Dallas Cowboys 2020 Offseason Thread -- 25th Anniversary of Mediocrity

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

I actually wouldn’t be shocked if Hurts ended up being a lot better than any of us think, but it was still a stupid pick for the eagles if you already paid Wentz. 

[Mileslong 4,728]

Some stuff on DiNucci.[/url] He's a transfer from Pitt.  He's skinny and has a mediocre arm..... what could go wrong?  I guess a PS guy and reportedly was thought to be going to Chicago to join DeFiippo but guess Dallas wanted to add him without bidding for him.  Weird pick.  He has very little upside IMO, but whatever.... Romo part deux!!!!   Not really. And there's this...  

 

You say he has a weak arm, have you really watched his highlights? I saw he transferred from Pitt, this guy has one of the best releases I’ve seen since Marino. I’m not saying he is Marino I’m saying he has almost the exact same release.

 

He can run and has plenty of zip. He is kind of like colt mccoy, quick release and elusive. His challenge will be ability to read defenses but he can spin it without question.[/url]

 

[Patrick Bateman 3,918]

For the draft geeks...... metrics.

 

[Patrick Bateman 3,918]

34 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

20 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Some stuff on DiNucci.[/url] He's a transfer from Pitt.  He's skinny and has a mediocre arm..... what could go wrong?  I guess a PS guy and reportedly was thought to be going to Chicago to join DeFiippo but guess Dallas wanted to add him without bidding for him.  Weird pick.  He has very little upside IMO, but whatever.... Romo part deux!!!!   Not really. And there's this...  

 

You say he has a weak arm, have you really watched his highlights? I saw he transferred from Pitt, this guy has one of the best releases I’ve seen since Marino. I’m not saying he is Marino I’m saying he has almost the exact same release.

 

He can run and has plenty of zip. He is kind of like colt mccoy, quick release and elusive. His challenge will be ability to read defenses but he can spin it without question.[/url]

 

 

I've watched enough of DiNucci to feel like I have a good sense of his game, yes.  Much more than highlights.  One thing I do like about him is he can throw or adjust and throw in different arm slots or angles.  I've also like that about him when the rush gets near or the passing lane breaks down.

 

[VirginiaLonghorn 4,777]

23 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

For the draft geeks...... metrics.

 

... prepared by the COVID-19 modelers. 

[Newy25 7,701]

17 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

For the draft geeks...... metrics.

 

I will never understand the fixation some teams have with drafting based on need. Teams get so locked in on solving one or two roster spots that they miss the point of the entire draft. Basically, what Jerry Jones used to do. Remember Shante Carver and Kavika Pittman? Drafted at least one if not two rounds too early because we needed to replace Haley. The point of the draft is to be agnostic about your current roster and maximize talent. The draft is not the only means to fill out your roster but some teams think it is. It’s not surprising that Jon Gruden is fucking the dog in the draft. This guy once drafted a kicker in the first round. He should never be in charge of a team’s draft strategy. 

Since teams have different draft boards it’s probably impossible to say teams clustered together on that chart are much different but it is clear to see that teams like the Raiders had a fundamentally different view on what the draft is about than say the Cardinals. 

[Mileslong 4,728]

I've watched enough of DiNucci to feel like I have a good sense of his game, yes.  Much more than highlights.  One thing I do like about him is he can throw or adjust and throw in different arm slots or angles.  I've also like that about him when the rush gets near or the passing lane breaks down.
 

Yes I haven’t watched anything other than two years of highlights. I don’t know if his game will translate to the pros but I do think he can be a better backup than rush which is why you draft a QB this low in the draft.

I just love watching him throw, would like to see his release right besides Marino, it’s uncanny. Marino with a stronger arm and obviously could read defenses but this kid can spin it

[TonyTexas 10,518]

Lulz at Mileslong comparing DiNucci  to Dan Marino in not 1 but 2 posts. 

Edited April 26, 2020 by TonyTexas

[Patrick Bateman 3,918]

32 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

Yes I haven’t watched anything other than two years of highlights. I don’t know if his game will translate to the pros but I do think he can be a better backup than rush which is why you draft a QB this low in the draft.

