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  On 12/6/2019 at 8:49 PM, Jive Turkey said:

If only she’d done this before the 2016 election. 

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  On 12/7/2019 at 2:40 AM, 4th&Five said:

He tried publicly to get her on. She had some real dumb shits advising her. 

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In his latest book, he talks about this a bit.  Here's an excerpt:

 

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  On 12/7/2019 at 9:56 PM, Onboard 2.0 said:

Yes, calling her a POS is obsession. I think it's more you're obsessed with the idea I'm obsessed with her.

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Your selectivity and frequency is almost impossible not to notice. But I'm all ears- list all the heinous acts committed by Hillary "since before she stepped into the national spotlight" that has rendered her a POS in your eyes.

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  On 12/7/2019 at 9:56 PM, Onboard 2.0 said:

Yes, calling her a POS is obsession. I think it's more you're obsessed with the idea I'm obsessed with her.

I don't think I've said much about her since she finally did go back to ground for a while.  Meaning yeah, if the Hillary thread pops up I'm gonna more than likely post something about her.  Ohhh noes.... obsession. 

She's still testing the waters.  She has nightly, fitful visions of riding in on her broom.... err ........ white charger, and saving the day by winning the 2020.  

THAT my friend is obsession.

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Please tell us more about her emails and what a terrible president she would make. I mean you couldn't possibly think of anyone worse than this woman

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  On 12/7/2019 at 4:02 PM, Nivek said:


I disagree with so much. Hillary was the victim of a successful multi-decade long smear campaign that worked. So many people don’t like her and even hate her for exactly no reason.

She was a fine candidate, experienced, poised, but she made enemies because she had something so many people were afraid of, guts. She is smart and accomplished. She likely kept her personality hidden and hardened because she grew up in a time when the rules of conduct were more different than today based on gender.

Russians and Facebook took advantage of the smear campaign and shifted the election. If we had a real government we would have stopped this and/nullified the results in favor of a do over. The media trying to play it even was even more asinine. Those idiots got played. They were never going to win over the morons who watch alex jones. Intelligent media does not appeal to rush/fox/oan viewers. Never will.

Facebook should be taken over by the government since they cannot seem to stop being fuckheads.


 

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One of the things I've found befuddling and frustrating is the number of people who will volunteer how much they hate Hillary but are hard pressed to explain why. After mumbling something about her being some kind of crook, they just repeat the I hate Hillary talking points. I'm most angry about the fact that we'll never get to see her grap Putin by the pussy and make him behave.

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Hillary hasn't done anything worse than most mainstream politicians in terms of bad acts or terrible specific behaviors. The idea of her as a murderer is especially hilarious in its stupidity as is the whole Benghazi thing of troops saying, "WE CAN SAVE THEM!" and Hillary saying, "NO I WANT THEM TO DIE FOR SOME REASON!"

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  On 12/7/2019 at 10:36 PM, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Your selectivity and frequency is almost impossible not to notice. But I'm all ears- list all the heinous acts committed by Hillary "since before she stepped into the national spotlight" that has rendered her a POS in your eyes.

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You must be 12. Do your own homework. PRO TIP: She was embroiled in shit starting with Whitewater, and then her magical cattle future scam, then her attempts to smear the women her husband was fucking behind her back, the Clinton foundation was a slush fund. Piss off with your attempts to just ignore her history.   Now go hump somebody elses leg.

You, and knight can spoon together, and whisper sweet lies about how great she was into each others ears.

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  On 12/8/2019 at 3:30 PM, 4th&Five said:

 Now do your hero, Trump. 

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Yeah he's my hero, He beat that POS that was glorious.  He's done his own dirty shit. She was living on the publics dime when she did much of her BS.

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All of Onboard’s reasons for hating Hillary are incredibly stupid, because he’s incredibly stupid. If you’re going to hate her, hate her because she thinks free public college is “chocolate milk for everybody!”

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  On 12/8/2019 at 3:50 PM, wildcat09 said:

All of Onboard’s reasons for hating Hillary are incredibly stupid, because he’s incredibly stupid. If you’re going to hate her, hate her because she thinks free public college is “chocolate milk for everybody!”

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Heeeey fuck you very much....  Hillary is a POS, end of subject.

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  On 12/8/2019 at 3:33 PM, Onboard 2.0 said:

Yeah he's my hero, He beat that POS that was glorious.  He's done his own dirty shit. She was living on the publics dime when she did much of her BS.

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That's like saying "I don't want Urban Meyer coaching Texas because he's a piece of shit. So my vote went to Jeffrey Epstein, who's bringing in Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby as his coordinators."

