Demarvion Overshown makes plays

[1leggedduck 443]

Maybe there needs to be a loud, public call for the dissolutiion of the ncaa, for this shit, as well as their refusal to enforce their own recruiting rules. It will not likely happen soon, but the best way to get their attention is to show them that the consumers of the product they are supposed to be regulating are tired of their bullshit and are mobilizing to do away with their phoney baloney jobs. Maybe they should watch how well the sideshow conferences do after the major programs leave them in their wake. It's not like we can boycott them. But we can tell them we're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore.

[Horn80 6,118]

4 hours ago, immamac said:

I'm starting to believe this. This is twice that national media has been straight on the WTF side and even fans that hate Texas are admitting Texas is getting jobbed. What an absolute disgrace. 

Me too because watching the game with my son, who got very upset at the time of the call, I told him not to worry that it will be an easy review to overturn and Overshown won’t miss any of the Tech game.

[Had Enough 2,081]

I hope it's that easy, or close to it. Unfortunately, I fear it will only get better, in college football, once the conferences clean out their conference officiating up top, while also leaving the NCAA. 

I don’t get that much into the NCAA, but I view it a bit like the NFL/Goodell relationship. If the schools really wanted a change right now, it’d happen. You’d have to think the NCAA will be no longer but the question is when.

We also need to be honest. There are a lot of nimrods out there outside the NCAA offices with agendas, attitudes and self serving desires so I’ll be skeptical until proven otherwise.

[UncleBuck 6,453]

1 minute ago, 1leggedduck said:

But we can tell them we're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore.

But we do "take it anymore," is the problem. And it doesn't help when most color guys on TV (most of them) find some stupid way to defend it as if it'll help them keep their job. 

[Armybrat 40,832]

3 minutes ago, 1leggedduck said:

Maybe there needs to be a loud, public call for the dissolutiion of the ncaa, for this shit, as well as their refusal to enforce their own recruiting rules. It will not likely happen soon, but the best way to get their attention is to show them that the consumers of the product they are supposed to be regulating are tired of their bullshit and are mobilizing to do away with their phoney baloney jobs. Maybe they should watch how well the sideshow conferences do after the major programs leave them in their wake. It's not like we can boycott them. But we can tell them we're mad as hell, and we're not going to take it anymore.

Rapelor being allowed to skate from their nastyass Briles rape coverup scandal should have been the nail in the NCAA & B12 compliance coffin.

Bunch of goddamned enablers are running both those disgraced & corrupt institutions.

[1leggedduck 443]

6 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Rapelor being allowed to skate from their nastyass Briles rape coverup scandal should have been the nail in the NCAA & B12 compliance coffin.

Bunch of goddamned enablers are running both those disgraced & corrupt institutions.

They can do hard but just things, or do as little as humanly possible, and the pay is the same. No consequences to taking the low, lazy road.

[wood 11,225]

2 hours ago, JBJ said:

Someone explain to me how the DMO hit is different than Play #1 here:

 

That guy led with his head more then Overshown did, and Ref says "There's no launch. No leading with the head. No upawrd thrust. Just because helmets collide it doesn't mean we're always gonna have a targeting foul". That one was more like targeting than Overshown's, but it still wasn't really targeting and was overturned as it should have been..

[Pig Bellmont 8,712]

Just an absolute crime to uphold targeting. We’re incredibly thin at LB so I’m not thrilled about starting the first half on the road without him

[1leggedduck 443]

Well, here's to Overshown tearing somone in half in the 2nd half of the game. 

[MrBig 5,396]

Clearly we need to change things and make our QB have a helmet 3x the size of the one Haynes King wears while making Overshown’s helmet as small as the leather ones they used to wear in the past.

[Horn Dog 9,818]

2 hours ago, JBJ said:

Someone explain to me how the DMO hit is different than Play #1 here:

 

Don't be blind. Let me show you why this was COMPLETELY different from the DMO hit.  

 

 

Do you see the obvious targeting now??

[Davis Lane 5,581]

14 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

I am baffled by the idea that a hit on a QB looking downfield about to pass is a hit on a defenseless player. I mean aren't most QBs looking downfield about to pass on passing plays? And that QB was hard as fuck to tackle, I don't see any evidence Overshown was trying to hurt him just bring him down.

Overshown himself thought it was a clean hit. Was that ignorance on his part? Was he poorly coached? Seems more likely the rules are vague and arbitrary in this regard.

