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Please tell me Terry will be intimately involved with the Qanon investigation.  Particularly because Nick Swardson provides medical advice to Aaron Rodgers. 

Oh sorry, not Terry...Wide Receiver---Brad Stevens! 

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On 11/17/2021 at 6:54 PM, Bookman said:

So my QAnon friend just sent me an article that says the vaccine causes AIDS.

So the vaccine takes someone who is HIV-, has them skip HIV+ status which usually takes at least a year or two to turn to AIDS and moves them right to the front of the line?   Because that's the only way that we could even know if the vaccine gives people AIDS at this point.  It otherwise hasn't even been in testing long enough for us to know one way or the other. People are idiots.

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As someone who has contemplated going solo as a criminal defense attorney, it never occurred to me that a way to find and retain clients would be to publicly disparage them at every turn.

Shit, the handful of times I've given statements to the media, I spend the better part of the day nervous that I came off as unprofessional or disclosed too much.

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So the vaccine takes someone who is HIV-, has them skip HIV+ status which usually takes at least a year or two to turn to AIDS and moves them right to the front of the line?   Because that's the only way that we could even know if the vaccine gives people AIDS at this point.  It otherwise hasn't even been in testing long enough for us to know one way or the other. People are idiots.

 

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QAnon believing Americans, with possible assistance from the State Department getting illicit access to Italian prisoners in order to prove the election was stolen from Trump was not something that I had planned on this season. 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/americans-chasing-down-trumps-wild-election-conspiracy-snuck-into-a-mafia-prison-in-italy?ref=home

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One of QAnon’s wildest conspiracy theories claimed that the U.S. presidential election had been stolen from Donald Trump with the help of two small-time Italian hackers who had somehow hijacked a satellite in order to change the results being counted on American voting machines.

It is now clear that this bizarro theory was not confined to the darker corners of the QAnon conspiracy network. The power of the U.S. State Department may have been pushed into action trying to prove that this was how President Biden stole the election.

 

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An Italian prison official and a lawyer for the alleged hacking mastermind have told The Daily Beast that two Americans gained illicit access to one of the hackers inside an Italian prison—best known for its mafioso inmates—in the dying days of Trump’s term in office in a desperate bid to chase down this insane conspiracy.

The prospect of the U.S. State Department working on this theory was first raised last June when classified emails were released about the so-called #Italygate conspiracy, and fleshed out in Jonathan Karl’s book Betrayal, which scratches the surface of the controversy.

 

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So convinced that the hackers were able to rig the satellites, Karl says Ezra Cohen, a Pentagon official at the time, asked the U.S. Embassy in Rome to deploy its defense attaché down to the southern port city of Salerno to interrogate hacker Arturo D’Elia and his partner in crime Antonio Rossi, who are serving time for hacking into an Italian military supply company. 

The plot proved untrue, though it still lives on as “fact” in the dark corners of QAanon’s conspiracy network and is now the focus of an internal investigation by the Italian bureau of prisons.

 

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The Daily Beast caught up with D’Elia’s lawyer Nicola Naponiello, who confirmed the Americans’ visit and who said that his client was “terrified” that people he presumed were American secret service agents were there to investigate him. “He did not agree to be interrogated and, in fact, no one should have had access to him without going through me,” Naponiello said. “It is beyond absurd.“

He says he is sure that the Americans were hoping to convince his client that in fact he had somehow inadvertently triggered the voting machine results and that if he would just admit that it might have happened, they’d leave him alone. Instead, D’Elia called his lawyer who quickly filed a complaint with the prison.

The Italians, in their thirties, are convicted of hacking the computer system of Italian military supply company Leonardo, Spa., which had nothing to do with U.S. satellites, American voting machines, or any election.

According to Betrayal, a fake heiress named Michele Roosevelt Edwards, who changed her name to Michele Ballarin and who at one time tried to save the now-defunct Italian airline Alitalia from bankruptcy and negotiate the release of a cargo vessel from Somali pirates, had hatched the idea and got someone to whisper it into Trump’s ear at a party in Mar-a-Lago.

Between negotiating with pirates and dreaming up conspiracies, Ballarin once unsuccessfully petitioned Italian parliamentarians, promising them $100 million to relaunch Alitalia. It didn’t fly. She was equally unsuccessful with the cargo ship, and in fact the Ukrainian owners of the ship asked then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to call her off since her interference only raised the price of the ransom to $35 million, according to multiple accounts of the story.

