoops. Most guys, to be fair, don't fit your criteria but there is one hugely successful example right there. 

Stoops was hired 22 years ago - a few things have changed since then

I would love to see more examples where it worked out. So far we have zero actual names considering the bar is "never been a college head coach before, not on the staff, then hired by a blue blood and was successful"

• Chizik had 2 years at ISU
• Malzahn had 1 year at Ark State + 3? years on staff before that at Auburn

 

[Red Five 41780]

Haven't heard the name Chris Petersen in awhile. Hey he's 56 with no buyout - just like Urbs!

[UrbanTheMeyer 67]

has there been any new news yet or are we still relying on 995ers playing telephone?

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[JOSEYWALES66 1857]

Just now, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Not a single coach is worth buying Herman out just to shell out another 5 million per year + for the same results

We know what we have in Herman and it is not what I think we should consider our standard.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8985]

Herman is total shit, there are at least a dozen guys out there that would be a clear upgrade over him. 

A dozen ground rule double hires? We’ve tried the young(er) up and comer coach, twice, and both were terribad. And not even necessarily terribad vs highly ranked teams...terribad vs going down to the wire against unranked shit.

What can someone like campbell do at Texas that Herman can’t? Campbell damn near, or actually loses to an fcs team every year. Just ask Al

[derpyhorndog 2703]

6 minutes ago, victory88 said:

Just sharing what I listened to.  I think Chip is a moron.  I also do believe CDC doesn't want Meyer either.  He's going to get marginalized when Meyer picks his own assistant AD for the football program.  You think he's going to be on board with hiring someone that doesn't plan on answering to him?  This whole situation is fucked in my opinion.

Symptom of the widely rooted issues in our AD and its gravitational circle, where personal interests take priority over what is best for the program's success.

[rungeflash 322]

I can't stomach the thought of that little crying cunt on the side line for another year. He'll be even more insecure after this flirtation with meyer.....tommy boy will turtle like no other 2021 and the next 3 years of blue chip recruits sure as shit know it. Herman couldn't develop and win with 4 and 5 star guys....this will be a shitshow of epic proportions  with 2-star and 3-star 

Mullen, Campbell, Harsin, fatty patty.....doesn't matter, it has to be done. Any of these will produce vastly superior results '21-''23.....wins, talent development, in game decision making, and on the recruiting trail. It's worth the buyout

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TejasPedro 1918]

Does anyone know if CDC‘S wife makes jewelry? Staring to think that was our mystery metallurgist all along.

 

[BurntOrange&White 42005]

7 minutes ago, NoName said:

just in case you think he is understating the situation here, the top 8 players in the current case are all defensive players

8 of the next 9 are all offensive players. the bottom 7 players in the class are all offensive players (excluding the Aussie punter) - basically we are going to sign the lowest rated offensive recruits we have offered at all offensive positions except WR

our class includes 2 guys outside the top 150 in the State of Texas, 1 guy ranked #138 in Florida and a guy ranked #143 in LA

this class is really not great on offense.

We only have 1 recruit out of the top 25 recruits in the state. 

[hobbs 250]

Well...fuck me.

Now where the hell will we go to talk about BBQ, guns, burgers, mayo, Tex Mex, shitty towns, etc.?😉

[Gut Wagon 8219]

2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Haven't heard the name Chris Petersen in awhile. Hey he's 56 with no buyout - just like Urbs!

Not sure the full story behind why Petersen just "retired" from coaching to become a UW administrator, but I don't think anyone seriously thinks he'd be a candidate at UT. 

[bejezuz 329]

7 minutes ago, NoName said:

just in case you think he is understating the situation here, the top 8 players in the current case are all defensive players

8 of the next 9 are all offensive players. the bottom 7 players in the class are all offensive players (excluding the Aussie punter) - basically we are going to sign the lowest rated offensive recruits we have offered at all offensive positions except WR

our class includes 2 guys outside the top 150 in the State of Texas, 1 guy ranked #138 in Florida and a guy ranked #143 in LA

this class is really not great on offense.

Hopefully those three stars can play well enough to get minutes over David Gbenda and Kai Money.  

Edited December 7, 2020 by bejezuz

[JFKFC 4978]

11 minutes ago, futureman said:

still waiting on apologies from everyone in this thread.  I never pretended to have inside info like so many of the phonies that love to act like their posts matter.  I told y’all the truth from day one.  my posts actually do matter.  I’d like to be acknowledged for it.  

I made a $38 hamburger meat bet with someone that Urban wouldn't be our coach. I just can't remember who I made the bet with....

[elguapo 4620]

1 minute ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

A dozen ground rule double hires? We’ve tried the young(er) up and comer coach, twice, and both were terribad. And not even necessarily terribad vs highly ranked teams...terribad vs going down to the wire against unranked shit.