[Codaxx 5,731]

I would love to see them steal from the Rugby world and adopt the no arms rule

No arms: Failing to use arms in the tackle is also known as a shoulder charge. The defender leads with their shoulder and the arms don’t form part of the collision. So, if a player leads with their right shoulder, wrapping the left arm does not suffice. You need to wrap the arm of the shoulder you lead with.

Enforcing tacklers to wrap up would significantly take the head out of the game. It is pretty damn hard to wrap up and keep your down. NCAA needs to govern the process, not the result of the hit. 

[LTtxfan 49,173]

 

[OU Sucks 8,810]

6 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

 

Of course this pussy won't let people reply, because he knows he's a fucking moron.

[Codaxx 5,731]

7 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

 

I see the ball near Harris's belt. I do not understand how that is a passing posture, but apparently they do. That makes it really hard on defenders vs running QBs. 

[ztejas 43,418]

13 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

 

What a fucking pussy. Blocked replies to his tweets. Refs really are like cops in the worst ways. Fortunately they aren't allowed to shoot people. 

[SuckitKevin 920]

What a thin skinned pussy that won’t allow replies.

[Pam Cummings 9,640]

Unless you can read someone's mind, i don't know how you can know whether someone intends to pass or run.

Edited September 22, 2022 by Pam Cummings

[TreatyOak 16,313]

I got to hang w Mr. Overshown last summer and thought he was a really great guy. Forget football, dude could have a very successful modeling career. I missed the game cause I can't stand Galindo. After finally seeing the replay, I can't help but think it's a really close call to make and anyone can see enough there to interpret it however they see fit. It's not as easy a call to make either way, as some people here are suggesting it is.  

 

[PilotsError 2,287]

You're a fucking moron.

[JBJ 3,654]

7 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

After finally seeing the replay, I can't help but think it's a really close call to make and anyone can see enough there to interpret it however they see fit. It's not as easy a call to make either way, as some people here are suggesting it is.  

I agree.  But that is exactly why the booth can't call targeting.  Flag on the field would be more forgivable.

New rule and all so I don't know how they are supposed to call it, but I do understand the QB being considered defenseless with how the play went.

It just that's there's no way for the booth to think there's a clear indicator of targeting.

Edited September 22, 2022 by JBJ

[ztejas 43,418]

12 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

I got to hang w Mr. Overshown last summer and thought he was a really great guy. Forget football, dude could have a very successful modeling career. I missed the game cause I can't stand Galindo. After finally seeing the replay, I can't help but think it's a really close call to make and anyone can see enough there to interpret it however they see fit. It's not as easy a call to make either way, as some people here are suggesting it is.  

 

Have a neg for both openly admitting to not watching the fucking Texas game and thinking that that was a 50/50 call. 

[msucolt45 4,057]

As a TX HSFB official, I’m baffled by the idea that this targeting call wasn’t overruled by Steve Shaw and the NCAA. Neither targeting rule fit the play, no crown, and no intent on a defenseless player. - (9-1-3 or 9-1-4). Yes he hit the QB head to head or FM to FM, but he also wrapped up as he made the tackle simultaneously.

DO was on the QB, inside the tackle box and under 3 sec from the snap, he (QB) wasn’t looking downfield, as he saw #0 coming straight at him as he received the snap!

There was NO flag on the field, so it was a total BS call to stop play and be reviewed by the booth officials. They were definitely trying to read too much into “QB looking downfield” - IMO. Never once was he a defenseless player.

RBs get hit much more aggressively every game, from sub-varsity to NCAA, and there’s no call, just a tackle.

Hook’em!

[TreatyOak 16,313]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

Have a neg for both openly admitting to not watching the fucking Texas game and thinking that that was a 50/50 call. 

[TOR 5,548]

And then it got weird.

[Deej 76,759]

So now players should pull up as soon as they're anywhere near the QB so the QB can just take off running? 

[msucolt45 4,057]

I watched the highlights of calls from Steve Shaw on the calls from week 3 and this play “ahem” didn’t make the video. Just saying! Somebody is trying to coverup someone else’s error - IMO. Not a teaching moment, as we in TXHSFB are the only state to utilize NCAA rules.

Hook’em!

[demos 3,002]

So now players should pull up as soon as they're anywhere near the QB so the QB can just take off running? 

Depends. Is Texas on offense or defense?

[dcar00 14,181]

1 hour ago, 1leggedduck said:

Well, here's to Overshown tearing somone in half in the 2nd half of the game. 

that's double targeting...

[Shaggyhorn 641]

I heard Dusty and Danny call for a march on the NCAA over the Overshown call. It was their first segment this morning.

Danny (former FSU QB) called it, “incidental contact.” Helmets are big.

