Formula One 2020

[faps 806]

Can they just specify fuel flow restriction and no refueling. Boom, use whatever engine you want. In the 90's there were V8's, V10's and V12's all on the grid at once.

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

That would make the performance disparity even larger than it is now.

[52-80 19066]

1 hour ago, wood said:

Well, that escalated quickly... It is gpblog, but who knows.

'Volkswagen is ready to enter F1 as a partner of Red Bull' https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/69526/-volkswagen-is-ready-to-enter-f1-as-a-partner-of-red-bull-.html

under what brand... porsche?  audi?

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

under what brand... porsche?  audi?

Seat!

[52-80 19066]

12 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said:

Seat!

They'd have to buy out Carloth Thainz from ferrari

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

On 10/2/2020 at 5:11 PM, Anton Chigurh said:

Seat!

If it is NOT Porsche I would go with Skoda, or MAN. Max could then be a Red Bull MAN.

 

Sucks that Honda is leaving. I think they were getting really close, especially with the new regulations coming soon.

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a34256302/f1-steward-answers-criticism-over-lewis-hamilton-penalty-in-russia/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=100420&utm_campaign=nl21692903&utm_term=AUT_Autoweek_Weekend_Racing_Wrapup_Newsletter_Subscribers

 

Former F1 driver and one of the stewards for the F1 Russian Grand Prix, Mika Salo says that he thought Lewis Hamilton's penalties at Sochi were a bit harsh.

Salo came under fire this past week after Hamilton and his fans accused the governing body of unfairly targeting the six-time world champion. Salo was also criticized for allegedly leaking information about the penalties to a Finnish broadcaster.

[wood 11103]

Hmm ... we'll see, I guess.

 

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

3 hours ago, wood said:

Hmm ... we'll see, I guess.

 

Interesting for sure. The more engines the better.

[wood 11103]

Lindsey Vonn Considered F1 Driving Career, Wouldn't Agree to Pregnancy Restrictions https://www.tmz.com/2020/10/07/lindsey-vonn-considered-f1-race-car-driving-career-pregnancy-pk-subban/

That's so weird. I, too, considered an F1 driving career!

[wood 11103]

I also considered switching from Firefighter to: Major League Baseball player, Top Gun Instructor, Professional Beach Volleyball Player, Astronaut, Cowboy, Iron Man, and Bazillionaire.

[wood 11103]

[wood 11103]

AMUS reporting a few things today. In summary:

-The team principles want a meeting after Portugal to discuss fast tracking a new, simpler engine formula, as early as 2023.- It would keep the same V6 (no mention of higher fuel flow / twin turbo) and maintain a hybrid element, which would be a more powerful KERS like solution (presumably this means removing the MGU-H)- The FIA want to stop development of the current PU's but a complete freeze is out of the question due to the performance variances (i.e. Ferrari being behind).

https://t.co/F9V4Vi0jUV?amp=1

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a34329585/mercedes-f1s-positive-covid-19-tests-keep-hamilton-bottas-on-virtual-lockdown/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=100920&utm_campaign=nl21746555&utm_term=AUT_Autoweek_Racing_Daily_Newsletter_Subscribers
 

some Mercedes team members tested positive 

[wood 11103]

1 hour ago, PittsburghTiger said:

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a34329585/mercedes-f1s-positive-covid-19-tests-keep-hamilton-bottas-on-virtual-lockdown/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=100920&utm_campaign=nl21746555&utm_term=AUT_Autoweek_Racing_Daily_Newsletter_Subscribers
 

some Mercedes team members tested positive 

Yeah, I doubt this is related to the positive test results, but who knows ... we've been wondering why Lewis has a mask with an exhalation valve, as that basically eliminates a mask's ability to protect others. I wonder if this is common within the team and within the paddock. There are probably others using them, but the only one I've seen is Lewis.

[TonyTexas 10478]

Hulk subbing for ill Stroll this weekend 

[ChickenSandwich 9797]

RP should have filled the tank, slapped on some Hard tires and let Hulk have a 20 min practice session. Come in. Swap for softs and give it a go. 4 laps was not ideal 

[elfenix 34167]

Vettel's dad rocking the Spurs cap in the paddock during FP2

[Huckleberry 32684]

I so badly want to see Verstappen and Leclerc on the same team in a good car.

