Dallas Cowboys 2020 Offseason Thread -- 25th Anniversary of Mediocrity

[TonyTexas 10508]

42 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I do. Why wouldn’t you? It depends on what significantly more means, but Washington is a dumpster fire. If you’re thinking about your career, and life after football, I’m not picking Washington over Dallas over a few mil 

Because the Dallas contract is the 2nd biggest WR, both in annual value and guarantee. Do you really think Washington offered significantly more?

[tx 3 putt 76874]

Trade dak to dolphins / sign brady. Brady with this OL / zeke / coop, shiiiiiiiit. And he brings extreme leadership to the huddle / film room  / locker room. He’s very very driven to win outside of NE 

draft qb - two years to train under Brady 

rack up Super Bowls - show me a loss 

Edited March 17, 2020 by tx 3 putt

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

I don’t buy this. 

Confirmed by several sources.... your choice.

[markstanco 12573]

3 hours ago, Newy25 said:

The draft is stacked at WR. It’s possible it’s the deepest draft at WR we have ever seen. 

If so, Jerrah will wait until the later rounds and get some spare. 

[C-Man 27196]

8 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

And another one 

 

 

Yours and Drew's definition for "late in the season" differs from mine. Those tweets were after the 10th game. After that, Dak (and the Cowboys) face-planted with three straight losses to New England, Buffalo and Chicago and the Cowboys went on to lose the division title.

[DougO 5243]

I'm a little surprised McCarthy didn't make a push to keep Cobb around, but maybe they already hated each other, too.

Would have been good to keep him another year, but letting him go is fine. They were lucky to get as many games out of him last season.

Edited March 17, 2020 by DougO

[DougO 5243]

Lance Lenoir big breakout season...in the bank.

[Radical Larry 28566]

Welp.

[C-Man 27196]

24 minutes ago, DougO said:

I'm a little surprised McCarthy didn't make a push to keep Cobb around, but maybe they already hated each other, too.

Would have been good to keep him another year, but letting him go is fine. They were lucky to get as many games out of him last season.

I would've loved to keep him too but you can't pay a #3 WR what he got from the Texans.

[tx 3 putt 76874]

Good thing it’s a deep draft 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

Safe to say we're going mostly defense this draft.

Lose Robert Quinn and Byron Jones

[DougO 5243]

15 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I would've loved to keep him too but you can't pay a #3 WR what he got from the Texans.

Texans may now have the most brittle WR corps in NFL history.

[DougO 5243]

Quinn money at this point in his career was insane. He wasn't going to fit in the next version of Cowboys defense long anyway.

[Newy25 7668]

16 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I would've loved to keep him too but you can't pay a #3 WR what he got from the Texans.

There is no real case to be made that resigning Cobb at that price would have been a good idea. 

[Sgt Hulk 13713]

Letting Quinn go was fucking stupid 

[Rabidhorn 121]

The Finns are paying Bryon Jones how much? 17 mill a year, JESUS!!! I hope most of that is guaranteed since he won't make it past year two on this contract.

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

1 hour ago, Radical Larry said:

 

 

 

Welp.

 

 

That's a pretty rich deal.  Not going to complain about not matching it.... Quinn was really good last year and we'll miss him.  Good thing we have Taco to.... er, good thing we have Gregory to.... uhm.  David Irving?  Nope... hmmm.

 

[Mileslong 4728]

Hate losing Quinn, Byron doesn’t bother me but Quinn was a difference maker.

[futureman 22444]

2 hours ago, C-Man said:

Yours and Drew's definition for "late in the season" differs from mine. Those tweets were after the 10th game. After that, Dak (and the Cowboys) face-planted with three straight losses to New England, Buffalo and Chicago and the Cowboys went on to lose the division title.

plus it's fucking trey wingo.  he's just a fucking dipshit on sportscenter, hardly credible for anything.  dak's MVP chances were fucking zero the minute he lost his third game in a row in week six to sam fucking darnold and the new york jets.  trey wingo and drew are both mouth-breathing dak apologist dipshits.

[Drew 2404]

You continue to be an idiot and nothing you're saying changes that.  

