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TwiceHorn
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Agreed on those slightly excusing Ash, but then there's this.

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Guess it's time to start this thread... CHRIS ASH RESPONSIBLE FOR MOVE TO RUGBY TACKLING  (Ohio State) https://www.elevenwarriors.com/comments_load/62319/anon/0/nojs   Urban Meyer,

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That's the play I was referencing above.  Got the players mixed up. This is a Sky 4 coverage.  Green is playing Match 1-2.  He is supposed to top #1 until #2 runs something vertical and out.  He

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The Big 12 continues to be slightly ahead of every other conference in offense. While the Pac 12 was getting bitch slapped by the ancient Mike Leach Air Raid, and Mississippi State is now doing the same in the SEC, the Big 12 has advanced past basic Air Raid concepts. 

Trying to compete against the very advanced offenses of the Big 12 is a giant kick in the nuts.  Every defensive coordinator that comes into this league has to get bitch slapped repeatedly until the good ones can figure out how to patch together a scheme to keep the scoreboard under 40.  Orlando had three years and still hadn't figured it out. Patterson is well adjusted, having been in the league so long. Ash could have the same multi-year learning curve ahead of him.  Of course, he won't get three years to figure it out. He pretty much has to figure it out now or he and Tom will be gone.

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The onside kick, muffed punt, pick in our end, Thompson getting hurt, and just general average starting field possession all impacted the defense.

The interceptions and defense in OT are encouraging.

But 56 points is terrible no matter how you slice it.  The 3rd down defense was atrocious.  Our strategy to attack trips is stupid imo.  Hopefully Ash is a guy who will adjust because offenses are going to look about like this in probably 5 of our 8 remaining games.

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Patterson gets pantsed by Texas Tech to the tune of 55+ every once in a while. The biggest issue was tackling. The white jerseys were present on a large percentage of plays, but they yearns after contact statistic has to be absolutely out of whack. 
 

Tech always gets their yards, especially at home. The had so many opportunities to create no gain plays or stop the bleeding if our players had been able to hold onto the really carrier.

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16 minutes ago, Coach pop a bitch said:

Not even close orlano in OT would have said "we have come to far to win. Send in an all out blitz" 

Why send all out when the DBs are playing so far off anyway...also it’s not like TT scores a lot of points or anything or we tackled really really well

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8 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

Why send all out when the DBs are playing so far off anyway...also it’s not like TT scores a lot of points or anything or we tackled really really well

Obviously you know nothing of defensive football. Chris ash wants to get the ball back to the offense as soon as possible so he makes his defense give up TD's

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15 minutes ago, USNALonghorn said:

Patterson gets pantsed by Texas Tech to the tune of 55+ every once in a while. The biggest issue was tackling. The white jerseys were present on a large percentage of plays, but they yearns after contact statistic has to be absolutely out of whack. 
 

Don't yearns usually happen before contact??  😁

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The defense missed 29 tackles against Tech. That's pitiful, the majority of these guys playing on the defense are experienced players. On Tech's 2nd TD BJ Foster  completely whiffed and he was threatening to leave the program over playing time? Hell on that 75 yard TD run by Thompson 3 different players whiffed.

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1 minute ago, USNALonghorn said:

It can be emphasized in practice, much like when Greg Robinson took over in 2013.

True but it was by far our number one problem last year and if the defensive coordinator and head coach were unable to identify that and fix it between the end of last football season and this game, I don’t think they can do it during game week planning.

that’s not even to discuss the fact that some of the guys might not even be capable vis-à-vis the physical domination of Techs wide receivers today.

I hope it isn’t who we are, but it sure defined us today.

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1 minute ago, The Earl of Texas said:

True but it was by far our number one problem last year and if the defensive coordinator and head coach were unable to identify that and fix it between the end of last football season and this game, I don’t think they can do it during game week planning.

Time allocated to practicing the basics is on Ash. If he values sounds tackling like Urban Meyer says he does, maybe we’ll get it to a respectable level. 

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26 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

The announcers mentioned the TTU coaches figured out Ash's defense by watching 2 year old videos of Rutgers

Well they barely had 150 yards at HT, and almost turned it over 3 times. The offense and STs fucked up the 3Q and most of the 4Q when Tech got going. The tackling was abysmal and needs to get much better.

Thompson popped a big run, and probably ended up helping Texas more than hurting, but neither Ezukanma, Carter, or Vasher got 100 yards, and it took Bowman 52 attempts to get his 325 yards. Being honest, Tech's top 3 WR are more consistent than Texas's top 3 WRs right now. Especially considering Black got hurt again on top of Smith and Whittington already being injured.

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The Big 12 continues to be slightly ahead of every other conference in offense. While the Pac 12 was getting bitch slapped by the ancient Mike Leach Air Raid, and Mississippi State is now doing the same in the SEC, the Big 12 has advanced past basic Air Raid concepts. 

Trying to compete against the very advanced offenses of the Big 12 is a giant kick in the nuts.  Every defensive coordinator that comes into this league has to get bitch slapped repeatedly until the good ones can figure out how to patch together a scheme to keep the scoreboard under 40.  Orlando had three years and still hadn't figured it out. Patterson is well adjusted, having been in the league so long. Ash could have the same multi-year learning curve ahead of him.  Of course, he won't get three years to figure it out. He pretty much has to figure it out now or he and Tom will be gone.

Some of this true, although a little hyperbolic, but also why I don’t understand why Herman took the risk of bringing in someone not accustomed to the Big 12. What’s so hard about nabbing ISU’s or Baylor’s DCs? Were they unobtainable?

 

Get someone well versed in a system that is proven to work in this league.

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