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SpaceX launch scheduled for Nov11. Notable for 2 things - this will be the first time a Falcon booster is reused 4 times, and this will fly with a previously-flown and recovered payload fairing. It says a lot about how much SpaceX has changed the "norm" of space operations that neither of these items is making many headlines.

Payload is another stack of Starlink internet satellites, SpaceX internal cargo, which makes it easier for them to take the reuse risks.

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Got a buddy who does launch photography at the cape ... this is one of his (just released):

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Couple more from my launch photography friend ... cool time lapse shots:  

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3 hours ago, MrPhlegm said:

meanwhile starliner just got launched

 

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pics taken from my driveway

 

 

Sort of. It didn’t reach the correct orbit & now can’t dock with the space station:

https://www.space.com/boeing-starliner-oft-fails-to-reach-correct-orbit.html
 

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Boeing's Starliner Won't Reach Space Station, NASA Chief Says

By Chelsea Gohd 2 hours ago

Updated: CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — Boeing's Starliner astronaut taxi suffered an anomaly today (Dec. 20) during its flight to the International Space Station during the Orbital Flight Test (OFT) mission. 

About 90 minutes after blastoff, NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine said on Twitter that the capsule will not be able to reach the space station because it burned too much fuel during the anomaly.

The Atlas V rocket from United Launch Alliance successfully launched from Space Launch Complex 41 here at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida at 6:36 a.m. EST (1136 GMT) as planned. But, as of about an hour after launch, the mission team had announced an anomaly with the uncrewed capsule's orbit.

"Starliner in stable orbit. The burn needed for a rendezvous with the ISS did not happen. Working the issue," Bridenstine tweeted,following the announcement of the anomaly.

"We have since experienced an off-nominal insertion and the spacecraft is in a stable position," Boeing spokesperson Steve Siceloff said during a launch broadcast. "It's fully powered; mission control here in Houston is assessing all the options."

Blastoff! Boeing's Starliner Crew Capsule Launches to Space Station

"After launching successfully at 6:36 a.m. Eastern Time Friday on the United Launch Alliance Atlas v rocket from Space Launch Complex 41 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida, the Boeing Starliner space vehicle experienced an off-nominal insertion," Boeing spokesperson Kelly Kaplan told reporters here at the press site. 

"The spacecraft is currently in safe, stable configuration," Kaplan added. "Flight controllers have completed a successful initial burn and are assessing next steps. Boeing and NASA are working together to review options for the test and mission opportunities available while the Starliner remains in orbit. A joint news conference will be held at 9 a.m. Eastern on NASA TV."

A view of the Starliner mission control room from the live webcast on NASA TV. (Image credit: NASA TV)

The OFT was designed as a critical milestone to test Starliner for future crewed missions. Following this procedure, Boeing plans to launch a Crewed Flight Test with three astronauts onboard Starliner.

NASA hired both Boeing and SpaceX to develop reusable vehicles capable of bringing humans safely to and from the space station. Ever since the 2011 retirement of the space shuttle, the agency has been relying on Russian Soyuz spacecraft for access to the orbiting laboratory.

Prior to today's launch, both Boeing and SpaceX were targeting crewed test flights in 2020.

Awesome pics though!

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Mark your calendars for January 18th:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/nasa-spacex-rocket-emergency-test-falcon-9-crew-dragon-explosion-a9278196.html

 

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NASA AND SPACEX TO BLOW UP ROCKET IN THE AIR AS PART OF EMERGENCY TEST

Critical test will ensure astronauts can escape in case of a disaster

Andrew Griffin

5 hours ago 

Nasa and SpaceX are set to destroy a rocket as part of an emergency test.

The procedure, known as an "In-Flight Abort Test", will ensure that a new capsule meant for carrying astronauts would allow them to escape in the case of a disastrous launch.

But it will also mean destroying one of SpaceX's Falcon 9 rockets to understand what would happen if one really exploded by accident.

