Dallas Cowboys 2020 Offseason Thread -- 25th Anniversary of Mediocrity

[Drew 2331]

It won't come as a surprise that I think CeeDee is the real deal, and the hype around it justified.  I'm sure he'll have some rookie type bone headed plays every once in a while...but he should be good.

 

Just a lot of weapons.

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

1 hour ago, youdunnf'dup said:

More quotes from some of our current players that confirm just how much of a shit show the previous regime was:

 

Yeah something we didn't discuss enough throughout the Garrett/Linehan/Kiffin/Marinelli/Tampa2/Cover3 years is how laughably predictable we were. I would routinely come across anecdotes from opposing players or players who recently left the team laughing at how simple our schemes were.   It's as if Garrett approached football as though we had a significant talent advantage and therefore didn't need to scheme our way to victories. 

[gsoda3 3236]

4 minutes ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Yeah something we didn't discuss enough throughout the Garrett/Linehan/Kiffin/Marinelli/Tampa2/Cover3 years is how laughably predictable we were. I would routinely come across anecdotes from opposing players or players who recently left the team laughing at how simple our schemes were.   It's as if Garrett approached football as though we had a significant talent advantage and therefore didn't need to scheme our way to victories. 

i feel like our predictability on both sides of the ball was well covered. 

[Catdaddyhorn 3444]

And it still wasn't discussed enough. 

[EvilCaseMcCoy 691]

6 hours ago, Catdaddyhorn said:

Yeah something we didn't discuss enough throughout the Garrett/Linehan/Kiffin/Marinelli/Tampa2/Cover3 years is how laughably predictable we were. I would routinely come across anecdotes from opposing players or players who recently left the team laughing at how simple our schemes were.   It's as if Garrett approached football as though we had a significant talent advantage and therefore didn't need to scheme our way to victories. 

Funny cause he used to go visit Saban in the offseason for guidance and that's all Saban has to do. 

[Guest]

Unfortunately for the Ginger, he only got to play the Washington Football Team twice per year.

[totallynotabuttpirate 5342]

Herman visited Saban as well... Might explain why he calls the same 4th down play over and over.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Herman visited Saban as well... Might explain why he calls the same 4th down play over and over.

Alabama Football doesn't seem like the best place to learn how to punt...

Edited August 29, 2020 by slorch

[Vito Andolini 9099]

Jeez, if you’re going to be so paranoid as to have the players wear numberless jerseys and restrict camera angles, just don’t show the fucking thing. But Jerry sold a three-hour show to the traditional preseason carriers. 

[Nicole44 22027]

10 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

Jeez, if you’re going to be so paranoid as to have the players wear numberless jerseys and restrict camera angles, just don’t show the fucking thing. But Jerry sold a three-hour show to the traditional preseason carriers. 

That’s bizarre. Especially since we will hear their names. Mike is like wtf?

Edited August 30, 2020 by Nicole44

[Vito Andolini 9099]

Irvin would have trouble calling the game with numbers and sober, much less half in the bag and the players on double secret probation.

[DougO 5239]

45 minutes of listening to fucktards blab about nothing. Quite a production. I remember when the Cowboy network, was actually pretty decent, long ago.

[DougO 5239]

Cowboys line up under center...here's a shot at a shithead coach looking on.

[Vito Andolini 9099]

I think I heard Jones say the scrimmage begins at 6, so I hope we something that resembles football at that time.

But if this is what we will be allowed to see all night? Fuck that.

[DougO 5239]

Looking forward to the All Huddle Replay.

 

 

[Vito Andolini 9099]

Ok,; now the broadcast crew has been prohibited from describing formations or how players are performing. 

[DougO 5239]

This shitshow is like being stuck in a traffic jam for three hours, only seeing the cars in front and behind you. What is the freakin' point?

[Pato del Muerto 52340]

You guys are the idoits watching it when there’s stars playoff hockey on. 

[Vic Mackey 46932]

So did we win today?

[DougO 5239]

Jerry Jones should be sued by the 25 stations he swindled into giving up three hours of their day, and by Whataburger for disgracing their name as sponsor.

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

Lol are they just recording a practice? What am I watching?

