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Bump. because I wish they'd hurry up with this.  I really enjoyed season one, and am looking forward to some new episodes.  I saw a couple other sites that speculated the new season might be released by October or November of this year, but since they admit they're just speculating, I don't know how much credence to give them.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/csi-wallace-langham-perry-mason-season-2-hbo-1235307030/

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On 12/11/2022 at 1:55 PM, Hornbeliever said:

Exactly.  I can't remember much but know I looked forward to it each week. I have to watch last 20 minutes at least or some YouTube summary some dork did for people like me.

I flipped on HBO go and thought I had selected the new season. 20 minutes into the trial of the last season the wife says, haven’t we seen this already?  
 

I’m an idiot.  
 

But it did help refresh my memory of what happened. 

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3 hours ago, Player said:

I wasn't sure about that either, but since Goldstein had also received a summons from the grand jury, the inference was that Old Man McCutcheon is murdering anyone who might testify against him, including his own son. 

 

Was that Old Man McCutcheon?

I thought it was one of the guys that the murdered McCutcheon was pitching the baseball team nonsense to, who was telling him it wouldn't work.  I thought his dad was a different actor.

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Okay, this is from an episode recap:

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In the following scene, Charlie is brutally murdered, and Mr. Crippen, another wealthy man with ties to McCutcheon, is notified of the act. Satisfied with the news, he burns a piece of paper which reveals that Brooks McCutcheon had received a subpoena, just like Goldstein did. Is it a coincidence that both men died soon after being served? Mr. Crippen was involved in the murder of Goldstein. Could it be that he ordered the murder of Brooks McCutcheon as well? If so, why is Mr. Crippen so afraid of the subpoena? What did he think would come to light if Goldstein and Brooks spoke to the law?

 

So that subpoena that Crippen tossed into the fire was for Brooks.

I guess all we really know is that Goldstein supplied the produce for Brooks' casino boats, and that Brooks owned the boats, the boating operation was scamming its creditors, and both Goldstein and Brooks were murdered after receiving a grand jury summons.

And someone planted a Santa Monica phone number in the evidence box with Brooks' belongings.

So that's what we know.

Along with the fact that Gretchen Mol apparently does not age.

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No Ruettiger this week!

With next week’s preview, I guess the conceit is the brothers did do it? I hope the one’s wife gets more screen time, she’s feisty.

I need to rewatch S2E1 because I’m still behind on what happened to Drake’s mark. Was it just LAPD picking brown labor over black?

EDIT: The mcCutcheon dad sounds like Valchek from the Wire.

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1 hour ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

I need to rewatch S2E1 because I’m still behind on what happened to Drake’s mark. Was it just LAPD picking brown labor over black?

They used Drake's surveillance to build a case for racketeering. Basically not happy that a black man was running part of the city, even if he was peaceful. I'd imagine it will tie into the larger narrative with the McCutcheons later. I have to say the part with Drake is one of my favorite parts of the show. I really like that they are staying true to the times and his story has extra moments of tension given he's more at risk than Perry or Della because he's a black man in the early 1930s. 

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Okay, just now had the opportunity to watch episode 3.

So the Gallardo boys rented a gun from the "dealer" in Hooverville, and therefore they actually shot Brooks?  But Perry's measuring tape research convinced him they didn't.  Somehow.

But that would explain the younger one's fingerprint on the car, and their possession of the wallet.

So what, then?  Perry will lose the case but expose a bigger scandal?

My gut's telling me that, somehow, the Gallardo boys are innocent, so the frame up of them was more than just one of opportunity, but deliberately orchestrated.  We'll see how wrong I am.

Who put the phone number to the mental hospital in Brooks' wallet and why?  Obviously someone who wants to bring down the McCutcheons, so that leaves us with the swimming pool oil chick?

What was the point of showing us that Detective Holcomb has a family?  Or was the point just to show us that he has a fat wad of cash, and that he wants to get his family out of LA?

Perry needs to warn his son that at some point a few years from now, his mom's gonna try to bang him.

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On 3/21/2023 at 7:47 AM, mdmost said:

I really like that they are staying true to the times and his story has extra moments of tension given he's more at risk than Perry or Della because he's a black man in the early 1930s. 

That, and the fact that LA is a shithole.

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I'm admittedly still lost, but I was left with the impression that brothers had been renting the gun quite a bit and "practicing," as Drake said, so they were able to make the shot that killed McCutcheon, but it obviously wasn't a random mugging gone wrong.

Someone hired them to take him out and paid handsomely, thus the bag full of cash hidden under the old car.  The kids are confessing to the murder but not telling the whole story for fear their family will lose the cash or be harmed by whoever hired them.

Am I missing something?

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5 hours ago, Augustus said:

I'm admittedly still lost, but I was left with the impression that brothers had been renting the gun quite a bit and "practicing," as Drake said, so they were able to make the shot that killed McCutcheon, but it obviously wasn't a random mugging gone wrong.

