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14 hours ago, Bill Brasky said:

IN!!!!

 

Fuck yes!  Their last two "tales of" entries were both great...this one looks even better, with the best 2 CW characters outside of Ahsoka who we actually would love to see more of.

Wouldn't surprise me to see more Ventress content coming in some way too...

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Ol Cad, pre Tubes or whatever.  They did him wrong in BOBF.  He fought prime Jedis but loses to an older fatter slower Mando.

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44 minutes ago, huge said:

Ol Cad, pre Tubes or whatever.  They did him wrong in BOBF.  He fought prime Jedis but loses to an older fatter slower Mando.

Save for Andor, live action SW kinda sucks. I'm sticking to cartoons, especially those headed by Filoni, which this series ticks the right boxes.

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5 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I don’t think Disney knows what they have. Timothy Zahn’s Thrawn series could be their Game of Thrones.

I hope it happens and it’s adapted correctly. 

They already have the actor for Thrawn as well...

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On 4/3/2025 at 12:29 PM, huge said:

Ol Cad, pre Tubes or whatever.  They did him wrong in BOBF.  He fought prime Jedis but loses to an older fatter slower Mando.

He was an old ‘man’ by BOBF, ~30 years after the Clone Wars. 

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On 4/12/2025 at 12:21 AM, atomheartbevo said:

Could we be getting Death Troopers?

'Andor' Creator Tony Gilroy Says 'Star Wars' Horror Is 'in the Works' - Business Insider

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Or maybe not, I don't think I want another Han Solo and Chewie project

 

Finished the audiobook in a day. I have some thoughts. 

 

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- Lucasfilm owns the rights to the book, its canon, and John Williams scored the audiobook. This thing had to be getting fast tracked at one point. I remember hearing rumors of a R rated Star Wars movie for years. I assume Death Troopers was the source of those rumors.

- I hope Gilroy eliminates/replaces Han and Chewie in the film. It’s the most obvious twist and most forced part of the book. Just replace them with a new scoundrel and his monster best friend. 
 

- Space zombies is the big twist.  I find zombies to be a huge crutch in the horror genre. Some cannibalistic stormtroopers that have gone full Lord of the Flies in deep space would maybe work better? 

- That said it could be a great zombie movie especially in Gilroy’s masterful hands. 

 

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On 4/12/2025 at 6:46 PM, billfromlaketravis said:

I don’t think Disney knows what they have. Timothy Zahn’s Thrawn series could be their Game of Thrones.

I hope it happens and it’s adapted correctly. 

 

On 4/13/2025 at 12:00 AM, atomheartbevo said:

They already have the actor for Thrawn as well...

unironically, this is what I think the Ahsoka show is building towards. Thrawn has been out in the unknown regions for more than a decade now, and he's coming back to the galaxy to reclaim a nascent imperial remnant that's been nurtured by Moff Gideon and Pellaeon. 

All the peices line up, and it would fit in similarly to how the Legends story fit after the OT

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Cranked up Thrawn (2017) today. About 3/4 through. I love Vanto’s Watson. Pryce’s story of palace intrigue is interesting, but definitely the slower part of the book.

If Zahn’s novels are adapted in film, they really need to nail Pryce’s casting. She’s a difficult needle to thread. 

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14 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Cranked up Thrawn (2017) today. About 3/4 through. I love Vanto’s Watson. Pryce’s story of palace intrigue is interesting, but definitely the slower part of the book.

If Zahn’s novels are adapted in film, they really need to nail Pryce’s casting. She’s a difficult needle to thread. 

As someone who has read an embarrassing number of star wars books, including all of the new jedi order lol, Zahn wrote the best books in the series in my opinion. 

Damn. Those came out 30 years ago lol 

Edit: you should read the original ones. The thrawn trilogy is awesome.

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I finished Thrawn (2017). Did I miss something? Anakin discovered him? 
 

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From the text, the Chiss fake exiled him so the Empire would find him. They’re looking for an enforcer because their culture forbids preemptive strikes, and they face a serious unnamed threat. The Emperor plays along because he thinks the Chiss ain’t shit and he’s looking for allies. 

 

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On 4/26/2025 at 10:53 AM, mdmost said:

Oldest wanted to go see Revenge of the Sith since it's back in theaters this weekend. Not my favorite but I'm always up for seeing The Wars in the theater. 

At Celebration, I was chatting with some younger fans, and of course, for them, 1-3 are their favorites. I reflexively kind of cringe though, imagining how ep 7-9 is how some became SW fans. 

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1 hour ago, YChang said:

At Celebration, I was chatting with some younger fans, and of course, for them, 1-3 are their favorites. I reflexively kind of cringe though, imagining how ep 7-9 is how some became SW fans. 

I get it. It hit at a time when they were the age most of us were when the OT hit, at least Jedi. But man, the dialogue is just so f'ing bad in all 3 of them. Oldest and I were talking about it after the movie and it really shows what happens when George doesn't have someone doing a 2nd or 3rd pass on his scripts. Lucas didn't have anyone telling him no like he had during the OT. 

I don't feel there are that many that became SW fans quite the same with the ST. That's my oldest's trilogy and she never asks to rewatch them. She does want to rewatch Rogue One soon since we're watching Andor. She has more of an affinity for Rebels than the ST. 

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26 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Machete order the way to go for showing SW to kids the first time? We've watched IV and V, wondering where to go next.

