Urban Meyer or bust

[wood 11105]

10 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

be that as it may, we did what we were supposed to do then.  we beat a shit team by 30+ points behind two kids that Herman underused/didn't use all season.  if Sam hadn't gotten hurt, what's the final score?  do we win by 32?  i highly doubt it.  

as has been stated, last night was an indictment of Herman's ineptitude.  he "lucked" into a blowout bowl win because his starting QB got hurt, so he put the backup in, simplified things, and we lit Colorado up.  same fucking thing in last year's bowl game.  Orlando is no longer DC, so have to simplify the defense under interim DC Naivar.  and boom, we stuff the shit out of Utah.

Herman gets in his own way time after time after time trying to Mensa shit up.  it's time, buddy.

All of this.

[Drew 2331]

2 minutes ago, Mikey4 said:

The Colorado win means nothing. Herman has his strengths, and one of them is winning bowl games. We know that. But he also has severe weaknesses, such as

1) not being able to compete with OU,

2) not getting to the Big 12 championship game,

3) inexplicably losing routine conference games,

4) playing weaker teams waaaay too close,

5) letting out of state programs pillage our state in recruiting, and

6) not even being part of the national/playoff discussion.

Beating a 4-win Colorado team with a month to prepare does nothing to fix the problems facing this program.

It absolutely DID tell us something.  That, when the coaches got out of the way, the talent of this team is enough to destroy lesser programs.  Maybe someone needed to see that and realize the coaching was holding them back.

[Dewey 3280]

Urban certainly would not throw 3 straight times with a lead late in the game, punt and watch the other team score the winning td with seconds left on the clock. Urban would be closer to giving Bijan 80 carries in a game thann80 carries in a season. 

[Surly Bevo 24692]

It says a lot about the recent coaching history of the program that many of the good/great moments of the last 20 years have been a result of "the coaches getting out of the way"

Edited December 30, 2020 by Surly Bevo

[dcar00 14023]

1 minute ago, wood said:

Yeah this 6-3 team could/should have easily been 5-4 or 4-5. With THAT talent and a senior 'Heisman watch' qb (snicker), in a really bad year for the Big 12, with a terrible OU sucks. Anyone who thinks TH should be retained should have zero input.

agreed but we also could have been 9-0 if everything went our way(which it didn't and never does).   We are what our record says we are and what Mensa is.  He is an above average P5 coach.  If that is what we want keep him and drive the train into the ditch.

[South Austin 52037]

6 minutes ago, immamac said:

There's a bunch of other threads to talk about the tom herman suckage and era coming to an end. This thread is to talk about how excited Urban Meyer will be to coach Casey Thompson and Bijan Robinson next season. 

And McRibs.

[immamac 42492]

5 minutes ago, South Austin said:

And McRibs.

Urban is definitely coming to Texas because of the number of mcribs we have purchased and consumed as a show of our devotion to him. 

[South Austin 52037]

Just now, immamac said:

Urban is definitely coming to Texas because of the number of mcribs we have purchased and consumed as a show of our devotion to him. 

But you still need a haircut before Urban officially signs.

[msucolt45 3982]

Change has to be made after this season. The last decade of Texas football has been mediocre at best. Yes we’ve won bowl games and even a Sugar Bowl, but every season/year has seen two-three games that were WTF loses - within conference. Charlie had his Cal games and Herman has Maryland for out of conference examples.

Last night, with less games played this year, did break the streak of 4 or more losses in a season. I think that the streak had grown to 10 YEARS! I’m tired of the Horns being mediocre.

Although I enjoyed watching the Horns play last night and in person, I want them in playoffs or at least bigger and better bowls. We need to leave the Alamo Bowl alone for a while!

[runthebone 7929]

17 minutes ago, immamac said:

There's a bunch of other threads to talk about the tom herman suckage and era coming to an end. This thread is to talk about how excited Urban Meyer will be to coach Casey Thompson and Bijan Robinson next season. 

Well, this thread is about a lot of things...

[Burt Macklin 18988]

10 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

agreed but we also could have been 9-0 if everything went our way(which it didn't and never does).   We are what our record says we are and what Mensa is.  He is an above average P5 coach.  If that is what we want keep him and drive the train into the ditch.

Herman right now is not an above average P5 coach at all. He’s routinely out coached and underperforms with the talent he has. He’s average at best. He might get better in the future if he’s willing to ever take responsibility for his failures, but he hasn’t shown the ability to do that at Texas in 4 years. 

