The Who - New Songs

[Rip76 5022]

Wow.  Sounds straight out of the “Who Are You,” period.  
Good stuff.  Had to be some old leftover music, no?

 

 

[Deej 77813]

Is it really The Who, though? Half the original lineup is dead.

[Rip76 5022]

True. 
But let’s be honest.  Pete is The Who.

[Al_4_ISU 12623]

On 12/14/2019 at 4:12 PM, Rip76 said:

True. 
But let’s be honest.  Pete is The Who.

I gotta disagree 1000%.  Of all the classic rock era heavy hitters, The Who were probably the one with the least replaceable individual members.  Zeppelin would be damn close, but I give The Who the nod as absolutely no one in hard rock sounded like Entwistle.  John Paul Jones is excellent, but not quite as distinct.

I refuse to listen to any of the newer Who stuff, even if the consensus seems to be that there's some pretty good stuff here.  It's just Pete, Roger, and some studio guys.  It is not The Who.

[Dennis Taylor 19344]

1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I gotta disagree 1000%.  Of all the classic rock era heavy hitters, The Who were probably the one with the least replaceable individual members.  Zeppelin would be damn close, but I give The Who the nod as absolutely no one in hard rock sounded like Entwistle.  John Paul Jones is excellent, but not quite as distinct.

I refuse to listen to any of the newer Who stuff, even if the consensus seems to be that there's some pretty good stuff here.  It's just Pete, Roger, and some studio guys.  It is not The Who.

well there is the whole Keith Moon/ John Bonham thing

[Al_4_ISU 12623]

1 minute ago, Dennis Taylor said:

well there is the whole Keith Moon/ John Bonham thing

What do you mean?  I think they're both immediately recognizable, and absolutely essential to their bands' sound.

[Dennis Taylor 19344]

Just now, Al_4_ISU said:

What do you mean?  I think they're both immediately recognizable, and absolutely essential to their bands' sound.

the death of one meant the end of the band so I guess he was  not very replaceable 

[Al_4_ISU 12623]

1 minute ago, Dennis Taylor said:

the death of one meant the end of the band so I guess he was  not very replaceable 

Just because The Who replaced Keith Moon in a physical sense doesn't mean he was actually replaceable.  The Who died when he did, even if the rest of them couldn't figure it out.

[Dennis Taylor 19344]

10 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Just because The Who replaced Keith Moon in a physical sense doesn't mean he was actually replaceable.  The Who died when he did, even if the rest of them couldn't figure it out.

i guess so...i've just never personally put them in a class with Zeppelin or Sabbath   

Edited December 17, 2019 by Dennis Taylor

[Deej 77813]

1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

John Paul Jones is excellent, but not quite as distinct.

JPJ's versatility can not be matched. Guy did everything. 

[Al_4_ISU 12623]

26 minutes ago, Deej said:

JPJ's versatility can not be matched. Guy did everything. 

No doubt on that.  One of the greatest musicians in rock.

[Guest Lobo]

The Who released 5 albums after Moon died.  Zeppelin didn't release any (I mean, Coda came out but it was stuff that had been recorded several years before with Bonzo).  I'd have to argue that Bonham was more critical to the "Sound" of Zeppelin than Keith was to the Who.  I'm not talking about raucous drum solos done shitfaced that rocked live (they both had those in spades).  The studio work and musicianship of Bonham was a step above.  He layered on things in his drumming that enhanced the album sound ten-fold.  

Anyway, still love the Who.  But just like the Stones, they should just quit bothering with new material.  Save your strength for extra nights on tour. 

[LFS 58]

it's a put on.

LZ realized they'd not be LZ w/o JB and wisely stopped making new music. PT on the other hand...

 

 

[Buzzrock 15136]

JPJ's versatility can not be matched. Guy did everything. 

Yeah I was just thinking about all those great Entwistle keyboard solos. Oh wait there aren’t any.

[Guest Lobo]

Entwistle was way too drunk to play keyboards.  JPJ however played a dozen instruments with virtuoso-like proficiency.  He was also something of a technical/recording production junkie like Jimmy Page (though not in Jimmy's same league).  It's apples and oranges.  Zeppelin had it's beautiful moment in the sun, and the Who has soldiered on.  They're still a good live act, but nothing they've put out in the studio in the last 25+ years was remotely necessary.  Same for the Rolling Stones.