[Nicole44 22027]

5 hours ago, DougO said:

Jerry Jones should be sued by the 25 stations he swindled into giving up three hours of their day, and by Whataburger for disgracing their name as sponsor.

But even though it’s all true you, can’t deny he hustles brilliantly. 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

16 hours ago, Vito Andolini said:

Jeez, if you’re going to be so paranoid as to have the players wear numberless jerseys and restrict camera angles, just don’t show the fucking thing. But Jerry sold a three-hour show to the traditional preseason carriers. 

I respect it. I think this is mike McCarthy realizing he had no choice but to televise this practice (Don’t know thee behind the scenes stuff on that one) so he’s just doing whatever he can to maintain a competitive advantage. All that tells me is he thinks about shit like that, and I think that’s probably more than we would say about ginger. Garrett would just say we have better talent and it doesn’t matter if they know exactly what we’re running.

[kevwun 15624]

13 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

Lol are they just recording a practice? What am I watching?

Yeah, except the cameramen took great care to never show anything football related.  When they did, they would zoom in so tight you had no idea what was happening.  I fast forwarded through half of it and gave up.

[DougO 5239]

They used to air the blue white games pretty often, back when they were going to Superbowl and stuff. I guess they don't want to go to Superbowls any more.

I'm one of the minority that used to love watching preseason games, for what they were for. I never missed them.  I enjoyed seeing the younger players fighting for jobs, the roster deadline drama, and just seeing favorite college or locally known players that may be getting some short-term NFL-ish glory.

 

[Gene Parmesan 3993]

2 minutes ago, DougO said:

They used to air the blue white games pretty often, back when they were going to Superbowl and stuff. I guess they don't want to go to Superbowls any more.

I'm one of the minority that used to love watching preseason games, for what they were for. I never missed them.  I enjoyed seeing the younger players fighting for jobs, the roster deadline drama, and just seeing favorite college or locally known players that may be getting some short-term NFL-ish glory.

 

Yeah I'm in the same boat.  I understand the criticism against preseason games as far as starters go, and they don't make for good casual sports viewing, but they still have benefits for the back half of the roster.

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

4 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I respect it. I think this is mike McCarthy realizing he had no choice but to televise this practice (Don’t know thee behind the scenes stuff on that one) so he’s just doing whatever he can to maintain a competitive advantage. All that tells me is he thinks about shit like that, and I think that’s probably more than we would say about ginger. Garrett would just say we have better talent and it doesn’t matter if they know exactly what we’re running.

Looks like there was something to that. I’ll say it again, whether it matters even a little bit, no chance Garrett does this

 

[Hermanator 6933]

So they have a coach who found a way to side step Jerry Jones stupidity? Maybe they have a chance to win more than a wild card game 

[Drew 2331]

4 hours ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I respect it. I think this is mike McCarthy realizing he had no choice but to televise this practice (Don’t know thee behind the scenes stuff on that one) so he’s just doing whatever he can to maintain a competitive advantage. All that tells me is he thinks about shit like that, and I think that’s probably more than we would say about ginger. Garrett would just say we have better talent and it doesn’t matter if they know exactly what we’re running.

Exactly.  This was proof Mike McCarthy, at least so far, has a LOT of pull to be able to pull this off.

11 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

So they have a coach who found a way to side step Jerry Jones stupidity? Maybe they have a chance to win more than a wild card game 

Yep.  This isn't Wade or Garrett anymore.

 

I understand why people are upset, I tuned in for the first little bit too before I realized what happened...but you can't fault the Network for that.

[Guest]

12 hours ago, Hermanator said:

So they have a coach who found a way to side step Jerry Jones stupidity? Maybe they have a chance to win more than a wild card game 

he better have some circa 1993 Emmitt Smith agility...

[Vic Mackey 46932]

Witten on Garrett in NY. Lulz. So much bullshit fluff. But no surprises coming from Witten. He had it made under Garrett.

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Jason Witten spent 12 seasons when Jason Garrett was either his offensive coordinator or head coach, so he is the right man to deliver a message about the man for Giants fans.

“You’re gonna be really proud to have him as your offensive coordinator,” Witten told The Post.