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  On 12/8/2019 at 2:39 PM, Onboard 2.0 said:

You must be 12. Do your own homework. PRO TIP: She was embroiled in shit starting with Whitewater, and then her magical cattle future scam, then her attempts to smear the women her husband was fucking behind her back, the Clinton foundation was a slush fund. Piss off with your attempts to just ignore her history.   Now go hump somebody elses leg.

You, and knight can spoon together, and whisper sweet lies about how great she was into each others ears.

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If I was 12 I would make hysterical, drama queen characterizations of her riding a broom or smelling of sulphur. I would probably demonstrate an inability to make any distinction between an accusation made in the media, a sworn accusation opening the accuser to legal liability, sworn accusations contradicted by other multiple sworn testimonies, indictments, legal settlements, convictions, and investigations that find no wrong doing.

 

Whitewater

 

Three separate inquiries into a failed Arkansas land deal finding insufficient evidence of criminal conduct by Hillary.

You certainly know how to bring the fire, Onboard. Citing a case in which Hillary wasn't charged, indicted...anything...as your opening number is a face plant right off the stage. Your hero NY real estate developer would call this a Tuesday except the investigation would include a lot more mobsters.

 

Magical Cattle Futures Scam

 

See? This is the one you should have led off with. This is the one that probably has the most merit- and, as BT alluded to and as I have previously stated on this board, probably falls around the typical median for political corruption or wrong doing. Unfortunately, this is standard fare and doesn't rocket her to the top of the pile that includes the former GOP speaker of the House sentenced to prison for covering up his kid fucking despite your previous claims on this board that "NOBODY" is more corrupt than the object of your obsession. I have no problem giving you this one.

 

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Hoo boy....Trump supporter strikes a taking offense at smears pose. This is a "where to begin?" situation, particularly when it involves sexual assault/harassment and your contention is Hillary's a bigger POS than Donald- I'll take that up later, cuz I wanna see the end of this Chiefs game... 

 

 

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  On 12/8/2019 at 3:58 PM, Onboard 2.0 said:

Heeeey fuck you very much....  Hillary is a POS, end of subject.

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Serious question:  Why don't you like her?  Still pissed about Vincent Foster and Jeffery Epstein?  You better watch your step.  

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  On 12/7/2019 at 10:18 PM, workswithseed said:

I don't agree with the man, but I still don't understand how this lost him the bid

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The expectations were SO HIGH for him in Iowa at the time.  He was supposed to win it in a blowout and ended up coming in distant 3rd.  It wasn’t the “BYAH!!!” as much as it was something clearly wasn’t adding up between the hype and the results of Howard Dean.  The over zealous rant kinda reinforced the narrative.

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  On 12/8/2019 at 4:08 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Hillary is a national treasure, we were lucky to have her in public service. 

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Damn, you are mean AF, Hugo. You know that will trigger a dick measuring contest between BT and Onboard with their diatribes of her awfulness to figure out who hates her more. Yes, yes she was a bitch but she isn't worth a second thought now fuckers....she is in the rearview mirror along with Mary Todd Lincoln and the second Mrs. Wilson.

She got fucked by Putin and it is over for her. But at least she isn't the type that laments what made Putin hate her which is that she ground her heel on his neck while he was down. She did the right thing for the right reasons then but it fucked her hard and kept her from her most treasured goal. Yet she is isn't the type to lick anyone's dick like Ted Cruz or Lindsey Graham to stay in power. I know she is a slimy bitch but I respect that about her.  

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I dislike her because she and her neoliberal zombies think "free public college is 'chocolate milk for everybody!'"

It is time to move on. Hillary will never be President. Thank goodness. We don't need dimwits who think a college education is priced correctly today. Absolute idiocy. And a Republican talking point. 

Her buddy Neera Tanden is supporting Boris Johnson - a fucking Tory for fuck's sake. The neoliberal use the Democratic Party label to cover for their Goldwater Girl Republicanism. It is time to move on from them. 

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And it wasn't Sanders' fault she lost the 2016 Election or his supporters. She lost it. Her campaign lost it. Sanders gave 39 speeches for her after the nomination. His ground people warned Hillary and her advisors she should be campaigning hard in the Upper Midwest. She and her campaign advisors ignored the advice. They rested on their media laurels pronouncing Hillary as the Greatest Football Team, errr. . ., Hillary as the inevitable President.

She had reason to be confident. She ran against the guy her campaign WANTED to run against.

Hillary made some horrible mistakes and I am sorry for those of you who are stuck in that moment. It must suck. But it is not your fault. And there is no need to be defensive. The mistakes were made at the top by Robbie Mook and Hillary (and Bill). Sanders and his people tried to warn them. They ignored and now they make excuses. This display by Hillary is to try and deflect attention away from her stunning loss and her campaign's failure to blame it on anyone, I mean anyone, but them and their mistakes. She does not want that as her legacy and I can't blame her for that want - but it is not what the country needs right now. 

