Big Green Egg & Other Ceramic Grills All Encompassing Thread

[baboso 6037]

13 hours ago, Baboontyme said:

Sounds similar to what I've mentioned on pages way back in the thread. I'm sure the water pan helps but I think there's something to the theory about the heat coming in on the side of the plate setter, as well. Obviously would be more of an issue on an 18.5" like my Primo where a brisket basically touches the lid on both sides at the start vs a bigger one. I'd be curious to hear from those that have never had this problem what size ceramic they have. I also wonder if the fire is just too close to the plate setter. Maybe a half fill would work better. 

I'm not exactly buying briskets left and right to cook for people these days, perhaps in non pandemic times I'll do some experimenting. Next brisket I cook, however, I will be going back to the WSM. 

So, you have a Primo, a WSM, and the stick burner trailer?  Good to have options.

[Sam Lin 3535]

10 hours ago, Mortimer said:

I usually try to cook to 203. 

This is a red flag for me. You need to start probing tender around 195 every 15min or so. Each will finish at a different temp, Prime usually finishes lower. You might just be overcooking every time.

[Lurch 5916]

I keep hearing about these magic briskets that finish sub 200, but I’ve yet to actually see one. Butter probe tends to appear in the 200-203* range quite consistently for me (almost always Prime from Costco) and even then I’m only pulling when the whole thing is done, so some sections are 204-206 by the time I pull and I don’t recall ever thinking those sections were over cooked

[CycleTex87 2945]

Did the pork belly burnt ends yesterday.  No pics.  I basically followed the John Setzler method.  The cook went fine.  Two things I would change next time:  (1) Leave the foil off longer at the end to get some actual bark on the chunks, and (2) come up with a good sauce for the final mix.  I won't tell you what I used, as it may provoke ridicule.

[Jerry Callo 8631]

2 hours ago, CycleTex87 said:

Did the pork belly burnt ends yesterday.  No pics.  I basically followed the John Setzler method.  The cook went fine.  Two things I would change next time:  (1) Leave the foil off longer at the end to get some actual bark on the chunks, and (2) come up with a good sauce for the final mix.  I won't tell you what I used, as it may provoke ridicule.

I've used various barbecue sauces to finish as well as butter, brown sugar, and honey.  Butter, brown sugar, and honey is awesome.  While the basic rib rub that I use on the chunks tastes great, I am going to experiment with a rub with more heat. 

[C-Man 26734]

I've been using the BGE like crazy lately. Need to pick up some additional toys for it. Thinking a rack extender or foldable grill grate for adding wood chunks, or perhaps a cast-iron griddle. Suggestions? I've already got the butane, cordless lighter, CyberQ fan/probes, Kick Ash basket and rain cap.

[CycleTex87 2945]

46 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said:

I've used various barbecue sauces to finish as well as butter, brown sugar, and honey.  Butter, brown sugar, and honey is awesome.  While the basic rib rub that I use on the chunks tastes great, I am going to experiment with a rub with more heat. 

I used the Pryles Hard Core Carnivore Red, and didn't think it imparted much flavor, honestly.  I really thought about adding some black pepper but didn't.  Maybe I needed to use more of the rub in the first place.  The meat itself is awesome.

[BillyMadison 7]

Just got a BGE a few weeks ago- did steaks for the first time tonight.

Did reverse sear, interior of the steak was perfect medium rare, but still not getting the sear I was hoping for. 

Let the steak sit in the fridge dry brining for a couple of hours before the cook. Let it get up to about 550 before putting vegetable oil on the steak and throwing it back on to sear. Basically followed the recipe on amazingribs.com
 

Amy ideas on what else to do to get a good sear? Might need to find a way to get a skillet on there to sear 

[DDD Dad 14076]

Just got a BGE a few weeks ago- did steaks for the first time tonight.
Did reverse sear, interior of the steak was perfect medium rare, but still not getting the sear I was hoping for. 
Let the steak sit in the fridge dry brining for a couple of hours before the cook. Let it get up to about 550 before putting vegetable oil on the steak and throwing it back on to sear. Basically followed the recipe on amazingribs.com
 
Amy ideas on what else to do to get a good sear? Might need to find a way to get a skillet on there to sear 

You could get the grates to let you cook cowboy style, right on top of the coals.