[dcar00 14023]

5 minutes ago, immamac said:

Urban is definitely coming to Texas because of the number of mcribs we have purchased and consumed as a show of our devotion to him. 

maybe the term "eating the mcribs" will replace "drinking the kool aid"

[Cap33 381]

4 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

maybe the term "eating the mcribs" will replace "drinking the kool aid"

[Gene Parmesan 3992]

1 minute ago, Burt Macklin said:

Herman right now is not an above average P5 coach at all. He’s routinely out coached and underperforms with the talent he has. He’s average at best. He might get better in the future if he’s willing to ever take responsibility for his failures, but he hasn’t shown the ability to do that at Texas in 4 years. 

Average may be a stretch.  The recruiting gap between TEX/OU and the rest of the big12 is huge.  Imagine Herman at another p5 program where he doesn't get that advantage.

[dcar00 14023]

6 minutes ago, msucolt45 said:

Change has to be made after this season. The last decade of Texas football has been mediocre at best. Yes we’ve won bowl games and even a Sugar Bowl, but every season/year has seen two-three games that were WTF loses - within conference. Charlie had his Cal games and Herman has Maryland for out of conference examples.

Last night, with less games played this year, did break the streak of 4 or more losses in a season. I think that the streak had grown to 10 YEARS! I’m tired of the Horns being mediocre.

Although I enjoyed watching the Horns play last night and in person, I want them in playoffs or at least bigger and better bowls. We need to leave the Alamo Bowl alone for a while!

I(and probably others) might be a bit more patient with Herman if we hadn't had the  3year, worst coach of all time, Charlie debacle.  CDC signed up for the gig and its his job to fix it and Urban Meyer is acting like he wants to coach again.

[dcar00 14023]

1 minute ago, Cap33 said:

thanks.  I will get it started.  Maybe I'm just eating the mcribs here but I think Casey Thompson could be the next Vince Young.

[Bigbend1812 12877]

[Burt Macklin 18988]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

I(and probably others) might be a bit more patient with Herman if we hadn't had the  3year, worst coach of all time, Charlie debacle.  CDC signed up for the gig and its his job to fix it and Urban Meyer is acting like he wants to coach again.

I don’t think Charlie has anything to do with it. I want Herman gone because he hasn’t learned a single lesson in his four years here. There are no signs of coaching improvement at all, just a more talented roster.

He was forced to make assistant changes. He’s making the some stupid game management decisions, he has no clue what to do with his OL or how to identify a good OL coach, he continually fails to fit his schemes to his personnel, and he runs the same exact stuff over and regardless of whether our team can run it or the defense’s weaknesses. 

[dcar00 14023]

4 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Average may be a stretch.  The recruiting gap between TEX/OU and the rest of the big12 is huge.  Imagine Herman at another p5 program where he doesn't get that advantage.

I want Herman gone as much as anyone but the guy is at least average to above average IMO.  Hopefully CDC isn't looking for average to above average and we aren't deciding to be Cal.

[FloridaHorn 4735]

12 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

maybe the term "eating the mcribs" will replace "drinking the kool aid"

but only for a limited time.

[Horn80 6074]

5 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

He was forced to make assistant changes. He’s making the some stupid game management decisions, he has no clue what to do with his OL or how to identify a good OL coach, he continually fails to fit his schemes to his personnel, and he runs the same exact stuff over and regardless of whether our team can run it or the defense’s weaknesses. 

Pay him.  Pay that man his money.

[closetohumping 17380]

I just had a McRib last night

 

 

Back to Herm the worm, the ultimatum was "win the conference or hit the road" right?

[66BUFF 2544]

1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

Colorado was small and slow and horribly overmatched.  That was a fun game/win but that was a shitty fucking opponent who if they had played a full regular season would have likely not have rated even an Alamo Bowl appearance.

 

They had a 6 point when over a shitty UCLA team

A 3 point win over a Stanford team that I guarantee you was playing against the will of the entire leadership of the school and this was their most "impressive" win)

10 point win over SDSU 

11 point win over Rumlin

Got killed by Utah

Correct.

 

We got the Alamo when SC said no to a bowl game.

[Horn80 6074]

8 minutes ago, Bigbend1812 said:

McDonalds should send Surly a check.

[Bevo14 8260]

13 minutes ago, Gene Parmesan said:

Average may be a stretch.  The recruiting gap between TEX/OU and the rest of the big12 is huge.  Imagine Herman at another p5 program where he doesn't get that advantage.

I don't know. I feel like his underdog style lends itself to a pretty robust 7-5/8-4 record. He and/or his staff evaluates recruits pretty well and he'd win a few he shouldn't and lose a few he shouldn't at a less talented program. Some bottom tier p5 school would probably be a good match.

[dcar00 14023]

5 minutes ago, 66BUFF said:

Correct.

 

We got the Alamo when SC said no to a bowl game.

KSU would stomp that Colorado team...