The Italian bureau of prisons investigation is focused specifically on how the Americans entered the prison without authorization. The first lead points to a No-Vax parliamentarian, Sara Cunial, an Italian version of Marjorie Taylor Greene who was with the populist 5-Star movement at the time and who is alleged to have accompanied the Americans. She was close to then-Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte, who had tried in vain to raise his international profile by buddying up to Trump. Whether the “favor” came directly from him is the subject of at least one prong of the Italian prison investigation, which could take years to complete.

Cunial was later barred from the 5 Star party for saying the COVID vaccination was akin to “Nazi experiments” and calling the harsh lockdowns “imprisonment of the Italians.”

D’Elia gave a prison interview with his hometown newspaper in Eboli, provided to The Daily Beast by his lawyer, in which he described the encounter, saying he was only told that Cunial was visiting the prison and would like to see him. “But a strange thing then happened. While we were there, two subjects with American accents approached me,” he said. “It was clear they wanted to speak to me separately. I was surprised. They introduced the theme of the American elections, they were about to ask me things but I stopped them. I called the prison police. I reported the matter. In short, I tried to project myself. I realized that what was happening under my own eyes was absolutely not normal.”

He denies playing any role. “At first it seemed like a joke. But then it all became incredibly serious,” he said. “I didn’t steal anything. I didn’t pass anything to anyone. I just created malware.”

On the day of the visit—Jan. 19, 2021, from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m.—only Cunial is listed as a visitor to the prison. Parliamentarians can visit Italian prisons at any time without just cause to “check up” on things. Surveillance footage, however, shows that she did not enter the prison alone, according to an investigator in the prison probe who spoke to The Daily Beast on the condition of anonymity. The prison probe lists three Americans, including a lawyer who may have acted as a translator, who were with Cunial on that day and whose intention was to “interrogate” the hacker.

Italian senator Enrico Borghi, with the PD or Democratic Party, has even suggested the Americans could be investigated for espionage. “What happened in the Salerno prison given that the Department of Prisons has strict protocol regarding inspections, was that completely ignored?” he said in a statement to La Repubblica. “How is it possible to have left the competent authorities in the dark? These are elements to be clarified given the importance of the story and above all to ascertain what the reasons are that led our colleague Cunial to act in this way, and by whom she was inspired and what international connections there are.”

According to Karl’s book, the U.S. embassy in Rome reported back that the conspiracy was indeed a hoax and that the defense attaché reported back to the Trump camp. “Neither prisoner had said anything at all about interfering with the election and their case was entirely unrelated to anything remotely involving the 2020 US presidential election,” Karl writes. “It’s unclear whether the defense attaché at the US embassy in Rome was actually dispatched to talk to the men in prison.”

In fact, according to the ongoing investigation, the defense attaché—or someone acting on his behalf–certainly was. Now it remains to be seen just how they got in and who gave them the keys.

 

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3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Any state dept officials involved need to be terminated and/or hung 

It'd be nice if the GOP as a whole came out and spoke out against Qanon in general.  If Qanon had firmly entrenched itself on the left with the same beliefs, but maybe a few personalities swapped, the R's would be foaming at the mouth, and the Dems wouldn't be defending them.

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4 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Any state dept officials involved need to be terminated and/or hung 

The Defense Attaché, as the name suggests, is not only from Defense and not State— the Defense Attaché is always and everywhere active duty military
 

I am quite skeptical about the story. I don’t have a hard time believing that some political hack at the Pentagon might try to make it happen. I have a hard time believing an active duty officer at that rank (probably full colonel or equivalent) would play along.  The whole thing is bizarre to the extreme. 

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

It'd be nice if the GOP as a whole came out and spoke out against Qanon in general.  If Qanon had firmly entrenched itself on the left with the same beliefs, but maybe a few personalities swapped, the R's would be foaming at the mouth, and the Dems wouldn't be defending them.

I mean, it would be nice if the texas football team weren’t a full on fucking embarrassing rotting pustule, but that’s just not the case. Same with the GOP. 

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On 11/20/2021 at 4:25 PM, 956 Worldwide said:

 I have a hard time believing an active duty officer at that rank (probably full colonel or equivalent) would play along.

