Urban Meyer or bust

[JesusSweatDuck 18051]

7 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

FCB lol fuck this guy

When folks have been asking us about what’s going on with Tom Herman’s job security, I’ve said just let things play out.

That’s because nothing is going to happen before Texas’ Alamo Bowl matchup with Colorado on Dec. 29. After the college football bowl season has concluded, there will be a meeting of the minds involving athletic director Chris Del Conte, UT president Jay Hartzell and regents chairman Kevin Eltife about a final evaluation of the football program’s direction.

It’s at that point either things will get bonkers in terms of a search for a new coach or there will be silence, meaning Herman simply continues as coach in 2021.

Del Conte put out a vague statement supporting Herman right before signing day. When Horns247 asked Del Conte if the statement meant Herman was returning in 2021, Del Conte said, “Yes.”

But Eltife and Hartzell, who strongly supported gauging the interest of three-time national championship coach Urban Meyer beginning back in October, have made it clear since then they want to finish exploring their options before standing pat, sources told Horns247.

Earlier this month, UT’s flirtation with Meyer fizzled when Meyer told UT officials he wasn’t likely to return to college football coaching in 2021 due to health concerns and a changed landscape (i.e. the NCAA transfer portal and the likelihood of a one-time transfer rule).

Sources told Horns247 Meyer has expressed at least a passing interest in the possibility of coaching in the NFL, where there is more of an off-season and no transfer portal.

There has been no indication at this point Meyer would re-consider his stance on being a college head coach if nothing materializes for him in the NFL, sources told Horns247.

We’ve reported Texas spent time researching several coaches while also having conversations with Meyer, including Alabama offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian, Iowa State coach Matt Campbell, Penn State coach James Franklin and Oregon coach Mario Cristobal.

53COMMENTS

A high-ranking university source told Horns247 nothing will happen until the end of the college bowl season, when any coaches Texas might have an interest in would be more willing to talk.

There has been some buzz about Sarkisian and Texas, but the high-ranking university source said Sarkisian isn’t in any kind of pole position at this point.

Buckle up … and Merry Christmas!!

Fuck chip brown

[NoctambulantBrobdingnagian 567]

1 hour ago, ChampionshipLevelPiss said:

Yeah, I really can't tell if OP is being sarcastic or genuine here. Do they really think being a coach at Bama, under Saban of all people, is stress-free?

and you would equate that to being a head coach anywhere?

[Bevo14 8468]

7 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

FCB lol fuck this guy

When folks have been asking us about what’s going on with Tom Herman’s job security, I’ve said just let things play out.

That’s because nothing is going to happen before Texas’ Alamo Bowl matchup with Colorado on Dec. 29. After the college football bowl season has concluded, there will be a meeting of the minds involving athletic director Chris Del Conte, UT president Jay Hartzell and regents chairman Kevin Eltife about a final evaluation of the football program’s direction.

It’s at that point either things will get bonkers in terms of a search for a new coach or there will be silence, meaning Herman simply continues as coach in 2021.

Del Conte put out a vague statement supporting Herman right before signing day. When Horns247 asked Del Conte if the statement meant Herman was returning in 2021, Del Conte said, “Yes.”

But Eltife and Hartzell, who strongly supported gauging the interest of three-time national championship coach Urban Meyer beginning back in October, have made it clear since then they want to finish exploring their options before standing pat, sources told Horns247.

Earlier this month, UT’s flirtation with Meyer fizzled when Meyer told UT officials he wasn’t likely to return to college football coaching in 2021 due to health concerns and a changed landscape (i.e. the NCAA transfer portal and the likelihood of a one-time transfer rule).

Sources told Horns247 Meyer has expressed at least a passing interest in the possibility of coaching in the NFL, where there is more of an off-season and no transfer portal.

There has been no indication at this point Meyer would re-consider his stance on being a college head coach if nothing materializes for him in the NFL, sources told Horns247.

We’ve reported Texas spent time researching several coaches while also having conversations with Meyer, including Alabama offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian, Iowa State coach Matt Campbell, Penn State coach James Franklin and Oregon coach Mario Cristobal.

53COMMENTS

A high-ranking university source told Horns247 nothing will happen until the end of the college bowl season, when any coaches Texas might have an interest in would be more willing to talk.

