The Batshit Insane QAnon Conspiracy Theory

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,391]

1 minute ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I think the genie's out of the bottle on that one @Nice Guy Eddie

 

Yes I think you’re right. John McCain has the balls to stand behind the truth when that one elderly supporter called Obama something something Muslim. McCain easily could have said nothing like most politicians would. Why waste your breath if it doesn’t help you. But McCain praised his opponent as being a good man and fact checked a supporter which did not help his 2008 candidacy but it showed who he was.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

The vitriol with which the right turned on McCain posthumously was especially fierce. It is as if the man held no positive character traits at all to listen to the loyal Trump supporters. They (QAnon believers) are turning on Kevin McCarthy now that he has made the statement about there being no place for conspiracy theories in the GOP. I'm not sure if his exact quoted words used conspiracy theories or QAnon, but those folks are steamed at him.

You have to wonder if Mitt Romney had to eat lunch at the table by himself (before DC began to shut down due to the virus) since the others were following orders, but I'm not going to hold my breath that the party will fracture in the run up to November. I kept thinking that some would crack during impeachment proceedings and Mitch shut that down, so this is all circus to me. Kevin will heel when he's told.

[BrickHorn 18,166]

None of that is surprising when you accept that the GOP is a cult. Trump is its charismatic leader, and Q is the incoherent, absurd mythology designed to reconcile the reality of Trump with who his followers imagine him to be.

[Brisketexan 104,434]

8 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

The vitriol with which the right turned on McCain posthumously was especially fierce. It is as if the man held no positive character traits at all to listen to the loyal Trump supporters. They (QAnon believers) are turning on Kevin McCarthy now that he has made the statement about there being no place for conspiracy theories in the GOP. I'm not sure if his exact quoted words used conspiracy theories or QAnon, but those folks are steamed at him.

You have to wonder if Mitt Romney had to eat lunch at the table by himself (before DC began to shut down due to the virus) since the others were following orders, but I'm not going to hold my breath that the party will fracture in the run up to November. I kept thinking that some would crack during impeachment proceedings and Mitch shut that down, so this is all circus to me. Kevin will heel when he's told.

Their is no GOP without the insanity/racism/nutbar wing.  Those aren't "wings" anymore -- they're the whole fucking bird.  Get with the program, or GTFO of the party.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

No disagreement here; I mean if it wasn't the whole United States of America going up in flames, it would be fascinating. But being in the middle of it is horrifying, depressing, sad, and a a big reason why the ledge looks so inviting.

I mean the part of me that isn't say F U Kevin, is pondering what is going on in his brain right now? Is he scared? Is he confident? So much of that depends upon if strategy is deliberate vs. seat of the pants decision making and just how much he knows about what rigging/info is going to take place/be dropped. I haven't forgotten that Barr said he has something he's going to reveal before November. Now, Rudy says that and I'm "Pfft, Rudy is all hat no cattle," but Bill. Bill can do things. Bill doesn't seem to care about whether those things are legal. Bill can make things happen. Make things appear or disappear. Bill Barr is a damn magician.

[Aqua Buddha 14,484]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Their is no GOP without the insanity/racism/nutbar wing.  Those aren't "wings" anymore -- they're the whole fucking bird.  Get with the program, or GTFO of the party.

This is correct.  The modern Republican part is a three legged stool of:

1.  White grievance/victomhood

2.  Conspiracy theories

3.  False equivalency.

[Ted Lange 15,988]

 

[Bevo14 8,250]

What the fuck does that even mean? Are they trying to say "one for all, all for one" but have to give it the dumbfuck twist so that it suits them better?

[Matuka 1,305]

1 hour ago, Bevo14 said:

What the fuck does that even mean? Are they trying to say "one for all, all for one" but have to give it the dumbfuck twist so that it suits them better?

"From the outside looking in, you can't understand it. From the inside looking out, you can't explain it."

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

1 hour ago, Bevo14 said:

What the fuck does that even mean? Are they trying to say "one for all, all for one" but have to give it the dumbfuck twist so that it suits them better?

