Urban Meyer or bust

[BurntOrange&White 41853]

What's a tik tok video?

Vine but double the length.

[Landomatic 3813]

20 minutes ago, Lobo said:

What are the chances that Meyer returns to coaching this off-season as opposed to next offseason (January 2020 v. January 2021)?  It seems highly unlikely that someone like Urban Meyer would get his hire green-lit by this current Board of Regents.  Jan/Feb 2021 is a different story. 

All depends on what jobs are available.  Here are the odds best I can tell...

Realistically, there are probably only 8 or so jobs Urban would even consider today (the 8 BBs plus maaaaaybe a couple others).  If any of those 8 or so are open this off-season, I’d be shocked if he doesn’t jump at one of them.

USC is most likely, although Helton may do just enough to not get fired this year. Especially given their current environment with all the admissions scandal shit, they may not want any more rocking boats right now.

One of the other 7 is probably only available if their coach jumps to the NFL.  OUsux seems to be the only real likely candidate on that list.

Then you’ve maybe got a couple other possibilities but most seem like long shots and I couldn’t even really tell you who they’d be.  FSU?  I’d say pretty doubtful.

I don’t think he’s fucking with any of this again unless he feels very strongly that he can A) win a national championship wherever it is he goes and B) do it very quickly.  What would he have to gain otherwise?  And again, only about 8 or so schools that check those 2 boxes.  Texas is one of them.

[Hagbard Celine 11240]

3 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Normally I’m aligned with most of your posts. I like you as a board contributor, you’re a guy who's insight I value. 
 

urban is that bad. Saban is dirty. Debo is dirty. I’m ok with money dirty. My line is human rights dirty. Period. 

why is dabo in that group?

[clapclapclap 9000]

If we are going to stoops to the level of hiring an Urban Meyer then just go ahead and join the scummy SEC.

[victory88 5764]

1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

why is dabo in that group?

Funnels money from a church to recruits and players.  All his players are roiding...

[SydneyCarton 49483]

3 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

why is dabo in that group?

Because financially he is dirty. Him and his fucking church. And that’s fine. But a spade is a fucking spade. 

[USNALonghorn 5183]

The biggest visible downside to Urban is the state he left Florida in after his departure. It reeked of him losing control of an already volatile locker room. However, this year's tOSU makes him seem less dangerous to the long term well being of a football program. While sitting at 5-2, with losses to LSU and OU, I honestly though he was far from the best idea. After watching the last four weeks of futility and losing hope for this staff to turn things around (without oversight), I'm much more open to the idea of gambling on a guy like Urban. Once again, the concern would still be the state of the program after he leaves.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

2 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

The biggest visible downside to Urban is the state he left Florida in after his departure. It reeked of him losing control of an already volatile locker room. However, this year's tOSU makes him seem less dangerous to the long term well being of a football program. While sitting at 5-2, with losses to LSU and OU, I honestly though he was far from the best idea. After watching the last four weeks of futility and losing hope for this staff to turn things around (without oversight), I'm much more open to the idea of gambling on a guy like Urban. Once again, the concern would still be the state of the program after he leaves.

In this hypothetical post-Urban world, are we coming off 1 or 2 national championships?

[USNALonghorn 5183]

2 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

In this hypothetical post-Urban world, are we coming off 1 or 2 national championships?

If he stays a decade and goes full Saban (5+), he can SMU the roster for all I care.

[HoustonHorn 1064]

We took the step when we hired TH. Then he hired Horney.

If we're ok with that, then win. Don't play a stupid semantics game like CTJ and SC like to do. If we are going dirty, them let's get results.

[Spawn of Cthulhu 2241]

Is hiring Urban going to lead to Auschwitz, Buchenwald, or (why not) both? Because I'm fine if we simply stop at the partition of Poland and seizing the low countries.

[David Dennison 19534]

1 hour ago, clapclapclap said:

If we are going to stoops to the level of hiring an Urban Meyer then just go ahead and join the scummy SEC.

That would be wonderful. 

 

[Treefidy 1507]

16 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Fuck it, give urban the jimbo deal

Bet he would take 5/45M

Rhule is looking like a damn good coach.  Would he bolt for the NFL?   That's what a lot of people think.  If he started winning championships, UT is one of the handful of places that can pay more than even high paying NFL gigs.  

Leaving for the NFL probably depends on how a coach feels about recruiting.   Many aspects of the college job make it an "easier" job than NFL, but this is probably the biggest difference maker and I have no idea how Rhule feels about that year round aspect of the job.   