There has been some buzz about Sarkisian and Texas, but the high-ranking university source said Sarkisian isn’t in any kind of pole position at this point.

Buckle up … and Merry Christmas!!

Yes. I'm sure the NFL is a vacation compared to CFB.

[Nicole44 22206]

8 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

FCB lol fuck this guy

When folks have been asking us about what’s going on with Tom Herman’s job security, I’ve said just let things play out.

That’s because nothing is going to happen before Texas’ Alamo Bowl matchup with Colorado on Dec. 29. After the college football bowl season has concluded, there will be a meeting of the minds involving athletic director Chris Del Conte, UT president Jay Hartzell and regents chairman Kevin Eltife about a final evaluation of the football program’s direction.

It’s at that point either things will get bonkers in terms of a search for a new coach or there will be silence, meaning Herman simply continues as coach in 2021.

Del Conte put out a vague statement supporting Herman right before signing day. When Horns247 asked Del Conte if the statement meant Herman was returning in 2021, Del Conte said, “Yes.”

But Eltife and Hartzell, who strongly supported gauging the interest of three-time national championship coach Urban Meyer beginning back in October, have made it clear since then they want to finish exploring their options before standing pat, sources told Horns247.

Earlier this month, UT’s flirtation with Meyer fizzled when Meyer told UT officials he wasn’t likely to return to college football coaching in 2021 due to health concerns and a changed landscape (i.e. the NCAA transfer portal and the likelihood of a one-time transfer rule).

Sources told Horns247 Meyer has expressed at least a passing interest in the possibility of coaching in the NFL, where there is more of an off-season and no transfer portal.

There has been no indication at this point Meyer would re-consider his stance on being a college head coach if nothing materializes for him in the NFL, sources told Horns247.

We’ve reported Texas spent time researching several coaches while also having conversations with Meyer, including Alabama offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian, Iowa State coach Matt Campbell, Penn State coach James Franklin and Oregon coach Mario Cristobal.

53COMMENTS

A high-ranking university source told Horns247 nothing will happen until the end of the college bowl season, when any coaches Texas might have an interest in would be more willing to talk.

There has been some buzz about Sarkisian and Texas, but the high-ranking university source said Sarkisian isn’t in any kind of pole position at this point.

Buckle up … and Merry Christmas!!

 

[Bevo&Pevo 5510]

2 hours ago, Blackcat00 said:

Heart Lee was on that team. I was being a little sarcastic with Yates but would be a great game. 

As great as the football team was then I got more enjoyment outta the basketball team.  We've probably crossed paths at the Benchmark or Elvira's at some point.

[Dbeasy 15533]

FCB lol fuck this guy
When folks have been asking us about what’s going on with Tom Herman’s job security, I’ve said just let things play out.
That’s because nothing is going to happen before Texas’ Alamo Bowl matchup with Colorado on Dec. 29. After the college football bowl season has concluded, there will be a meeting of the minds involving athletic director Chris Del Conte, UT president Jay Hartzell and regents chairman Kevin Eltife about a final evaluation of the football program’s direction.
It’s at that point either things will get bonkers in terms of a search for a new coach or there will be silence, meaning Herman simply continues as coach in 2021.
Del Conte put out a vague statement supporting Herman right before signing day. When Horns247 asked Del Conte if the statement meant Herman was returning in 2021, Del Conte said, “Yes.”
But Eltife and Hartzell, who strongly supported gauging the interest of three-time national championship coach Urban Meyer beginning back in October, have made it clear since then they want to finish exploring their options before standing pat, sources told Horns247.
Earlier this month, UT’s flirtation with Meyer fizzled when Meyer told UT officials he wasn’t likely to return to college football coaching in 2021 due to health concerns and a changed landscape (i.e. the NCAA transfer portal and the likelihood of a one-time transfer rule).
Sources told Horns247 Meyer has expressed at least a passing interest in the possibility of coaching in the NFL, where there is more of an off-season and no transfer portal.
There has been no indication at this point Meyer would re-consider his stance on being a college head coach if nothing materializes for him in the NFL, sources told Horns247.
We’ve reported Texas spent time researching several coaches while also having conversations with Meyer, including Alabama offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian, Iowa State coach Matt Campbell, Penn State coach James Franklin and Oregon coach Mario Cristobal.
53COMMENTS
A high-ranking university source told Horns247 nothing will happen until the end of the college bowl season, when any coaches Texas might have an interest in would be more willing to talk.
There has been some buzz about Sarkisian and Texas, but the high-ranking university source said Sarkisian isn’t in any kind of pole position at this point.
Buckle up … and Merry Christmas!!

