2020 General MLB off-season

[TonyTexas 10772]

 

[Js1 87185]

 

[ChickenSandwich 9959]

That will hurt any grievance by the players suggesting they didn’t play enough games. 

[Valmy77 13626]

On 6/19/2020 at 6:43 PM, Js1 said:

 

Yeah it was probably optimistic they were going to play much of a season this year even if the owners and players weren't feuding.

[Helobious 9820]

I love baseball a lot, but I’m starting to love the MLB less & less.The past few years they’ve managed to both fail at attracting new fans and ostracize old fans. Impressive feat really.

[tx 3 putt 78684]

I'm writing this season off. See everyone in 2021

fuck the yankees, red sox and selig 

[Fudge Nuggets 19455]

Told you they would fuck it up 

[Beau Vine 55867]

On 6/21/2020 at 12:15 AM, tx 3 putt said:

I'm writing this season off. See everyone in 2021

fuck the yankees, red sox and selig 

Manfred?

[Js1 87185]

MLBPA: No

Manfred: yes

 

[Bartles 769]

So after all that, MLB is scheduled to be the first major sport to return, one day ahead of NBA. 

Our national pastime!

[Beau Vine 55867]

 

[Js1 87185]

 

[HtownHorn 15236]

Manfred backed into a corner, finally does what he should have done in May. You lost a month of baseball games for stupidity. When Trevor Bauer is making salient points about the stupidity shown by MLB, the owners, and the players you know they done fucked this up.

 

 

[WBT 20979]

Well if you put it that way, I guess they better file one

[TonyTexas 10772]

I hate this almost as much as Manfred hates baseball. 

 

[Vic Mackey 47960]

29 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

I hate this almost as much as Manfred hates baseball. 

 

I would hate it under normal circumstances but this season will not even feel real. This is the season to test out all the quirky shit they want to test. Test it all and see what sticks. 

[UTexasFight 9818]

But that’s the problem

that rule sucks but it’s going to stick if they try it out 

can’t wait to see some team (not named the Astros) miss the playoffs because they are involved in an extra inning game in game 59 or 60 that they lose because the last place team they are playing has their bottom of their order bunt/punch and Judy specialists due up and the playoff contender has their middle of the order mashers due up.

[HtownHorn 15236]

26 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

I would hate it under normal circumstances but this season will not even feel real. This is the season to test out all the quirky shit they want to test. Test it all and see what sticks. 

Yep. Universal DH. Runner on 2nd to start extra innings. Robot strike zone. Replay feeds only available after the pitch. Players mic'd up.

[TonyTexas 10772]

This rule is trying to fix something that doesn’t need to be fixed. 80% of extra inning games end by the 12th inning

Edited June 23, 2020 by TonyTexas

[WBT 20979]

I don't understand who wants this.  A great thing about baseball is that weird shit happens because there are so many games.  A pitcher hits a game winning HR.  A game goes 18 innings.  Sure it's rare but if you watch a lot of baseball it could happen.

[Bartles 769]

Those long games can cripple a team for days, especially the pitching staff. I'm not wild about the runner on 2nd, I would actually prefer letting it be a tie after the 10th inning.

[Beau Vine 55867]

2 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

I hate this almost as much as Manfred hates baseball. 

 

[Helobious 9820]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

This rule is trying to fix something that doesn’t need to be fixed. 80% of extra inning games end by the 12th inning

20% is not an insignificant number, at all. Much higher than I imagined it’d be actually.

[TonyTexas 10772]

6 minutes ago, Helobious said:

20% is not an insignificant number, at all. Much higher than I imagined it’d be actually.

Per the chart I posted above, there are an average of 37 games per year that go over 12 innings. That’s 1.5% of games played in a season. Is that insignificant enough for you?

[UTexasFight 9818]

45 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Per the chart I posted above, there are an average of 37 games per year that go over 12 innings. That’s 1.5% of games played in a season. Is that insignificant enough for you?

Beat me to it.

8.2% of all baseball games in the 6 seasons between 2012 and 2017 went in to extras (frankly, I was a little surprised it was this high)

But only 1.5% of all games in that timeframe went over 12 innings. That comes to 2.4 games per team per season.

As a fan, I love those 2 or 3 games a year. You get 160 “normal” games in the long slog of a season. Give me some 2 nights a year where I can get excited about a game that doesn’t seem to want to end.

Even better if they are back to back nights...I was 7 or 8 when this happened and I’ll remember it until the day I day:

https://www.astrosdaily.com/history/19890603/

 

 

[WBT 20979]

I was 8 and was at the 22 inning game.  My dad's work had a group outing with families invited where we got to ride the company bus to the game.  I was not happy when the group decided to leave after 11 innings.  Some bullshit about babysitters or something.  I sat up front and listened to the game along with the bus driver on the radio for the hour ride back to where everyone parked to catch the bus.  Then we listened for another 20 minutes on the ride home.  Then I turned on the radio in my room but fell asleep before it was over.  I had to find out the next day about Hamilton coming in to pitch and how Caminitti broke his bat over his knee after striking out before Raffy eventually came through with the game winner.