I think the bolded says it all. I mean give the person that started the whole thing some credit for having the good sense not to go with the Musketeer phrase because if you give these people shiny swords, the ER is going to be full of COVID patients and missing limbs.

[High Plains Drifter 10,969]

6 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

This country has lost its god damned mind. 

 

and we've spread it to the world

 

 

 

looking at that map, I'm glad to see my home is still in the grey

 

[Anastasis 23,358]

12 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

You  defend your choice in politics in a manner that is similar to this choice in religion:  you argue why a particular Christian denomination gives you pause because of its stance on female pastors and whether the Host is real or symbolic - and you refuse to support that denomination even when the other choice is a child sacrificing Baal cult.. 

You seem stuck on this idea that we have to force a dichotomy.  We don't.  We need to move to multiparty democracy. It will require real structural change. The further you engage the two party system the harder that change becomes. 

Edited August 23, 2020 by Anastasis

[Anastasis 23,358]

7 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Yes I think you’re right. John McCain has the balls to stand behind the truth when that one elderly supporter called Obama something something Muslim. McCain easily could have said nothing like most politicians would. Why waste your breath if it doesn’t help you. But McCain praised his opponent as being a good man and fact checked a supporter which did not help his 2008 candidacy but it showed who he was.

I remember that one.  The old did not call Obama a Muslim, she called him an Arab. 

[Biff Tannen 45,471]

3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

You seem stuck on this idea that we have to force a dichotomy.  We don't.  We need to move to multiparty democracy. It will require real structural change. The further you engage the two party system the harder that change becomes. 

Warren has been calling for structural change. 

[elfenix 34,164]

4 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

and we've spread it to the world

 

 

 

looking at that map, I'm glad to see my home is still in the grey

 

didn't kpop stans hijack qanon hashtags? 

 

[Okie State 3,767]

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/20/904237192/journalist-enters-the-world-of-qanon-it-s-almost-like-a-bad-spy-novel?ft=nprml&f=

Good listen on NPR from the Atlantic journo who has done the most digging.

How come no one can figure out who this person is? Seems like if the FBI really wanted to they could track them down.

Thanks for the link. My older brother has been big on conspiracy theories for a while, but now I'm convinced he's a QAnon believer. He posts all the key talking points mentioned in that interview. So damn sad to see someone be so completely consumed by this bullshit.

[Jive Turkey 12,562]

 

[Jive Turkey 12,562]

Chris Wallace went after Meadows on Q. Meadows lies his ass off. 

 

[Queen Bitch 1,692]

Meadows used a whole lot of words to avoid answering the question.

I hope it’s as simple as “we need their votes” but I have to assume the worst with these people.

[Chuckie Finster 22,582]

One interesting thing I’ve noticed on social media: I have seen an uptick in Q-related posts, but it’s not from any of the conspiracy theory types. It’s the super “religious” Republicans that weren’t originally in on Trump but voted for him anyway. I really think there’s a psychological study to be done on these people: I think subconsciously they know he’s a piece of shit, so they have to invent this story about how he’s out there saving kids from pedophiles to justify (in their minds) voting for him.

[pyrohornIII 4,801]

Here's a link to a good background article on Q

By the title you can tell they have the same regard for the movement as we do.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-is-qanon-a-deep-look-inside-the-nutso-conspiracy-theory-infecting-our-politics

Inside the Completely Nutso Universe of QAnon

[pyrohornIII 4,801]

6 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

One interesting thing I’ve noticed on social media: I have seen an uptick in Q-related posts, but it’s not from any of the conspiracy theory types. It’s the super “religious” Republicans that weren’t originally in on Trump but voted for him anyway. I really think there’s a psychological study to be done on these people: I think subconsciously they know he’s a piece of shit, so they have to invent this story about how he’s out there saving kids from pedophiles to justify (in their minds) voting for him.

Bingo.  Abortions weren't enough.    And communism is an old trope no one buys anymore.