The two organisations are looking to run the test on 18 January, from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

The demonstration of the escape system is one of the final tests required before astronauts travel in the new spacecraft, known as Crew Dragon, which will one day carry people into space.

During the test, the Crew Dragon capsule will be attached to a Falcon 9 rocket, as it will be when it is used as part of real launch.

But shortly after liftoff, SpaceX will trigger a launch escape that should demonstrate that the Crew Dragon is able to safely separate from the rocket and carry those inside of it back down to Earth. After it detaches from the rocket, it will use its parachutes to fall safely to the ground and be collected.

But the rocket is expected to undergo what SpaceX refers to as "rapid unscheduled disassembly", or an explosion. It will be destroyed and SpaceX has said that it will pick the parts out of the Atlantic Ocean when the test is over.

Nasa and SpaceX will then use the data generated as part of the test to evaluate whether the new spacecraft can be certified to carry astronauts to and from the International Space Station.

The launch had initially been planned for earlier but Nasa announced it would be delayed to no earlier than 18 January, giving more time for "spacecraft processing", it said earlier this week.

 

 

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On 1/19/2020 at 11:07 AM, Loco said:

Is it just me or does NASA celebrate any SLS/Boeing milestone while acting like an annoyed child when talking about Space X?    

rep paid to smokebomb for posting the proper video.  really, why does spacex have to have the nasa chick there basically repeating everything the spacex guy says?

i have a feeling this was pre-agreed to a long time ago, like 10 years ago or longer, at which time elon was told "we control manned flight and we decide who flies".

i'm sure elon said "sure, where do i sign"?

at the time the powers that be had no idea he would be this far along in 10 years.   they also could have never foreseen a BFR and Mars in '26.

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On 1/20/2020 at 12:07 AM, Loco said:

Is it just me or does NASA celebrate any SLS/Boeing milestone while acting like an annoyed child when talking about Space X?    

Absolutely.

Boeing royally fucks up Starliner so it doesn't make it to the ISS, can't demonstrate ability to perform 4 of 7 listed mission tasks, and NASA is still hinting that there might be other ways for Boeing to get approval without flying another mission?? My emphasis in Bold below.

 

From this article: https://spacenews.com/joint-nasa-boeing-team-to-investigate-starliner-test-flight-anomaly/

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At the same time that investigation is underway, NASA will separately examine if a second uncrewed test flight will be needed before it allows astronauts to fly on the spacecraft. “NASA’s approach will be to determine if NASA and Boeing received enough data to validate the system’s overall performance, including launch, on-orbit operations, guidance, navigation and control, docking/undocking to the space station, reentry and landing,” the agency said in its statement, a process expected to take several weeks.

That uncrewed test flight, known as the Orbital Flight Test, did not approach or dock with the station. “Although data from the uncrewed test is important for certification, it may not be the only way that Boeing is able to demonstrate its system’s full capabilities,” NASA stated.

The Commercial Crew Transportation Capability contract that NASA awarded to Boeing did require an uncrewed test flight that included a docking. However, NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine suggested at a post-landing briefing Dec. 22 that NASA might not hold Boeing to that requirement.

“There’s also a difference between what is a NASA requirement and what is a contractual requirement for this particular flight test,” Bridenstine said then. “The NASA requirement might not be the same as the contractual requirement for this particular flight test.”

 

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Turns out the Starliner mission had other serious issues. Glad they're now getting forced into a comprehensive review. In a lot of ways this is similar to the 737 MAX issue in pointing to a systematic failure with Boeing's design validation process.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/02/starliner-faced-catastrophic-failure-before-software-bug-found/

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SpaceX just had a T-0 automatic abort yesterday for a Starlink launch. No further details and no new scheduled launch date yet (was an instantaneous launch window, so they had no chance to try anything). When this launch does happen, it will be the first time a booster is reflown 5 times, and also the first time using a reused/recovered fairing.

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