11.18.19 Coach Herman press conference (noon)

[EastTexan 662]

2 hours ago, Burntcowboy said:

 

I agree. But the punctuation, man.

[Cajun 11675]

4 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Then the truth is sexist.

[Valmy77 13122]

2 hours ago, bigup2dahorns said:

 

The backup punter looked pretty solid

 

You are not wrong. Is there anybody in the conference who can match our backup punting?

[justinjc7 153]

At work so can't post anything from Twitter but my Dad just texted me this tweet from Bob Ballou

"For the 5th time in 7 Big 12 games Texas does not score a touchdown in the first quarter. On Monday, I relayed the stat (4 in 6 games at the time) and asked Tom Herman why they were getting off to slow starts.

Herman: 'I didn't even realize.  It's not something we talked about'"

What the actual fuck?  You didn't realize that shit?  You are the head coach of The University of Texas football program, you get paid millions and millions of dollars to know basic ass shit like that.  We all realized it, how the hell did our own head coach not realize that?  The gulf between the arrogant know-it-all perception that he tries to give off and the actual reality is incredible really.  The guy is a complete baffoon.  He's no better than Charlie.  I held on to the Herman train longer than most but to hell with this dude now.  He ain't the guy and never will be, he is completely incompetent in every way.  

[jinx 2635]

50 minutes ago, Planet Houston said:

“Coach, why are your players so undisciplined? Is it because you’re such an asshole that they have zero respect for you, and don’t want to do the little things that are necessary to be a well coached team?”

Trey and BK said after the PC that the locker room apparently got word of the "never out coached" comment from Saturday and it didn't go over well.  Transfer portal ----> Activate!

I still can't get over one of the early pressers where Tom was asked why he didn't put Jake Smith and Devin Duvernay on the field at the same time, and he responded with "why would I do that?"  Maybe to win games and keep your job asshole.

How embarrassing will it be to lose to SMU in the Liberty Bowl?  Is that a cause for contract termination?

[Cajun 11675]

Trey and BK also said that players were telling reporters privately that Iowa St players were laughing and saying, "We know your play" as  both sides lined up.

It's been obvious to me that the entire Big 12 has shared the "Tip and Tell" sheet for Herman's formations.

[Jebus 1300]

7 minutes ago, justinjc7 said:

At work so can't post anything from Twitter but my Dad just texted me this tweet from Bob Ballou

"For the 5th time in 7 Big 12 games Texas does not score a touchdown in the first quarter. On Monday, I relayed the stat (4 in 6 games at the time) and asked Tom Herman why they were getting off to slow starts.

Herman: 'I didn't even realize.  It's not something we talked about'"

What the actual fuck?  You didn't realize that shit?  You are the head coach of The University of Texas football program, you get paid millions and millions of dollars to know basic ass shit like that.  We all realized it, how the hell did our own head coach not realize that?  The gulf between the arrogant know-it-all perception that he tries to give off and the actual reality is incredible really.  The guy is a complete baffoon.  He's no better than Charlie.  I held on to the Herman train longer than most but to hell with this dude now.  He ain't the guy and never will be, he is completely incompetent in every way.  

Hey man, people didn't like the MBTF stat diarrhea press conferences, make up your mind

 

[ShowMeALoss 143]

41 minutes ago, Liquor and Poker said:

I particularly like that the only choices were "run two giveup plays and a doomed screen" or "run three straight pass plays."  We apparently have 2-page playbook (including pictures), yet according to Herman our players can't execute.

What's mind bottling is that he doesn't get the fact that it really doesn't matter whether you give the ball back with 2 or 3 minutes left when all they need is a FG to win. You absolutely run your regular offense to score a TD to put the game away at that point in time. If they had failed to get a first down while running the offense that was working, then so be it. Running out an additional minute with 2 straight run plays when everyone knew it was coming would not have made a difference. 

[SKA the boss 729]

I still can't get over one of the early pressers where Tom was asked why he didn't put Jake Smith and Devin Duvernay on the field at the same time, and he responded with "why would I do that?"

That’s when I knew for sure he was too stupid or stubborn to succeed here. Such a wtf moment.

[MissingInAction 24858]

[Dbeasy 14981]

This is what I see.
Anyone who has watched these PCs is seeing a different Hernan today. Milder, less sarcasm, doing what he can to answer questions with sincerity while keeping it vanilla.
I don’t know if CDC has talked with him or if he’s just beat down at this point. But this was a bit different.