You keep moving goal posts and backtracking on what you say even when it's PLAIN as fucking day.  So once again, not only is your bit tired, old, and stupid...it's getting to the point where I really am starting to think you're actually this fucking stupid, and not just pretending.

[Drew 2404]

1 hour ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Letting Quinn go was fucking stupid 

They didn't "let him go" he was a FA and is getting paid quite well for what he did last year.  Good for him.  Would have loved to keep him, but that's still a high price for him.

2 hours ago, Newy25 said:

There is no real case to be made that resigning Cobb at that price would have been a good idea. 

Agreed 100%.  If they could have gotten him for a million or 2 more than they last year for 1-2 years, sure...but not that much.  Good for him though...he played on a cheap deal last year and played so well he earned some good money from the Texans.

[Radical Larry 28566]

[LTtxfan 49148]

4 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

 

Witten --  4.75mill for 1year... in Las Vegas

Edited March 17, 2020 by LTtxfan

[Sgt Hulk 13713]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[futureman 22444]

that can't be real

[Radical Larry 28566]

['stache 21800]

Can Randy Gregory play now since weed isn't being punished anymore? Or does that not go into effect for a while? Or did he have other substances he was dealing with?

[Radical Larry 28566]

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

29 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

 

Cowboys West....

We have some work to do to fill these spots.  We're already weak at DT and safety.

 

[Sgt Hulk 13713]

the dallas cowboys of Las vegas

[C-Man 27196]

7 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Cowboys West....

We have some work to do to fill these spots.  We're already weak at DT and safety.

 

Not that Witten or Heath are huge losses, I think this team is going to be hard-pressed to get to 8-8 with all the holes they will need to fill in FA and the draft.

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

3 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Not that Witten or Heath are huge losses, I think this team is going to be hard-pressed to get to 8-8 with all the holes they will need to fill in FA and the draft.

Witten, not so much.  Heath sucks, but imagine how big the hole is now?!?  Collins had talent but always banged up.  Still, if you want replacement value or better, we're going to need to identify some good players.

[DougO 5243]

Collins wasn't going to fit with the new regime, either, as well as being somewhat of a disappointment who was often injured. The Cowboys likely will be drafting larger DL to better staff a 3-4 base in the near future.

[Bone3421 716]

We kept sean lee though....

[Vic Mackey 47012]

3 hours ago, Radical Larry said:

 

Fuck yes!!!!!! This is the best news of the offseason. 

[Vic Mackey 47012]

1 hour ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Cowboys West....

We have some work to do to fill these spots.  We're already weak at DT and safety.

 

Ummmm Jarwin is much better than Witten was. He just never got to showcase it.

Heath? Lmao. A corpse could come in and fill his shoes. Did you ever watch him play? Aside from injuring his own players and the occassional pick, he never did shit. Byron Jones? A spare 6th rounder could give his production. You are acting like we are losing big talent. Hardly.

Maybe McCarthy and this staff recognize the fat on this roster and want to trim it. Good for them. Byron, Heath and Witten was definitely fat and extremely expendable. 

I feel a breath of fresh air that these dudes are gone, especially Witten and Heath. They were the definition of what was wrong with this entire franchise and that was dudes on the field who have zero business being on the field and coaches who fit the same boat and harbored them being here.  We cut Garrett and Marinelli, too. This is what is wrong with so many fans. They fear change and got used to what we had. And scared to lose what was comfortable for so long. And that was Witten at TE and Heath at safety. Witten used to be really good and then he fell way off. Heath always was trash.

[futureman 22444]

1 hour ago, DougO said:

3-4 base

yeah, no.  nickel is base.

[Zavala 1384]

2 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

the dallas cowboys of Las vegas

America's team

[Zavala 1384]

23 minutes ago, futureman said:

yeah, no.  nickel is base.

A 3-3 nickel you say?

[Newy25 7668]

This is one of the deepest drafts we have seen in years. I’m assuming this played a big part in the decision to let some of these guys go. Witten, Heath and Cobb have little to no value on an NFL roster at this point. Any money spent signing them would have been a waste, IMO. I hope Dallas looks at trading down if one of these QBs fall and a GM foolishly trades up to get one. 