Hermans extension was stupid considering his contract structure with the 250k annual raises, probably should have waited to see year 3 trajectory or maybe a 1 year extension would have sufficed.   He basically got a $13M bonus for winning the sugar bowl. A rational approach is fOSU going from $7.5M for Urban down to 4.5M for Day (he's going to get a deserved raise) Or OU going from the giant bag of dicks down to $3.8M for Riley to start (also won hardware, CFP appearance and subsequent earned raise) 

[Treefidy 1507]

11 hours ago, XYZ said:

I don’t think Urban would take the Texas job. Same as Saban. They understand that there’s too much meddling by the BMDs.

Haha. Not sure if Urban would take the job, and saban is fine where he's at.  Saban would have taken the job 6 years ago, back when he was still looking at another decade of stacking his legacy and pallets of cash.  

So many programs have boosters worse than ours.   Places like UH and until very recently OSU have a primary booster who is all up in your shit.   One of the reasons Saban was willing to change jobs was booster relations.   You would think winning 3 MNCs in 4 years would buy you the moon, but 2010 happened and he lost to SCe, LSU and Barn, in the same season!  Gasp.  

[Chad 1728]

https://thespun.com/big-12/texas-longhorns/urban-meyer-reacts-texas-loss-iowa-state?fbclid=IwAR1rWMKUuv-SLpmIOswjKh0dLxIgOK6G9j5GOEHftWYy8Pn1nnrDyLYt7z4

 

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There was a time when a game like that would have been a ‘stop the presses’ upset,” Meyer said, via 247Sports. “It wasn’t (today). Iowa State was picked to win. You watched the game, and Iowa State may have been the better team. Texas … they’re recruiting well. A little bit like (Michigan), you might need to look under the hood and find out what’s going on, because (that ending) shouldn’t happen.

 

[BurntOrange&White 41853]

Any change of hearts?

[Elmer_Fudd 22992]

Just now, Bevo VIII said:

Any change of hearts?

Was changed a month ago.  Unless we want to keep going forward like the last decade.

[futureman 22698]

5 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

Any change of hearts?

fuck no.  I still want him to replace herman as much as I did a month ago. 

[Chad 1728]

I trust one man to straighten out this clown show.

Come on, CDC. From 10-4 to what will likely amount to 6-6. Get rid of the G5 one hit wonder, why delay the inevitable? It's been a decade of misery. Herman won't move on from Beck, Orlando and the rest of these flunkies on the staff and history will repeat itself.

 

[futureman 22698]

On 11/17/2019 at 9:23 AM, Chrispy_ said:

Guys, it’s happening. Lotushorn is reporting that a booster has reached out to Urban’s agent and is willing to pay Herman’s buyout personally. 

if only

[Sgt Hulk 14430]

Everyone on the moral high ground with class train can blow yourselves 

[VaLonghorn99 365]

Thread title. Nuff said. Make it happen

[Vic Mackey 47953]

8 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

Any change of hearts?

No way. I want to win the Morally Right trophy every year and talk about how clean we are. That is much better than winning. Winning is overrated. 

[BurntOrange&White 41853]

No way. I want to win the Morally Right trophy every year and talk about how clean we are. That is much better than winning. Winning is overrated. 

Lol I love you dawg

[VaLonghorn99 365]

Is Herman some kind of a morality role model? Stop the orange bleeding for goodness sake.

Edited November 23, 2019 by VaLonghorn99

[Funk Doctor Spock 13284]

1 minute ago, VaLonghorn99 said:

Is Herman some kind of a morality role model? Stop the orange bleeding for goodness sake.

Casey Horny needs answers 

[TexasGary 867]

I am tired of getting my ass kicked on a daily basis by the likes of TCU, Iowa State, and Baylor.  It's been a decade and we will have to play our best to  finish 7-5 and enjoy another Houston bowl.

If it makes people feel any better put a morality clause in his contract but go get Urban Meyer and get this thing turned around.  Charlie had three seasons and by my count this is three seasons for Herman.  Outside of the Sugar bowl win it feels like we are right back to where we were when Charlie took over.

[Colonel Mustard 325]

[Richter 2414]

Let’s make it happen.

[SubliminalHorn 7009]

Fire Tom

[Steelers Roll Left 1297]

Do I think Tom Herman “could” still get it done at Texas?  Yes.  Do I hang on to him and give the benefit of the doubt if there’s a shot at hiring Urban Meyer?  Absolutely not.