Probably.  We watched them in the order that they came out I believe.  As long as IV and V are first. They must always be first.

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36 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Machete order the way to go for showing SW to kids the first time? We've watched IV and V, wondering where to go next.

I go 4, 5, 2, 3, 6 when I rewatch - and yes, it's the way to go. 

If your kids NEED to watch episode 1 then I don't know, do it after 6 maybe? Or start off with it? 

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I always suggest release order.  Each movie builds in some way on the knowledge of the movies before it.

If you've already seen them all then machete is fine.  But if you've already seen them all then you're probably just going to pick and choose your favorites anyway.

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I wouldn't want Attack of the Clones tainting a first time watch of Star Wars. I'd go release order and then gauge if they really want to go back and watch the prequels. Attack of the Clones is just so terrible. Not lose your will to live after delivering children terrible but pretty terrible all the same. 

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I don't think y'all understand the point of machete order. 

And to your point @mdmost, then go 4, 5, 3, 6. Skip 1 and 2. 

I mean if you hate the prequels then it's a pointless discussion anyway. Just instill in your kids hatred of the same shit that you aren't a fan of. Then yell at them when they strikeout in little-league. 

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Also - no kid after watching 4 and 5 isn't going to like attack of the clones. They're going to love that shit. Y'all are trying to force your old-man gatekeeping opinions onto kids who will more likely than not love 2 and 3. Then show them ROTJ and blow their minds. 

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5 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Okay, Anakin. Calm down. Don't act like we're sand. 

I'm just a big fan of machete order. I get the prequel hate. I have the same hate for the sequels (sans TFA which I like a lot).

I think if you're introducing people to the universe interspersing 5 and 6 with the prequel story is the way to go. It makes 6 so, so good as a ribbon on top of the whole thing. In particular - there is a lot of really good stuff when you go from 3 to 6. You leave Luke's storyline in a dark/confusing place after 5. Then you show how Anakin fell to the dark side. Then you open with Luke dressed all in black being pretty brutal when he assaults Jabba's palace. He's using force choke. He's acting a little arrogant. If I don't know the full story or I'm 10 or 11 or whatever and I've just watched episode 3 then that stuff kind of matters. It gets your mental gears turning. And then you have the whole redemptive arc of the entire series. 

That's not to mention the Palpatine arc that Machete order helps with. I mean it's a thing for a reason. YMMV. 

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5 hours ago, YChang said:

At Celebration, I was chatting with some younger fans, and of course, for them, 1-3 are their favorites. I reflexively kind of cringe though, imagining how ep 7-9 is how some became SW fans. 

Sad, but true. It’s a time and a place for some fans. Much like everybody’s favorite SNL seasons were from 11-14 years of age. 
 

I grew up episodes 4-6 because I was born after Jedi and well before Clones. My father loved the films + it’s all we had. 

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1 hour ago, ztejas said:

I don't think y'all understand the point of machete order. 

This is insulting.  We can understand it and simply not agree with you that it's best.  Only Sith deal in absolutes.

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

Also - no kid after watching 4 and 5 isn't going to like attack of the clones. They're going to love that shit. Y'all are trying to force your old-man gatekeeping opinions onto kids who will more likely than not love 2 and 3. Then show them ROTJ and blow their minds. 

Again, more insults.  And regarding the highlighted, the exact same can be said of Episode 1.  Kids love that movie.  Kids love Ani, they love the pod races, they love the silly droid army, and bless their hearts, many of them even love Jar Jar.  Your sad devotion to the machete order is doing the exact same thing, forcing your own opinions of what is relevant or worthy onto kids who will absolutely love Episode I.  But that's just one problem with introducing new people to Star Wars using the machete order.

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

I'm just a big fan of machete order. I get the prequel hate. I have the same hate for the sequels (sans TFA which I like a lot).

I think if you're introducing people to the universe interspersing 5 and 6 with the prequel story is the way to go. It makes 6 so, so good as a ribbon on top of the whole thing. In particular - there is a lot of really good stuff when you go from 3 to 6. You leave Luke's storyline in a dark/confusing place after 5. Then you show how Anakin fell to the dark side. Then you open with Luke dressed all in black being pretty brutal when he assaults Jabba's palace. He's using force choke. He's acting a little arrogant. If I don't know the full story or I'm 10 or 11 or whatever and I've just watched episode 3 then that stuff kind of matters. It gets your mental gears turning. And then you have the whole redemptive arc of the entire series. 

That's not to mention the Palpatine arc that Machete order helps with. I mean it's a thing for a reason. YMMV. 

I recommend release order because that's the way the story was actually built, and it makes the most sense that way.  Every movie was made with the knowledge of the movies released before it, and that seeps into each film.  Skipping around messes with that natural flow of understanding. 

Beyond that, the differences in style, special effects, and aesthetics, are very different from the original trilogy to the prequels.  Almost two decades of huge industry changes in movie-making are contained within the prequels. I understand that you like machete order but I think it's jarring to intersperse the newer and stylistically very different prequels 2 and 3, in the midst of the original trilogy.  I think that's an okay way to watch for people who've seen them many times, but when introducing to children I think it can be confusing.  You're free to have a difference of opinion but attacking people who don't agree with you as being gatekeepers or olds is a weird take.

My kids watched 4,5,6, then 1,2,3, and then 7,8,9 in theaters.  They're now huge Star Wars fans and love the universe.  They were delighted with the order in which they learned it.

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