What can someone like campbell do at Texas that Herman can’t? Campbell damn near, or actually loses to an fcs team every year. Just ask Al

Campbell just went 8-1 in the big 12 with recruiting classes ranked in the 50s, he would have won the big 12 with this same Texas roster easy.

[ConferenceRoom 6214]

Just now, JFKFC said:

I made a $38 hamburger meat bet with someone that Urban wouldn't be our coach. I just can't remember who I made the bet with....

@ztejas?

[BB65 489]

Just now, elguapo said:

Campbell just went 8-1 in the big 12 with recruiting classes ranked in the 50s, he would have won the big 12 with this same Texas roster easy.

No way not enough TEs on Texas roster

[The Beast 585]

8 minutes ago, Red Five said:

And the '22 guys are bailing as well.

Alabama in 2 years....lulz

[Tom Chairman 278]

Jeebus, CUM was out and about trying to assemble a staff and we fucking blew it?? These are the bluest of blue balls. Who the F do I blame for this kerfuffle?! What a disaster.

[CastHorn 907]

Campbell has multiple early round picks scattered on his roster. He deserves credit for developing those guys but let’s not pretend he took a bunch of scrubs to the title game.  

[HornoSapiens 106]

13 minutes ago, futureman said:

still waiting on apologies from everyone in this thread.  I never pretended to have inside info like so many of the phonies that love to act like their posts matter.  I told y’all the truth from day one.  my posts actually do matter.  I’d like to be acknowledged for it.  

[Leeroy Jenkins 2498]

If we hire someone, give them a $1M incentive to beat OU every year and another $1M incentive to win the conference.  

[BrazilHorn 6855]

11 minutes ago, Red Five said:

And the '22 guys are bailing as well.

Are there even any '22 guys left yet?

[utee94 16091]

Just now, Leeroy Jenkins said:

If we hire someone, give them a $1M incentive to beat OU every year and another $1M incentive to win the conference.  

Sounds good in theory, but I don't think financial incentive has been the reason our past 3 coaches have struggled to do the above for the past decade.

[Doc Reeves 6434]

15 minutes ago, futureman said:

still waiting on apologies from everyone in this thread.  I never pretended to have inside info like so many of the phonies that love to act like their posts matter.  I told y’all the truth from day one.  my posts actually do matter.  I’d like to be acknowledged for it.  

 

[Zeus 6879]

Future man's asshole is safe

Or is it?

[derpyhorndog 2703]

11 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Haven't heard the name Chris Petersen in awhile. Hey he's 56 with no buyout - just like Urbs!

You jest, but why the fuck not kick the tires? Similar to the drunken late-night suggestion by another poster to put in a call to Satan and see if he wants $12MM to escape Tuscaloosa for a three-year vacation and just long enough to defibrillate the program and win a NC at a third school. Not that he'd necessarily even answer the phone after the last shit show (and the one that just publicly unfolded), but maybe it's just Steve Hicks' number that he blocked.

Edited December 7, 2020 by derpyhorndog

[bigcigar 1224]

11 minutes ago, immamac said:

I love how the program is ~ 2 weeks from being ruined for about a decade and all you care about is your ego because you said you would fist your own asshole if we hired one of the very few people that could actually right the ship at Texas. 

It’s a bit on a site that celebrates bits and was birthed out of a we’re assholes bit. Wouldn’t it be a farce if he caved now?

[Kel Varnsen 8749]

2 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

If we hire someone, give them a $1M incentive to beat OU every year and another $1M incentive to win the conference.  

Does this coach have Ricky's agent?

[elguapo 4620]

Just now, CastHorn said:

Campbell has multiple early round picks scattered on his roster. He deserves credit for developing those guys but let’s not pretend he took a bunch of scrubs to the title game.  

Agree, Campbell excels at identifying and developing talent which is how he went 8-1 in the big 12 with recruiting classes that were ranked in the 50s and the bottom half of the conference.

[PassiveAggressiveCoach 118]

I hear Harbaugh is staying at Michigan so it could be worse?  

[futureman 22719]

13 minutes ago, immamac said:

I love how the program is ~ 2 weeks from being ruined for about a decade and all you care about is your ego because you said you would fist your own asshole if we hired one of the very few people that could actually right the ship at Texas. 

aren’t you supposed to be one of the smart ones? 

[CowtownHorn 5126]

This thread has been a blast over the past couple of weeks. Will miss all of the booze, gun, and food pics. And I still laugh when I think about @immamac with the McRib pic. That should be the poster for this thread when it’s all said and done. Next time there’s a Surly tailgate or happy hour...I’ll try to get my lazy ass down to Austin. Love you all...Hook’em!

[futureman 22719]

4 minutes ago, HornoSapiens said:

 

[ImissWallyPryor 9046]

How is CDC’s relationship with Fatterson?