I have a hard time believing a G3 would buy into this Qcumber bullshit, buuuut... here we are with Flynn.

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I have a hard time believing a G3 would buy into this Qcumber bullshit, buuuut... here we are with Flynn.

Flynn specialized in psychological warfare, I think it's more apt to describe the relationship as him utilizing and profiting off of qanon. He's holding a tiger by the tail

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On 11/20/2021 at 2:26 PM, atomheartbevo said:

It'd be nice if the GOP as a whole came out and spoke out against Qanon in general.  If Qanon had firmly entrenched itself on the left with the same beliefs, but maybe a few personalities swapped, the R's would be foaming at the mouth, and the Dems wouldn't be defending them.

So is there a focal point to come out against?  Website of specific ideas?   Like who aggregates the garbage and says THIS fucked up conspiracy is q, but this other one isn't....   yeah I'm old.  

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QAnon believing Americans, with possible assistance from the State Department getting illicit access to Italian prisoners in order to prove the election was stolen from Trump was not something that I had planned on this season. 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/americans-chasing-down-trumps-wild-election-conspiracy-snuck-into-a-mafia-prison-in-italy?ref=home

 

 

 

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The Daily Beast caught up with D’Elia’s lawyer Nicola Naponiello, who confirmed the Americans’ visit and who said that his client was “terrified” that people he presumed were American secret service agents were there to investigate him. “He did not agree to be interrogated and, in fact, no one should have had access to him without going through me,” Naponiello said. “It is beyond absurd.“

He says he is sure that the Americans were hoping to convince his client that in fact he had somehow inadvertently triggered the voting machine results and that if he would just admit that it might have happened, they’d leave him alone. Instead, D’Elia called his lawyer who quickly filed a complaint with the prison.

The Italians, in their thirties, are convicted of hacking the computer system of Italian military supply company Leonardo, Spa., which had nothing to do with U.S. satellites, American voting machines, or any election.

According to Betrayal, a fake heiress named Michele Roosevelt Edwards, who changed her name to Michele Ballarin and who at one time tried to save the now-defunct Italian airline Alitalia from bankruptcy and negotiate the release of a cargo vessel from Somali pirates, had hatched the idea and got someone to whisper it into Trump’s ear at a party in Mar-a-Lago.

Between negotiating with pirates and dreaming up conspiracies, Ballarin once unsuccessfully petitioned Italian parliamentarians, promising them $100 million to relaunch Alitalia. It didn’t fly. She was equally unsuccessful with the cargo ship, and in fact the Ukrainian owners of the ship asked then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to call her off since her interference only raised the price of the ransom to $35 million, according to multiple accounts of the story.

The Italian bureau of prisons investigation is focused specifically on how the Americans entered the prison without authorization. The first lead points to a No-Vax parliamentarian, Sara Cunial, an Italian version of Marjorie Taylor Greene who was with the populist 5-Star movement at the time and who is alleged to have accompanied the Americans. She was close to then-Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte, who had tried in vain to raise his international profile by buddying up to Trump. Whether the “favor” came directly from him is the subject of at least one prong of the Italian prison investigation, which could take years to complete.

Cunial was later barred from the 5 Star party for saying the COVID vaccination was akin to “Nazi experiments” and calling the harsh lockdowns “imprisonment of the Italians.”

D’Elia gave a prison interview with his hometown newspaper in Eboli, provided to The Daily Beast by his lawyer, in which he described the encounter, saying he was only told that Cunial was visiting the prison and would like to see him. “But a strange thing then happened. While we were there, two subjects with American accents approached me,” he said. “It was clear they wanted to speak to me separately. I was surprised. They introduced the theme of the American elections, they were about to ask me things but I stopped them. I called the prison police. I reported the matter. In short, I tried to project myself. I realized that what was happening under my own eyes was absolutely not normal.”

He denies playing any role. “At first it seemed like a joke. But then it all became incredibly serious,” he said. “I didn’t steal anything. I didn’t pass anything to anyone. I just created malware.”

On the day of the visit—Jan. 19, 2021, from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m.—only Cunial is listed as a visitor to the prison. Parliamentarians can visit Italian prisons at any time without just cause to “check up” on things. Surveillance footage, however, shows that she did not enter the prison alone, according to an investigator in the prison probe who spoke to The Daily Beast on the condition of anonymity. The prison probe lists three Americans, including a lawyer who may have acted as a translator, who were with Cunial on that day and whose intention was to “interrogate” the hacker.