“He’s one of them — hard-working, determined, lunch-pail-type guy, brings it every day. Don’t be fooled because he’s an Ivy Leaguer. He is very fair, very honest, a man of integrity, and he’s gonna find ways to affect the defense within his scheme, and play to his players’ strengths over and over and over again.

“It’ll be a real exciting experience for him. So much comes across a desk of a head coach, that you get pulled away from football a lot of times. I was around there for a number of years and I experienced him as a coordinator early on with Wade Phillips [as the head coach]. I have so many fond memories of his ability within the scheme and adjustments in the game plan to give us a lot of confidence and allowed us to have success as a group.”

Witten is a Raider now, but he will one day enter the Hall of Fame as a Cowboy. During those 12 seasons, Witten caught 963 passes and 45 TDs. He caught most of them from Tony Romo and Dak Prescott — which tells him that Garrett and his system will be a bonanza for Daniel Jones.

“It’s built for the quarterback’s eyes, that system,” Witten said. “And I think any young quarterback likes the fact that this system is something that Jason played in, and then he’s seen a lot of quarterbacks have success in that. And then, just the track record, he had Tony in ’07, which Tony had started nine, 10 games prior to that, and went on and had a really successful career. He took Dak Prescott as a rookie, and you saw what Dak has done in his first four years in the NFL, so for Daniel Jones, I think he would be ecstatic

“That’s all you can ask for as a player is that your coach is doing everything that he possibly can to put you in the best situation you can be in, and I think that’s ultimately what Jason does. He does it with the system, but he also does it within game of, ‘OK this is what they’re doing, how do we combat that, what adjustments are we gonna make?’ I think that’ll help Daniel tremendously.”

Garrett won’t have the formidable offensive line that he had in Dallas, but that won’t stop him from riding Saquon Barkley the way he rode Ezekiel Elliott.

“Jason had a little bit of success as a play-caller early on when our offensive line wasn’t full of first-rounders,” Witten said. “I think he’s gonna find ways to get him in space, get him downhill, and I think the other thing for Saquon is just as a receiver, he’s gonna find ways to get him the ball in open space through the passing game that will obviously play to his strengths because he’s such a dynamic athlete in open space. The rare combination of being able to putting him between the tackles, getting on the perimeter, misdirection runs, all that. I think the biggest thing is just finding ways to use him in the passing game to get him the ball in open space will be the biggest area that Saquon will benefit from having a play-caller like Jason.”

In his 2018 rookie season, Barkley rushed 261 times (for 1,307 yards) and caught 91 passes. Elliott has exceeded 300 carries in three of his four years and caught a career-high 77 passes in 2018.

“He wants to run the football, and he believes in the play-action game that comes off of that,” Witten said. “His system is not one that’s just gonna be a new scheme every week. It’s gonna be the fundamentals and the techniques — let’s get really good at these handful of things, and then impose that week in and week out by dressing it up and doing different things. I think he’s got a really good feel of ‘OK, this was our plan, and now we’re seeing something different,’ and adjusting in-game.

“And to me as a veteran player, that’s the main thing you look for in a play-caller, his ability to kinda adjust to what the defense is trying to do. And your ability to get to that, before the end of the half or before the end of the game and not wait till the next day and say, ‘Ah well, if we knew they were gonna do this, we would have done that.’ And I think within his numbered system offense, it allows you to move a lot of different guys around because once you learn the number system you can kinda play anywhere in the offense.”

Of course this can be a career year for tight end Evan Engram if he can stay healthy.

“Evan’s an extremely talented player, and I can tell you from playing in that system they’re gonna get the playmakers the football, and find a number of different ways to do that,” Witten said. “First off, it starts with when you want to run the football, the numer one thing that comes off of that is the play-action passing game. And for a tight end, that’s the No. 1 thing, because a lot of times when you do play-action, it doesn’t really affect the corners on the outside, it really affects the linebackers in the underneath coverage. And that’s really where the tight end kinda makes his hay, and so I think that’ll be really exciting for him.

“And then his ability to move him around, and play a number of different positions, will allow him to get a lot of different looks and to feature his playmaking ability. Last year [Cowboys TE] Blake Jarwin and some of those guys really shined just from the ability to move you around, having a strong running game, I think the tight end benefits tremendously from that style of offense.”

