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Michael Bloomberg for President 2020


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17 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

A-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha............................................................ ha !

 

Well..... he will save us from the dreaded killer soft drinks, so there's that.  You democrats have some fine folks running.

Out of curiosity, who do you think is the smarter, more successful and respected business man: Trump or Bloomberg?

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11 hours ago, Henry Hill said:

Old white billionaires are a no go but old white millionaires are what this country needs.

First of all, there is literally a thousand times difference between millionaires and billionaires.  Millionaires, at the age of these candidates, is now upper middle class.  If you don't have a million in the 401k by the time you retire, you aren't going to enjoy retirement much. Billionaires are 1%ers. They don't live in the same country. 

Secondly, it's a completely different story.  Bloomberg is a Wall Street, corporate CEO guy.  Warren is a college prof who got into politics for consumer protection issues.  Mayor Pete is a veteran who became a mayor.  Sanders is a politician who has focused on economic justice issues for 90 years.  Biden, something something riding a train.  

Bloomberg's story would have been a challenge 15 years ago in the Democratic Party. In today's environment, after the Wall Street Bailout, after the Tax Cut to the Wealthy, after we watch corporation after corporation bow to Trump to feed at the trough, there is no way.  You think it was tough to get BernieBros to the polls for Hillary?  I'm relatively moderate, and I would have a problem donating my time and money to a part time Republican, Wall Street billionaire. Bloomberg is far, far from a safe bet in the general election.  

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23 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Out of curiosity, who do you think is the smarter, more successful and respected business man: Trump or Bloomberg?

 

His opinion is irrelevant.  He still thinks Trump is less corrupt than Hillary.  He doesn't live in reality.

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3 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

A-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha............................................................ ha !

 

Well..... he will save us from the dreaded killer soft drinks, so there's that.  You democrats have some fine folks running.

 

I know you are attempting to be sarcastic and funny (and failing miserably), but actually the dems do have some fine folks running.

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22 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I know you are attempting to be sarcastic and funny (and failing miserably), but actually the dems do have some fine folks running.

 Of course I'm failing miserably you because it's right in your wheelhouse and yes they do have a couple quality people Bernie and Mrs. Warren other than that trash 

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54 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

 Of course I'm failing miserably you because it's right in your wheelhouse and yes they do have a couple quality people Bernie and Mrs. Warren other than that trash 

 

How about this: How about you actually defend DOTARD on one thing. One fucking thing that he has done that is not either absolutely pathetic, evil, or just plain stupid. Every fucking post you make is either a But __________ (insert name here, probably either female or minority) or a bad joke.

 

 

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Just now, Red Five said:

I did not know that Bloomberg is older than Biden.

Age is just a number.  Some of these old guys are obviously on the slide of mental decline (Trump, Biden, etc.) but others like Rupert Murdoch and Bloomberg are as sharp as anyone.  Pelosi and Warren are both also very sharp.  Bern is incoherent but that has nothing to do with mental faculties.  He's always been that way.

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1 minute ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

How about this: How about you actually defend DOTARD on one thing. One fucking thing that he has done that is not either absolutely pathetic, evil, or just plain stupid. Every fucking post you make is either a But __________ (insert name here, probably either female or minority) or a bad joke.

 

 

You're welcome to put me on ignore.  

It's Friday,  Heading to see the Dead.   You have a nice day now.

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17 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Hugo opinion but Bloomberg has no fucking business being president and neither does any billionaire.  Once you’ve spent your life maximizing profits you do not get take over the military or any other position of public trust.

Agreed.  No one accumulates that much money without a) breaking rules, b) not giving a shit about people, or c) both.

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1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

 

I think it's worth checking to see if any of this is credible.  Here's the thread:  

  • He opposes legalizing marijuana and criminal justice reform; used the "gateway drug" argument.
  • He's against investing in tech education in public schools because -get this- "we invest in computers and then they're used for porn and to plagiarize homework" , verbatim. I could spend a whole thread just on this but there's more to cover.
  • He's against minimum wage and regulation around income and aid for poor Americans who have to hold several jobs just to make ends meet
  • Literally said "you can't train people to do tech jobs, they're just not wired that way" when asked about tech education to mitigate job loss because of AI advances
  • He ranted for several minutes about younger generations wanting to retire (?) and how that makes things hard on the economy
  • at some point said "women all of a sudden have opportunities now" so there are 2 bread winners in every family... Sorry Mike, ALL OF A SUDDEN?
  • And finally, he said "we need to go back to how things were done in Clinton days, when he'd get 3 democrats, 3 Republicans and take them golfing, then go lock themselves in a room, close the door, smoke cigars and make all the decisions" (all men implied)
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Bloomberg is what Trump claims to be: self-made billionaire that knows how to govern. Even with Trump and his lies, I don't believe that he's attempted to claim being worth $50B like Bloomberg actually is worth. It's doubtful that even Trump could state that without laughing. 