Edited August 23, 2020 by pyrohornIII

[RomaVicta 29,746]

On 8/21/2020 at 6:37 AM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Hmmm. That has a familiar ring to it. Create hate engine. Hate illusory libs. Lie about real people like Hillary Clinton. Zealous haters embrace the lies. Zealous haters embrace the King Liar in a creamy climax of exultant certainty. 

And. They. Never. Let. Go.

Rinse Soak in sewage, repeat.

[Okie State 3,767]

Bingo.  Abortions weren't enough.    And communism is an old trope no one buys anymore.

Abortions and socialism are pretty consistently the talking points brought up anytime I question any of my family or friends on how they could still support Trump. The pedophiles angle is definitely gaining momentum though.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,391]

2 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

One interesting thing I’ve noticed on social media: I have seen an uptick in Q-related posts, but it’s not from any of the conspiracy theory types. It’s the super “religious” Republicans that weren’t originally in on Trump but voted for him anyway. I really think there’s a psychological study to be done on these people: I think subconsciously they know he’s a piece of shit, so they have to invent this story about how he’s out there saving kids from pedophiles to justify (in their minds) voting for him.

100%.  99% of people could hear the extreme Q ideas like” JFK Jr. isn’t really dead” theories, and they would laugh them off as crackpot ideas.  But less crazy Q theories are starting to take hold. Or perhaps it’s Q and slightly more reasonable people just coming together.

The very worst part is that expert advice is tossed aside because one “expert” disagrees and even the source of expertise might be questionable. Like when trump says the cdc or fda is wrong, or that he read that others disagree. 

[pantone159 712]

I really wonder how much of the Q stuff is being stirred up by Putin and company. I do not doubt that people believe that garbage, but I bet much of that is 'useful idiots' being manipulated. It is 100% sure that 'idiots' applies, so it is not so far to add the 'useful' prefix and what goes with that.

 

[Mole 4,318]

2 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

One interesting thing I’ve noticed on social media: I have seen an uptick in Q-related posts, but it’s not from any of the conspiracy theory types. It’s the super “religious” Republicans that weren’t originally in on Trump but voted for him anyway. I really think there’s a psychological study to be done on these people: I think subconsciously they know he’s a piece of shit, so they have to invent this story about how he’s out there saving kids from pedophiles to justify (in their minds) voting for him.

I’m starting to see more of the religious republicans positioning themselves as persecuted (even more so than the typical persecution complex). It all feeds into the insane feedback loop.

I’ve seen people that I was close with, that were generally normal and reasonable people disengage from reality and go down these crazy paths over the past few months. The next few months will be wild and will likely rip us apart.

[RomaVicta 29,746]

On 8/21/2020 at 7:48 AM, bolverk said:

There is hardly universal support inside the party for QAnon. Many of its leaders in Congress and powerful donors are privately horrified at the spread of the movement’s themes.

There's your problem. Anybody keeping their horror private is complicit. They keep it private for the worst reasons: personal gain.

Fuck them all.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

13 minutes ago, Mole said:

I’m starting to see more of the religious republicans positioning themselves as persecuted (even more so than the typical persecution complex). It all feeds into the insane feedback loop.

I’ve seen people that I was close with, that were generally normal and reasonable people disengage from reality and go down these crazy paths over the past few months. The next few months will be wild and will likely rip us apart.

It is unsettling to say the least (the folks that seem pretty regular going round the twist). We learned about the "Burned-over district" in one of my history classes (link to a Wiki article below if you're unfamiliar) and I would say the fervor is similar (except there were a number of groups also in that area that were socially radical for their day) but like @Brisketexan has said about cults, they really go further until I get this creepy feeling I'm in eighth grade again and reading The Lottery or learning about the Salem Witch Trials or something. This hive mind and sense they have of anticipation, of looking forward to something certain adds something and is one of the topics that is discussed in the explanation for the popularity of conspiracy theories, but the manipulation in the months to the election has me worried beyond belief. I don't care if Mark Meadows says, 'nothing to see here.' They are a ticking time bomb, many have taken that bizarre oath as a test of their loyalty and while most of us shake our heads and think they are kooks, someone else thinks they are useful matches for a conflagration set to ignite from coast to coast.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burned-over_district

Edited August 23, 2020 by Mrs Whiggins
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[elfenix 34,164]

q has painted over the be someone graffiti in houston

https://abc13.com/saveourchildren-be-someone-sign-houston-coronavirus/6384548/

[wildcat09 29,184]

21 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

Bingo.  Abortions weren't enough.    And communism is an old trope no one buys anymore.