Italian senator Enrico Borghi, with the PD or Democratic Party, has even suggested the Americans could be investigated for espionage. “What happened in the Salerno prison given that the Department of Prisons has strict protocol regarding inspections, was that completely ignored?” he said in a statement to La Repubblica. “How is it possible to have left the competent authorities in the dark? These are elements to be clarified given the importance of the story and above all to ascertain what the reasons are that led our colleague Cunial to act in this way, and by whom she was inspired and what international connections there are.”

According to Karl’s book, the U.S. embassy in Rome reported back that the conspiracy was indeed a hoax and that the defense attaché reported back to the Trump camp. “Neither prisoner had said anything at all about interfering with the election and their case was entirely unrelated to anything remotely involving the 2020 US presidential election,” Karl writes. “It’s unclear whether the defense attaché at the US embassy in Rome was actually dispatched to talk to the men in prison.”

In fact, according to the ongoing investigation, the defense attaché—or someone acting on his behalf–certainly was. Now it remains to be seen just how they got in and who gave them the keys.

 

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On 11/20/2021 at 4:25 PM, 956 Worldwide said:

I have a hard time believing an active duty officer at that rank (probably full colonel or equivalent) would play along.  The whole thing is bizarre to the extreme. 

Um, didn't one just get court martialed for his conduct a few months ago?

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41 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

They do realize that JFK was a Democratic Party member, don't they? How do they fit that together in their....wait never mind.

Trump was too.

And remember, these people hate homosexuals/trans, and yet they have a fetish for The Matrix, which is about the thing that they hate.

Again, I haven't seen many Qanon people that don't have a lot of time on their hands for one reason or another (basement dwellers, self-employed, etc.).

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Feed them to Lions, Bears and wolverines....they are making me think of the most annoying early Christians....yeah their stupid faith is probably going to bring down our empire but we can at least get some blood sport out of it on the way down....Or make them fight to the death over whether or not the JFK Jr tenet of the faith is true or not. (There are many schisms in the faith.) It would create jobs for net and trident coaches. @RDCanecutter's fencing skills would become profitable. The Astrodome would have a new tenant. 

 

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I don't know if there was a 2 shooter on that bridge that day.  But there are certainly 102 morons on there now.  

I'm genuinely curious what the Qanon movement has taken on now as their next code/secret these days.  I don't know why we can't have a Q thread on here like tigerdroppings and texags does.  It could be a safe space for people that cannot take responsibility for their own lives.  I was 90% convinced that my neighbor had a Qanon session with a friend of hers once or twice a week.  But it seems to have ended about the time that all the online 'reveals' throttled down.  I know my cousin still dabbles in it a bit.  She was never that all in because I think she realized it kinda violated some of her Christian principles.   I'm just thankful my mother didn't get drawn down into it.  

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Vote for me, MaybeACoordinator, your Death to All Q Nuts in Gladitorial Combat candidate.

Fat, frightened, goateed men with diabetes shuffling around wearing red MAGA hats, half-naked, clutching their swords and spears in front of a box holding a laughing and pointing Hillary, Hunter Biden and AOC.

Would PPV.
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I don't know if there was a 2 shooter on that bridge that day.  But there are certainly 102 morons on there now.  
I'm genuinely curious what the Qanon movement has taken on now as their next code/secret these days.  I don't know why we can't have a Q thread on here like tigerdroppings and texags does.  It could be a safe space for people that cannot take responsibility for their own lives.  I was 90% convinced that my neighbor had a Qanon session with a friend of hers once or twice a week.  But it seems to have ended about the time that all the online 'reveals' throttled down.  I know my cousin still dabbles in it a bit.  She was never that all in because I think she realized it kinda violated some of her Christian principles.   I'm just thankful my mother didn't get drawn down into it.  

For fun times we like to scatter some old spent shell casings around the Grassy Knoll and watch the tourists when they find them.


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For fun times we like to scatter some old spent shell casings around the Grassy Knoll and watch the tourists when they find them.


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I bet you could hide random numbers around that area as well.  And watch the idiots try and make sense of them, and decode some sort of secret message left by Q himself.

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