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satyanash
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Second-rate list from a second-rate burger chain.

Katfid54
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I looked up a picture of his family, thinking that they would be obese, since they're from Alabama. But it turns out the Pickens are slim.

SydneyCarton
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Yeah. The QB who can't buy himself a beer is to blame for all of the  recruiting woes of USC. What a fucking cunt of a comment. 

Burt Macklin

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7 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

 


I’ve never seen him written about as anything other than Saban’s ace recruiter/bagman. Is there someone in that Cleveland FO/coaching staff that knows different?

 

 

Would make more sense if he was wanted by Gregg Williams with the Jets. At least then Tosh could continue his role of overseeing illegal payments.

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2 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Surprise, surprise, a high rated kid getting Tennessee picks this late in the game.

https://247sports.com/Player/Henry-Tootoo-46039470/

It was a battle between Bama and Tennessee, which tells you all you need to know.

With Tosh getting a job with the Browns, this makes sense.

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What is the minimum time for non-reverential use of a dead person's image? I feel like Surly may have a different time frame than the outside world. I was thinking maybe:

Person was highly important to a disadvantaged minority  -- Outside world waits minimum 120 years --  Surly gives him 2 weeks

Person was a well loved public figure but not at the core of any PC causes --  Outside world waits 10 years -- Surly has a few comments on related threads questioning the idea of mocking him but are generally cool with whatever after a couple of weeks.

Person was no one special  --  Outside world waits 18 months --  Surly has an edited version of a Thujone pic featuring the guy's face hours later on the day he dies

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3 hours ago, Magus Ossis said:

What is the minimum time for non-reverential use of a dead person's image? I feel like Surly may have a different time frame than the outside world. I was thinking maybe:

Person was highly important to a disadvantaged minority  -- Outside world waits minimum 120 years --  Surly gives him 2 weeks

Person was a well loved public figure but not at the core of any PC causes --  Outside world waits 10 years -- Surly has a few comments on related threads questioning the idea of mocking him but are generally cool with whatever after a couple of weeks.

Person was no one special  --  Outside world waits 18 months --  Surly has an edited version of a Thujone pic featuring the guy's face hours later on the day he dies

Fuck ‘em. 

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Today..... Big 12 Recruiting article on ESPN+

Breaking down the Big 12 Recruiting Classes

The Big 12 has two teams ranked in the top 10 of the recruiting Class Rankings and four in the top 40. The conference is smaller than other Power 5 groups, but the Big 12 has the fewest ESPN 300 prospects committed or signed to its member schools with 30.

Comparatively, the SEC has 116 ESPN 300 signees and commits, the Big Ten has 53, the Pac-12 has 38 and the ACC has 34.

Leading the way in the conference are Oklahoma and Texas with a combined 23 of the conference's 30 ESPN 300 commitments, which is pretty remarkable. It's no surprise those two schools are at the top of the list, but it doesn't mean there aren't any other good classes in the rest of the conference.

(Not an ESPN+ Subscriber..... so limited to further access to this article)

http://www.espn.com/college-football/insider/story/_/id/25823691/breaking-big-12-recruiting-classes

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2 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

The Big 12 has two teams ranked in the top 10 of the recruiting Class Rankings and four in the top 40. The conference is smaller than other Power 5 groups, but the Big 12 has the fewest ESPN 300 prospects committed or signed to its member schools with 30 (3 per team on average).

Comparatively, the SEC has 116 ESPN 300 signees and commits (8 per team), the Big Ten has 53 (almost 4 per team), the Pac-12 has 38 (3 per team) and the ACC has 34 (less than 2.5 per team).

 

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ESPN should be wondering if their SEC investment is that great. The SEC more than doubles the talent of the other conferences, but doesn't do much better than .500 against them at the end of the season.

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Doc Sam Beckett

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This should be an interesting position group battle to watch over the next few years....