Maybe it’s the look of a defeated man who has realized that he never has and never will achieve the success he always felt would happen, given his supreme but ultimately misplaced self confidence. His life is over as he knows it.

[Cajun 11675]

But does he really really know it?

[Dbeasy 14981]

Trey and BK also said that players were telling reporters privately that Iowa St players were laughing and saying, "We know your play" as  both sides lined up.
It's been obvious to me that the entire Big 12 has shared the "Tip and Tell" sheet for Herman's formations.

This if true is infuriating beyond belief. It means we have a staff that does not know what it’s doing.

[Cajun 11675]

If you watch the games you know its true.

I'd say 60-70% of our plays you'll see the defense move to where the play is going right at the snap.

[bschoolprof 6233]

It's obvious that other teams know our tendencies well.  I've posted about this a few times on other threads, and Anwar from OB asked someone on the staff about it.  They basically laughed him off and said Herman's offense doesn't need to worry about tipping plays because we can impose our will.  

 

 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

5 hours ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

just wanted to mention you're a sick fuck if you're planning on tuning in to this.

anybody got a link?

[Eugene11 377]

3 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

The most depressing thing is that literally ONE WEEK AGO, we executed a masterful 13 play, nearly 7 minute drive to end the game.

That drive contained 4 completed passes totaling 55 yards, including a first play pass for 14 that put the defense on its heels.  

It also contained ZERO incomplete passes.

This exact same team just showed that they are capable of executing a drive like this, and the Head Coach still chooses to turtle when he has the game on the line.  Disgraceful.

he out mensa'd himself

 

[Sejjr 3246]

5 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

It's obvious that other teams know our tendencies well.  I've posted about this a few times on other threads, and Anwar from OB asked someone on the staff about it.  They basically laughed him off and said Herman's offense doesn't need to worry about tipping plays because we can impose our will.  

 

 

Except we can't impose shit, and that's the fucking issue. In a perfect world a program like Texas should theoretically be able to line up, say, "we are running the ball straight at you, and you can't stop it," and crush the will of the defense. Texas hasn't been able to do that in well over a decade. 

[Cajun 11675]

7 minutes ago, bschoolprof said:

It's obvious that other teams know our tendencies well.  I've posted about this a few times on other threads, and Anwar from OB asked someone on the staff about it.  They basically laughed him off and said Herman's offense doesn't need to worry about tipping plays because we can impose our will.  

 

 

Texas Rushing

	CAR	YDS	AVG	TD	LONG
Sam Ehlinger	12	27	2.3	0	10
Roschon Johnson	6	18	3.0	0	5
Keaontay Ingram	8	9	1.1	0	7
TEAM	26	54	2.1	0	10

[hornhorn 100]

4 minutes ago, Sejjr said:

Except we can't impose shit, and that's the fucking issue. In a perfect world a program like Texas should theoretically be able to line up, say, "we are running the ball straight at you, and you can't stop it," and crush the will of the defense. Texas hasn't been able to do that in well over a decade. 

Very true! That's what OU did against Baylor and despite having a defense of mostly seniors and a few juniors they couldn't stop it.

[MrBig 5290]

59 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Trey and BK also said that players were telling reporters privately that Iowa St players were laughing and saying, "We know your play" as  both sides lined up.

It's been obvious to me that the entire Big 12 has shared the "Tip and Tell" sheet for Herman's formations.

 

7 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

This if true is infuriating beyond belief. It means we have a staff that does not know what it’s doing.

It’s obvious the other teams know our plays, but Herman will NEVER admit or acknowledge it. In fact, he probably thinks they are doing a great job by almost winning the game. 

People like this are the worst. They can’t handle any criticism because they think they know everything. If you aren’t kissing Tom’s ass, he perceives everything you say to him as a slight. You don’t get better at what you’re doing with this kind of attitude.

[BornOrange1955 77]

I didn't watch. And so much of what gets posted here sounds like made up stuff trying to get a laugh.

But did he really throw Duvernay under the bus? And blame the OL for bad execution on the first down run play?

If that's true, that's piss-poor leadership and a great way to lose the locker room. I wouldn't want my 5-Star athlete to play for a coach like that. 

[Cajun 11675]

Yep, TH attributes blown up plays this way - "Hat's off to that guy.  Just an incredible play...", etc etc.

No my man, that dude knew it was coming and sat on it.

You're right, he'll never acknowledge that.

[Cajun 11675]

3 minutes ago, BornOrange1955 said:

I didn't watch. And so much of what gets posted here sounds like made up stuff trying to get a laugh.