Garrett will be an invaluable resource for Joe Judge.“He’s a really good person, his character is such that he’s gonna communicate that way and be a sounding board for the head coach, not trying to be the head coach,” Witten said. “I think he’s just got a really good way about him from that standpoint of he’s been a backup quarterback, he’s been an offensive coordinator before. He’s seen a lot, and he has a good way of being able to communicate that in the right tone, in the right way to a young head coach. If you take the idea and you run with it, great. If you take it and you don’t do it, his feelings not gonna be hurt, or anything from that standpoint.

“He communicates in a good way that a lot of the what-ifs, and how do you handle certain situations? Which I think Joe’s done a really good job of that being a young head coach walking into a situation of a pandemic and how you do that with a young football team. Everything that I’ve seen, he’s got a plan and he’s a bright person, but I’m sure there’s been times, and there will be over the course of a season, that he can lean on Jason.”

Garrett will never go into a game and not feel prepared.

“He takes a lot of pride in everybody being on the same page, there’s a saying he had — ‘If we’re all wrong, we’re all right,’ meaning like as long as we’re communicating it, we’re gonna be able to execute, but we can’t be doing our own thing,” Witten said. “I think that’s where that system really thrives, I think his ability to kinda communicate that so you go into the game and you have a lot of confidence that you’re gonna attack the weaknesses of the defense, and when you have success, it just continues to build from there.”

The Giants have been all wrong for too long. This time, Jason Witten believes they got it all right.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/jason-witten-jason-garrett-will-be-tremendous-help-giants-daniel-jones/

[Trey3216 15325]

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

Witten on Garrett in NY. Lulz. So much bullshit fluff. But no surprises coming from Witten. He had it made under Garrett.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/31/jason-witten-jason-garrett-will-be-tremendous-help-giants-daniel-jones/

Edited September 2, 2020 by Trey3216

[DougO 5239]

Witten was so high on Jarwin he made sure he hardly ever took the field.

[kegman 187]

Looks like Clinton-Dix just got cut

 

 

[jeevsie 3720]

He's right.

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/nfl-dallas-cowboys-cutdown-tracker-no-joke-ha-ha-clinton-dix-released

[Sgt Hulk 13645]

Dix cut.  That’s odd i thought he was good.  What type of meltdown will this thread have if the fucking giants go hard into the playoffs or super bowl with gareett

[jeevsie 3720]

Also, cue the ET talk again.

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

6 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Dix cut.  That’s odd i thought he was good.  What type of meltdown will this thread have if the fucking giants go hard into the playoffs or super bowl with gareett

The new coaching staff really likes Darian Thompson apparently, and they wanted to keep Donovan Wilson to see if he can develop. Not that surprising if you’ve been following training camp.

[Surly Bevo 24696]

[LTtxfan 48962]

Maybe the Cowboys sign Earl  Thomas after game 1, to avoid gtys required for players on opening day roster ??

 

Edited September 3, 2020 by LTtxfan

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

This story just won’t go away. Jesus fucking Christ. Either sign him or say we aren’t interested at all. 
 

 

[Surly Bevo 24696]

3 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

This story just won’t go away. Jesus fucking Christ. Either sign him or say we aren’t interested at all. 
 

 

And you think you can be Jerry's latex salesman....

[LTtxfan 48962]

57 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

This story just won’t go away. Jesus fucking Christ. Either sign him or say we aren’t interested at all. 
 

 

Wait till after game one to sign ET... better financially for Cowboys.

[jeevsie 3720]

I say we sign him after the first game.  Idea just came to me out of the blue.

[futureman 22414]

4 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

What type of meltdown will this thread have if the fucking giants go hard into the playoffs or super bowl with gareett

they will.  garrett will flourish up there now that he has a quarterback again. 

[Radical Larry 28528]

Let’s see how long this lasts.

[LTtxfan 48962]

 

[futureman 22414]

39 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

 

 

 

Let’s see how long this lasts.

 

 

super bowl, bitch.  even dak can’t stop this team. 

[Viper 12025]

Carr was always solid here, just overpaid. 

Edited September 4, 2020 by Viper

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

Carr is a saftey now, no?