Formula One 2020

[Dutch 4577]

Great finish for Lando/McLaren; really happy for him and his team. But wow Mercades are just so far ahead of the field. Lewis takes a 5-sec pen and still misses 3rd by only 0.198. 

Next weekend should be interesting. It is good to have F1 back. 

Edited July 5, 2020 by Dutch

[Goofyboy 3434]

I didn’t like Hamilton’s penalty. From the on board camera, he was turning and never turned to the left into Albon. In other races that was just hard racing. I agree with full
Time stewards

[Hawndoh 2409]

I thought Hamilton's penalty was fine. Albon was ahead and should have been given the space.

McLaren has to be encouraged, they had good pace all day and it looks like it may be a fight between them, Racing Point, and Ferrari for third fastest team.

Renault is disappointing, as is Haas.

I also wonder if Williams can challenge Alpha and get off the bottom rung of the ladder. Alpha didn't seem to have much more pace than Russell.

Edited July 5, 2020 by Hawndoh

[Prepuce of Doom 21285]

5 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Pretty dull race so far. 

Got any stock tips?! 

The one time I'm actually rooting for Lewis he shits the bed. I can see both sides on his penalty though. 

The font F1 used in their "End Racism" logos really looks like it says "2nd Racism" until you look directly at it.

Kmag did a masterful job keeping his car off the wall and out of the gravel trap. Really incredible car control. 

Is there any reason why the 0.0 beers (Heineken and Estrella whatever the Spanish beer is) are so heavily advertised/represented? 

Are the cars a little louder this year? 

What happens to last year's safety cars? I think I need one of the retired medical car AMG wagons. 

 

[elfenix 34749]

that race was processional as fuck and then the last 10 laps happened.  that's why you play the games!

43 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Is there any reason why the 0.0 beers (Heineken and Estrella whatever the Spanish beer is) are so heavily advertised/represented? 

anti drunk driving campaigns get undermined by regular beer, i guess.

43 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Are the cars a little louder this year? 

i was thinking the ferrari onboard sounds like it's muffled or played through an AM radio

[wood 11766]

3 hours ago, Goofyboy said:

I didn’t like Hamilton’s penalty. From the on board camera, he was turning and never turned to the left into Albon. In other races that was just hard racing. I agree with full
Time stewards

It's hard racing when you have the lead on the exit of the turn and run the other guy off on the outside. When you have the lead, you can claim the racing line on exit. Not when the other guy is ahead tho. When the other car is alongside, or as in this case has the lead, you have to leave him a car's width of room. 

Edited July 5, 2020 by wood

[wood 11766]

1 hour ago, Hawndoh said:

I thought Hamilton's penalty was fine. Albon was ahead and should have been given the space.

McLaren has to be encouraged, they had good pace all day and it looks like it may be a fight between them, Racing Point, and Ferrari for third fastest team.

Renault is disappointing, as is Haas.

I also wonder if Williams can challenge Alpha and get off the bottom rung of the ladder. Alpha didn't seem to have much more pace than Russell.

Yeah that's a clear penalty.

Definitely encouraged by McLaren. So much quicker than Renault with the same PU, wow. Lando, what a race, and what a (fastest) lap to win it with!

Really feel bad for Albon.

Haas, what is this -  the third straight year they've lost both cars to the same issue in the opener? They're a bit of a joke imho, & from wehat I can tell, they aren't long for the F1 world.

Latifi, wow. Wayyy off the pace. Still finished 11th after all the attrition.

 

[wood 11766]

1 hour ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Are the cars a little louder this year? 

What happens to last year's safety cars? I think I need one of the retired medical car AMG wagons. 

 

Didn't notice a different SC. Maybe I missed it.

42 minutes ago, elfenix said:

i was thinking the ferrari onboard sounds like it's muffled or played through an AM radio

It's some kinda funky mic or filter they're using to make the current pu sound higher pitched in a weak, vain attempt to make them sound like the older PUs. Sounds terrible. They've used it in the past but really used it a lot today.

