Dallas Cowboys 2020 Offseason Thread -- 25th Anniversary of Mediocrity

[ChiTownDoc 21182]

2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

 

This MF. 

[Drew 2552]

Also you take Lamb every day. He was the #1 or #2 WR for everyone.

Some had him as a top 10 player.

WR WAS a NEED, it was just that we thought the top 2 would be gone and instead of taking WR 3-5 we could get 10-13 in the 3rd maybe.

It’s a great pick. It was the best player. And a position of need just not as big a need as DB.

[markstanco 12640]

I just sold my 19 foot super yacht.

[Kevin O’Shea 279]

Couldn’t have taken a better player at #17

[Whatever 700]

I love the pick. I mean I hate OU and all but I want the Cowboys to win and I think CD is a game-changer.

OU sucks.


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[DougO 5257]

If Cooper continues to check out for chunks of seasons, WR is going to prove to have been a much greater need that many thought.

[Mileslong 4729]

If nothing else I’m glad they didn’t let lamb slide to Philly

[gsoda3 3284]

35 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

With a WR corps of Amari, Gallop and Lamb, it’ll make Dak and Zeke better. The O will be ridiculous. 

just remember, joe looney's snapping the ball.

[Patrick Bateman 3933]

Lamb's more like Dez than Gallup...... except without all the off field crap (that we know of)....

[ChiTownDoc 21182]

1 minute ago, Dr. Beeper said:

I’m gonna laugh when Ruggs catches for more yards, wins ROY, and makes 10 Pro Bowls as a younger Tyreek. 

That would be a lot funnier if Lamb and Jeudy went ahead of Ruggs...

[Patrick Bateman 3933]

Just now, gsoda3 said:

just remember, joe looney's snapping the ball.

McGovern probably, but the draft's not over....... can get interior line, DL and safety/CB in next 3 rounds then you've done well to address holes.

 

[Hate 20154]

Bet he wears 88.

I hope he does. I will erase the memories from the last player to wear 88 (never a Dez fan).

[ChiTownDoc 21182]

1 minute ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Drew is insistent that Ruggs isn’t close to Lamb or Jeudy. Most think he’s wrong. 

Mea Culpa, didn't follow all that through the thread. 

Edit:  And I think he's wrong too.  Ruggs is very much like Hollywood...maybe Tyreek if you stretch that but Tyreek is only Tyreek with Mahomes.  I'll listen to Jeudy vs Lamb but not Ruggs...he's clearly behind the other 2.  NFL's obsession with speed is overrating a lot of track guys who are good, not great, football players. 

Edited April 24, 2020 by ChiTownDoc

[hundredTT 578]

Lamb is fucking good. I’m so tired of bitching about the cowboys; ima stfu and enjoy the ride. Offense should be filthy. If our overpaid D wakes up and stays healthy maybe we can win something. If not, sign or trade everything for a QB lol

Edited April 24, 2020 by hundredTT

[Drew 2552]

I’m gonna laugh when Ruggs catches for more yards, wins ROY, and makes 10 Pro Bowls as a younger Tyreek. 

EVERYONE refers it to as the Big 3 - not Big 2. 

You can laugh all you want. None of that would make him a better WR next year. He could win ROY on a bad team.

 

You realize Lamb will be the #3 and step in when Cooper is hurt occasionally right?

 

If the raider chunk the ball all over the field and Ruggs is starting just lineuped outside running posts and fly routes, yeah he’ll probably have more catches and yards.

 

But you want to know why? Because Ruggs doesn’t have Cooper, Gallup and a more focused on Jarwin taking away from Lamb.

 

Who do the raiders have at WR and TE again?

 

Anyone saying Ruggs is better than lamb today is on crack, and him having more yards and TDs next year won’t prove shit.

 

Long term it’s a toss up. Depends on what happens all over the team. I’m taking Lambs potential over Ruggs.

 

 

You realize Ruggs played for 3 years and had just around 1000 catches? That’s not a lot. Don’t think he had a 1000 yard season either. At some point production matters.

[Patrick Bateman 3933]

Philly went from Lamb to Reagor.  Reagor is no joke and will be a nice player but that has to feel like getting meatloaf when you almost had filet.....

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

We sniped Philly. Gotta be pumped about that

They jumped us a couple years ago to take Dallas Goedert in the 2nd.

[Radical Larry 28664]

 

[JOSEYWALES66 1805]

10 minutes ago, Drew said:

You can laugh all you want. None of that would make him a better WR next year. He could win ROY on a bad team.

 

You realize Lamb will be the #3 and step in when Cooper is hurt occasionally right?

