Craps for beginners:

[Wally Pryor 5388]

On 5/28/2019 at 9:46 PM, Trey3216 said:

Yep.  Casino Royals was my Vegas honey hole.   Such a piece of shit casino, but you could sit at the craps table with a $200 bankroll and play for 3 days straight if you can stay up that long.  

 

Not to mention, that on top of free drinks while playing you can buy $1 Michelob regular all day everyday.   My go to when I’m walking up and down the strip

CR may be a shit hole but it leaves every other Vegas casino in the dust when it comes to cocktail service.  You never go dry there - in fact, you're likely to have one in your hand, have a full one tucked under the table and see a cocktail waitress asking about another.  That cycle repeats itself over and over.   Granted, the waitresses aren't anything to look at but when it comes to taking care of your beverage needs that place is unsurpassed. 

[Trey3216 15450]

5 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said:

CR may be a shit hole but it leaves every other Vegas casino in the dust when it comes to cocktail service.  You never go dry there - in fact, you're likely to have one in your hand, have a full one tucked under the table and see a cocktail waitress asking about another.  That cycle repeats itself over and over.   Granted, the waitresses aren't anything to look at but when it comes to taking care of your beverage needs that place is unsurpassed. 

Yep.  It's super easy to get extraordinarily over-served there.  I like it.  

[McFly 606]

Pure numbers game for the cocktails. She isn’t serving high rollers that will drop big tips. Got to hustle to get the tips up. 

[chikin23 384]

Leaving Vegas up 500 on craps. Method worked for me pretty well. Would've been more but got impatient with the nickel and dime stuff a few times.

Had a good run with roulette as well. Shaggy had a post years ago about playing the 1st 12 and doubling up every time you didnt hit. Worked well for me too all the times I played except once. Got up 350ish and then made some stupid bets and wiped myself out.

[Aldo Raine 122]

Enjoyed a plus $500 session at the D in Vegas this afternoon. When you give the dealers a glance and they know exactly what you want to bet....there’s nothing quite like it. Brown liquor drinks flowing helps, too.

[Guest]

Inn of the Mountain Goats in Ruidoso...3x/4x/5x odds

go $500 into pocket throughout the day. Get down to $40 for session.  Stage a furious comeback and cash out with $530.

3 fucking free lemonades.  No booze on casino floor.  They have a badass taproom, but you can't play craps( or any other game) while you're drinking.  I love both activities and struggle mightily with the notion that New Mexico gaming laws are saving me from myself.

Oh well... played craps and enjoyed the come-back.

[DallasHorn26 587]

After my last couple of runs, Ive seen nothing but cold tables, so I've been toying with the dark side on the app.

For you that do that, do you place any other bets besides the don't pass line with odds?

I'm going to Shreveport next weekend and looking to change up my play method some. I know I'm not gonna get rich, but I'd like to lengthen my time at the table and possibly walk out with a little more cash then I go in with.

[Enchubben 5598]

On 8/16/2019 at 8:08 AM, DallasHorn26 said:

After my last couple of runs, Ive seen nothing but cold tables, so I've been toying with the dark side on the app.

For you that do that, do you place any other bets besides the don't pass line with odds?

I'm going to Shreveport next weekend and looking to change up my play method some. I know I'm not gonna get rich, but I'd like to lengthen my time at the table and possibly walk out with a little more cash then I go in with.

Occasionally I’ll play $100 don’t pass, with a nickel on 12 on the come out.  If it hits 4/10 as point I will play max odds and hedge with a quarter on the hard 4/10.

Edited August 24, 2019 by Enchubben

[RPM 26559]

This guy seems to have a pretty good system for when you have the dice. The video is long and boring, but tl/dr is cover the opening roll with a $1 craps bet. After you make point cover the 4-10 for 3 throws. If you hit on one of those, increase your bet on the 4-10 until you make 3 rolls the pull your bets. Might give this a try vs the random shit I usually bet. It's a slow process, but a steady one.

 

[DallasHorn26 587]

I definitely prefer playing in Shreveport compared to Sucklahoma. No ante, 100x odds and more $5 tables. It was a little choppy this weekend. I usually only play with $200-$300 a session each time and primarily do HG method. I do like to roll, so I'll play the pass line when I'm rolling and adjust my odds depending on the point. We ventured over to Margaritiaville and it is the nicest casino in Shreveport-Bossier in my opinion. I had a table to myself for a little bit and doubled my money  for that session. I usually stay away from the middle of the table, but Maragaritaville had a hot roller bonus instead of the all tall small.  I played it some and saw it hit a few times during the night. Every few rollers seemed to hit 2-3 of the number combos which pays 5-1 for 2 combos and 10-1 for 3 combos. I saw it get to 5 combos, but I wasn't on it at the time it hit, but one guy at the table and $50 on it and took $2500 in winnings when it hit. 

