Dallas Cowboys 2020 Offseason Thread -- 25th Anniversary of Mediocrity

[Patrick Bateman 3,980]

Some other things on Robinson....

Deaf in one ear..... huh?  What was that?

We can add him to the debate team.

What he needs to improve on....

So, I've seen some thought that taking two boundaries in the draft means they may move Chido to a safety slot in nickel or dime, if the two youngsters can earn time.  Certainly needed at least one boundary as Lewis and Brown are slot guys.

[satyanash 15,608]

14 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Again, I asked who gave the scouting report you were referencing.....

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/23/chicago-bears-recently-held-pre-draft-meeting-with-tulsa-cornerback-reggie-robinson/

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The size, length and ball production offer up hope, but Robinson’s lack of speed and athletic traits could prevent him from maintaining playmaking positioning as a pro. He has average instincts, but his length can be a disruptive factor in close quarters. If he can crank up his run-support intensity, he might get looks as a zone corner or a safety.

https://insidethestar.com/tulsa-cb-reggie-robinson-ii-is-a-sleeper-the-cowboys-should-consider/

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Reggie Robinson checks all the boxes as far as size, speed, and ball production is concerned, but unfortunately that all doesn’t show up on tape. He’s a little stiff through the hips in his transitions, which allows receivers to gain separation on him. He possesses enough talent for the Dallas Cowboys to take a chance on him here, but a switch to safety may be in his future if he can improve his run support just a little bit.

 

[Newy25 7,916]

50 minutes ago, Drew said:

Depends on where you look. Check social media. Most of the guys like Dane Brugler and John owning and Jonah Tuhl all had him as a top 100 player.

 

ESPN and PFF has him much lower.

 

It’s a value pick based on who you want to believe. Or it’s not if you believe the other.

 

Simply he’s a Ball Hawk and amazing athlete, and a good special teams player with a blocked kick/punt in each of the last 3 seasons. I can definitely see why they took him.

 

He is a bit of a project at CB and maybe a potential safety, But he had 4 of Tulsas 5 total interceptions last year. That along give me some hope.

The mean of the draft projections had him going right where he went- in the middle of the fourth round. It’s an ok value pick. I just kind of wished Dallas kept up the streak of taking guys rated much higher than they were drafted. But it’s hard to really complain just nit picking not taking a few guys who were higher on the board despite not needing another OT or LB. 

Edited April 25, 2020 by Newy25

[Patrick Bateman 3,980]

15 minutes ago, satyanash said:

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2020/04/23/chicago-bears-recently-held-pre-draft-meeting-with-tulsa-cornerback-reggie-robinson/

https://insidethestar.com/tulsa-cb-reggie-robinson-ii-is-a-sleeper-the-cowboys-should-consider/

 

Thank you.  Yea, I read Lance Z's report.  It was poor as he seemed to contradict himself and didn't really understand the player.  Maybe he wrote it early in the process but Robinson has very good athletic traits and at 6'1" and running a 4.44, his speed is good although maybe he meant game speed.  As he references himself, he can get high out of his transitions and hasn't been playing the position his entire career, although not a huge concern.  In the 4th round, they all got warts but I think he's a boundary CB, who could cross at safety and is expected to be a special teams standout.

Okay, 2 in the 5th including the last pick, then no 6th and 1 7th.  Rumor going around is that there is a medical issue with Weaver.

EDIT.  oh shit, we traded up and took Tyler Biadasz, center from OL factory, Wisconsin.

 

 

Edited April 25, 2020 by Patrick Bateman

[satyanash 15,608]

34 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

Good ole Saty..

I'm not hating on the pick, I think he'll be solid at safety.

Just don't want a situation like Erik Rowe, a true safety who got torched because the Eagles insisted on playing him as a boundary corner with no over-the-top help.

[taybo20 3,038]

And we just Got Biadasz the center from wisky

[C-Man 27,779]

LSU has had 12 players drafted already. Alabama has 9.

[LTtxfan 50,005]

Just now, taybo20 said:

And we just Got Biadasz the center from wisky

Traded up with Eagles.... CRAZY

#146 Pick Tyler Biadasz     Center.   Wisconsin

[taybo20 3,038]

Traded for the eagles compensatory...looking up details now 

[Drew 2,929]

Yeah traded up for the center. From Wisconsin. Of course.

Might not actually start immediately. But will challenge there. And if he wins that job and looney is the backup we’re in good shape.

[Patrick Bateman 3,980]

There's the interior lineman....

Trading one Wisky Center for another.....