Oklahoma 

#1 WR Jadon Haselwood 

#3 WR Theo Weese 

#10 WR Trejan Bridges 

#4 TE Austin Stogner 

 

Clemson 

#5 WR Frank Ladson

#8 WR Joe Ngata 

#62 WR Brannon Spector

#9 TE Jaelen Lay

 

SC

#1 ATH Bru Mccoy 

#7 WR Kyle Ford 

#24 WR Puca Nacua 

#37 WR Drake London

#8 TE Jude Wolfe

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30 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

This should be an interesting position group battle to watch over the next few years....

Oklahoma 

#1 WR Jadon Haselwood 

#3 WR Theo Weese 

#10 WR Trejan Bridges 

#4 TE Austin Stogner 

 

Clemson 

#5 WR Frank Ladson

#8 WR Joe Ngata 

#62 WR Brannon Spector

#9 TE Jaelen Lay

 

SC

#1 ATH Bru Mccoy 

#7 WR Kyle Ford 

#24 WR Puca Nacua 

#37 WR Drake London

#8 TE Jude Wolfe

So we’re going to do this on a Texas board without lumping the UT guys in for posterity as well?

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53 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

This should be an interesting position group battle to watch over the next few years....

FIFY

TEXAS (Source: https://247sports.com/college/texas/Season/2019-Football/Commits/)

#3      WR: Jordan Whittington
#12    WR Jake Smith
#25    WR Marcus Washington (#25 lol)
#5      TE Brayden Liebrock

 

Oklahoma 

#1 WR Jadon Haselwood 

#3 WR Theo Weese 

#10 WR Trejan Bridges 

#4 TE Austin Stogner 

 

Clemson 

#5 WR Frank Ladson

#8 WR Joe Ngata 

#62 WR Brannon Spector

#9 TE Jaelen Lay

 

SC

#1 ATH Bru Mccoy 

#7 WR Kyle Ford 

#24 WR Puca Nacua 

#37 WR Drake London

#8 TE Jude Wolfe

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TEXAS (Source: https://247sports.com/college/texas/Season/2019-Football/Commits/😞

#3      WR: Jordan Whittington
#12    WR Jake Smith
#25    WR Marcus Washington (#25 lol)
#5      TE Brayden Liebrock

 

Oklahoma 

#1 WR Jadon Haselwood 

#3 WR Theo Weese 

#10 WR Trejan Bridges 

#4 TE Austin Stogner 

 

Clemson 

#5 WR Frank Ladson

#8 WR Joe Ngata 

#62 WR Brannon Spector

#9 TE Jaelen Lay

 

SC

#1 ATH Bru Mccoy 

#7 WR Kyle Ford 

#24 WR Puca Nacua 

#37 WR Drake London

#8 TE Jude Wolfe

The answer is we stack up just fine. 

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Full article, if you are so inclined. Not much depth to it. 

 

 

The Big 12 has two teams ranked in the top 10 of the recruiting Class Rankingsand four in the top 40. The conference is smaller than other Power 5 groups, but the Big 12 has the fewest ESPN 300 prospects committed or signed to its member schools with 30. Comparatively, the SEC has 116 ESPN 300 signees and commits, the Big Ten has 53, the Pac-12 has 38 and the ACC has 34. Leading the way in the conference are Oklahoma and Texas with a combined 23 of the conference's 30 ESPN 300 commitments, which is pretty remarkable. It's no surprise those two schools are at the top of the list, but it doesn't mean there aren't any other good classes in the rest of the conference. Here's a look at where the Big 12 stands with two weeks left before the Feb. 6 signing day.