[elfenix 34749]

lando with a few streams after the race (a bit boring, i imagine he's exhausted)

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/670951530

 

Edited July 5, 2020 by elfenix

[Prepuce of Doom 21285]

I just assumed that Mercedes would want to show off their newest cars each year - never occurred to me that they would use the same cars across seasons. 

Edited July 5, 2020 by Prepuce of Doom

[wood 11766]

Wonder what this is ... sponsor? Driver? Who knows with Renault.

https://twitter.com/Noemidemiguel/status/1279908855825260548

Translation: As I have been informed, on Wednesday #Renault is planning to make an official announcement. 

 After the race, Cyril Abiteboul has told veteran mechanics (those who have been around for more than 15 years) that they have already worked with him. 

 Good night 
#F1#Renault

 

BTW, this is Noemi. She interviewed my kid at F1 Fan Fest 3 or 4 years ago. Mmmm ...

Edited July 6, 2020 by wood

[Prepuce of Doom 21285]

 

 

[faps 818]

2 hours ago, wood said:

Wonder what this is ... sponsor? Driver? Who knows with Renault.

I'd guess driver and surely it's not Alonso. Not sure who the hell else it'd be though.

[elfenix 34749]

narrator: it's alonso

[elfenix 34749]

19 hours ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

I just assumed that Mercedes would want to show off their newest cars each year - never occurred to me that they would use the same cars across seasons. 

[elfenix 34749]

i've been calling the 2020 racing points "2019 mercedes" because it looks like they built a 2019 mercedes and gave it pink paint. 

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

Alonso coming back to Renault in 2021 to race in the midfield.

[wood 11766]

10 hours ago, Anton Chigurh said:

Alonso coming back to Renault in 2021 to race in the midfield.

I doubt he thinks Renault will be competitive in 2021 any more than the rest of us do. He's been saying for a while that he wants to be around for the new rules. Unfortunately those have been pushed back, again, to 2022. In the meantime, the sport will be better off with him back on the grid.

I also think there may be more to this just just a simple driving gig.

Edited July 8, 2020 by wood

[wood 11766]

Whoa ... sounds like a lotta shit goin' down behind the scenes:

Hughes: Could Alonso deal ripples let Vettel and Ferrari split early? https://the-race.com/formula-1/could-alonso-deal-ripples-let-vettel-and-ferrari-split-early/

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

I have read some rumors of “something happening”. We will see.

BTW, does anyone know where The-Race came from? They seemed to pop up during quarantine when they sponsored some sim races, but now they have stuck around and have some pretty big name writers. Did they used to be something else and I missed a name change?

[wood 11766]

24 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said:

I have read some rumors of “something happening”. We will see.

BTW, does anyone know where The-Race came from? They seemed to pop up during quarantine when they sponsored some sim races, but now they have stuck around and have some pretty big name writers. Did they used to be something else and I missed a name change?

They were around a little while before COVID, but I'm not sure when they actually got started.

Re: the Vettel stuff, there's a lot of talk of something very big being announced tomorrow, and now Turrini has tweeted suggesting there is something big coming from Ferrari tomorrow. Who knows. Nobody's saying what it is, but of course speculation abounds.

IF Vettel is being let go mid-season, that certainly could set off a chain reaction I guess...

Edited July 8, 2020 by wood

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

My guess is he is essentially being forced out early, and will probably call it a sabbatical or something. If they’re able to get Sainz early they will, but it won’t matter since they’re pretty off the pace this year.

If they are able to get Sainz early, I’m sure Renault will let Danny go and just being in Fred early.

[wood 11766]

1 minute ago, Anton Chigurh said:

My guess is he is essentially being forced out early, and will probably call it a sabbatical or something. If they’re able to get Sainz early they will, but it won’t matter since they’re pretty off the pace this year.