I just love watching him throw, would like to see his release right besides Marino, it’s uncanny. Marino with a stronger arm and obviously could read defenses but this kid can spin it

He has some skills, he's got some wheels, a quick release and when he sets his feet, he can be accurate downfield.  Velocity on his passes would be mediocre and he doesn't really zip the ball into small windows consistently.  He also struggles with decision making and against pressure.  Look, it's a 7th round pick who was scheduled to be a priority UDFA.  Who cares, right?  Maybe he turns into a developmental backup QB, maybe he doesn't.  After struggling a bit at Pitt, he made himself into something at JMU and now is going to get a shot in the NFL (although I may argue family connections meant as much), so good on him. 

He's going to be the 3rd QB and most likely spend his time on the PS and scout teams and get a shot to learn.  He also needs to work on his body and probably bulk up a little especially his legs and core and this may help develop a little more whip on the ball.  The Cowboys backup QB situation is really terrible and this guy isn't expected to really help out this year, so I would still prefer to get rid of Rush unless he balls out in pre-season (if we have one) and sign a vet as the Tony Romo out of the booth contingency plan has come and gone..... Hope the DiNucci project works out.... I really, really do.  I just wouldn't bet on it and as a 7th, who cares it's a lottery ticket pick.

 

[Mileslong 4,728]

Lulz at Mileslong comparing DiNucci  to Dan Marino in not 1 but 2 posts. 

You dolt, it’s guys like you which require me to put a disclaimer before every statement. I SAID IM NOT SAYING HE IS DAM MARINO I SAID HE HAS A VERY SIMILAR RELEASE.

 

Now go back, read my post again, come back and apologize then go fuck yourself. Especially since you think every Texans pick was great Jesus

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

I get he didn’t have the best combine, but I don’t understand how this lasts to the last pick of the 5th round:

I really think he could get into the rotation and help us next year.

[Mileslong 4,728]

My takeaway is you’ve watched a shitload of film and proclaim he’ll be better than Marino. I just didn’t respond because you’re crazy, and I subconsciously scan through your posts, looking for tidbits reaffirming the crazy. You didn’t disappoint. 

You’re the king of the morons, you almost single handidly ruin this website. Read my fucking post before you comment on it otherwise stfu

[DougO 5,252]

Anae has kind of an Anthony Spencer vibe to him, only way the hell cheaper. He can be useful as long as they don't give him a massive contract or stupidly franchise him.

The QB they drafted I know nothing about, but it seems like they could have used that pick better considering he already had connections with McCarthy they probably could have gotten him without a draft pick.

[Newy25 7,701]

41 minutes ago, Dr. Beeper said:

Yes and I remember Ebenezer Ekuban and him writing diaries to the DMN what it was like being a rookie. And he wrote about his village had just killed a goat or some shit. 

There are so many examples of Jones going into the draft and trying to fix that one roster spot. David Lafleur, anyone? People incorrectly attribute the Cowboys hell during the Dave Campo era as a team suffering from the negative effects of the salary cap but the real sin was the completely wasted drafts during those years leading up to that time. At least Ekuban wasn’t a total bust. He was simply drafted almost a full round too high based on need. 

Fortunately, Jones seems to have changed his ways. Unfortunately for Raiders fans their management does not even get what the draft is all about. 

[Bone3421 716]

I will never understand the fixation some teams have with drafting based on need. Teams get so locked in on solving one or two roster spots that they miss the point of the entire draft. Basically, what Jerry Jones used to do. Remember Shante Carver and Kavika Pittman? Drafted at least one if not two rounds too early because we needed to replace Haley. The point of the draft is to be agnostic about your current roster and maximize talent. The draft is not the only means to fill out your roster but some teams think it is. It’s not surprising that Jon Gruden is fucking the dog in the draft. This guy once drafted a kicker in the first round. He should never be in charge of a team’s draft strategy. 
Since teams have different draft boards it’s probably impossible to say teams clustered together on that chart are much different but it is clear to see that teams like the Raiders had a fundamentally different view on what the draft is about than say the Cardinals. 

Might want to hold off on that Gruden talk...everyone criticized the olineman pick last year and he had a good rookie year

The kicker in the first rd played for 17? Years and as the recent article pointed out that the raiders the year before lost I believe 5 games directly from kicker position and had 8 losses by less than a td. Also the article mentioned that the janikowski pick produced better value than most of the 1st rd picks that year

[Patrick Bateman 3,918]

1 hour ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I get he didn’t have the best combine, but I don’t understand how this lasts to the last pick of the 5th round:

I really think he could get into the rotation and help us next year.