I swear this guy just reads surly then drafts his posts.

[NoctambulantBrobdingnagian 567]

1 hour ago, NoctambulantBrobdingnagian said:

little known fact is that @South Austin was born the runt of seven in a litter of pups arising from seven sires each with a different sexually transmitted disease

narrator: no, this wasn't even close to being over the line

 

57 minutes ago, South Austin said:

The fuck, man?

sorry son

[runthebone 8325]

Chip Brown, since I know you're on here, FUCK YOU, you MOTHERFUCKER.

[Bigbend1812 13032]

17 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

FCB lol fuck this guy

 

I stopped reading right there. 

[TexasEx 1697]

Just now, Bigbend1812 said:

I stopped reading right there. 

You didn’t miss much. 

[pops 7125]

Could FCB backpedal any harder?   And he's not even consistent in his reporting. RD has more information than FCB. And RD doesn't know fuck all. 

[DFW Horn 6638]

4 minutes ago, runthebone said:

Chip Brown, since I know you're on here, FUCK YOU, you MOTHERFUCKER.

Such harsh tidings at yuletide

[Mr Orange 192]

He really wrote Urban is concerned with the transfer portal....fucking comical.

[Nicole44 22206]

1 minute ago, Dbeasy said:

I swear this guy just reads surly then drafts his posts.

I can do that too.

Roses are Red.

Violets are Blue.

Urban to Texas.

It’s all fucking true.

 

I accept cash payments!

 

 

 

[RGBIII 23012]

Obvious but still should be posted...

[Pam Cummings 9828]

I hope this whole process leads to people who are actually worth a fuck covering the team. Get chip brown and fat ketch the fuck out of this city.

[HenryJames 67137]

19 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I swear this guy just reads daytime surly then drafts his posts.

fify

[closetohumping 17786]

Is the OB poster JShorn?  He's been around forever.  I'd be inclined to think he ain't making shit up.

[Hagbard Celine 11176]

2 hours ago, Caddox said:

I haven’t heard anything different and am still holding to the same timeline. A guy I wouldn’t expect to know much claims UM shut down the process with us yesterday and then this morning a guy on obloods posted the same thing. I’ve already had two texts from friends asking what happened, so I’m expecting a lot of negative energy today. 
 

If UM really does tell us to kick rocks I will know shortly. We already dropped the money hammer on him but I’m sure he knows he can squeeze us for more. 

i am only reading 2-3 pages a day so did miss your IRL vouch?

[Hagbard Celine 11176]

1 hour ago, closetohumping said:

Surprised you held out this long.  Well played

caddox is responsible for a tremendous amount of lost productivity.

[Hiphopopotamos 21158]

13 minutes ago, Mr Orange said:

He really wrote Urban is concerned with the transfer portal....fucking comical.

Or that 'the NFL doesn't have a transfer portal'.  What the fuck does he think Free Agency is?

[90's_Horn 175]

15 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I can do that too.

Roses are Red.

Violets are Blue.

Urban to Texas.

It’s all fucking true.

 

I accept cash payments!

 

 

 

[Cuernavaca 255]

Finally got it sliced. Sorry no shoes in frame. 

[Caddox 952]

12 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Is the OB poster JShorn?  He's been around forever.  I'd be inclined to think he ain't making shit up.

Yea. Right when I saw his post I figured there would be doom and gloom about. He could easily be trolling though. He loves to fuck with the 9.95ers. 

[Pope Joan 68]

My personal take is this: I have a BIL who is a BMD of 30 years or so with TCU. That's mostly academic, Texas is his sports love. He was at both the Tech game and the TCU game, and after the latter he and some other TCU guys were schmoozing with UT BMDs, and it came up that enough was more than enough, and they were going for Urban, and that nothing Urban demanded would be denied. Following 0U, he heard the pursuit of Urban was headed into full blast mode. Sounded like some were ready to go write Urban a check on the spot and come home and fire #MensaTom immediately. I think that probably matches several others' information, as well.

