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RHCP: Frusciante back, Klinghoffer gone


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Outside of festivals, do they even have any relevance left? I suppose they'll keep making new music, but they should be well into their annual "Play the Hits" tour/cash grab stage for diehards only.

I dug Californication when I was in middle school as their "we're finally off drugs, so here's a bunch of tortured songs about how shitty drugs made our lives" album. Everything since has been about a milquetoast, safe, and generic as it gets from dudes who were probably always better performers than musicians anyway.

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1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

dudes who were probably always better performers than musicians anyway.

I think it's almost the opposite . . . Flea is a monster, Chad Smith is plenty talented, and whatever heroin addict they have on guitar has always been fantastic (and I don't really like Frusciante, but yeah, he can play).  They just don't write many good songs, and if Kiedis is doing anything but rap the whole thing goes down the tubes.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

I think it's almost the opposite . . . Flea is a monster, Chad Smith is plenty talented, and whatever heroin addict they have on guitar has always been fantastic (and I don't really like Frusciante, but yeah, he can play).  They just don't write many good songs, and if Kiedis is doing anything but rap the whole thing goes down the tubes.

Yeah, I should have specified that comment to Kiedis.  Smith and Flea's names always pop up in best drummer/bass conversations, and Frusciante was there when they were huge, so maybe that will pull on some people's nostalgia.  But bands tend to go as their lead singer, and ain't no one wants to hear another barely comprehensible rap/talking song with a catchy, but empty, chorus over the top.

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24 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I think it's almost the opposite . . . Flea is a monster, Chad Smith is plenty talented, and whatever heroin addict they have on guitar has always been fantastic (and I don't really like Frusciante, but yeah, he can play).  They just don't write many good songs, and if Kiedis is doing anything but rap the whole thing goes down the tubes.

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9 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Blood Sugar Sex Majic or however they spelled it, was a soundtrack of my youth album.  Really enjoyed it.  There were some great songs there.

But that was peak RHCPs as far as I'm concerned.  Been downhill since.

 

*Magik.  And for the 5 or so years preceding that were an original, if not innovative sound.  

I am an absolute fool for a rhythm section of the caliber of Michael and Chad, especially Flea, so I forgive their later "transgressions."  The Adventures of Rain Dance Maggie was pretty solid in the Blood Sugar vein.

It's kind of funny, I'm quite unmusical so this may be inapt to those who are, but RHCP guitar has always to me been kind of like bass in other bands, sort of fills in the background.

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2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

*Magik.  And for the 5 or so years preceding that were an original, if not innovative sound.  

I am an absolute fool for a rhythm section of the caliber of Michael and Chad, especially Flea, so I forgive their later "transgressions."  The Adventures of Rain Dance Maggie was pretty solid in the Blood Sugar vein.

I don't disagree with this take.  Compared to a lot of other stuff going on in the 80s, early RHCP was certainly distinct and I appreciated that.

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They were one of my favorites in high school and college, and I have definitely outgrown Anthony Kiedis.  I bailed when Frusciante left.  I listened to the post-Frusciante albums a time or two, but found it all boring as hell.

By The Way holds up very well.  It was the most heavily involved Frusciante was in the songwriting, I think.  Stadium Arcadium has some obnoxiously dumb songs (Dani California), but Frusciante just tears shit up all over that one.  Plus it was a heavy part of my collective friend group's summer of 2006, a particularly wild time in our lives, so it always breaks back great memories.

I saw them live twice.  One was incredible, and the other completely sucked.

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Agree with JJ and others about Flea & Smith.  They are a fantastic duo that made this band work.  The band's ability to have a plug-and-play attitude towards guitarists shows how great those two are.

Keidis is someone who's musical legacy would have greatly benefited from joining the 27 club.

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7 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Agree with JJ and others about Flea & Smith.  They are a fantastic duo that made this band work.  The band's ability to have a plug-and-play attitude towards guitarists shows how great those two are.

Keidis is someone who's musical legacy would have greatly benefited from joining the 27 club.

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Also, I'm not sure the timing lines up quite right, but it's close.  I became aware of RHCP and the Beastie Boys at about the same time.  And they were vaguely similar as white dudes dabbling in black genres with a kind of punk sensibility.

I saw the Beasties on the Get Off My Dick tour.

Who would have figured their relative trajectories.

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On 12/15/2019 at 11:58 PM, jimmyjazz said:

Lulz.  That band hasn't been worth a shit in over 25 years and Frusciante is only a tangential part of their "quality".  (Anthony Kiedis trying to sing actual notes is antithetical to any quality they might possess.)

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2 hours ago, Bogeywon said:

Flea is awesome but this band stinks 

Yeah, they totally suck.


That explains them selling 120 million albums and selling their catalog for 140 million dollars. Because they're terrible.  I'm sure that you've got a favorite band that nobody's ever heard of that's much better

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1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

Yeah, they totally suck.


That explains them selling 120 million albums and selling their catalog for 140 million dollars. Because they're terrible.  I'm sure that you've got a favorite band that nobody's ever heard of that's much better

Sorry I don’t like them. I like bands that have sold millions of albums people don’t love or like, like Nirvana for one. Or oasis both in the top part of my favorite bands. But when someone tells me they think they stink I don’t care I get it. 