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

Watching qualifying before the race.

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

Hopefully Hulk gets better in the race than Q1 

Russell doesn't get through either. I hope Williams gets better next year.

Edited October 11, 2020 by PittsburghTiger

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

Vettel gets knocked out by LeClerc in Q2.

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

Here we go for the start. Max in 3rd. He's got nothing to lose. Go for it!

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

This weather, 15C/59F, is not good for F1 cars/tires.

Edited October 11, 2020 by PittsburghTiger

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

Bottas is out. Lost battery power it seems. Lap 19.

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

28 to go. Hamilton and Max are 60+ seconds in front of 3rd-place Danny Ric.

[TonyTexas 10478]

Safety car makes race a little more interesting 

[ConferenceRoom 6123]

Albon needs to go.

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

Tried to post this earlier before surly died.

Another ridiculous Masi-special Safety Car.

Ruined some midfield battles and the Ric/Perez battle on their used tires (I was rooting for Ric, but still).

Really cool moment with Lewis and Mick. One more!

[texas08 1599]

Yeah, Perez Ricciardo would’ve been epic those last two laps if no safety car...boo!

[elfenix 34167]

Another textbook drive by Hamilton, good job by Verstappen to grab the fastest lap (6/1000ths!), great job by Hulk to grab some points. Red Bull guys giving Danny Ric a hand is cool.

Felt like VSC could have been used like they did for the prior incident.

Really great moment with Mick

[Goofyboy 3156]

Hamilton cannot be beat when he or the team avoids mistakes. One more race to win and the record is his alone.

Hamilton and Max being 60 seconds a head and Albon no where to be seen is a problem. No reason for Albon to not be consistently 3rd or 4th.

[pops 6972]

9 hours ago, ConferenceRoom said:

Albon needs to go.

He's horrible

[texas08 1599]

Perez in that red bull would be fun

[elfenix 34167]

3 of the 4 seats in RBR/AT are set. Max is a lock and I feel like Gasly has been improving enough to keep that seat. I would assume Kvyat is out because he's not getting better and afaik doesn't have a contract for next year. Albon should probably go back to the junior team to get more work in. He's not lighting the world on fire like Max did but he's also gotten fucked by messing with Hamilton at the wrong time.

How did Alonso's test ert "filming" day go?

[wood 11103]

2 hours ago, elfenix said:

How did Alonso's test ert "filming" day go?

Dunno how it went on the track time-wise, but he seems pretty happy with it. Good video here. More running tomorrow, I think. He also dropped a hint about a helmet change for 2021 there at the end...

 

Edited October 13, 2020 by wood

[faps 806]

On 10/12/2020 at 12:00 PM, texas08 said:

Perez in that red bull would be fun

Or Hulk. Either way a real shame both of them are out.

[wood 11103]

https://www.instagram.com/stories/fernandoalo_oficial/2419173958237341203/

https://www.instagram.com/stories/renaultf1team/2418879242808224341/

https://www.renaultsport.com/alonso-makes-renault-dp-world-f1-team-debut.html?r=331

[ConferenceRoom 6123]

Albon needs to give way to the next talent that won’t cry their way around the track. He’s weak.

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

The current rumor is Hulk, but who knows.

[ChickenSandwich 9797]

I assumed Perez was the better driver than Hulk.  Hulk just cheaper or maybe a lesser threat to Max?

[Hawndoh 2379]

I'd take Perez over Hulk personally.

[wood 11103]

5 hours ago, Hawndoh said:

I'd take Perez over Hulk personally.

Me, too.

6 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

I assumed Perez was the better driver than Hulk.  Hulk just cheaper or maybe a lesser threat to Max?

Nationality might have something to do with it. I guess?

I can't imagine Hulk being much cheaper, if at all, than Perez. Perez has big backing (Carlos Slim big).

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

On 10/13/2020 at 2:54 PM, wood said:

Dunno how it went on the track time-wise, but he seems pretty happy with it. Good video here. More running tomorrow, I think. He also dropped a hint about a helmet change for 2021 there at the end...

 

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a34361969/fernandos-back-alonso-drives-in-filming-day-for-renault-ahead-of-2021-return-to-f1/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=101320&utm_campaign=nl21778691&utm_term=AUT_Autoweek_Racing_Daily_Newsletter_Subscribers

 

Autoweek had a little story about it as well.