If they are able to get Sainz early, I’m sure Renault will let Danny go and just being in Fred early.

Yeah that's the most popular scenario going around. Sounds like Vettel is off the reservation, so to speak...

[Hawndoh 2409]

I'd like to see Danny at McLaren right now. They seem to have a decent car and I'd like to see how he fares against Norris.

[wood 11766]

Report: F1 cutting 2020 rounds in U.S., Canada, Brazil, & Mexico. Announcement coming next week:   https://veja.abril.com.br/esporte/coronavirus-gp-do-brasil-de-formula-1-de-2020-sera-cancelado/

[Updawg 2385]

Not too surprising

[PittsburghTiger 6343]

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a33265471/f1-vettel-says-would-return-red-bull/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=070920&utm_campaign=nl20862202&utm_term=AUT_Autoweek_Racing_Daily_Newsletter_Subscribers

 

Sebastian Vettel has confirmed he would accept a Red Bull contract if the team were to offer him one, although Racing Point remains a possible destination for the German, too.

You could say Vettel enjoyed a successful period with Red Bull, securing four drivers’ and constructors’ World Championship doubles between 2010-13. 

The team is now the stomping ground of Max Verstappen, and Vettel was not turned off by the prospect of going toe to toe with Red Bull's current No. 1. Verstappen is currently under contract with Red Bull through 2023. Alexander Albon occupies the other Red Bull seat.

"Generally I'm of the conviction that if you want to win you have to be happy to take on anyone,” current Ferrari driver Vettel said during Thursday's FIA press conference in Austria.

[wood 11766]

^^@updawg: Nope ...

Edited July 10, 2020 by wood

[PittsburghTiger 6343]

40 minutes ago, wood said:

^^@updawg: Nope ...

I too think that Red Bull ship has passed through the night. Racing Point though Is interesting. 

[wood 11766]

15 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

I too think that Red Bull ship has passed through the night. Racing Point though Is interesting. 

Yeah I agree ... but that post was a response to updawg. I shoulda quoted him. I think you & I posted about the same time.

[wood 11766]

 You know ... MotoGP's Ezpeleta has already hinted at an abbreviated 2021 calendar, and this is when calendars are formed for following seasons. We've all been pretty focused on how F1 is handling the 2020 schedule, but they're going to have to start figuring some things out about 2021 pretty soon as well. When do provisional calendars typically come out? September? That's a couple of months away. With the COVID-19 situation still in flux, it seems like planning for next year will also be very difficult, possibly more difficult than adjusting on the fly for this year.

Edited July 10, 2020 by wood

[elfenix 34749]

On 7/8/2020 at 6:15 PM, Anton Chigurh said:

I have read some rumors of “something happening”. We will see.

BTW, does anyone know where The-Race came from? They seemed to pop up during quarantine when they sponsored some sim races, but now they have stuck around and have some pretty big name writers. Did they used to be something else and I missed a name change?

they were doing english language commentary of superformula for the 2019 season  (the SF19 is a bad ass looking car).  back then they were called LetsGoRacing iirc:

 

 

 

 

edit: looks like they did super gt back in 2018

Edited July 10, 2020 by elfenix

[wood 11766]

So, no news re: the big news that was supposed to drop today....

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

Some F3 notes:

There is another Schumacher. Ralf’s kid is in F3.

Mick Doohan’s kid is also in F3.

Emerson Fittipaldi’s grandson Enzo is in F3. His brother, Pietro, you have probably seen in a few IndyCar races. Pietro is also currently the Haas test driver.

[52-80 19377]

I kept seeing new videos on youtube about the STYRIAN Grand Prix and I thought the F1 channel was just re-uploading old shit from last weekend.... had no idea theyre actually hosting a second race there as well

 

 

so you got the Italian GP and the Tuscan GP... and then British GP and 70th anniversary GP... they couldnt call the 2nd race the English GP?