Since then, I have looked at the slogging process as having been essentially successful, and with Urban calling all the shots, including timing. 

I was - and am - okay with Urban not being worried about "early" signing recruits, as the current NCAA climate appears to allow post LOI transfers of HS players coming in and any-class transfers playing immediately. Urban doesn't come across as arrogant, just self-assured, and I think he's probably 100% correct that he could take over in January and have more players wanting to join him than we have schollies for.

Is he still on the way here? I won't believe he's not until it's actually and officially announced by Urban and/or Chris. Doesn't mean it's not scary, but I don't see it as being outside the process going back to the early season, when we all saw that #MensaTom was still micro-managing, making horrible in-game decisions, and being his own special kind of half-drunk (explains a lot) dipshit.

Bottom line: Ain't givin' up yet.

[Hagbard Celine 11176]

24 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I accept cash payments!

so you're going pro?

[Bigbend1812 13032]

3 minutes ago, Pope Joan said:

My personal take is this: I have a BIL who is a BMD of 30 years or so with TCU. That's mostly academic, Texas is his sports love. He was at both the Tech game and the TCU game, and after the latter he and some other TCU guys were schmoozing with UT BMDs, and it came up that enough was more than enough, and they were going for Urban, and that nothing Urban demanded would be denied. Following 0U, he heard the pursuit of Urban was headed into full blast mode. Sounded like some were ready to go write Urban a check on the spot and come home and fire #MensaTom immediately. I think that probably matches several others' information, as well.

Since then, I have looked at the slogging process as having been essentially successful, and with Urban calling all the shots, including timing. 

I was - and am - okay with Urban not being worried about "early" signing recruits, as the current NCAA climate appears to allow post LOI transfers of HS players coming in and any-class transfers playing immediately. Urban doesn't come across as arrogant, just self-assured, and I think he's probably 100% correct that he could take over in January and have more players wanting to join him than we have schollies for.

Is he still on the way here? I won't believe he's not until it's actually and officially announced by Urban and/or Chris. Doesn't mean it's not scary, but I don't see it as being outside the process going back to the early season, when we all saw that #MensaTom was still micro-managing, making horrible in-game decisions, and being his own special kind of half-drunk (explains a lot) dipshit.

Bottom line: Ain't givin' up yet.

[Hagbard Celine 11176]

3 minutes ago, Pope Joan said:

My personal take is this: I have a BIL who is a BMD of 30 years or so with TCU. That's mostly academic, Texas is his sports love. He was at both the Tech game and the TCU game, and after the latter he and some other TCU guys were schmoozing with UT BMDs, and it came up that enough was more than enough, and they were going for Urban, and that nothing Urban demanded would be denied. Following 0U, he heard the pursuit of Urban was headed into full blast mode. Sounded like some were ready to go write Urban a check on the spot and come home and fire #MensaTom immediately. I think that probably matches several others' information, as well.

Since then, I have looked at the slogging process as having been essentially successful, and with Urban calling all the shots, including timing. 

I was - and am - okay with Urban not being worried about "early" signing recruits, as the current NCAA climate appears to allow post LOI transfers of HS players coming in and any-class transfers playing immediately. Urban doesn't come across as arrogant, just self-assured, and I think he's probably 100% correct that he could take over in January and have more players wanting to join him than we have schollies for.

Is he still on the way here? I won't believe he's not until it's actually and officially announced by Urban and/or Chris. Doesn't mean it's not scary, but I don't see it as being outside the process going back to the early season, when we all saw that #MensaTom was still micro-managing, making horrible in-game decisions, and being his own special kind of half-drunk (explains a lot) dipshit.

Bottom line: Ain't givin' up yet.

hi joan, please understand, that without a real-life vouch from someone who is already known on this board, your testimony reads to us like a penthouse-forum letter, or sec-fan-visits-pyle wishcasting.