1. Oklahoma Class rank: 6 Top commit: Five-star WR Jadon Haselwood Total commits: 24 ESPN 300 commits: 11 Oklahoma has a lot of athleticism on offense in this 2019 class, which it will need with Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Kyler Murray off to the NFL ... or MLB. Either way, he's not on the roster anymore, but the staff was able to land ESPN 300 quarterback Spencer Rattler, the No. 1 ranked dual-threat quarterback in the class, to potentially take Murray's place. Rattler is a dynamic athlete who should be able to keep Oklahoma's offensive prowess moving forward once he sees the field. That might not be in his first season, though, because the staff also secured graduate transfer Jalen Hurts from Alabama for his final season of eligibility. Murray's backup this season, Austin Kendall, has since transferred to West Virginia, leaving Rattler and Hurts to battle it out this spring for the starting spot. They will have some big-time receivers to throw to with five-star Haselwood, ESPN 300 receivers Theo Wease Jr. and Trejan Bridges, and No. 1 ranked tight end Austin Stogner signed in the 2019 class. Despite returning its top two running backs, Kennedy Brooks and Trey Sermon, the Oklahoma staff also signed junior college running back Rhamondre Stevenson in this class. There is also help coming to the defensive side with ESPN 300 athlete Jeremiah Criddell, who will start out as a defensive back; ESPN 300 defensive ends Joseph Wete and Marcus Hicks; ESPN 300 corner Jaden Davis; and six four-star defensive commitments ranked just outside the ESPN 300. This class should keep Oklahoma's offense explosive in the years to come and has enough pieces to help build up the defense and fill holes where they're needed to stop other high-powered Big 12 offenses.

2. Texas Class rank: 9 Top commit: ESPN 300 OT Tyler Johnson Total commits: 23 ESPN 300 commits: 12 Texas is following up its excellent 2018 class, which was ranked No. 3 overall, with another top-10 class that will only add more playmakers to both offense and defense. The staff signed 27 prospects in 2018 and now has 23 in 2019, which means there is going to be a lot of youth on the roster this coming season. Defense was a big focus in the 2018 class, and the Longhorns saw some of that youth help early this past season, especially defensive back Caden Sterns, one of the top prospects in the 2018 class. The staff is similarly optimistic 2019 ESPN 300 linebacker De'Gabriel Floyd can make an impact in his first season with the Horns. Floyd is the 55th-ranked prospect in the country out of Westlake Village, California, and an excellent outside linebacker recruit. The staff also has juco defensive end Jacoby Jones and linebacker Caleb Johnson signed. On offense, ESPN 300 wide receivers Jordan Whittington and Jake Smith are two names who could make an impact early on for the Longhorns. Quarterbacks Shane Buechele and Cameron Rising decided to transfer, making ESPN 300 quarterback signee Roschon Johnson that much more important in this 2019 class. 3. TCU Class rank: 31 Top commit: Four-star QB Max Duggan Total commits: 24 ESPN 300 commits: 0 TCU quarterback Shawn Robinson is transferring, but the staff is adding back in Kansas State transfer Alex Delton. The coaches also landed four-star dual-threat quarterback Duggan in this 2019 class and should have some good options at the position going forward. Duggan is one of four four-star commitments in the class. Running back Daimarqua Foster and defensive linemen Karter Johnson and Colt Ellison are the others. Defense was a big focus in this class for TCU since the staff is losing Ben Banogu, L.J. Collier and Michael Epley at defensive end. Head coach Gary Patterson got a big name to help replace that production in South Carolina grad transfer Shameik Blackshear, as well as defensive end recruits Ellison and Thomas Armstrong. The secondary also has been a priority for this staff, which added defensive backs Donavann Collins, Tamauzia Brown, Tre'vius Hodges, Deshawn McCuin, Millard Bradford and Tony Wallace in this cycle. What TCU won't replace right away through the high school ranks the staff has tried to address via the junior college and transfer markets, which should help keep consistency on the depth chart. 4. Baylor Class rank: 36 Top commit: ESPN 300 QB Jacob Zeno Total commits: 23 ESPN 300 commits: 2 Baylor went 7-6 this season, which on the surface doesn't look great. But if you look at the 1-11 record from 2017 and the progress that has been made by coach Matt Rhule and his staff, you can see Rhule's system is starting to work. That includes how and who the staff is recruiting. The Bears finished with the No. 24 class in 2018 and now hold the No. 36 class in 2019. They aren't losing a ton on defense, but are still restocking the line with six commitments from defensive linemen. That includes ESPN JC 50 defensive end Niadre Zouzoua, the No. 47 ranked junior college prospect. Offensively, Zeno is the top-ranked commitment overall at No. 137 in the ESPN 300. Zeno is a 6-foot-3, 188-pound quarterback out of San Antonio and has the luxury of coming in behind starter Charlie Brewer and Gerry Bohanon. Baylor won't need Zeno to play right away, but the staff has built up a good competition at the position, giving them some excellent options for the future. There are also a few playmakers to help the quarterbacks in receivers Yusuf Terryand Jaylen Ellis and tight end Samuel Snyder. There are still four prospects on Baylor's commitment list who have not signed their letters of intent, so making sure they all remain in the class and sign in February is a priority.