 

If the raider chunk the ball all over the field and Ruggs is starting just lineuped outside running posts and fly routes, yeah he’ll probably have more catches and yards.

 

But you want to know why? Because Ruggs doesn’t have Cooper, Gallup and a more focused on Jarwin taking away from Lamb.

 

Who do the raiders have at WR and TE again?

 

Anyone saying Ruggs is better than lamb today is on crack, and him having more yards and TDs next year won’t prove shit.

 

Long term it’s a toss up. Depends on what happens all over the team. I’m taking Lambs potential over Ruggs.

 

 

You realize Ruggs played for 3 years and had just around 1000 catches? That’s not a lot. Don’t think he had a 1000 yard season either. At some point production matters.

I’m going to say 1000 catches is a lot.   Is that a lot? 

[Trey3216 15380]

22 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Lamb's more like Dez than Gallup...... except without all the off field crap (that we know of)....

And faster.   And quicker.  

[Hate 20154]

Look, I like Lamb. He’s terrific and WR is done for the foreseeable future. But that mother fucker is a quasi-Texan that went to ou. That’s really hard to turn off. I was never a fan of Roy Williams (safety) just because it’s really difficult for me to turn off hating someone like someone from ou.

[Patrick Bateman 3933]

There goes Ruiz..... sucks, no way he was ever going to fall to us in the 2nd but he would have been a good pick if we would have traded down.

[markstanco 12640]

Look, I like Lamb. He’s terrific and WR is done for the foreseeable future. But that mother fucker is a quasi-Texan that went to ou. That’s really hard to turn off. I was never a fan of Roy Williams (safety) just because it’s really difficult for me to turn off hating someone like someone from ou.

Evil Roy Williams. He is known as evil Roy Williams. You may be young and don't recall his name.

[Patrick Bateman 3933]

Fuck.... Damn.  31 years old.

 

[markstanco 12640]

There goes Ruiz..... sucks, no way he was ever going to fall to us in the 2nd but he would have been a good pick if we would have traded down.

Isn't he the guy who takes off plays constantly not going his way?

[futureman 22562]

Lulz

 

[C-Man 27293]

7 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Fuck.... Damn.  31 years old.

 

That sucks.

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

Lol at anyone that thinks lamb is a Gallup clone. I love Gallup, but he doesn’t have the raw talent that lamb has. There’s no way they were expecting lamb to be there. They had to take him. Hopkins is the comp I get from everyone. The plan was defense but they took the best player available. I applaud them.

 

Plus, i think WR was more of a need than y’all think.

Edited April 24, 2020 by youdunnf'dup

[Landomatic 3813]

Lamb’s a beast.  Great pick.  Fuck ou

[C-Man 27293]

You’d think somebody who made $50M/year would have a nicer looking study/man cave than Roger Goodell has.

[DougO 5257]

Ruggs was such a Raider pick, Al must have called that one in from the grave.

[Landomatic 3813]

Just now, C-Man said:

You’d think somebody who made $50M/year would have a nicer looking study/man cave than Roger Goodell has.

I’ve been pretty underwhelmed with most of the interior design of most of these guys given their salaries.  Except Jerry of course

[Helobious 9477]

Was it Lamb or Marquise Brown that intentionally slid to draw a targeting call & get (Brandon Jones?) ejected during the RRS? Savvy play even though I wanted to punch the OU player that did it.

[DougO 5257]

1 hour ago, Dr. Beeper said:

So we have two Gallups with Coop instead of an aging Cobb. We also have Jarwin and McCarthy instead of Witten and Garrett. 

There's always secret weapon Tavon Austin as well...still available, shockingly enough.

[Braff Zacklin 13670]

Surprised yet pleased with the Lamb pick. Dude was the best player on the field at the last RRS. blowU would've lost 2-3 more games without him.

[Patrick Bateman 3933]

1 hour ago, DougO said:

Bet he wears 88.

 

[Landomatic 3813]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

 

Well fuck yeah.  Where would you quarantine during a pandemic?

[markstanco 12640]

Fuck.... Damn.  31 years old.
 

His mom died like 7 or 8 years ago. He used to text her after a game after she passed away to talk to to her. Sad deal.

[Newy25 7703]

I have always criticized Jones for reaching on position of need and not taking the best player available so I would be a terrible hypocrite for criticizing him now just because I hate Oklahoma. Assuming a trade down was not available, Dallas stood and and took the best player available. It’s what grown up teams do so from that standpoint it’s hard to really find fault in the pick. A lot of scouts think he is the best WR in the entire draft and to have that fall to you at 17 is really very fortunate. 
 