[90's_Horn 175]

4 minutes ago, Pope Joan said:

My personal take is this: I have a BIL who is a BMD of 30 years or so with TCU. That's mostly academic, Texas is his sports love. He was at both the Tech game and the TCU game, and after the latter he and some other TCU guys were schmoozing with UT BMDs, and it came up that enough was more than enough, and they were going for Urban, and that nothing Urban demanded would be denied. Following 0U, he heard the pursuit of Urban was headed into full blast mode. Sounded like some were ready to go write Urban a check on the spot and come home and fire #MensaTom immediately. I think that probably matches several others' information, as well.

Since then, I have looked at the slogging process as having been essentially successful, and with Urban calling all the shots, including timing. 

I was - and am - okay with Urban not being worried about "early" signing recruits, as the current NCAA climate appears to allow post LOI transfers of HS players coming in and any-class transfers playing immediately. Urban doesn't come across as arrogant, just self-assured, and I think he's probably 100% correct that he could take over in January and have more players wanting to join him than we have schollies for.

Is he still on the way here? I won't believe he's not until it's actually and officially announced by Urban and/or Chris. Doesn't mean it's not scary, but I don't see it as being outside the process going back to the early season, when we all saw that #MensaTom was still micro-managing, making horrible in-game decisions, and being his own special kind of half-drunk (explains a lot) dipshit.

Bottom line: Ain't givin' up yet.

[Hagbard Celine 11176]

23 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

I hope this whole process leads to people who are actually worth a fuck covering the team. Get chip brown and fat ketch the fuck out of this city.

add krutbowels and every local austin tv head.

[90's_Horn 175]

1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

hi joan, please understand, that without a real-life vouch from someone who is already known on this board, your testimony reads to us like a penthouse-forum letter, or sec-fan-visits-pyle wishcasting.

[Pope Joan 68]

4 minutes ago, Bigbend1812 said:

You ain't far off here. Thanks (I think).

[closetohumping 17786]

14 minutes ago, Caddox said:

Yea. Right when I saw his post I figured there would be doom and gloom about. He could easily be trolling though. He loves to fuck with the 9.95ers. 

He does.  I don't remember him having any sources, but I think he may run in wealthy circles.

[Errestaurants 2570]

3 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I don't remember him having any sources, but I think he may run in wealthy circles.

Isn’t that 99.9% of surly posters 

[closetohumping 17786]

3 minutes ago, Errestaurants said:

Isn’t that 99.9% of surly posters 

99.8889.  I just lost 4% in the market.

[futureman 22678]

29 minutes ago, Pope Joan said:

My personal take is this: I have a BIL who is a BMD of 30 years or so with TCU. That's mostly academic, Texas is his sports love. He was at both the Tech game and the TCU game, and after the latter he and some other TCU guys were schmoozing with UT BMDs, and it came up that enough was more than enough, and they were going for Urban, and that nothing Urban demanded would be denied. Following 0U, he heard the pursuit of Urban was headed into full blast mode. Sounded like some were ready to go write Urban a check on the spot and come home and fire #MensaTom immediately. I think that probably matches several others' information, as well.

Since then, I have looked at the slogging process as having been essentially successful, and with Urban calling all the shots, including timing. 

I was - and am - okay with Urban not being worried about "early" signing recruits, as the current NCAA climate appears to allow post LOI transfers of HS players coming in and any-class transfers playing immediately. Urban doesn't come across as arrogant, just self-assured, and I think he's probably 100% correct that he could take over in January and have more players wanting to join him than we have schollies for.

Is he still on the way here? I won't believe he's not until it's actually and officially announced by Urban and/or Chris. Doesn't mean it's not scary, but I don't see it as being outside the process going back to the early season, when we all saw that #MensaTom was still micro-managing, making horrible in-game decisions, and being his own special kind of half-drunk (explains a lot) dipshit.

Bottom line: Ain't givin' up yet.

ain’t no female pope, bitch.  go make me a sandwich. 

[Caddox 952]

15 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

He does.  I don't remember him having any sources, but I think he may run in wealthy circles.

I know of him. He’s a member out at vaquero in south lake. Lawyer I believe. 

[Bigbend1812 13032]

21 hours ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

 

Speaking of bitches.....