 

[Guadaloopy 11130]

Why not a compromise and have normal extras for innings 10 and 11 and then start with a base runner at 2nd starting in the 12th?

If you can’t close a game out after 11 innings, you lose your right to gripe about the outcome.

 

[WBT 20979]

I also was at the rare Dome doubleheader the next year when the last scheduled game of the year at the Phillies got rained out and was moved here.  I got to stay for all 18 that time.

[ss13 1832]

Aubrey Huff, holy fuck. Someone steal his phone. 

[Js1 87185]

5 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

I hate this almost as much as Manfred hates baseball. 

 

MLB is softball now? 

Maybe if we shorten the base paths, the game might be shorter too.  

[mdmost 44049]

 

[dbecks 442]

Bring on universal DH!

/ducks

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

6 hours ago, Bartles said:

Those long games can cripple a team for days, especially the pitching staff. I'm not wild about the runner on 2nd, I would actually prefer letting it be a tie after the 10th inning.

This is where I’m at. I feel like after 12 you could just call it a tie and move on. 

[htown85 159]

It is funny how angry everyone got at MLB yet they are going to start before the NBA, whose plan everyone is cool with.  I guess that is why you don’t negotiate in public.

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

5 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

Even better if they are back to back nights...I was 7 or 8 when this happened and I’ll remember it until the day I day:

https://www.astrosdaily.com/history/19890603/

 

 

My dad and I went to the second game. Louie Meadows hit a grand slam. 

[elfenix 34752]

We'll definitely maybe have baseball this year

[Helobious 9820]

Watching Aubrey Huff regurgitate the same talking points on saberstats that I’ve been saying for years was disturbing on a visceral level. I need to step back and re-evaluate some things.

[UTexasFight 9818]

2 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

This is where I’m at. I feel like after 12 you could just call it a tie and move on. 

You could.

but you’d also be a communist. 

[UTexasFight 9818]

2 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Watching Aubrey Huff regurgitate the same talking points on saberstats that I’ve been saying for years was disturbing on a visceral level. I need to step back and re-evaluate some things.

Come to think of it, Helobious and Aubrey Huff have never been seen in the same place at the same time.

[TeddyBearStallion 73]

Any idea when the revised schedules will be up?  Wanting to get a jump on tickets.  

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

1 hour ago, UTexasFight said:

You could.

but you’d also be a communist. 

162 of these fucking things lol. How many games are even tied after 12 innings. I don’t know, we allow it in the NFL and we don’t seem to make a big deal out of it. Ties aren’t that bad lol. We hardly even think about them until they start to positively/negatively affect your division or wildcard standings.

[Helobious 9820]

Ties are complete slaps in the face to everything about the nature of competition. It’s basically saying this game didn’t remotely matter at all and you just wasted these last 4 hours entirely. Maybe the snowflake lets all get a trophy crowd loves ties, but in life you should go at something until you succeed or fail. 

[MC Fresh Breath 4075]

 

 

Also, Charlie Blackmon tested positive for coronavirus.

[Scraps 13800]

9 hours ago, Helobious said:

Ties are complete slaps in the face to everything about the nature of competition. It’s basically saying this game didn’t remotely matter at all and you just wasted these last 4 hours entirely. Maybe the snowflake lets all get a trophy crowd loves ties, but in life you should go at something until you succeed or fail. 

holy shit something I finally agree with this dude on

Ties are fucking stupid.  

[Iceman 2978]

12 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

Come to think of it, Helobious and Aubrey Huff have never been seen in the same place at the same time.

Wait...that would make Helobious a former Astro.

 

lolz.

[Beau Vine 55867]

18 hours ago, ss13 said:

Aubrey Huff, holy fuck. Someone steal his phone. 

Now what did Schilling do?

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

Nats were 27-33 after 60 games last year

[Beau Vine 55867]

23 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

I hate this almost as much as Manfred hates baseball. 

 

What's going to make this even worse is that every game I've seen where this rule comes into play, the leadoff batter in the 12th sac bunts the runner to 3rd.  Should have just started the inning with runner at 3rd and 1 out.

[ss13 1832]

Quote

For the first two weeks of the season, teams will be allowed a 30 man roster. The following two weeks, teams will have a 28 man roster, and then after that the normal 26 man roster will be in place the rest of the season. MLB is, however, removing the restriction on how many pitchers can be on the active roster.

Teams will be able to designate 60 players who are eligible to play — that will consist of the 40 players on the 40 man roster, together with 20 “taxi squad” players.

I’m cool with all that. 

[Sbbruin 22144]

12 hours ago, TeddyBearStallion said:

Any idea when the revised schedules will be up?  Wanting to get a jump on tickets catching the 'rona.  

Fixed.