[RPM 26559]

So far this strategy works, but only if you or someone you trust is throwing. Playing it with a random shooter is just asking to take your money.

[BigDHornfan 6625]

Tried a little different strategy the last few days on the phone app and think I will give it a try the next time I am in Shreveport.

Start with a $200 bankroll on a $5 table.  Throw $6 on 6 & 8 with $5 on the field.  When the field hits, move the winnings from that to either the 5 or the 9 depending on what the point is.  And then when a couple of numbers hit, move the winnings from that to the 4 & 10 and get every number covered.  And then alternate pressing and collecting on the inside numbers.  

[The People’s Elbow 707]

So, if the you roll the point and the game concludes, do you typically takedown your bets and wait for the new point? 

[DallasHorn26 587]

So, if the you roll the point and the game concludes, do you typically takedown your bets and wait for the new point? 

If you have place bets running they are automatically turned off on the come out roll until a new point is established. You can ask the dealers to leave them on, but it's not typical to do so.

[henrygandorf 29218]

On 9/17/2019 at 10:33 PM, The People’s Elbow said:

So, if the you roll the point and the game concludes, do you typically takedown your bets and wait for the new point? 

is this a general question, or based on one of the systems someone on here recommended?

[The People’s Elbow 707]

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

is this a general question, or based on one of the systems someone on here recommended?

Just a general question. I haven’t played in a long time and am in Vegas this weekend. Figured I’d just throw it out there. I’ll figure it out at the table soon enough. 

Edited September 21, 2019 by The People’s Elbow

[henrygandorf 29218]

16 minutes ago, The People’s Elbow said:

Just a general question. 

typically, as a general rule, no.  the object for any craps roller is to find a hot roll, which hits a bunch of numbers and also several points.  so any of your non-pass-line bets (come, place) you try to leave out there and collect/press so that you make your money work for you.  hitting a point is a good time to catch your breath and reassess, and your place bets are off on the come out roll.

your come bets are working on the come out, but only the bets, not the odds.  if a 7 comes out while trying to establish a new point, they'll return your odds and take your bet.  back when i used to be a come bettor, this was a bummer, because you work so hard to get those out there, and they all come crashing down at a time where most of the table is clapping.

as far as rules, you are able to take your place bets down after a point is hit (or any time, really), but your come bets are stuck out there (you can take down or adjust your odds only), just as your pass line bet is stuck out there during a roll, but you can always take down or adjust your pass line odds.

hope this helped.

[shakahorn 1655]

I don't know if I've ever seen anyone take their place bets down after a point hits, although as HG points out, it is allowed.

More often, the dealer almost always calls out "place bets off unless you call working" or something similar, and some drunken dude who looks a lot like me will yell out "working" in which case your place bet is live on the come out.

I don't know if you can call "working" on your come bet odds.  Never seen it, and never been both drunk enough to call it and lucid enough to think of calling it.

[Iceman 2956]

Yes you can call them working.

[Buzzrock 15115]

What’s the best craps app for iPhone?

[Incredulity 11859]

4 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

What’s the best craps app for iPhone?

Every electronic crap game or app I have ever played is either always cold, or always hot.  Guess its hard to write an algo that reflects real world dice rolls.

Edited December 23, 2019 by Incredulity

[Wally Pryor 5388]

On 6/20/2019 at 3:21 PM, Trey3216 said:

Yep.  It's super easy to get extraordinarily over-served there.  I like it.  

Better plan your trip sooner rather than later.  Sounds like a demo may be on the horizon with a Ritz taking its place. 

[Trey3216 15450]

2 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said:

Better plan your trip sooner rather than later.  Sounds like a demo may be on the horizon with a Ritz taking its place. 

[Wally Pryor 5388]

Will take 2 to 3 months just to de-contaminate the site.  One month for the hot dog stand alone.   

[High Plains Drifter 11160]

On 12/23/2019 at 7:15 AM, Buzzrock said:

What’s the best craps app for iPhone?

 

On 12/23/2019 at 11:19 AM, Incredulity said:

Every electronic crap game or app I have ever played is either always cold, or always hot.  Guess its hard to write an algo that reflects real world dice rolls.

 

Yesterday at work I was playing at https://wizardofodds.com/play/craps/v2/

 

Don't know how well it works on a phone.