Yeah, the moral panic about child trafficking has been brewing in churches since before Trump announced he was running, but really took off the last couple of years when evangelical support swung to Trump. They need something to fall back on to make themselves feel righteous when they start questioning whether they're really the good guys, and most of them deep down don't really think abortion is as bad as they say it is. They needed more, so they convinced themselves that the people they hate (which is basically everyone else) were cannibal child rapists. 

[Foosters 17,691]

On 8/22/2020 at 6:27 PM, Bevo14 said:

What the fuck does that even mean? Are they trying to say "one for all, all for one" but have to give it the dumbfuck twist so that it suits them better?

 

[TheStoicPaisano 9,904]

11 minutes ago, Foosters said:

 

Me winning isn’t. You do.

[MC Fresh Breath 4,074]

Drove to the coast this weekend.  Going through small town Oregon saw the exact 'save our children from pedophiles' signs and folks gathering.  And they were getting supportive honks from their fellow small town nutjobs.

Wife had no idea what it was about.  I got pissed that I was purposefully taking a break from all the bullshit only to have it thrown in my face.  Geezus.  

[Aqua Buddha 14,484]

I like how they're obsessed with child trafficking but are totally oblivious to Epstein.

[Okie State 3,767]

Drove to the coast this weekend.  Going through small town Oregon saw the exact 'save our children from pedophiles' signs and folks gathering.  And they were getting supportive honks from their fellow small town nutjobs.
Wife had no idea what it was about.  I got pissed that I was purposefully taking a break from all the bullshit only to have it thrown in my face.  Geezus.  

It's a pretty solid strategy really because who doesn't want to protect children from sex trafficking? You'd have to be a real asshole not to support that movement!

[MC Fresh Breath 4,074]

Yeah, until you tell 'em its Trump fighting the Satanists and you could buy a child online at Wayfair disguised as an overpriced pillow case.

 

[Okie State 3,767]

The whole thing is crazy, but the idea that Trump is going to be the savior really puts it over the top.

[Foosters 17,691]

1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

I like how they're obsessed with child trafficking but are totally oblivious to Epstein.

They're not oblivious to Epstein. They're were numerous Epstein signs at rallies. The problem is, they only acknowledge the Dems and Hollywood connections to him. 

[SameSame 1,691]

On 8/23/2020 at 10:44 AM, Okie State said:

On 8/20/2020 at 4:47 PM, Buzzrock said:

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/20/904237192/journalist-enters-the-world-of-qanon-it-s-almost-like-a-bad-spy-novel?ft=nprml&f=

Good listen on NPR from the Atlantic journo who has done the most digging.

How come no one can figure out who this person is? Seems like if the FBI really wanted to they could track them down.

Read more  

Thanks for the link. My older brother has been big on conspiracy theories for a while, but now I'm convinced he's a QAnon believer. He posts all the key talking points mentioned in that interview. So damn sad to see someone be so completely consumed by this bullshit.

My sister is as well, which I thought was just unbelievable.  I don’t follow social media posts closely so I hadn’t seen everything she’s throwing out there.

Then I sat down and talked to her.

 And I have to say, related to me or not, That bitch is fucking nuts.

[Aqua Buddha 14,484]

13 minutes ago, Foosters said:

They're not oblivious to Epstein. They're were numerous Epstein signs at rallies. The problem is, they only acknowledge the Dems and Hollywood connections to him. 

Yeah, that.  Ask them about how Epstein worked for Barr's dad and they give you a blank look.

[pyrohornIII 4,801]

 

3 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

Drove to the coast this weekend.  Going through small town Oregon saw the exact 'save our children from pedophiles' signs and folks gathering.  And they were getting supportive honks from their fellow small town nutjobs.