[Nicole44 22206]

——————

‘‘Twas the night before Christmas when all thru the thirsty 40, not a whiff of credible news, what happened to that gal port o potty?

The BDE was really hung by the firepit with flare. Surlies guzzling whisky/whiskey waiting for Urban to show up there. 

The 9.95’ers were restless spewing their usual nonsense and dread while visions of desperate subscribers twerked in their heads.

Nightcrew rocking the hope while the Daycrew rocking the clap, Eltife’s already gathered the millions by passing the hat.

When out in the football world there arose such a clatter, FUPM tripped on his squatty potty and emptied his bladder.

away to the bay window nicole44 flew like a flash and (...paywall lol) the internet did crash

Those 9.95’ers with their sources who know those in the know. Reading their shit is like dipping a McRibb in a bowl of Mayo.

When what on FLIGHTAWARE should appear but Urban our new HC riding a flying Longhorn steer. 
———————

Fuck it! Merry early Christmas surly! It’s happening. Miracles do happen! Urban or Bust!

I have had more fun on this board in the past odd month or so than most of the entire year! Y’all are awesome. Thanks for not crowd sourcing me and letting me be me and post here! 

(My UT graduation day)

[Cairn Horn88 8500]

40 minutes ago, 90's_Horn said:

'Tis the season to be jolly
Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-la!

Merry Christmas....ya filthy animals!

[closetohumping 17786]

3 minutes ago, Caddox said:

I know of him. He’s a member out at vaquero in south lake. Lawyer I believe. 

I think so.  He can troll, but he may be right here

[BlackChicken 60]

Great pic 

[fattyflattie 4640]

3 hours ago, Blackcat00 said:

Heart Lee was on that team. I was being a little sarcastic with Yates but would be a great game. 

csb Hart Lee Dykes lives down the street from me.  He has a huge black poodle that he keeps off the leash with no fucks given. Looks like a damn horse.  Every single day he hums a tennis ball for him over and over while out on a walk.  He can sling that things waaaaaay out.  His kids do the lawn and keep it in outstanding condition. 

[cmontexas 3332]

6 hours ago, Mother mopar said:

12 hours ago, cmontexas said:

Got dumped by my 21yo girlfriend. Need somewhere to house this BDE

Weird, pix of said GF are not showing up.

 

[Pope Joan 68]

13 minutes ago, futureman said:

ain’t no female pope, bitch.  go make me a sandwich. 

You're still as stupid as ever. I heard you used to be funny. Too bad.

[futureman 22678]

Just now, Pope Joan said:

You're still as stupid as ever. I heard you used to be funny. Too bad.

your handle makes me laugh. 

[hornfromdallas 334]

3 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

 

shes for the streets now bruh

at least u had the opportunity to turn her into a glizzy goblin 

[Pope Joan 68]

3 minutes ago, futureman said:

your handle makes me laugh. 

That's fair. Nothing about you makes anyone laugh.

[futureman 22678]

Just now, Pope Joan said:

That's fair. Nothing about you makes anyone laugh.

still waiting for my sandwich. 

[90's_Horn 175]

18 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

——————

‘‘Twas the night before Christmas when all thru the thirsty 40, not a whiff of credible news, what happened to that gal port o potty?

The BDE was really hung by the firepit with flare. Surlies guzzling whisky/whiskey waiting for Urban to show up there. 

The 9.95’ers were restless spewing their usual nonsense and dread while visions of desperate subscribers twerked in their heads.

Nightcrew rocking the hope while the Daycrew rocking the clap, Eltife’s already gathered the millions by passing the hat.

When out in the football world there arose such a clatter, FUPM tripped on his squatty potty and emptied his bladder.

away to the bay window nicole44 flew like a flash and (...paywall lol) the internet did crash

Those 9.95’ers with their sources who know those in the know. Reading their shit is like dipping a McRibb in a bowl of Mayo.

When what on FLIGHTAWARE should appear but Urban our new HC riding a flying Longhorn steer. 
———————

Fuck it! Merry early Christmas surly! It’s happening. Miracles do happen! Urban or Bust!

I have had more fun on this board in the past odd month or so than most of the entire year! Y’all are awesome. Thanks for not crowd sourcing me and letting me be me and post here! 

(My UT graduation day)