[RGBIII 23020]

21 minutes ago, futureman said:

still waiting on apologies from everyone in this thread.  I never pretended to have inside info like so many of the phonies that love to act like their posts matter.  I told y’all the truth from day one.  my posts actually do matter.  I’d like to be acknowledged for it.  

I dont have the energy to salt the snail at this point...dark days

[WinningIsHard 4171]

David Montgomery, Allen Lazard, Hakeem Butler, and the rb iowa state has now are all indications that Campbell has some ability to improve his players. Herman has shown zero ability to improve his players. Fickell seems to have his shit together in that department as well. 

[Drew 2932]

[CowtownHorn 5126]

Just now, ImissWallyPryor said:

How is CDC’s relationship with Fatterson?

Pretty damn good.

[idigTexas 2332]

12 minutes ago, rungeflash said:

I can't stomach the thought of that little crying cunt on the side line for another year. He'll be even more insecure after this flirtation with meyer.....tommy boy will turtle like no other 2021 and the next 3 years of blue chip recruits sure as shit know it. Herman couldn't develop and win with 4 and 5 star guys....this will be a shitshow of epic proportions  with 2-star and 3-star 

Mullen, Campbell, Harsin, fatty patty.....doesn't matter, it has to be done. Any of these will produce vastly superior results '21-''23.....wins, talent development, in game decision making, and on the recruiting trail. It's worth the buyout

Is it?  Then get on the phone to CDC and offer to pay it.  

[PassiveAggressiveCoach 118]

8 minutes ago, elguapo said:

Campbell just went 8-1 in the big 12 with recruiting classes ranked in the 50s, he would have won the big 12 with this same Texas roster easy.

I mean at this point who the fuck cares?  He's obviously the best we can do.  He probably is better than Herman.  Why the fuck not even though I think he could be Herman 2.0.  We just cant keep cucked Herman now.

[Rokotosh 62]

Does Pete Carroll have a large contractual buyout? Is he an option? Seems like Seattle fans are becoming a little restless with him.

[Randolph Duke 4034]

2 minutes ago, elguapo said:

Agree, Campbell excels at identifying and developing talent which is how he went 8-1 in the big 12 with recruiting classes that were ranked in the 50s and the bottom half of the conference.

Herman was just as impressive at U of H. Including when he smoked both OU and Jimbo at Free Shoes.

There is a lot to the challenge of picking a good head coach that people are not factoring in.

[immamac 44414]

3 minutes ago, futureman said:

aren’t you supposed to be one of the smart ones? 

I'm not all doomer about UM not coming to Texas, however this is program ruining optics by the AD. UM coming was always a 50/50 shot at best and I get your schtick, but right now this has turned into a way way bigger problem than "not getting the coach we want" 

[ztejas 44281]

10 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

I made a $38 hamburger meat bet with someone that Urban wouldn't be our coach. I just can't remember who I made the bet with....

You made it with me but it was contingent on Herman returning in 2021 - not on Urban coaching here.

[mdmost 44110]

2 minutes ago, ImissWallyPryor said:

How is CDC’s relationship with Fatterson?

Just stop

[derpyhorndog 2703]

3 minutes ago, CowtownHorn said:

This thread has been a blast over the past couple of weeks. Will miss all of the booze, gun, and food pics. And I still laugh when I think about @immamac with the McRib pic. That should be the poster for this thread when it’s all said and done. Next time there’s a Surly tailgate or happy hour...I’ll try to get my lazy ass down to Austin. Love you all...Hook’em!

Yes, as many others have mentioned, regardless of where this ends up, that was the most fun, laughs and excitement I've had over UT football in a long time. Will reiterate what I said hundreds of pages back in this thread, I simultaneously love and hate all of you bastards.

...except you, futureman. Go fuck yourself. 

[Newy25 7950]

From what is being reported on the pay sites combined with what I have heard, if you had to bet today it would be Herman coaching Texas in 2021. That is unless he leaves himself to take another job. This is now officially the “bust” scenario we feared. 

[cabowabo 4692]

Just now, deech said:

Bill Cowher.  

Since we are all throwing shit on the wall.  It was revealed this morning he is interested in getting back into coaching.

He's not woke enough.

[deech 2402]

Bill Cowher.  

Since we are all throwing shit on the wall.  It was revealed this morning he is interested in getting back into coaching.

[elguapo 4620]

1 minute ago, Randolph Duke said:

Herman was just as impressive at U of H. Including when he smoked both OU and Jimbo at Free Shoes.

There is a lot to the challenge of picking a good head coach that people are not factoring in.

Maybe I'm crazy but I think what Campbell has done at historically inept Iowa State vs big 12 competition is just a bit more impressive than what Herman did at UH vs AAC competition.