Seeing that Auburn one from last year, they look eerily similar, but there might be even less head contact in the Auburn one (but more launching as described above).

[ousux 5,597]

Moral of the story? Dive for the QB's knees from now on. That will end well..

[wood 11,225]

4 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

 

Pussy McAulay has replies turned off unless you're mentioned in the tweet. What a POS.

[Codaxx 5,731]

28 minutes ago, ousux said:

Moral of the story? Dive for the QB's knees from now on. That will end well..

That is a penalty also

[Jkwellborn 6,697]

It's also time to quit worrying about targeting on the qb.  If you get the missile shot, take it.  You're going out anyway.

Might as well at this point. If it’s a good qb, destroy him and take your timeout.

[utee94 15,812]

3 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Might as well at this point. If it’s a good qb, destroy him and take your timeout.

AKA, the Alabama Special.

[Rimbo 25,921]

9 hours ago, UncleBuck said:

I am sick and tired of these dumbass internet/twitter refs rushing to tell me how it was the right call. "First off he leads with his helmet." WHAT OTHER BODY PART DO YOU EXPECT TO BE LEADING? Your head will always be out front unless you're standing straight up, and no one stands straight up to make a tackle, or with their head angled back so that it is not out front. These kids can't change the order their body parts are stacked in. These dweebs need to get away from our game, they're fucking it up. 

I mean, I'd agree with you 100%, except for one thing. I DON'T see anyone defending this call/appeal. I'm seeing pretty much universal hatred for it, and from every fan base.

[Horn Dog 9,818]

9 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Might as well at this point. If it’s a good qb, destroy him and take your timeout.

Works for Bama.  Guess it helps when you know there won’t be any timeout.

[Deej 76,759]

2 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

I mean, I'd agree with you 100%, except for one thing. I DON'T see anyone defending this call/appeal. I'm seeing pretty much universal hatred for it, and from every fan base.

Have you checked in over at TexAgs yet?

[bullet 1,596]

On 9/21/2022 at 12:25 PM, Davis Lane said:

I had a thing for Erin Gray.

Buck Rogers was an awful show, but she made it watchable.

[Rimbo 25,921]

5 minutes ago, Deej said:

Have you checked in over at TexAgs yet?

No.

Ain't gonna.

[bullet 1,596]

10 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Sark needs to begin every Monday press conference with a compilation video of the bad calls from the previous game and then list off the names of the crew.

This is now impacting the health and potential livelihood of our players at the next level. Need to make the refs think twice about the obviously preplanned screw jobs.

Realistically, the SEC is more equal.  They really don't protect anyone.  So I wouldn't make that argument.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10,232]

"Stationary opponent"? If he would have been stationary DO would have run into the QB's shoulder instead of his facemask when the QB rotated his body last second to try and escape the hit. (like he did on prior plays all game long).  Terry is just a bitter old LSU grad. I can see why he's retired from the field.

 

[utee94 15,812]

Terry McAulay seems like he sucks.

[Valmy77 13,226]

A stationary opponent? Clearly he has never seen Harris play, that dude was doing houdini acts all night. Just crazy talk.

[dec3169 501]

5 hours ago, 1leggedduck said:

Well, here's to Overshown tearing somone in half in the 2nd half of the game. 

Is that targeting or is it legal?

[lemonandaturd 4,285]

Terry McAulay killed five hookers.  Terry McAulay killed five hookers.  Terry McAulay killed five hookers.  Terry McAulay killed five hookers.  Terry McAulay killed five hookers.  TMKFH

[msucolt45 4,057]

Everyone needs to remember that DO’s call wasn’t “on the field,” but signaled from the booth to review. Field crew had no problem with the live action, but it was a WTF moment by the booth. How that call was upheld is beyond me.

Hook’em!

[Dahobbs 17,534]

4 minutes ago, msucolt45 said:

Everyone needs to remember that DO’s call wasn’t “on the field,” but signaled from the booth to review. Field crew had no problem with the live action, but it was a WTF moment by the booth. How that call was upheld is beyond me.

Hook’em!

Based on what was released about the review, it honestly doesn't look like the NCAA even attempted to identify an indication of targeting. It focused entirely on whether the QB was defenseless. It will not surprise me at all to find out that the Big 12 somehow submitted the appeal in way that made the NCAA think that whether the QB was defenseless was the only issue being appealed. 

[wood 11,225]

2 hours ago, Deej said:

Have you checked in over at TexAgs yet?

I haven't, but I actually have seen aggy defending the hit elsewhere.