[CurlyDumps 4655]

Obligatory “I’d rather go 0-11 for a hundred years than hire an inglorious scalawag like Urban Meyer! I say GOOD DAY, SIR!”

[Thetexashammer 1062]

20 minutes ago, VaLonghorn99 said:

Is Herman some kind of a morality role model? Stop the orange bleeding for goodness sake.

Well he and Michelle did snort coke off a stripper, so he's a role model of a sort.

[Foosters 18279]

I'm in

[VaLonghorn99 365]

1 minute ago, Thetexashammer said:

Well he and Michelle did snort coke off a stripper, so he's a role model of a sort.

They can keep doing that for the rest of their lives. More power to them just GTFO of Texas.

[Funk Doctor Spock 13284]

I'm so done with this shit. Fucking hire Urban and get it over with. I don't care what skeletons he has in his closet, all great coaches do. He's left no program with violations. Sign that motherfucker up. 

[F250 29200]

Offer Urban $4 Million as a base pay with a $1 Million bonus for winning the conference championship and an additional $2 Million for making the playoffs with an additional $2 Million for winning the championship. Double these bonus numbers for each National Championship he wins.

If the team ends up in a non-NY Bowl Game deduce $500 K from his salary. A loss to Oklahoma would require the loss of one of his fingers.

 

[markstanco 12786]

Everyone on the moral high ground with class train can blow yourselves 

[trythisathome 980]

Just now, F250 said:

Offer Urban $4 Million as a base pay with a $1 Million bonus for winning the conference championship and an additional $2 Million for making the playoffs with an additional $2 Million for winning the championship. Double these bonus numbers for each National Championship he wins.

If the team ends up in a non-NY Bowl Game deduce $500 K from his salary. A loss to Oklahoma would require the loss of one of his fingers.

 

Why the fuck would Urban come out of retirement for 4 million a year? 

[Zavala 1384]

Id rather bust

[markstanco 12786]

If the team ends up in a non-NY Bowl Game deduce $500 K from his salary. A loss to Oklahoma would require the loss of one of his fingers.
 

That seems a little unreasonable.

Fuck it I'm in.

[clownin72 199]

Fuck it I'm in

[BradWilcox 115]

On 11/17/2019 at 12:12 PM, maninblack said:

lol... Urban wouldn't touch this program with a rubber stick! Not going to happen! Tell your buddy to cut back on the crack.

[BradWilcox 115]

1 minute ago, trythisathome said:

Why the fuck would Urban come out of retirement for 4 million a year? 

Don't worry cause he isn't.

[Shaggy3.0 1695]

So what are you waiting on CDC?

Lets your nuts hang and get Urban or fuck you too.

[F250 29200]

4 minutes ago, markstanco said:

 

 

That seems a little unreasonable.

Fuck it I'm in.

Imagine the catharsis of seeing CDC snipping off the coaches finger after a loss to Oklahoma.

[markstanco 12786]

lol... Urban wouldn't touch this program with a rubber stick! Not going to happen! Tell your buddy to cut back on the crack.

A rubber stick? What is that?

[BradWilcox 115]

Chase Young for Heisman! He shopped at Jared's.

[Knoxtnhorn 6306]

On 11/17/2019 at 12:23 PM, Landomatic said:

All depends on what jobs are available.  Here are the odds best I can tell...

Realistically, there are probably only 8 or so jobs Urban would even consider today (the 8 BBs plus maaaaaybe a couple others).  If any of those 8 or so are open this off-season, I’d be shocked if he doesn’t jump at one of them.

USC is most likely, although Helton may do just enough to not get fired this year. Especially given their current environment with all the admissions scandal shit, they may not want any more rocking boats right now.

One of the other 7 is probably only available if their coach jumps to the NFL.  OUsux seems to be the only real likely candidate on that list.

Then you’ve maybe got a couple other possibilities but most seem like long shots and I couldn’t even really tell you who they’d be.  FSU?  I’d say pretty doubtful.

I don’t think he’s fucking with any of this again unless he feels very strongly that he can A) win a national championship wherever it is he goes and B) do it very quickly.  What would he have to gain otherwise?  And again, only about 8 or so schools that check those 2 boxes.  Texas is one of them.

So.  Root for USC.  Cool.  I'm on it.

[Landomatic 3813]

1 minute ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

So.  Root for USC.  Cool.  I'm on it.

Looks like they took care of it.  Don’t know how they can fire Helton after this.  Finishes regular season 8-4, ranked and beating UCLA