But did he really throw Duvernay under the bus? And blame the OL for bad execution on the first down run play?

If that's true, that's piss-poor leadership and a great way to lose the locker room. I wouldn't want my 5-Star athlete to play for a coach like that. 

I didn't hear the part where he threw Duvernay under the bus, but did hear him completely shred the Biletnikoff Award committee for not having DD even as a candidate.

To be fair.

[LTtxfan 49008]

1 minute ago, Cajun said:

I didn't hear the part where he threw Duvernay under the bus, but did hear him completely shred the Biletnikoff Award committee for not having DD even as a candidate.

To be fair.

Great point.  Herman was rightfully frustrated that DD was not included as semi-finalist for the award... DD was included as a candidate.

[Brothahorn 10085]

2 hours ago, Liquor and Poker said:

I particularly like that the only choices were "run two giveup plays and a doomed screen" or "run three straight pass plays."  We apparently have 2-page playbook (including pictures), yet according to Herman our players can't execute.

[nunna yo bizness 1687]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

So is it sexist that she's performing a simulated blowjob?

[dcar00 14036]

4 hours ago, Auto Driller said:

Perfect encapsulation of our offense on Saturday.

Throwing the ball behind the LOS on an absolute must-make 3rd down and 10. Three offensive linemen blocking nobody. QB under pressure during the throw.

Even if Dev hadn’t “dropped the ball” (according to Herman) 34 and 35 would have combined for easy tackle after a 3 yard gain.

 

you must not understand that the play is designed for Duvernay to break 2 tackles at some point a player needs to make a play.

[bigup2dahorns 3343]

I didn't watch. And so much of what gets posted here sounds like made up stuff trying to get a laugh.
But did he really throw Duvernay under the bus? . 

No. He said the DL made a nice play to break up the pass.

[Wishbone 4739]

Pretty sure we won’t see Fenves and CDC hopping on a plane to beg us some new coordinators after the season.

 

Too bad though………damn.

[GTX Horn 1707]

I typically don't get annoyed by "coach speak" as much as others do, but the whole "go 1-0 against (insert team name)" is beyond annoying and stupid.

[bschoolprof 6233]

55 minutes ago, Sejjr said:

Except we can't impose shit, and that's the fucking issue. In a perfect world a program like Texas should theoretically be able to line up, say, "we are running the ball straight at you, and you can't stop it," and crush the will of the defense. Texas hasn't been able to do that in well over a decade. 

 

54 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Texas Rushing

	CAR	YDS	AVG	TD	LONG
Sam Ehlinger	12	27	2.3	0	10
Roschon Johnson	6	18	3.0	0	5
Keaontay Ingram	8	9	1.1	0	7
TEAM	26	54	2.1	0	10

Yes, I know we can't impose our will.  Our coaches don't unfortunately.  

[bschoolprof 6233]

Remember when last week Herman didn't know who we played after k-state?  But in the ISU post-game, he starts talking about beating the two Texas teams left on our schedule.  I guess he remembered.  

[XYZ 2154]

2 hours ago, Cajun said:

Trey and BK also said that players were telling reporters privately that Iowa St players were laughing and saying, "We know your play" as  both sides lined up.

It's been obvious to me that the entire Big 12 has shared the "Tip and Tell" sheet for Herman's formations.

During the OU game it was painfully evident that the OU defenders knew where the play was going before the snap.

[jinx 2635]

2 hours ago, Cajun said:

Trey and BK also said that players were telling reporters privately that Iowa St players were laughing and saying, "We know your play" as  both sides lined up.

It's been obvious to me that the entire Big 12 has shared the "Tip and Tell" sheet for Herman's formations.

Yeah, I was thinking as I was watching the 1st quarter that it looked just like old school Tecmo Bowl defense, and Iowa State knew every play. 

This morning Bucky said that he rewatched and picked up all of the "tell keys" that signaled plays.  

[6th Street 6357]

37 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

The way ISU was teeing off on our running plays made it look like Campbell could look over and see Herman's NES controller Tecmo Super Bowl style 

[JBJ 3649]

1 hour ago, bschoolprof said:

It's obvious that other teams know our tendencies well.  I've posted about this a few times on other threads, and Anwar from OB asked someone on the staff about it.  They basically laughed him off and said Herman's offense doesn't need to worry about tipping plays because we can impose our will.  

To be fair, ~2/3 isn't a serious tip off, and that's exactly what was said.

[jinx 2635]

40 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

Didn't even see this before I posted my Tecmo Bowl comment.  For the youngsters, in this fantastically awesome game, if you are on defense and correctly pick the offenses play, there is a mob scene as soon as the play starts and all 11 defensive players dogpile the ball carrier.