Reportedly he didn't interview great and his weight fluctuated on him but as a 5th rounder, can't complain. His hand technique is pretty great and it'll need to be since he lacks length.  Great motor so again, if he can be one of those high motor/effort situational players and play balls out STs, it turns into a fantastic pick.  He's also just a nasty guy who who gets after it and highly productive.  Great value for a guy like that.  He swam with sharks as a kid in Hawaii and calls them water dogs.  He's got some dog in him...

 

[Newy25 7,701]

1 hour ago, Bone3421 said:

Might want to hold off on that Gruden talk...everyone criticized the olineman pick last year and he had a good rookie year

The kicker in the first rd played for 17? Years and as the recent article pointed out that the raiders the year before lost I believe 5 games directly from kicker position and had 8 losses by less than a td. Also the article mentioned that the janikowski pick produced better value than most of the 1st rd picks that year

You are arguing my point for me. The Raiders were reacting to not having a good kicker which resulted in a few close loses by doing something monumentally stupid and taking a kicker in the first round. A player they could have easily picked in the 4th round. Or a player they could have signed in free agency. It’s was an incredibly stupid use of a draft pick even if he had a good career. 

[Drew 2,498]

I get he didn’t have the best combine, but I don’t understand how this lasts to the last pick of the 5th round:
I really think he could get into the rotation and help us next year.

Not quick and short arms. So that made him drop.

He’ll be the kind of guy that plays 8-10 years and gives you good production.

[Nicole44 22,068]

Hopefully, Smith/Gregory will get the green light by the Commish to play This year. We need the pass rushers. Edge! The offense is stacked. With new coaching/tweaks in play calling, we should be able to make the post season. And have a high scoring offense. I expect this. If that doesn’t happen then we need to draft a QB or buy a proven one in FA next year. Jmo. We had a great draft. I realize that because Lamb fell into our lap we were going to get great draft grades regardless. 
 

I do not understand the Packers. I just don’t. How do you not draft one WR in a draft where they were loaded? The new regime must not care for A A Ron. 

[futureman 22,497]

5 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

I've watched enough of DiNucci to feel like I have a good sense of his game, yes.  Much more than highlights. 

priceless

[futureman 22,497]

3 hours ago, Mileslong said:

you almost single handidly ruin this website. Read my fucking post before you comment on it otherwise stfu

and you almost single ‘handidly’ make it great, big guy.  have always admired your passion. 

[Mileslong 4,728]

and you almost single ‘handidly’ make it great, big guy.  have always admired your passion. 

I will always admire the fact you have one more chromosome than I have...

[futureman 22,497]

54 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

I will always admire the fact you have one more chromosome than I have...

lulz.  you’re the most easily-baited dumbass on the site.  never change. 

[Pato del Muerto 52,531]

2 hours ago, Drew said:

Not quick and short arms. So that made him drop.

He’ll be the kind of guy that plays 8-10 years and gives you good production.

Jim jeffcoat

[Mileslong 4,728]

lulz.  you’re the most easily-baited dumbass on the site.  never change. 

And you are the lowest fucking common denominator along with beeper. I wish you two would change, into adults

[futureman 22,497]

6 minutes ago, Mileslong said:

And you are the lowest fucking common denominator along with beeper. I wish you two would change, into adults

your preferred posting style is highly reliant on a litany of f-bombs and personal attacks.  you’re like a petulant child.  I merely challenge conventional wisdom wrt the cowboys because the direction of the team and the complacency of the fan base concerns me.  there’s no reason for you to attack me the way that you do. 

[Newy25 7,701]

Dallas has three comp picks (3rd, 4th and 5th) next year of which they traded the 5th already to Philly. With six picks in the first four rounds, Dallas is setup nicely again next year to keep building out their infrastructure. 

[Iceman 2,720]

Over/ under on whether they have the 17th pick again, with under being the earlier draft position.

[futureman 22,497]

4 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Dallas has three comp picks (3rd, 4th and 5th) next year of which they traded the 5th already to Philly. With six picks in the first four rounds, Dallas is setup nicely again next year to keep building out their infrastructure. 

you are actually right for once.  and because we’ll be picking near the top of each round we should have another stellar draft. 

[Trey3216 15,349]

1 hour ago, futureman said:

you are actually right for once.  and because we’ll be picking near the top of each round we should have another stellar draft. 

[Newy25 7,701]

Negged for quoting the troll. 

[futureman 22,497]

Newy is such a bitch, I love it

[Trey3216 15,349]

8 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Negged for quoting the troll. 