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BSSM is a top tier album.  It still holds up today.

Then they decided they loved money more than growing as musicians and wrote the same hit single two to three times an album for the next 30 years.  

It worked out for them wonderfully.

 

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On 7/12/2024 at 9:47 PM, Bogeywon said:

Sorry I don’t like them. I like bands that have sold millions of albums people don’t love or like, like Nirvana for one. Or oasis both in the top part of my favorite bands. But when someone tells me they think they stink I don’t care I get it. 

 

On 7/12/2024 at 10:27 PM, Gil Bang said:

english motherfucker, do you speak it?

Seems really clear, what he's saying...

Equating success as a band (money/records sold etc) to being a "good" band is regarded.

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On 7/13/2024 at 4:31 PM, CooterBrown said:

BSSM is a top tier album.  It still holds up today.

Then they decided they loved money more than growing as musicians and wrote the same hit single two to three times an album for the next 30 years.  

It worked out for them wonderfully.

 

Hey, not fair. They ripped off Tom Petty for one of their hits. 

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A guitarist who has played with Pearl Jam and the Red Hot Chili Peppers and was involved in fatal collision in Alhambra in March pleaded not guilty Thursday to a vehicular manslaughter charge.

On March 18, the victim, Israel Sanchez, was heading to the grocery store and walking in a protected crosswalk at Main Street and Meridian Avenue when he was struck by an SUV driven by Josh Klinghoffer, officials said. The man fell to the ground and was dragged a few feet until the vehicle came to a stop, according to video footage provided by the family’s attorney.

Sanchez later died in a hospital.

Klinghoffer remained at the scene and was not detained.

Klinghoffer pleaded not guilty on Thursday to a misdemeanor charge of of vehicular manslaughter without gross negligence. His attorney did not respond to request for comment Thursday.

A wrongful death lawsuit filed in July by the victim’s family alleges that Klinghoffer was on his phone while driving the SUV, and that he did not not have a license plate on his SUV at the time of the crash.

His attorney in the civil case, Andrew B. Brettler, said in July that after the crash, “Josh immediately pulled over, stopped the vehicle, called 911, and waited until police and the ambulance arrived.”

 

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On 7/12/2024 at 6:03 PM, Bogeywon said:

Flea is awesome but this band stinks 

Is this where I mention again that one night when I went to play soccer at a Santa Monica house with the usual suspects, Woody Harrelson & Steve “Jonesy” Jones (Sex Pistols’ guitarist), I walked into the famous home owner’s kitchen before we started and there was a shorter bald guy who introduced himself as “Flea”.

This guy was a Fairfax High School alum who happened to play bass for an LA band called “The Red shot Chili Peppers” 🌶️, though he didn’t divulge that part.

He ended up being on my team and he was a decent athlete, but he didn’t look up when he dribbled the ball, so he usually ended up getting the ball stolen. 

Nice guy though. He never played again, but I think that his work often took him out of town.

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On 7/12/2024 at 6:03 PM, Bogeywon said:

Flea is awesome but this band stinks 

 

On 7/12/2024 at 10:47 PM, Bogeywon said:

Or oasis

 

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On 7/13/2024 at 5:31 PM, CooterBrown said:

BSSM is a top tier album.  It still holds up today.

 

 

 

It's definitely a strong album, but Mother's Milk will always be the GOAT for me when it comes to the Peppers.

 

Everything after One Hot Minute has just been terrible though, that much can't be denied. And they are insanely culpable in the over compression epidemic of the past 20 years

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On 9/26/2024 at 5:57 PM, Gil Bang said:

A guitarist who has played with Pearl Jam and the Red Hot Chili Peppers and was involved in fatal collision in Alhambra in March pleaded not guilty Thursday to a vehicular manslaughter charge.

On March 18, the victim, Israel Sanchez, was heading to the grocery store and walking in a protected crosswalk at Main Street and Meridian Avenue when he was struck by an SUV driven by Josh Klinghoffer, officials said. The man fell to the ground and was dragged a few feet until the vehicle came to a stop, according to video footage provided by the family’s attorney.

Sanchez later died in a hospital.

Klinghoffer remained at the scene and was not detained.

Klinghoffer pleaded not guilty on Thursday to a misdemeanor charge of of vehicular manslaughter without gross negligence. His attorney did not respond to request for comment Thursday.

A wrongful death lawsuit filed in July by the victim’s family alleges that Klinghoffer was on his phone while driving the SUV, and that he did not not have a license plate on his SUV at the time of the crash.

His attorney in the civil case, Andrew B. Brettler, said in July that after the crash, “Josh immediately pulled over, stopped the vehicle, called 911, and waited until police and the ambulance arrived.”

 

He was on stage with PJ last night.

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saw the footage of that a while back. he was definitely on his phone or something and just plowed over a dude. don't know what it is about klinghoffer but he just looks like a dude that would steal your stereo and pawn it for drugs. have never liked him. 

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