Or just get the fire super hot before searing. Issue is how to finish if you don’t want black and blue.

[Sam Lin 3535]

I put a cast iron skillet or griddle pan on top of my grates sometimes, and let the iron really get hot for a couple minutes (this is key, you're using the heat capacity of the iron to help you sear), before dropping the steak on for sear. Also, if you're after a really good crust, try a mayo sear.

Horrid phone flash photo, pan sear on a Jr size kamado:

[pops 6959]

1 hour ago, BillyMadison said:

Just got a BGE a few weeks ago- did steaks for the first time tonight.

Did reverse sear, interior of the steak was perfect medium rare, but still not getting the sear I was hoping for. 

Let the steak sit in the fridge dry brining for a couple of hours before the cook. Let it get up to about 550 before putting vegetable oil on the steak and throwing it back on to sear. Basically followed the recipe on amazingribs.com
 

Amy ideas on what else to do to get a good sear? Might need to find a way to get a skillet on there to sear 

You will never get much of a sear on grates. Put a cast iron in there when you crank up the heat and let the steak rest while it gets hot after the reverse sear. Little oil and butter in the cast iron right before you drop the steak back in. Maybe 90 seconds a side and you're done. 

[BillyMadison 7]

On 8/9/2020 at 11:30 PM, pops said:

You will never get much of a sear on grates. Put a cast iron in there when you crank up the heat and let the steak rest while it gets hot after the reverse sear. Little oil and butter in the cast iron right before you drop the steak back in. Maybe 90 seconds a side and you're done. 

 

On 8/9/2020 at 10:17 PM, DDD Dad said:

You could get the grates to let you cook cowboy style, right on top of the coals.

Or just get the fire super hot before searing. Issue is how to finish if you don’t want black and blue.

 

On 8/9/2020 at 11:08 PM, Sam Lin said:

I put a cast iron skillet or griddle pan on top of my grates sometimes, and let the iron really get hot for a couple minutes (this is key, you're using the heat capacity of the iron to help you sear), before dropping the steak on for sear. Also, if you're after a really good crust, try a mayo sear.

Horrid phone flash photo, pan sear on a Jr size kamado:

Awesome - thanks for the replies. Will probably go cast iron next go round.

[Landomatic 3813]

On 8/3/2020 at 1:31 PM, C-Man said:

I've been using the BGE like crazy lately. Need to pick up some additional toys for it.

Check your front porch 😂

[Sam Lin 3535]

Actually used all my cooking surface yesterday. Enjoyed having multiple heat zones ready.

[Buzzrock 14785]

You will never get much of a sear on grates. Put a cast iron in there when you crank up the heat and let the steak rest while it gets hot after the reverse sear. Little oil and butter in the cast iron right before you drop the steak back in. Maybe 90 seconds a side and you're done. 

I’ve had my egg for 14 years and this is the answer. The wife likes the pretty grill marks so sometimes I do steaks on the grate, but nothing sears like cast iron.

[Spankytoes 1787]

The maiden voyage

[Spankytoes 1787]

I've been using the BGE like crazy lately. Need to pick up some additional toys for it. Thinking a rack extender or foldable grill grate for adding wood chunks, or perhaps a cast-iron griddle. Suggestions? I've already got the butane, cordless lighter, CyberQ fan/probes, Kick Ash basket and rain cap.

The packages keep coming

[Sam Lin 3535]

Make sure that's a gen2 iKamand. The gen1 is a totally untrustworthy piece of shit. And you can see the suggestions earlier in the thread for cotton balls dipped in rubbing alcohol as firestarters, if you don't want to run the extension cord for the Looftlighter.

[Chewbacca 7625]

Broke my BGE damper top into about a dozen pieces when pulling off the cover last night. Any recs on the best replacement? Or should i just buy another?

[Sam Lin 3535]

Smokeware gets mentioned a lot by the Kamado Joe groups. Stainless, conical top, does look good.