Edited March 18, 2020 by Newy25

[Patrick Bateman 3911]

32 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Ummmm Jarwin is much better than Witten was. He just never got to showcase it.

Heath? Lmao. A corpse could come in and fill his shoes. Did you ever watch him play? Aside from injuring his own players and the occassional pick, he never did shit. Byron Jones? A spare 6th rounder could give his production. You are acting like we are losing big talent. Hardly.

Maybe McCarthy and this staff recognize the fat on this roster and want to trim it. Good for them. Byron, Heath and Witten was definitely fat and extremely expendable. 

I feel a breath of fresh air that these dudes are gone, especially Witten and Heath. They were the definition of what was wrong with this entire franchise and that was dudes on the field who have zero business being on the field and coaches who fit the same boat and harbored them being here.  We cut Garrett and Marinelli, too. This is what is wrong with so many fans. They fear change and got used to what we had. And scared to lose what was comfortable for so long. And that was Witten at TE and Heath at safety. Witten used to be really good and then he fell way off. Heath always was trash.

Nobody was arguing these guys were good....

Moving on....

 

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

I'm not sure the Cowboys have seen truly horrendous CB play lately to know what that's like. Theres a steep drop from Byron to random 4th round rookie. 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

29 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

I'm not sure the Cowboys have seen truly horrendous CB play lately to know what that's like. Theres a steep drop from Byron to random 4th round rookie. 

Ideally, we sign Chris Harris Jr, and we actually fucking hit on a first or second round corner. 

[DougO 5243]

Glad they signed Lee to a decent value deal. They're gonna need insurance at LB, lots of questions there, and figuring out how they're all going to fit in under a new system.

[LTtxfan 49148]

8 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Letting Quinn go was fucking stupid 

 

Quinn did a good job, but probably not a good gamble for 5yrs and $70mill.

Wish Cowboys didn't invest so much long-term money in Amari Cooper, and Zeke.  You would think somebody in Dallas organization would study how the Patriots manage their salary cap by position -- WR and RB are not the right positions to commit such large salary cap amounts on long-term contracts. 

 

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

 

Quinn did a good job, but probably not a good gamble for 5yrs and $70mill.

Wish Cowboys didn't invest so much long-term money in Amari Cooper, and Zeke.  You would think somebody in Dallas organization would study how the Patriots manage their salary cap by position -- WR and RB are not the right positions to commit such large salary cap amounts on long-term contracts. 

 

All that matters in the above are the guaranteed dollars. While 2 for 30mm is a little richer than what I was expecting it isn’t really egregious. Again our inability to even think about making an initial offer to Quinn has everything to do with our continued misevaluation of the market. We never handle our business early nor do we ever identify our priorities. I mean why the fuck are we signing Jaylen Smith and Jarwin a year early? Who gives a fuck about them?!? Handle your important business first. We wasted 3 of Byron Jones 5 years with the team playing a position he was ill suited for and now we gave up a great young player at a premium position of which we only got 40% utility out of.

Edited March 18, 2020 by Catdaddyhorn

[Radical Larry 28566]

 

[Bone3421 716]

Ideally, we sign Chris Harris Jr, and we actually fucking hit on a first or second round corner. 

Yeah because paying for a 30 year old cb over a 27 year old you drafted in the 1st rd is exactly what this FO will do

 

The jones hate from some is ridiculous...like others have mentioned how many cb left our scheme and suddenly started grabbing ints

 

Ints aint the end all be all either... Jones is an above avg cb that we let walk and will have trouble filling the hole left in the d

 

 

Harris wont be some bargain...

[markstanco 12573]

This is one of the deepest drafts we have seen in years. I’m assuming this played a big part in the decision to let some of these guys go.

Counting on 22 year old rookies huh? A lot of teams still playing in late january count on them being a big part of the plan.

It's all in on rebuild mode now. And looking at next years FAs it's getting worse before it gets better. FML as a cowboys life fan.

[Dr Fear 1268]

 

They have been super cheap at DT and it has been a huge problem. Big change in philosophy, probably Mike McCarthy/ Nolan influence.