Someone hired them to take him out and paid handsomely, thus the bag full of cash hidden under the old car.  The kids are confessing to the murder but not telling the whole story for fear their family will lose the cash or be harmed by whoever hired them.

Am I missing something?

Maybe I misinterpreted the scene at the end with the car. 

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8 hours ago, Augustus said:

And yeah, Ms Street's hiding a nice, firm looking bod under those dresses.

i always thought she was hot, but seeing her nude was a nice surprise.  i do wish they wouldnt spend so much time on her love story though.  it makes me wonder if they arent intentionally trying to get us interested because they plan a spinoff.  the show is called perry mason.

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8 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

i always thought she was hot, but seeing her nude was a nice surprise.  i do wish they wouldnt spend so much time on her love story though.  it makes me wonder if they arent intentionally trying to get us interested because they plan a spinoff.  the show is called perry mason.

But nobody wants to see Perry Mason naked.

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So, thinking about this a little bit more.

This contract killing of McCutcheon wasn't solely to take him out, but part of a larger plot to, I'm assuming, ruin the whole McCutcheon family.  Thus, the phone number getting stuffed into the evidence box to lead the defense team to the discovery of the gal in the mental facility who happened to be married to an important city councilman.  No idea how that relates to old man McCutcheon's oil business but we're not supposed to know yet.

So, the bad guy has to be the rich lady Della dined with during the piano lesson, right?  She profits if McCutcheon goes down, doesn't she?  Isn't she an oil baroness?

Can't imagine why else she'd be getting so much screen time. 

And I'm still puzzled by what's going on with Detective Holcombe.  What were those ships importing?  Heroin?  Foreign oil?  Rubber Dog Shit from Hong Kong?

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13 hours ago, Augustus said:

So, thinking about this a little bit more.

This contract killing of McCutcheon wasn't solely to take him out, but part of a larger plot to, I'm assuming, ruin the whole McCutcheon family.  Thus, the phone number getting stuffed into the evidence box to lead the defense team to the discovery of the gal in the mental facility who happened to be married to an important city councilman.  No idea how that relates to old man McCutcheon's oil business but we're not supposed to know yet.

So, the bad guy has to be the rich lady Della dined with during the piano lesson, right?  She profits if McCutcheon goes down, doesn't she?  Isn't she an oil baroness?

Can't imagine why else she'd be getting so much screen time. 

And I'm still puzzled by what's going on with Detective Holcombe.  What were those ships importing?  Heroin?  Foreign oil?  Rubber Dog Shit from Hong Kong?

there also has to be an arc to the ruthless dickhead grocer.  why would they spend time on that story if it didnt tie into something?  I hadnt thought about the rich lady having a part in this.  i've thought all along it was the father.  he was fighting with his son quite a bit, plus he seems to be threatened by perry investigating.  

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It's probably the oil lady but Brooks McCutcheon and the grocer were both being summoned before a grand jury that was probably investigating something with the McCutcheon father. After the grocer was killed, there was the scene with the person calling the party the father was at to say the grocer had been taken care of. The person who took the call then burned a grand jury summons. 

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16 hours ago, thrillhammer said:

there also has to be an arc to the ruthless dickhead grocer.  why would they spend time on that story if it didnt tie into something?  I hadnt thought about the rich lady having a part in this.  i've thought all along it was the father.  he was fighting with his son quite a bit, plus he seems to be threatened by perry investigating.  

Interesting point.

So far, the purpose he's served is as a revenue stream for Mason's firm so they can afford to take the pro-bono defense of the Mexican boys.

But you may be right and it's probably not coincidence that he's in the same business as the Goldstein dude who got whacked due to his being summoned before the grand jury.

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Well that was fascinating.

Somebody paid the 2023 equivalent of over 200 grand to whack McCutcheon, and then planted a fingerprint to ensure the triggermen get caught.

Whoever that is has the juice to pressure Burger into offering a deal, to put an end to Perry's investigation of the crime, and Burger seemed pretty nervous that Mason turned it down.  And the only thing Perry had really discovered by that point was the Councilman's wife (right?) in the nut house.

And the middleman on the McCutcheon hit was ordered to stop selling smack to some rich dude's wife, which brings me back to my question about what the ships were importing, which seems obvious now (to me) to be opium to be processed into heroin (or the finished product itself).  And the converse sneakers dude said they never stop coming back--unless they're dead.  Or, perhaps, in psychiatric hospital.  So I guess she was McCutcheon's mistress.

Goldstein the produce supply guy was in on it at some level and I guess Brooks had to be, as well?  Or maybe neither were really privy to what was really going on but their grand jury testimony would have raised too many questions.

I'm pretty sure I've got it figured out.  Because, before we ever meet this character, we're told that he'd done two prison terms, and one of those was in the United States.

The guy behind all this is clearly Virgil Sollozzo.

 

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I think the lady in the nuthouse is the sister of the councilman, and former side piece of Brooks.

Perry destroyed the bus driver on cross, and planted the seed for reasonable doubt. But I still think old man mccutcheon ordered the hit.

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