 

[Newy25 7,916]

Any details on what Dallas has to give up? 

[taybo20 3,038]

3 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Any details on what Dallas has to give up? 

Worth it imo
 

Edited April 25, 2020 by taybo20

[Newy25 7,916]

He had a late third round grade by almost everyone so a really good value pick at the end of the fourth round. 

[C-Man 27,779]

9 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

There's the interior lineman....

Trading one Wisky Center for another.....

 

Sign me up. I went from hating the Frederick pick at the time -- though it was more Jerrah reaching for him at least a round early, perhaps two -- to maybe him being my favorite player on the team.

[Patrick Bateman 3,980]

Some more.... what a fucking great name.... Biad--azz. Very center like.

Gave up a 5th next year......

Gotta think Looney stays as two way backup on the interior and now a 3 way competition for 2 positions C/Guard.  Like it a lot, especially if Tyler bounces back to his junior level being healthy.

[taybo20 3,038]

Great pick. And fantastic way to get him. 

[Drew 2,929]

So the OL is probably Collins, Martin, Looney, McGoverin/Williams, Smith.

Maybe Biadazz beats him out and Looney is your backup C/Guard(great for us)

And Connor Williams probably goes to swing tackle.

That’s a decent OL to go into the year.

[LTtxfan 50,005]

2 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

He had a late third round grade by almost everyone so a really good value pick at the end of the fourth round. 

Hmmm...  Tyler Biadasz   

 

NFL.com

Solid but unspectacular center prospect who has been a consistent performer during Jonathan Taylor’s rushing reign in the Big Ten. He’s smart, well-versed in every blocking scheme and plays with efficient, inside hands that possess impressive grip strength. He plays under control and usually hits his landmarks, but he has issues winning when matched against power. Pass protection could be a concern, as NFL sub-rushers will feast on his lunging and average lateral quickness. Biadasz’s skill level has been developed, so he could become an early starter with limited upside.

The Draft Network

A starter of 41 straight games, Biadasz proved to be one of the best interior offensive lineman to come through the Badgers program in recent memory. A program that’s rich in offensive line talent, he racked up tons of accolades that will forever etch his career in stone. A career played strictly at center, he remained the heart of the offense throughout his three seasons with the team. While the awards stacked up during his final season, there is a widely speculated belief that he took a bit of a step back following hip surgery. His functional strength and balance were average and he didn’t look nearly as crisp as his pre-injury form. Biadasz’s medicals will vary amongst teams, but he still remains a late Day 2 or early Day 3 option for man/gap based blocking scheme teams.

[Newy25 7,916]

6 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

Worth it imo
 

Dallas has several comp picks for Jones and Quinn, right? Totally worth it to get a third round grade OL. 

['stache 22,143]

Maybe Jerry should spend more time on that boat.

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

Marquis Goodwin to the eagles 

[Dbeasy 15,596]

pleasantly surprised to see the Cowboys pick up the Wisconsin center. I was a little concerned that they went CB/S instead of C, but they were right. They got both.  Great.

[Pato del Muerto 53,506]

Run of interior linemen after the dallas pick this round. 

[Drew 2,929]

Would anyone be opposed to another WR here? KJ Hill is a pure slot WR and will be great there. But doubling up there? Not so sure. He’s a top 100 player on a lot of boards. Proche is at that point too.

 

Anae the edge who will have some impact is still around too.

 

What we thinking?

[taybo20 3,038]

If Anae was available to us, he’s a take all the way! Not sure he’ll last .

maybe Cameron Brown the LB

Edited April 25, 2020 by taybo20

[Mo Horn 8,938]

TE from Washington the best player available on the board. 

[Drew 2,929]

TE from Washington the best player available on the board. 

Depends on the board. On the ESPN one he is. Dane last top 100 player is Hill.

Probably just taste.

[conVINCEd 21,477]

Kinda want the aggy punter.

[Pato del Muerto 53,506]

2 minutes ago, conVINCEd said:

Kinda want the aggy punter.

Yeah this would be good here, since there’s no 6th round pick absent another trade. 

[Patrick Bateman 3,980]

10 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

TE from Washington the best player available on the board. 

Not really an inline TE though..... More of a move guy.  Is that what Coach Thumb wants?

[Drew 2,929]

Not really an inline TE though..... More of a move guy.  Is that what Coach Thumb wants?

Yeah said they wanted a more Witten type TE to pair with Jarwin.

Still thinking WR here(hill or proche), Anae the edge.

They’ll probably grab someone We’re not thinking though.