5. Oklahoma State Class rank: 41 Top commit: ESPN 300 RB Deondrick Glass Total commits: 21 ESPN 300 commits: 2 Oklahoma State signed 20 of its 21 commitments in this class, securing the No. 41 class with a lot to like from top to bottom. Starting at the top, Glass is an excellent start to the class. The Cowboys are losing running back Justice Hill to the NFL draft, and while Chuba Hubbard is still on the roster, adding in a prospect like Glass will add even more talent to that running back room. The staff is losing Britton Abbott and Sione Finefeuiaki at the Cowboy back position, but ESPN 300 tight end Grayson Boomer could take over there in the near future . Defense is really where this team is losing the most, with five starters in the front seven gone as well as safety Kenneth Edison-McGruder. There is depth behind them, but the staff also brought in junior college defensive tackle Sione Asi as well as seven other prospects along the defensive line and at linebacker, including three-star defensive end Trace Ford. The offense should be able to hum at a high level in 2019, but the 2019 class needs to fill voids and provide meaningful playing time on defense for the Cowboys to be successful.

6. West Virginia Class rank: 44 Top commit: ESPN JC 50 CB Dreshun Miller Total commits: 18 ESPN 300 commits: 1 The Mountaineers went through a coaching change after the early signing period when Dana Holgorsen left for Houston. Former Troy coach Neal Brown has since taken over and already has 16 prospects signed from the early signing period. That isn't ideal for the recruits, but it gives Brown a chance to fill the roster without losing any commitments late in the process. That is a big deal considering starting quarterback Will Grier, receivers Gary Jennings Jr., David Sills V, Dominique Maiden, William Crest Jr. and tight end Trevon Wesco are gone. That is a lot of production to replace on offense, and this class already being fully signed means they will have options in 2019. Class of 2019 wide receivers Ali Jennings, Terence Doston, Winston Wright and transfer Isaiah Esdale will be good options to contribute early. On defense, the secondary was a priority this cycle, and the roster will be bolstered by juco defensive back Miller, who is already enrolled at West Virginia. Miller is ranked the No. 11 junior college prospect in this class and should be able to contribute early next season. The staff also landed commitments from defensive backs Osita Smith, Tykee Smith, Kerry Martin Jr. and Nicktroy Fortune in the class. There should be some pieces in this class who can help defensively early on, but the losses on offense are going to be tough for Brown to overcome in his first season. It might take a few seasons to get the roster back to where it needs to be offensively, but this class is a good foundation on which to build.