 

After three or four sessions playing various methods, not making the sucker bets (pass line with max odds, cum bets with max odds, 6 and 8 only) I'm up about 2K. Seems to swing wildly back and forth.

 

This site also has good explanations of the odds, all the different bets, etc for the noobs. Goes much faster than it would at a real craps table.

Edited January 13, 2020 by High Plains Drifter

[High Plains Drifter 11160]

On 12/23/2019 at 11:19 AM, Incredulity said:

Every electronic crap game or app I have ever played is either always cold, or always hot.  Guess its hard to write an algo that reflects real world dice rolls.

 

Most algos use "psuedo random number generation" which uses some sort of mathematical formula to find random numbers, which isn't truly "random". Like each dice roll is another digit in pi. But they should work fine for something like simulating dice rolls.

Much more difficult to generate true randomness. The algo would have to use some sort of external data source to generate the random number. Like the ambient air temp meausured to the 100th digit or something.

 

[ZB'Tejas 597]

Heading to Boston next week and planning on making it to the Encore for some craps. I went a few times last year and the place is nice but being the only game in town it's hard to find anything less than a $25 table. Might try a few different strategies see what happens. (More than likely just get really drunk and throw a bunch of money away)

[Zepol87 9308]

I'm in shit ass Iowa and don't know shit about how to at but I did watch at a table last night. One guy rolled 48 time and evidently everyone won a lot of money. Not me though

[Bartles 769]

Sometimes cashing in one huge rolls as a new player can be a curse. I know I just assumed those were pretty common after it happened at one of my first tables. Eventually I learned that you can go years without seeing a 50-60 minute roll, if you're like me an only play in Vegas one or two trips per year.

[pacman 7485]

I don't gamble much but have played this strategy for fun a few times. Pretty much break even all times except one trip, where two guys, who came together, rolled for a good 50 minutes between the two of them.

[capnamerca 581]

Absolutely torched last week. Lost about $850, only witnessed one good roll and it missed me completely (he hit probably 10 points,  but nothing else).

[Lurch 5949]

Always smart to pepper a bit of reality into this thread! I once dropped $1k in about 30 mins attempting to do HG method w $25 bets

 

[henrygandorf 29218]

(skip to 2:15)

 

[capnamerca 581]

On 3/10/2020 at 6:01 PM, henrygandorf said:

(skip to 2:15)

 

Alright, that was fucking funny ...

[Guest]

Colorado reopens table games...  LOlz and SMDH at the craps process.  "The dice will be sanitized... "   Well cool, because I was so fucking scared...

 

https://www.westword.com/news/colorado-casinos-allowed-to-offer-table-games-along-with-slots-11794764

[Guest]

Made it up to Denver metro and played last night at Blackhawk.  So they  squirt the sanitizer on your hands when you walk up, each dealer has a bottle. Before you shoot first roll only, squirt again. Between shooters, they wipe down the dice with sani-wipes.  When a player leaves, they wipe down the rail and area where player was.  Not sure about the effectiveness, but it damn sure was fun to play craps again.
Got down $720 last night.  Nickled and dimed them to death and had a good roll this morning. I only had the 12 to go on the all-tall-small bonus.  Leaving the joint up $210 for the trip. Oh yeah, 3 players max at each end of table. $10 tables whole time. 

Edited September 18, 2020 by slorch

[capnamerca 581]

On 9/18/2020 at 12:07 PM, slorch said:

Made it up to Denver metro and played last night at Blackhawk.  So they  squirt the sanitizer on your hands when you walk up, each dealer has a bottle. Before you shoot first roll only, squirt again. Between shooters, they wipe down the dice with sani-wipes.  When a player leaves, they wipe down the rail and area where player was.  Not sure about the effectiveness, but it damn sure was fun to play craps again.
Got down $720 last night.  Nickled and dimed them to death and had a good roll this morning. I only had the 12 to go on the all-tall-small bonus.  Leaving the joint up $210 for the trip. Oh yeah, 3 players max at each end of table. $10 tables whole time. 

You wrong-way playing son of a bitch ... sarcasm aside, I hard-core miss vegas. Not going back until this thing is more stable, but I'm stoked to read some stories of people rolling again.

[High Plains Drifter 11160]

 

I like having a don't player at the table. Gives me somebody to talk shit to.

 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

I like having a don't player at the table. Gives me somebody to talk shit to.

 

We have something in common.   There’s only one number I don’t want.  I generally STFU, but will root for people to go on a parade of numbers or complete their bonus bet(rare, but it happens.) There’s those rolls when the point is 6 or 8 and all the shooter hits is a billion 4 ‘s and 10’s.   That is fun.