[taybo20 3,038]

Not upset if they get some inline TE, not sure who, but if Anae is there, grab him.

watch it be moss lol

[taybo20 3,038]

Got Anae!! Great pick! 

Edited April 25, 2020 by taybo20

[Drew 2,929]

They got anae according to twitter.

Holy shit. That was a late 3rd mock to them quite a bit. 3rd or 4th rounder at lowest.

They’ve destroyed this draft.

[Patrick Bateman 3,980]

Anae!!!!!!  In basically the 6th, gotta like the risk...... He's basically a nasty effort player who could be a rotational guy.  Like the pick. 

[Dbeasy 15,596]

Isn't Anae too small to be an effective DE?

[Pato del Muerto 53,506]

They’re not overthinking, and taking the player that drops to them. That’s been an option on 3 picks now and they’ve done the right thing.  Nice job. 

[Patrick Bateman 3,980]

Here's some stuff on Anae.

 

[Napoleon 8,833]

  "Anae was the 34th and final pick of the fifth round. 

He is the second player selected in the 2020 draft with Hawaii ties, "

 

Finally got some fucking Polynesian Ties up in this bitch!

https://www.khon2.com/sports/kahukus-bradlee-anae-picked-by-dallas-cowboys-in-fifth-round-of-nfl-draft/

[Patrick Bateman 3,980]

5 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Isn't Anae too small to be an effective DE?

6'3", 257 Lbs.  Probably can add 10 lbs there.  Shorter arms which is what works against him but at 179, if he can contribute in special teams and be a situational pass rusher in his first two years, that's amazing.  He was amazingly productive.

Oh, also..... his Texas ties..... love it.

 

Edited April 25, 2020 by Patrick Bateman

[Mo Horn 8,938]

 So no JG for this draft. His evaluation of talent might have been just as bad as he was a HC.

[anacardo 217]

Love Lamb and Gallimore - feel like the later is underrated playing for LOL Stoops and miscast as a 3-4 NT.  Very happy with Diggs and Badass.  Tulsa CB a fine boom or bust pick, not sold on Utah DE as I don’t think his ceiling and versatility in terms of technique is that high but he apparently was great in the Senior Bowl.  Could be our best draft since ‘89. 

[Napoleon 8,833]

1 minute ago, anacardo said:

...Could be our best draft since ‘89. 

Surround Jerry with strange from now on!

[taybo20 3,038]

4 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

6'3", 257 Lbs.  Probably can add 10 lbs there.  Shorter arms which is what works against him but at 179, if he can contribute in special teams and be a situational pass rusher in his first two years, that's amazing.  He was amazingly productive.

Oh, also..... his Texas ties..... love it.

This! He has similar size to Robert Quinn. He’s gonna be great on 3rd downs and rotational. Lots of grit and effort guy. Just bolsters the DL where we will be getting after QBs this year. No one is expecting him to be DLaw. But I do think he will surprise and make plays.

Edited April 25, 2020 by taybo20

[LTtxfan 50,005]

32 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

If Anae was available to us, he’s a take all the way! Not sure he’ll last .

maybe Cameron Brown the LB

Cameron -- Just went to Giants at pick #183

[taybo20 3,038]

Just now, LTtxfan said:

Cameron -- Just went to Giants at pick #183

Glad we got Anae!

[LTtxfan 50,005]

11 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Anae!!!!!!  In basically the 6th, gotta like the risk...... He's basically a nasty effort player who could be a rotational guy.  Like the pick. 

 

 

[Drew 2,929]

Love Lamb and Gallimore - feel like the later is underrated playing for LOL Stoops and miscast as a 3-4 NT.  Very happy with Diggs and Badass.  Tulsa CB a fine boom or bust pick, not sold on Utah DE as I don’t think his ceiling and versatility in terms of technique is that high but he apparently was great in the Senior Bowl.  Could be our best draft since ‘89. 

He was picked last in round 5 and consensus 3rd rounder.

 

Don’t really have to be sold on Anae at all anyways because 5th rounders are hit or miss anyways.

 

Dude will be in the rotation next year. He’ll be at least as good as Armstrong I bet.

 

How about best draft since 2016? Let’s start there. Got 3 starters still(Collins was a starter but is no in Oakland, so 4 really) and our Nickle Corner in that draft. Tough to top it.

 

Hope this one does.

[Pato del Muerto 53,506]

If I understand things correctly, Dallas was looking at Riggs in the first, Gallimore in the 2nd, anae in the 3rd or 4th.  And got them all a round later, plus lamb?