My only fear is this forces Jones into “reach for position of need mode” for the rest of the draft. They can always still sign a veteran corner or trade for a defensive linemen later on so I hope the trend of taking best player available continues. 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

44 minutes ago, Hate said:

Look, I like Lamb. He’s terrific and WR is done for the foreseeable future. But that mother fucker is a quasi-Texan that went to ou. That’s really hard to turn off. I was never a fan of Roy Williams (safety) just because it’s really difficult for me to turn off hating someone like someone from ou.

I loved Demarco Murray all year, but to this day, I think we beat gb if he doesn't have a god awful fumble (can't remember if it was in the first half or the 2nd half). He had nothing but green grass in front of him, and because of how he holds the football, someone just poked that shit out and it changed the entire game. I'll never forget that play.

Edited April 24, 2020 by youdunnf'dup

[Drew 2552]

Lulz at Lamb being Gallup clone.

Lamb is probably the best run after catch guy in the team now. And that’s saying something. He’s not quite the route runner Amari is but is better than Gallup.

Gallup is tough catch guy and a deep threat guy, just like Lamb is. That’s where the comparison ends.

Lamb has been compared to Hopkins. Gallup wasnt(and I love Gallup).

What this means is Gallup is gone in 2 years or Cooper is(and for the record, Coopers massive deal is basically a 2 year deal according to everyone. All the money is up front. They can move on after 2 seasons with minimum effort) if he continues to disappear at times

[Drew 2552]

I loved Demarco Murray all year, but to this day, I think we beat gb if he doesn't have a god awful fumble (can't remember if it was in the first half or the 2nd half). He had nothing but green grass in front of him, and because of how he holds the football, someone just poked that shit out and it changed the entire game. I'll never forget that play.

Absolutely. I think 2nd half. They’re scoring there. At least a FG and running time off the clock.

[LTtxfan 49386]

36 minutes ago, futureman said:

 

 

 

[DougO 5257]

15 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I loved Demarco Murray all year, but to this day, I think we beat gb if he doesn't have a god awful fumble (can't remember if it was in the first half or the 2nd half). He had nothing but green grass in front of him, and because of how he holds the football, someone just poked that shit out and it changed the entire game. I'll never forget that play.

If you watch that replay it happened because Zach Martin badly whiffed on a block of Clay Matthews.

[AngryDragon 270]

18 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

I have always criticized Jones for reaching on position of need and not taking the best player available so I would be a terrible hypocrite for criticizing him now just because I hate Oklahoma. Assuming a trade down was not available, Dallas stood and and took the best player available. It’s what grown up teams do so from that standpoint it’s hard to really find fault in the pick. A lot of scouts think he is the best WR in the entire draft and to have that fall to you at 17 is really very fortunate. 
 

My only fear is this forces Jones into “reach for position of need mode” for the rest of the draft. They can always still sign a veteran corner or trade for a defensive linemen later on so I hope the trend of taking best player available continues. 

The way that the first round has fallen I expect a good DB to be there at 51. A lot of surprises from 20 on.

[markstanco 12640]

You’d think somebody who made $50M/year would have a nicer looking study/man cave than Roger Goodell has.

Not following here. You think Roger makes 50 million a year or are you comparing some player with zoom backdrops?

[markstanco 12640]

Well fuck yeah.  Where would you quarantine during a pandemic?

On a boat in party cove on LL in the early 2000s was the tits. And I mean tits.

[futureman 22562]

13 minutes ago, DougO said:

If you watch that replay it happened because Zach Martin badly whiffed on a block of Clay Matthews.

yeah it was julius peppers.

[ousuxndallas 65]

Blah blah blah and 1,000 catches in 3 years would set every NCAA record ever you buffoon. 
I like, in order, Jeudy, Lamb then Ruggs. I think all are Top 10 talents. I think Jefferson is not too far behind. I watched Reagor play a lot and not really that impressed.
More I think about this, more I wish we would’ve spun down and used our later first rounder to draft Jefferson / Bama safety / Murray, and focused on DE / OL / DB with our three picks in Rounds 2 and 3. Depending on what we did in first (assuming Jefferson wasn’t available), I would’ve entertained going all D or OL over first four picks and drafting Duvernay in the 4th.
I just don’t think there’s much of a difference between Lamb and Jefferson. But if the Cowboys had them as their #1 receiver, that means McClay and McCarthy did, and they got their guy. 

The Ticket says Dallas had Lamb as 6 overall on their board. That's a steal at 17.

[Vic Mackey 47189]

51 minutes ago, DougO said:

There's always secret weapon Tavon Austin as well...still available, shockingly enough.

He'll get a jet sweep every 4 games. I remember when we got him, Stephen said he was going to get 15-20 touches a game lmao. I hardly remember he exists.

I like the Lamb pick.