[PittsburghTiger 6136]

https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a34402898/lewis-hamilton-concerned-new-f1-circuit-in-rio-would-mean-cutting-down-trees/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=101820&utm_campaign=nl21829464&utm_term=AUT_Autoweek_Weekend_Racing_Wrapup_Newsletter_Subscribers

 

Six-time Formula 1 champion Lewis Hamilton is concerned that organizers of a proposed new race circuit in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, are not seeing the forest from the trees.

A group hoping to take the Brazilian Grand Prix away from traditional stop Interlagos has unveiled plans for a Rio Motorpark circuit to be constructed in the Camboata Forest. The layout would reportedly call for the removal of thousands of trees.

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

They also destroyed another circuit (Jacarepaguá, that formerly hosted F1) while building the Olympic park for Rio 2016, so they don’t have the best track record (pun intended?).

[52-80 19066]

a lot of cognitive dissonance in formula 1.

 

i mean yes its great you care about the rainforest.  but also you literally jet around the globe with an entire army of staff and heavy equipment to race cars in russia, china, and abu dhabi....

 

half of you live in the glitziest place on earth, but mostly to skirt taxes in your home jurisdiction

 

just dispense with the bullshit

Edited October 20, 2020 by 52-80

[utee94 15742]

4 hours ago, 52-80 said:

a lot of cognitive dissonance in formula 1.

 

i mean yes its great you care about the rainforest.  but also you literally jet around the globe with an entire army of staff and heavy equipment to race cars in russia, china, and abu dhabi....

 

half of you live in the glitziest place on earth, but mostly to skirt taxes in your home jurisdiction

 

just dispense with the bullshit

Yeah, F1 is possibly the least environmentally sensitive major sport in the world.

Aside from what you already stated, just think about all those tires that they manufacture, haul around, use for 10-20 laps, and then dispose of.  L

[wood 11103]

Both Haas drivers ... OUT. Bout time. Perez and Mick incoming?

 

And re: Lance Stroll, has this been the protocol all along - testing on Tuesday and then Sunday, with no isolation between tests? If so ... holy crap.

Other sports are doing daily testing and still having problems. I've been wondering how F1 thinks just testing at the start of the weekend is going to be effective. A person can be infected for 5 days or more before the test will even detect the virus, and longer than that before showing symptoms. The Stroll case is a perfect example. If he had symptoms already on Saturday morning, then he was already infected well before he arrived and got the initial screening, which turned out negative. 

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Stroll underwent a COVID-19 test on the Tuesday ahead of the Eifel Grand Prix, meaning he could enter the paddock on Thursday and Friday before pulling out of the race weekend on Saturday.
It led to questions over a potential loophole in the FIA's protocols that only require paddock personnel to undergo testing every five days - around the same time of COVID-19's incubation period before symptoms can start to show.
But Masi stressed the onus of getting tested when showing symptoms lay entirely on the competitors, and that nothing had been reported to the FIA since Stroll's negative test on the Tuesday.
"No, we don't feel there is any loophole," said Masi. "The requirement for Lance, or any other attendee on that matter, there are the various time requirements to test prior to entering the paddock, and then the follow up testing from that point.
"Based on the Tuesday test, his next test would have been Sunday morning to fulfil the requirements of the FIA COVID protocol. So that one is quite simple.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia-says-stroll-illness-hasnt-exposed-covid-testing-loophole/4894709/?ic_source=home-page-widget&ic_medium=widget&ic_campaign=widget-6

If he was tested on Tuesday and then Thursday or Friday upon entry, that's only a 2 or 3 day gap between tests. The way I've understood it, that's not enough. A person could easily have the virus and would likely test negative both times in such a scenario. The way I understand it, if you're getting tested prior to entering the paddock on Thursday, in order to be considered "covid-free" you'd also need a negative test 5 days prior to that, and isolation between tests. For example, in order for someone to enter the bubble on Thursday they'd need to test negative on the prior Saturday, then isolate until Thursday and test negative again in order to be considered truly covid-negative.

Edited October 22, 2020 by wood

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

I think Mazepin ends up somewhere because of the boatloads of cash that comes with him.

Maybe Haas, maybe Williams.

KMag should go to Indy, that would suit him well I think.