Negged for negging 

Edited April 27, 2020 by Trey3216

[purplepride95 6,890]

On 4/25/2020 at 5:53 PM, Kevin O’Shea said:

Good draft. Fuck the Eagles. 

[Vic Mackey 47,089]

1 hour ago, futureman said:

Newy is such a bitch, I love it

This is one thing I will have to agree with you on. He's a major bitch.

[Beau Vine 54,292]

22 hours ago, Bone3421 said:

Might want to hold off on that Gruden talk...everyone criticized the olineman pick last year and he had a good rookie year

 

[LTtxfan 49,302]

Cowboys Draft Recap.... The Will Cain Show

The 2020 NFL Draft is in the books, so how did the Cowboys do? Will talks with Bobby Belt & John Owning to recap all seven picks from CeeDee Lamb to Ben DiNucci.

https://podcasts.apple.com/se/podcast/cowboys-draft-recap/id264804175?i=1000472816171

[Gucci_Suit 2,653]

Without sports on tv at least we can watch the middle school bitch fight going on in this thread. Jesus fucking Christ, this thread topic wasn’t supposed to be about insecure message board posters and their tendencies and sensitivities... but that is, minimum, 75% of the fucking posts in this fucking shit hole thread. It ain’t about the Dallas Cowboys... not this thread topic. It’s about whatever fuckstick thinks he has the smartest turd of a sports take which results in some online pillow fighting and name calling. 

fucking goddamn. It ain’t about you. or me  

We’re gonna have to start a new Cowboys thread. Fuck. Offseason in pandemic REALLY sucks. 

[Burntcowboy 1,845]

Cowboys had a great draft. Hopefully the new coaching staff can put it altogether 

[Hate 20,122]

Without sports on tv at least we can watch the middle school bitch fight going on in this thread. Jesus fucking Christ, this thread topic wasn’t supposed to be about insecure message board posters and their tendencies and sensitivities... but that is, minimum, 75% of the fucking posts in this fucking shit hole thread. It ain’t about the Dallas Cowboys... not this thread topic. It’s about whatever fuckstick thinks he has the smartest turd of a sports take which results in some online pillow fighting and name calling. 
fucking goddamn. It ain’t about you. or me  
We’re gonna have to start a new Cowboys thread. Fuck. Offseason in pandemic REALLY sucks. 

Probably 76% after this post.

[Hate 20,122]

The old Surly got the ronas double post.

[C-Man 27,235]

Ballgame?

[Deej 76,847]

12 hours ago, Gucci_Suit said:

Without sports on tv at least we can watch the middle school bitch fight going on in this thread. Jesus fucking Christ, this thread topic wasn’t supposed to be about insecure message board posters and their tendencies and sensitivities... but that is, minimum, 75% of the fucking posts in this fucking shit hole thread. It ain’t about the Dallas Cowboys... not this thread topic. It’s about whatever fuckstick thinks he has the smartest turd of a sports take which results in some online pillow fighting and name calling. 

fucking goddamn. It ain’t about you. or me  

We’re gonna have to start a new Cowboys thread. Fuck. Offseason in pandemic REALLY sucks. 

I recommend staying away from the basketball board.

[futureman 22,497]

13 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Ballgame?

lulz that isn’t real.  fake news

[Wild Bill 324]

14 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Ballgame?

What a Troll. He played against him once in 2017 and Dak's numbers were 21/34 181 yds and 2 int

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

34 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Ballgame?

Lol I think you got fooled by the internet, my dude. But it is funny that someone would create this meme, knowing just how ridiculous it is.

[C-Man 27,235]

Lol I think you got fooled by the internet, my dude. But it is funny that someone would create this meme, knowing just how ridiculous it is.

Pulled it off a Ticket FB page. Mainly posting because it might draw futureman and/or Drew (probably Drew) offside.

[Bone3421 716]

You are arguing my point for me. The Raiders were reacting to not having a good kicker which resulted in a few close loses by doing something monumentally stupid and taking a kicker in the first round. A player they could have easily picked in the 4th round. Or a player they could have signed in free agency. It’s was an incredibly stupid use of a draft pick even if he had a good career. 

Actually I'm saying you can't call him a dog in this draft because we dont know yet....and the example you used with kicker was proven to be the correct pick after the value of his career was able to be added to the equation of being the 17th pick

[Iceman 2,720]

an endorsement by Richard Sherman ain't...

[TornACL 7,721]

I am still laughing at anyone who would believe that Richard Sherman would use "looks" among his criteria for determining the best QB he's played against.