[BigDHornfan 6512]

Definitely recommend the Smokeware cap

[CycleTex87 2945]

On 8/15/2020 at 8:50 PM, Spankytoes said:

The maiden voyage

That’s my setup as well.  Love it. 

[CycleTex87 2945]

49 minutes ago, BigDHornfan said:

Definitely recommend the Smokeware cap

This

[Chewbacca 7625]

Definitely recommend the Smokeware cap

Just ordered it.

[Chewbacca 7625]

On 9/13/2020 at 2:04 PM, BigDHornfan said:

Definitely recommend the Smokeware cap

Gotta love Amazon.  Just got the Smokeware and put it on.  Feels well made.  

[CycleTex87 2945]

52 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Gotta love Amazon.  Just got the Smokeware and put it on.  Feels well made.  

My deal with the original Kamado Joe smoke cap was it was initially hard to turn, got a little easier after the first couple of cooks, then as grease and smoke built up on it, it got impossible to turn, especially when hot.  The Smokeware cap is the perfect solution, so far.  I’ve used it three or four times. 

[Sam Lin 3535]

Which original KJ cap are you referring to, the gen1 daisy wheel or the gen2/3 Kontrol Tower? The Kontrol Tower is kind of lousy, I'm still a huge fan of the gen1 daisy wheel. The Smokeware will also gum up over time, just slower.

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

On 7/7/2020 at 2:11 PM, Dry Elbows said:

@crimsonlonghorn have you tried using a BBQ guru on your BGE to hold temp?

 

 

On 7/7/2020 at 7:54 PM, DDD Dad said:

It will change your life.

That and a couple of other add ones that are posted up thread will enhance your enjoyment and ease your cooks.

 

Got a CyberQ after my Labor Day brisket went to shit due to fluctuating temperatures. Using it today for the first time to do a pork butt and it's amazing how steady the temp is holding. Will report back after we eat tonight but my guess already is that it will be tasty. My only complaint is that the wifi signal doesn't make it all the way to that part of the yard so I have to go into the kitchen and get close and use bluetooth. Guess this means I need to upgrade to a mesh wifi system now. 

 

Edited September 17, 2020 by crimsonlonghorn

[HouTex 1838]

I’m curious why some BGEs have fluctuating temps. Mine holds very steady over a 9+ hour smoke. It might go lower by 10 degrees over several hours but I’ve never seen a large spike. I’ve had small spikes when the water gets low in my drip pan. If I leave to play golf, or whatever, I just make sure there’s plenty of water in the pan before I leave.

[Chewbacca 7625]

I’m curious why some BGEs have fluctuating temps. Mine holds very steady over a 9+ hour smoke. It might go lower by 10 degrees over several hours but I’ve never seen a large spike. I’ve had small spikes when the water gets low in my drip pan. If I leave to play golf, or whatever, I just make sure there’s plenty of water in the pan before I leave.

It's either air flow or fuel.

 

I did pulled pork last weekend. Egg was at 250 when i went to bed at midnight, and it was still there when i pulled them to wrap at noon. But i usually clean it out before a long cook. Ash can do funny things.

 

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

1 hour ago, HouTex said:

I’m curious why some BGEs have fluctuating temps. Mine holds very steady over a 9+ hour smoke. It might go lower by 10 degrees over several hours but I’ve never seen a large spike. I’ve had small spikes when the water gets low in my drip pan. If I leave to play golf, or whatever, I just make sure there’s plenty of water in the pan before I leave.

For me it's just inexperience and user error. 

The problem on Labor Day was that I lit too much charcoal at the start and wasn't patient enough to let it heat up slowly. Then it got too hot and then I was constantly opening and closing vents all day trying to get it to get it right and ended up ruining the meat.

This morning I just lit the charcoal in one spot with my propane torch and then followed the directions and let the computer and the fan bring it up to temp slowly. It has been steady now between 250 and 255 for 6 hours straight. 

[Lurch 5916]

I think the kick ash basket improved my primos temp stability. As long as I don’t overshoot when getting to temp, it’s completely a non-issue for me now.