7. Iowa State Class rank: 46 Top commit: Three-star RB Jirehl Brock Total commits 20 ESPN 300 commits: 0 With 20 commitments in the class, Iowa State raised its recruiting class ranking to 46 in 2019, up from 53 in 2017 and 58 in 2018. It isn't a flashy class, but that's not how the Cyclones recruit. This class is filled with the type of prospects you would expect to see from a Matt Campbell team. The staff prepared for top-rusher David Montgomery to leave early for the NFL draft by landing two running backs in the 2019 class. Brock, a 5-foot-11, 185-pound back from Illinois, is the highest-ranked commit in the class and is joined by running back Breece Hall, a 6-foot-1, 200-pound recruit out of Wichita, Kansas. Quarterback Brock Purdy is returning, but he won't have Montgomery, top receiver Hakeem Butler or Matthew Eaton, who all declared for the draft. The team is returning Denzel Mims, the team leader in receiving touchdowns, and bringing in wide receiver Darien Porter, Ezeriah Anderson and D'Shayne James in this class. This is a well-thought out class that should be able to provide early help where needed and depth for future seasons.

8. Kansas State Class rank: Not ranked Top commit: ESPN 300 QB Chris Herron Total commits: 18 ESPN 300 commits: 2 Kansas State has all but two commitments signed in this class, which is helpful for new coach Chris Klieman and his staff. The two prospects who haven't signed are three-star linebacker Gavin Potter and safety Tyrone Lewis, who only recently committed to Kansas State on Jan. 13. The staff has its top two commits, Herron and ESPN 300 wide receiver Keenan Garber, signed. Quarterback Skylar Thompson is returning next season, but backup Alex Delton transferred to TCU. Adding Herron to this class for depth is a big deal for this season and eventual seasons in the future. Kansas State is also bringing in transfer running back James Gilbert and safety Marcus Hayes. Gilbert is a grad transfer, so he is eligible immediately and will add to a running back room that returns starter Alex Barnes. This team has a lot returning on both offense and defense, so the 2019 recruiting class won't be expected to make an immediate impact.

9. Texas Tech Class rank: NR Top commit: Three-star DE Gilbert Ibeneme Total commits: 15 ESPN 300 commits: 0 Texas Tech dealt with a coaching change after Kliff Kingsbury was fired and Matt Wells was hired from Utah State. Wells came in just a few weeks before the early signing period and was still able to sign 11 in the 2019 class. The staff is losing its top-two receivers, Antoine Wesley and Ja'Deion High, but has most of the other starters on offense returning.Wide receivers Cameron Cantrell and Trey Cleveland as well as tight end Simon Gonzalez and junior college tight end Travis Koontz can help fill in some gaps. There are still four recruits committed but unsigned in this class, and Wells stated after signing day he will be looking to add more pieces, so he and his staff have some work left to do.

10. Kansas Class rank: NR Top commit: ESPN JC 50 DE Malcolm Lee Total commits: 11 ESPN 300 commits: 0 When Les Miles took over at Kansas in November, the Jayhawks had one prospect committed in the 2019 class. That was Cole Mueller, who decommitted weeks later. Miles and his staff have since built a class of 11 prospects, 10 of which signed in December. That is worth something, given the short amount of time the coaches had and what they inherited. Unfortunately for Miles, the 2019 roster is losing quite a bit, especially on defense. Five starters along the front seven are departing, as well as two backup defensive tackles and starting corner Shakial Taylor. Miles is bringing in Lee, juco defensive tackle Caleb Sampson, juco safety Justin Ford and juco receivers Andrew Parchment and Ezra Naylor in this class. Getting some immediate help from those prospects will be imperative for next season. The size of this recruiting class, combined with the number of players the staff is losing from the roster is going to make this a tough rebuild for Miles.

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

So we’re going to do this on a Texas board without lumping the UT guys in for posterity as well?

To be completely honest, I had forgotten how good Texas's WR haul was this year, which is pretty bad, considering how much I like Whittington....I actually think SC's class will be the least productive. 

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28 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

Perroni's list will look an awful lot like the Loochie 44.

It fucking pisses me off that the whiny guttersnipes following ATM caused this kind of reaction with Terry. Grow a pair, dude. I figured his time in prison would have given him more courage, but maybe he played bitch. 

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