Wife had no idea what it was about.  I got pissed that I was purposefully taking a break from all the bullshit only to have it thrown in my face.  Geezus.  

The beauty of it is that it's never anything local.  It's something going on in some Blue country, like New York, or California.   So they can make up whatever shit they need to.

[Pescado_Rojo 19,327]

One of my neighbors posted some Q shit on FB the other day. This is a guy I met on the first day of kindergarten for our kids 9 years ago. His son is one of my son's best friends and they live down our block. We used to do all kinds of shit together. Neighborhood bbqs, big group dinners out, I've had them up to the ranch for a boys weekend to fish and shoot guns and shit...stuff like that. In that time he's gone from your basic right leaning suburban dad to posting rants against libtards, to all lives matter, to back the blue, and now he's posting Q shit on facebook. I responded and said "dude, come on. You're smarter than this". He told me he's "done the research" and I need to come over and have a beer so he can tell me all about it. I told him I'd rather him try to sell me Plexus or some other pyramid scheme. Then he started sending me all kind of shit through FB messenger and I just stopped responding. Honestly, this has been like watching my high school best friend go from pot and beer to pills, to coke, to heroin, to dead from an overdose by 26. It's just...sad. 

[MC Fresh Breath 4,074]

1 hour ago, pyrohornIII said:

 

The beauty of it is that it's never anything local.  It's something going on in some Blue country, like New York, or California.   So they can make up whatever shit they need to.

In my time in Oregon that tends to be California and Portland, in that order.

Jokes aside, didn't pizza gate get someone shot?  That's going to happen again, if it hasn't already.  Edit: wikipedia says shots, but I guess nobody actually hit.

 

Edited August 24, 2020 by MC Fresh Breath

[Okie State 3,767]

One of my neighbors posted some Q shit on FB the other day. This is a guy I met on the first day of kindergarten for our kids 9 years ago. His son is one of my son's best friends and they live down our block. We used to do all kinds of shit together. Neighborhood bbqs, big group dinners out, I've had them up to the ranch for a boys weekend to fish and shoot guns and shit...stuff like that. In that time he's gone from your basic right leaning suburban dad to posting rants against libtards, to all lives matter, to back the blue, and now he's posting Q shit on facebook. I responded and said "dude, come on. You're smarter than this". He told me he's "done the research" and I need to come over and have a beer so he can tell me all about it. I told him I'd rather him try to sell me Plexus or some other pyramid scheme. Then he started sending me all kind of shit through FB messenger and I just stopped responding. Honestly, this has been like watching my high school best friend go from pot and beer to pills, to coke, to heroin, to dead from an overdose by 26. It's just...sad. 

Happened to my older brother when he got on Facebook. He was a very late adopter of smartphones (still very anti-technology) so he was essentially disconnected from all of the bullshit out there on the internet. Once he started down the rabbit hole that was it. I'm able to have short phone conversations with him and BS about normal things, but anything more than that inevitably goes off the rails. It's sad shit and I'm not sure there's any going back.

 

[Matuka 1,305]

It appears JFK Jr. won't be Trump's VP running mate this time around.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

3 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

That's going to happen again, if it hasn't already. 

 

That's been our concern. Welcome to the party.

People cooped up, angsty, time on their hands to get hooked. Add weaponry and people to blame and it gets real ugly real fast.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

 

[Jiggy-Z 3,428]

On 8/24/2020 at 11:45 AM, Foosters said:

They're not oblivious to Epstein. They're were numerous Epstein signs at rallies. The problem is, they only acknowledge the Dems and Hollywood connections to him. 

They forgot also about Roy Cohn being a known pedophile (he preferred the young men).

[TexasEd 8,062]

Deep Thoughts:

In a world where everything Trump accuses others of is really a confession

• and QAnnon says that there is a group of left-wing Child Sex Traffickers attacking Trump
• and Trump repeats the message and accuses Clinton of being in the group
• and he defends Ghislaine Maxwell.

Then reality is that Trump is the head of a child sex trafficker ring out to get the Democrats (or he's its agent sent to distract everyone from what they are doing)  

I think I made a strong case.