She needs to get up, look at what happened, and do better. Do better for humanity. If she can't try to do better for all Americans, including the people she called deplorables. What a horrible thing to say about a person. And for political junkies, that is the worst political malpractice I have ever seen - ever. If this was Mook's decision, she needs to sue him for political malpractice. I am sure he has some E&O coverage for this. She should fight against his insurance companies if they deny the claim. 

If it was her idea to single out a large group of people who traditionally identified as Democrats in the working and middle class who also easily VOTE,  well . . . she need to dust herself off, actually learn from her mistake, and fight for something real in the lives of others less fortunate than her. And apologize to her supporters for the mistakes of her campaign. Ask them to go out and vote for the candidate who will work for those less fortunate than her - the 99.0%. And then she should speak of ambitious plans to make this a better world.

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All the kids in school should get free chocolate milk. And they should get more pizza.

Hillary could prevent this from happening, but she doesn't, because she's genuinely a bad person. She's petty and spiteful. She only wanted power for herself and didn't actually care about anything. For those of you who think that's going too far, answer this question: What has she been doing to make the lives of Americans better since she lost?

She goes into hiding only to regularly surface for the express purpose of spewing bitterness at Bernie and blaming him for her historic failure.

And here is MSNBC, putting up a roundtable and literally just giving Hillary staffers turns one after the other to spout complete BS.

Bernie started campaigning for Hillary the day after they 2016 Dem platform was released (they spent a month negotiating policy planks, because Bernie actually cares about policy) Hillary started campaigning sooner because Obama told her she could be Secretary of State and that was all Hillary cared about, power and prestige

But at the end of the day, Bernie did 3x the events for Hillary that Hillary did for Obama. And Bernie's primary voters were 2x as loyal to Hillary as Hillary's were to Obama.

But it's not going to work. The more Hillary inserts herself into this the better it is for Bernie. Go ahead, loser, keep it up. Get all the attention on yourself and Bernie so you can lose again and get humiliated again.

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I half agree with this. I don't think he hates her, but he is absolutely setting her up to step on a rake.

Even if Howard's intentions are to rehabilitate this ghoul's image, his nature is set and his moves as an interviewer are determined by decades of practice. He is here to get the person to embarrass themselves. He can go in thinking, "OK we're going to get real and human and blah blah" but his instinct for baiting is strong and his ability to bait is legendary.

He saw the part of her book that made people angriest and he served it back to her as if it was his own thought.

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He genuinely likes Donald as a person, not just as a radio guest. He's so insulated from everything that he has the savior mindset of "I can see the good in everyone!" and, as a result, he launders the evil of power, because that's what he seeks and its what he identifies with. There's no underlying framework of ideology to work from, he just finds a big name and finds an interesting angle and that's good enough for him.

I don't care about Donald's unique vulnerabilities, I care about how he exercises power.
I don't care about Hillary's down-to-earth side, I care about how she would have exercised power.

Are we seriously going to be seduced by the, "Who do you want to have a beer with?" BS again so soon after W?

Howard helped launder the image of a venal monster who will probably go down as the worst or, at least, most embarrassing president in the history of our nation. Doing a down-home interview with the woman who lost to him as she attempts to sabotage her enemies in the process doesn't change that.

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I disagree.  Howard liked him as a guest because he's ridiculous. And ridiculous is funny.  He has railed pretty repeatedly on what a shitty president he is, actively campaigned against him during the last election and relentlessly ridicules the people on his staff that voted for Trump.  You feel free to believe whatever you want, but you are factually incorrect here.

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Then what are you arguing? That’s what we’ve been saying. Anyone that regularly listens to the show knows how he feels about trump the president. 

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  On 12/10/2019 at 12:31 AM, 4th&Five said:

Then what are you arguing?

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That Howard is part of the reason we have the president he supposedly hates. He constantly gave Trump a platform because he likes Trump personally and was able to make money and grow fame off of promoting Trump's repellant persona and repugnant ideas. Guess who else liked Trump personally not long ago: Hillary Clinton

The idea that he was going to get Hillary elected is absurd and transparently self-serving.

Garbage laundering garbage.

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I kind of like Hillary hanging out in public view but powerless.  As long as her name is out there, the conservative machine that spent the past two-and-a-half decades destroying all that is Clinton will focus some of their attention on her, versus targeting the next threat to this shitastic flavor of conservatism.

I'm all about the downfall of Trump and the ideology he champions.  Anyone playing a role in that, no matter how small, is ok in my book.



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