[DallasHorn26 587]

I played at Choctaw a few times last month. Had a night where I kept rolling hardways (I don't bet on them, but a lot of people where) One guy was putting A hundred on the pass then 1k on odds and I kept hitting my point. Several times during my roll, he tossed me a black chip. I slowly build up my inside bets as I'm rolling. Ended up htting THE ATS too with a $5 bet on each on. Walked away up over $1500. Nights like that don't happen often, but that's what keeps me going. 

[Guest]

Colorado voted to allow single wagers larger than $100. Bad news is... table games are not open right now because of Cv-19.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/election-2020/colorado-voters-pass-amendment-77-giving-local-control-over-games-and-wager-limits-to-casino-towns#:~:text=Facebook-,Colorado voters pass Amendment 77%2C giving local control over games,wager limits to casino towns&text=DENVER – Colorado voters handed local,limits with Amendment 77's passage.

[McCroskey 1510]

Just booked a long weekend in Vegas for a few weeks from now.  Damnit I had forgotten about this thread, looking forward to going back despite only "6" people to a table now.

[Lurch 5949]

Played NyNy week before last and all they had open was a Crapless Craps table. Because it’s longer they were 10 handed

[Guest]

Crapless Craps is the rake in life...

[High Plains Drifter 11160]

 

never heard of crapless craps. Wizard of Odds tells me

 

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Overall the house edge on the pass bet in crapless craps is 373/6930 = 5.382%. Compare that to that of conventional craps at 1.414%

 

which sounds like another way the casios are nickeling and diming players to death.

 

 

 

[Enchubben 5598]

Love the crapless craps, hate the longer table though. Always full press the 2/12.

[henrygandorf 29218]

so a buddy of mine is in atl filming a tv show.  part of the show takes place in a casino in missouri.  there's a craps scene, and he's in it, and it's a total mess.

basically has the one of the main characters throwing a 3 and "crapping out" and everyone moaning, and the roll is over.  he pointed it out and called me.

we fixed it over the phone. 

[Incredulity 11859]

13 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

so a buddy of mine is in atl filming a tv show.  part of the show takes place in a casino in missouri.  there's a craps scene, and he's in it, and it's a total mess.

basically has the one of the main characters throwing a 3 and "crapping out" and everyone moaning, and the roll is over.  he pointed it out and called me.

we fixed it over the phone. 

It’s called “CRAPS”... duhhhhh

[henrygandorf 29218]

i also told him "one hand on the dice".  there aren't many non-sports things on tv shows and movies that piss me off more than a sloppy craps scene.

a technical advisor should come with the table rental.

[McCroskey 1510]

Vegas report:

Spent a few days playing at Caesars, Bellagio, and Aria.  Tables all allowed 8 players total, but unlike in prior years and with pretty hefty crowds in town I didn't have a problem ever finding my preferred spot at the end.  With maybe an exception for a few hours on Thursday and early Friday, I never saw anything lower than a $25 minimum table at Caesars.  Bellagio and Aria had $15 minimums every morning.

The action was mostly down for the first two days, and then yesterday afternoon happened.  I was down around $1,000 for the trip at this point and figured if I lost another $1,000 the afternoon/evening before I left, whatever, it was well within my budget for the trip.  My wife wanted to go shopping after lunch so I walked up to an empty $25 table at Caesars and cashed in $500, a little more than my typical $200-$300 limit per session.   I'd roll a point, crap out, roll a point, crap out, and finally on about my fourth roll had a point of 8 established, $25 on my odds, $30 on the 6, and only about $3 left in my stack.  Basically down to my last $80 bucks for this go-around and what happened next is why I love this game so much.

I proceeded to roll 3-4 points, hit various numbers and hard-ways along the way, and built my bankroll back up to about $700 or $800 before crapping out.  The table was now full at this point, and I hovered right around $800-$1000 in my stack for the next 3 shooters when the dice finally got back to my end of the table to a quiet gentleman standing in the "slot" just left of the stick man. 

The dude then goes on one of the best rolls I've ever seen or been a part of in my life.   One of my favorite plays as I've mentioned in the past on this thread is starting out rolls with $5 hard-ways, and either press or parlay them up each time they hit.  On the hard 8 alone I hit at $25 once, $100 twice, and then at $150 once.  I hit the hard six at $100 once and hit a hard ten at $100 twice.  By the end of the roll, I had over $7,000 in my stack which was by far more than I've ever won on a single roll.  I was next to shoot so figured what the hell, but crapped out within about 3 rolls and cashed in my chips for a little over $6,800.

I'm sure it's not much for the Surly 1%er's but that's a damn good weekend for me.