[Tailgate 2980]

Anyone use a rottiserie system on their Big Green Egg they can recommend? I am really haoppy with the system on my gas grill but need to try it on charcoal.

 

[Wasting Billables 0]

Also having issues with temperature stability. (I have a kick ash basket.) Does it make a difference when lighting the lump to leave the lid and vents open to get a full inferno then close up and set the vents, or waiting for small flames and then close lid and set the vents to where you want? 

[CooterBrown 17760]

Been burning the Kamado Joe lump lately and that stuff is great. Thin blue smoke within minutes of lighting. It does take longer to get the egg up to temp and requires the air vents to be open much more than B&B or Cowboy lump. Very little ash left over also.

[pops 6959]

1 hour ago, Wasting Billables said:

Also having issues with temperature stability. (I have a kick ash basket.) Does it make a difference when lighting the lump to leave the lid and vents open to get a full inferno then close up and set the vents, or waiting for small flames and then close lid and set the vents to where you want? 

I always run wide open until about 50 degrees short of target temp then close shit down. 

[Sam Lin 3535]

3 hours ago, Wasting Billables said:

Also having issues with temperature stability. (I have a kick ash basket.) Does it make a difference when lighting the lump to leave the lid and vents open to get a full inferno then close up and set the vents, or waiting for small flames and then close lid and set the vents to where you want? 

Recommend not going for full inferno before closing down. The thermal mass of ceramics plus coals makes it very slow to lower the temp. As mentioned, set your vents 50-100 under target temp.

[Lurch 5916]

I leave lid open about 10 mins, then close lid but leave top and bottom vents full open. Shut both to halfway about 50* short. Then to my target vent positions about 15* short. This is when I briefly open to throw in wood chunks and get final plate in place. After nasty smoke clears I put on meat and expect temp to be below target for 30 mins or so. Only then do I fine tune vents if needed. Within 30 mins I’m pretty locked in and it won’t move much at all

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

Pork butt finally came off the BGE around 11:00 last night. 18 hours total cook time. Had a tiny sample before bed and will pull it later this morning. Sandwiches for dinner tonight. 

Holy shit it turned out tender with the consistent temperature from the CyberQ. Great bark, too.   

[Lurch 5916]

Got a boneless shoulder pork butt from Costco...

Suggestions? I’ve only done brisket and ribs so far

[Chewbacca 7625]

Got a boneless shoulder pork butt from Costco...

Suggestions? I’ve only done brisket and ribs so far

Smoke it and eat it?

[Lurch 5916]

Going w this Reed video. Suggestions on rub?

[Chewbacca 7625]

Going w this Reed video. Suggestions on rub?

Salt, pepper, garlic powder, paprika is what i do. You can throw in some brown sugar if you keep your temps low enough that it won't burn.

[Chewbacca 7625]

And Franklin's sauce is money. The vinegar/ ketchup one.

[Chewbacca 7625]

And since it's from Costco, i always cook both in the package. It freezes really well after you pull it.

[DDD Dad 14076]

Got a boneless shoulder pork butt from Costco...

Suggestions? I’ve only done brisket and ribs so far

Make pork steaks like Tootsie at Snow’s.

[CooterBrown 17760]

Make pork steaks like Tootsie at Snow’s.

Yep. It’s the best way to cook a pork butt. Pulled pork is always underwhelming.

[Chewbacca 7625]

Yep. It’s the best way to cook a pork butt. Pulled pork is always underwhelming.

Maybe you've never had it done right?

[Jerry Callo 8631]

12 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

And since it's from Costco, i always cook both in the package. It freezes really well after you pull it.

This.  I packed left over cooked pork butt in 1# vacuum sealed packages.  Use them later for pulled pork sandwiches, carnitas tacos or nachos, green chili pork stew, pork fried rice . . .

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

Pulled the pork butt last night and served it on Hawaiian buns with cole slaw and the Franklin vinegar sauce. Goddam that was some good eating.

My 13 YO son ate three sandwiches after football practice. 

My only complaint was that it was a tiny bit dry, even with the water pan. I probably need to mop it more than I did? But once you put the sauce on it, it was great.