Edited July 10, 2020 by 52-80

[Dutch 4577]

The Pink Merc seems to be killing it; Perez and Stroll placed 3rd and 4th in FP2 after Perez led FP1. 

1. Max Verstappen    Red Bull    1:03.660
2. Valtteri Bottas    Mercedes    +0.043
3. Sergio Perez    Racing Point    +0.217
4. Lance Stroll    Racing Point    +0.581
5. Carlos Sainz    McLaren    +0.673
6. Lewis Hamilton    Mercedes    +0.688
7. Alexander Albon    Red Bull    +0.777
8. Lando Norris    McLaren    +0.881
9. Charles Leclerc    Ferrari    +1.046
10. Esteban Ocon    Renault    +1.086
11. Pierre Gasly    AlphaTauri    +1.097
12. Daniil Kvyat    AlphaTauri    +1.390
13. Kimi Raikkonen    Alfa Romeo    +1.492
14. Antonio Giovinazzi    Alfa Romeo    +1.705
15. George Russell    Williams    +1.928
16. Sebastian Vettel    Ferrari    +1.953
17. Nicholas Latifi    Williams    +1.995
18. Kevin Magnussen    Haas    +2.130
19. Romain Grosjean    Haas    +2.436
20. Daniel Ricciardo    Renault    No time set

Edited July 10, 2020 by Dutch

[wood 11766]

AMuS: F1 European Triple Header in October, with Portimao, Hockenheim, or Imola likely taking COTA's USGP slot. American GPs very unlikely. China already canceled: 
https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/f1-kalender-2020-hockenheim-gp-deutschland-oktober/

[Lidig8r 1906]

Ok, what the hell with Ferrari? I read previously that before Covid, they had some issues and did not expect to compete until the latter half of the season. But ... ?

Is Vettel just mailing it in?

Or do their cars just suck so much this year?

[faps 818]

Can't cheat with the engine anymore, so they lost their power advantage.

[wood 11766]

Re: getting to 15 races, I'm told there's a street race planned for Jeddah in the spring for the 2021 calendar, and that it's also on standby for a December or January date on the 2020 calendar if needed.

Edited July 10, 2020 by wood

[52-80 19377]

Strong rain the entire day today.  Looks like qualifying is really canceled

[faps 818]

Why not qualify the same day as the race like they did here in 2015?

[ChickenSandwich 9959]

Think that is the plan 

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

That was awesome.

[TonyTexas 10766]

Ferrari is in for a long season. 

[PittsburghTiger 6343]

I'm glad they completed that today. That just showed the skill level these guys possess. I've been a Vettel fan since he burst on the scene but I do take some perverse pleasure in watching Ferrari struggle. The Ferrari, like I said last week, are looking like they could have a disastrous season.

How funny would it be if Norris and Sainz beat one, or both, of Vettel and LeClerc in this season's standings?

Seven of the top-10 engines today are Renault and Honda. That's pretty cool

I really am beginning to root for Russell. So glad to see new(ish) faces, and cars, like Ocon, Albon and Gasly doing well. I think Gasly got a bit of a raw deal last year.

Even in the terrible weather that track, and setting, is gorgeous.

It's time for Haas to decide if they really want to do this. It's also past time for Kimi to step aside.

Fun stuff, as it should be.

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

Sounds like it’s possible that there may not be a Hungarian race, due to their restrictions. Might run a third Austrian GP.

[Goofyboy 3434]

Lewis a full 1.2 seconds faster in the rain. That was awesome.

 

HAAS has Ferrari power and a guy that loves to crash. That’s not a good combo

[elfenix 34749]

That was already amazing and then ham with the royal flush on the last lap

[pops 7142]

Vettel is being a cunt... and not sure I blame him, but no reason for him to even try this season. They should cut him a check and have their third driver in the car.   Vettel has nothing to prove and will sign a huge deal for next year. 

Hamilton was on another level today. Circa 2000 tiger woods. 

Racing point is fun as hell.