Urban would be playing the scout team by the second quarter on both of them.

[Daichee Bell 2925]

2 hours ago, Newy25 said:

 If anything, last night made it easier to find Herman a landing spot. 

Woulda been a hard landing spot if Michelle got that door open 

[Errestaurants 2570]

1 hour ago, ClubWhatever said:

Football is not hard.  Play your best players.  Do things they do well.  Profit. 

Man... that just sounds way to hard. Always remember, winning is really hard. 

[Griff 513]

Just did my part and sacrificed my arteries at lunch with a McRib combo to help bring Urban to Austin to lead us back to the promised land.  

[HornyPony69 212]

People still posting bbq here for good luck? For last nights game


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[Hiphopopotamos 20865]

PM @Armybrat for a link to his pic posting instructional video

[UrbanTheMeyer 67]

I want a McRib right now but I also want a chicken sandwich and cfa is way closer than mickey d's...

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[Hiphopopotamos 20865]

Gerry's response to that Oatmeal Creme Pie Eatin' Puta tweet about Texas firing Herman:

[closetohumping 17380]

2 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Gerry's response to that Oatmeal Creme Pie Eatin' Puta tweet about Texas firing Herman:

It’s a site off!

[South Austin 52037]

3 minutes ago, UrbanTheMeyer said:

I want a McRib right now but I also want a chicken sandwich

[RGBIII 22798]

4 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

Gerry's response to that Oatmeal Creme Pie Eatin' Puta tweet about Texas firing Herman:

Actually think he is referring to Brian Davis who was quoted by Twinkie Titties

[ztejas 43244]

57 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

Some bottom tier p5 school would probably be a good match.

Like Tennessee.

[CowtownHorn 5126]

Cowtown Funkytown present and accounted for.

 

[gmr548 16463]

If you give Herman 10-3 this season (which is obviously purely hypothetical and I'm sure the bowl matchup would have been different) he would have been 28-12 over the past 3 seasons. Which is marginally better than Mack's 25-14 - and Mack had much less talent on the field (obviously through no fault of his own - but still underlies why Herman needs to go).
With the shortened season this year Herman is 25-12 to Mack's 25-14. Both had one win against OU. If you thought Mack should go after 2013 then it's pretty fucking hypocritical to try and wishcast Herman back for 2021 (not accusing you of this - just putting it out there because there are A LOT of people it applies to).

Does anyone want Herman back though? There’s a difference between being skeptical he’ll get fired and not wanting him to.

[Enchubben 5509]

1 minute ago, gmr548 said:

Does anyone want Herman back though? There’s a difference between being skeptical he’ll get fired and not wanting him to.

Futureman’s anus. Does that count?

[cafe society 2835]

6 hours ago, Harvdog said:

What I saw last night that impressed me was the OL.  We had 4 Freshman and a Junior starting.  Christian Jones is getting better.  Karic was solid.  Majors will be a starter from here on out.  Tyler Johnson looked good.  The next OL coach is walking into some talent.  

That's the key.  No one believes these players will develop otherwise.

[Armybrat 40678]

25 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

PM @Armybrat for a link to his pic posting instructional video

Where’s that bird flip emoji?

[cafe society 2835]

3 hours ago, RGBIII said:

God I hope that Oatmeal Cream Pie Puta is right for once

Banner worthy.

[elguapo 4583]

The game last night just pissed me off more. It’s absolutely unacceptable that Herman lost 3 games in the big 12 this season with the roster we have. What a massive fucking failure, if Herman had any honor he would have committed seppuku at midfield after the game last night.

[TexasGolf 4854]

1 hour ago, Dewey said:

Urban certainly would not throw 3 straight times with a lead late in the game, punt and watch the other team score the winning td with seconds left on the clock. Urban would be closer to giving Bijan 80 carries in a game thann80 carries in a season. 

bijan will be his Zeke

[ztejas 43244]

11 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Does anyone want Herman back though?

There are people on this board that want Herman back. Not sure they are comfortable penning it but they do. 

You think there aren't people outside of Surly that think we should keep Herman? Go scroll through Twitter for a little bit.

[BabaYaga 15202]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Go scroll through Twitter

I'd rather stuff pipe cleaners up my peen hole

[UncleBuck 6444]

Some Day Shift Spares

[Underdog 28437]

Word of advice, don't search Oatmeal Cream Pie eatin' Puta on pornhub...  just, don't.  

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

20 minutes ago, ztejas said:

There are people on this board that want Herman back. Not sure they are comfortable penning it but they do. 

You think there aren't people outside of Surly that think we should keep Herman? Go scroll through Twitter for a little bit.

My neighbor was talking about how excited he is to see Herman open up the offense with Casey next year. I'm thinking about moving now