Just like Iowa State did all day Saturday.

[LTtxfan 49008]

29 minutes ago, jinx said:

Yeah, I was thinking as I was watching the 1st quarter that it looked just like old school Tecmo Bowl defense, and Iowa State knew every play. 

This morning Bucky said that he rewatched and picked up all of the "tell keys" that signaled plays.  

Maybe Bucky can share with Herman the "tell keys" Bucky observed that signaled the Horns plays...

Edited November 18, 2019 by LTtxfan

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

1 hour ago, nunna yo bizness said:

So is it sexist that she's performing a simulated blowjob?

[hookem48 4634]

4 hours ago, torre said:

This answer may provide bulletin board material for Baylor.    Should have included props to the Baylor coaches and players.

Disappointed the offsides penalty was not addressed by media.

everyone is bitching about Herman blaming players and you want the offsides brought up? Roach fucked up, everyone knows.

[hookem48 4634]

4 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Only difference is, for the most part we’ve been signing those top 10 ranked recruiting classes during this decade long slump. So our biggest failures have either been through evaluating players or player development or both 

can we get a top ten ranking for olineman? That would be nice.

[dcar00 14036]

1 hour ago, GTX Horn said:

I typically don't get annoyed by "coach speak" as much as others do, but the whole "go 1-0 against (insert team name)" is beyond annoying and stupid.

almost every coach uses this Parcells-ism. Even the great Matt Rhule uses it.  yes it is annoying but its not just Herman.

Edited November 19, 2019 by dcar00

[EZ$ 2102]

1 hour ago, BornOrange1955 said:

If that's true, that's piss-poor leadership and a great way to lose the locker room. I wouldn't want my 5-Star athlete to play for a coach like that. 

Hi Mr. Brockermeyer. 

[hookem48 4634]

4 hours ago, Skipper said:

I didn't get to watch but as others have mentioned this is the answer that is really concerning.  Either he actually believes this (which is the most concerning) or he thinks our fan base is stupid enough that he can get away with this bullshit answer.   

Because if we throw 3 straight incomplete passes and lose, every single person with a brain would be defending the strategy.   Because we haven't run the ball all fucking game and there is WAY too much time left (and 3 Iowa St. TO's) to gain an advantage by running clock for the sake of running clock.  Burning 1 min of clock and 1 TO did not improve win probability odds in any meaningful way whatsoever compared to 30 secs of clock and no TO's if we throw 3 incomplete passes.   What would have improved our win probability is a couple of first downs through the air burning TO's and requiring the defense to play you straight up and THEN trying to mix in a run.   It was so damn obvious in real time.   And like was posted above, it's exactly how we started the long ass drive that won the game last week.   Just ridiculous. 

 

no matter what we ran if it didn't work this place would be melting down because we didn't run something else, it's what we do and we all know it.

[dcar00 14036]

1 hour ago, bschoolprof said:

Remember when last week Herman didn't know who we played after k-state?  But in the ISU post-game, he starts talking about beating the two Texas teams left on our schedule.  I guess he remembered.  

now I agree that this is an example of dumb shit herman shouldn't say.  all he has to say is I know who we've played and haven't played but I'm only worried about team X right now.

[hookem48 4634]

2 hours ago, hornhorn said:

Very true! That's what OU did against Baylor and despite having a defense of mostly seniors and a few juniors they couldn't stop it.

they have NFL draft picks across their oline every fucking year, we never do. Why is that? Why can't we recruit oline worth a shit?

[Laga4 1270]

We rolled up what,  54 ttl. yards rushing for the game and we are going to take 6 mins off the clock on the last drive running the ball? 

Poor game awareness.  

 

[nunna yo bizness 1687]

22 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

everyone is bitching about Herman blaming players and you want the offsides brought up? Roach fucked up, everyone knows.

The question isn't who fuckex up on the field.  The question is why it happened, and the answer is almost certainly that the coaches failed in their job of ensuring situational awareness of Roach and the others.

The worst thing we could have happen there is what did, and the coaches should have made sure they know that.

Edited November 19, 2019 by nunna yo bizness

[hookem48 4634]

2 minutes ago, nunna yo bizness said:

The question isn't who fuckex up on the field.  The question is why it happened, and the answer is almost certainly that the coaches failed in their job of ensuring situational awareness of Roach and the others.

he's a senior captain, he knew he couldn't jump and he did, players fuck up.