I see Bloomberg as a safety in case the DNC starts to find themselves without a good option against Trump. I don't see many voters becoming overly excited about Bloomberg but that's not going to be the deciding factor in 2020. However I realize that some here think the Dems have to nominate the most progressive, energetic candidate if they want to win. I disagree. Safe and boring has a higher likelihood of winning.

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1 hour ago, pyrohornIII said:

I think it's worth checking to see if any of this is credible.  Here's the thread:  

  • He opposes legalizing marijuana and criminal justice reform; used the "gateway drug" argument.
  • He's against investing in tech education in public schools because -get this- "we invest in computers and then they're used for porn and to plagiarize homework" , verbatim. I could spend a whole thread just on this but there's more to cover.
  • He's against minimum wage and regulation around income and aid for poor Americans who have to hold several jobs just to make ends meet
  • Literally said "you can't train people to do tech jobs, they're just not wired that way" when asked about tech education to mitigate job loss because of AI advances
  • He ranted for several minutes about younger generations wanting to retire (?) and how that makes things hard on the economy
  • at some point said "women all of a sudden have opportunities now" so there are 2 bread winners in every family... Sorry Mike, ALL OF A SUDDEN?
  • And finally, he said "we need to go back to how things were done in Clinton days, when he'd get 3 democrats, 3 Republicans and take them golfing, then go lock themselves in a room, close the door, smoke cigars and make all the decisions" (all men implied)

Not sure about the credibility but he might be right on that second bullet there. Technology hasn't been a panacea or anywhere close in education.

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Bloomberg is what Trump claims to be: self-made billionaire that knows how to govern. Even with Trump and his lies, I don't believe that he's attempted to claim being worth $50B like Bloomberg actually is worth. It's doubtful that even Trump could state that without laughing. 

I see Bloomberg as a safety in case the DNC starts to find themselves without a good option against Trump. I don't see many voters becoming overly excited about Bloomberg but that's not going to be the deciding factor in 2020. However I realize that some here think the Dems have to nominate the most progressive, energetic candidate if they want to win. I disagree. Safe and boring has a higher likelihood of winning.

Michael Bloomberg's candidacy is going nowhere.

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3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Safe and boring has a higher likelihood of winning.

Like Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, John Kerry, Al Gore, and Bob Dole.  

Trump happened for a reason.  The electorate wants to shake shit up.  Same old same old is the bigger gamble than a change agent.

The people that profit from the status quo want America to elect a do nothing placeholder but the American people aren’t buying like they used to.  That’s why Trump won the GOP primary, he was their change agent. 

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On 11/8/2019 at 10:06 AM, hornhorn said:

Or telling career politicians like Sanders, Warren who have made themselves millionaires to go earn an actual fucking paycheck instead of living on taxpayer tits. 

Circles for some, tiny American flags for everyone else!  

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10 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Out of curiosity, who do you think is the smarter, more successful and respected business man: Trump or Bloomberg?

Considering that Trump would be worth more money had he never worked a day in his life, I'm going to say just about every American is a better businessman.

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22 minutes ago, Bookman said:

Considering that Trump would be worth more money had he never worked a day in his life, I'm going to say just about every American is a better businessman.

I ain't interested in voting in a "billionare businessman." That skillset is only tangentially related to being a good politician. Community organizers understand this "leadership through consensus" bullshit better that corporate tycoons.

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On 11/7/2019 at 7:07 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Hugo opinion but Bloomberg has no fucking business being president and neither does any billionaire.  Once you’ve spent your life maximizing profits you do not get take over the military or any other position of public trust.  You might be a great guy and you might make a decent president but you chose your path in life long ago and it was to serve yourself first.  Sorry billionaires, you already have enough power with your bank account. 

Meh - sometimes billionaries are people who are great leaders.  Weird.

If you have the best candidate and he happens to have a billion in the bank...I'll vote for that guy or gal. 

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