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Here's the thing that makes me absolutely livid about this... Cheating happens all the time in baseball. At all levels. All levels. The MLB itself cheats the game by juicing the ball. Players juiced t

Asithappens
Asithappens

It's not the end, I agree. The Astros are still sacks of giant shit, though.  Shame on them.

Asithappens
Asithappens

Very sad to see that the Astros are basically dipshit cheaters from the top down. Hey, at least the Black Sox are happy that someone else is wearing their crown of infamy.    

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Rockethorn1978

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3 minutes ago, Seasick Sailor said:

Loss of the draft picks is likely the the worst part of this:

 

Such an overreaction statement for the moment. Catastrophic? LOL. Trades can easily fill in the gaps and we have a shit ton of tradeable guys that would get the best there is to offer in replenishing your farm system. 

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10 minutes ago, Scraps said:

I actually expected the fine to be way higher. I dont really think this is a huge issue we are still gonna beat ass this year.

Main problem as mentioned is the picks. Even more reason to lockdown Springer now cause our farm system is gonna be kind of worthless for big league talent

Correa became an even bigger trade chip today, because you are going to need him to recoup some of the lost capital from the draft. Also, Astros need to go sign the Cuban Ohtani.

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13 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Such an overreaction statement for the moment. Catastrophic? LOL. Trades can easily fill in the gaps and we have a shit ton of tradeable guys that would get the best there is to offer in replenishing your farm system. 

Perhaps, but the Astros have made a habit of drafting guys early in the draft and signing them for below-slot and using the savings to select guys later in the draft who they offer above-slot bonuses. The loss of the slot values for these picks will affect that strategy. So the ramifications go further than simply losing four picks. 

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8 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:


You know what should enrage the dodgers?
Yu Darvish

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Indeed.  But the way he got roped in game 7, it was almost like Astros hitters knew what was coming.

I've mentioned it before, but Luhnow was in the class ahead of me in HS.  Nice enough guy.  Pretty vanilla.  But fuck him.

 

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11 minutes ago, Seasick Sailor said:

Perhaps, but the Astros have made a habit of drafting guys early in the draft and signing them for below-slot and using the savings to select guys later in the draft who they offer above-slot bonuses. The loss of the slot values for these picks will affect that strategy. So the ramifications go further than simply losing four picks. 

I'm just not into over the top statements like "catastrophic" over 4 picks. Catastrophic is never drafting again. Say this will sting a little then ok but far from catastrophic.

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22 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Such an overreaction statement for the moment. Catastrophic? LOL. Trades can easily fill in the gaps and we have a shit ton of tradeable guys that would get the best there is to offer in replenishing your farm system. 

Without 1st and 2nd round picks you’re fucked.  These are the players in Houston’s roster that were either drafted in the first 2 rounds or acquired by trading a player who was drafted  in the first 2 rounds:

Correa

Bregman

Tucker

Springer

Verlander (Cameron)

Greinke (Beer)

McCullers

Biagini (Fisher)

Osuna (Giles>Appel/Velasquez)

 

The Astros are now completely fucked from 2022 until at least 2025.

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1 minute ago, Snake Diggity said:

Without 1st and 2nd round picks you’re fucked.  These are the players in Houston’s roster that were either drafted in the first 2 rounds or acquired by trading a player who was drafted  in the first 2 rounds:

Correa

Bregman

Tucker

Springer

Verlander (Cameron)

Greinke (Beer)

McCullers

Biagini (Fisher)

Osuna (Giles>Appel/Velasquez)

 

The Astros are now completely fucked from 2022 until at least 2025.

Spend more internationally and in free agency. Losing 4 players who aren't guaranteed to pan out is not going to cost the team half a decade...these arent #1 overall guys we are talking about, these are late first and second round picks. It hurts but its not some death sentence. If the team needs to rebuild and strengthen the farm there are plenty of ways to do so

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2 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

Without 1st and 2nd round picks you’re fucked.  These are the players in Houston’s roster that were either drafted in the first 2 rounds or acquired by trading a player who was drafted  in the first 2 rounds:

Correa

Bregman

Tucker

Springer

Verlander (Cameron)

Greinke (Beer)

McCullers

Biagini (Fisher)

Osuna (Giles>Appel/Velasquez)

 

The Astros are now completely fucked from 2022 until at least 2025.

The astros are loaded and have the infrastructure to withstand two years of 1st and 2nd round picks they get to keep the other rounds as well and can still make trades to replenish since we all know now that Crane isn't going to go deep into the tax so we aren't keeping all these guys around.

Stop with the fucking dramatics. We aren't fucked, it sucks and will hurt but we are far from being "fucked".

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30 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

No, it's not.  Fuck the Astros.  Cheated to win the WS.  That's what's bullshit.  If you don't think this could have been the difference in a series that went 7 games, you're deluding yourself.

Dodger tears are almost as tasty as Yankee tears. Take it to the MLB offseason thread. 

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39 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Such an overreaction statement for the moment. Catastrophic? LOL. Trades can easily fill in the gaps and we have a shit ton of tradeable guys that would get the best there is to offer in replenishing your farm system. 

Plus, the international stuff was not touched at all.  I'd rather have all my draft picks taken away than have international signings limited. 

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