Fuck This Decade: Texas vs. #11 Utah 6:30 on ESPN

[Chopper 17230]

Utes should've finished the game with 3 points. Their TD was not a catch and should've been reviewed but it was already a blowout so nobody cared.

[dcar00 14181]

1 hour ago, jw4381 said:

 

Wtf wasn’t he on the field more? Dude kicked ass. 

my guess is he isn't fast enough to blitz from 10 yards off the ball or cover  slot 30 yards down the field.

[USNALonghorn 5078]

1 minute ago, Chopper said:

Utes should've finished the game with 3 points. Their TD was not a catch and should've been reviewed but it was already a blowout so nobody cared.

Not only was that not a catch, but it also occurred after the refs gifted them a free 4th down conversion on the bullshit helmet penalty.

[TrashMaster G 17552]

Just now, USNALonghorn said:

Not only was that not a catch, but it also occurred after the refs gifted them a free 4th down conversion on the bullshit helmet penalty.

The call was annoying, but correct to the rules.

[dcar00 14181]

3 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Utes should've finished the game with 3 points. Their TD was not a catch and should've been reviewed but it was already a blowout so nobody cared.

this.  I am getting tired of plays not being reviewed for us.  everyone complains that TH should take a TO.  He shouldn't have to.  that play needed to be reviewed from the jump. potentially game changing and ESPECIALLY after that BS helmet foul gave them the ball.

[mdmost 43001]

I love that everyone thought Utah was just going to kick our ass with their great defense. Instead it was the Texas defense that did the ass kicking. I know we’re all still raw from the disappointment of this season but man we really needed yesterday. That’s some much needed momentum going into next season.

[taybo20 2825]

7 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

my guess is he isn't fast enough to blitz from 10 yards off the ball or cover  slot 30 yards down the field.

Haha! But seriously speaks to Orlando’s inability or just outright refusal to use the players you have and put them in the best position to make plays and use their ability

[dcar00 14181]

10 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Yeah, unfortunately we rarely face these more traditional offenses in the B12.  

what TH found out this year is that there is some damn good coaching in the B12 and he thought he could get away with his brain and a bunch of G5/strip club buddies.

  I think Klieman is going to be a problem.  I could see him and Campbell getting plucked by some Big 10 teams in the next 2 or 3 years.

we really need Herman to be all over the refs at OU.  they got called for OL holding 5 times against LSU. that never happens with B12 refs.

we are about at late Mack levels so hopefully it can be up from here.

[dcar00 14181]

10 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

The call was annoying, but correct to the rules.

maybe it depends on the actual wording.  he never got involved in the play after his helmet came off.  IMO, If they are going to say a player has to stop in place and take himself out of the play then that penalty needs to be reviewable to see what caused the helmet to come off.  the OL caused the "safety issue" to occur.  he is the one that should be penalized.

[TrashMaster G 17552]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

maybe it depends on the actual wording.  he never got involved in the play after his helmet came off.  IMO, If they are going to say a player has to stop in place and take himself out of the play then that penalty needs to be reviewable to see what caused the helmet to come off.  the OL caused the "safety issue" to occur.  he is the one that should be penalized.

I don't disagree that there are problems with the rule.  I'm just saying it was correctly applied.

[Surly Bevo 24908]

Yea the rule is horseshit, a defensive player in particular just stopping and standing there with guys who are actively looking to block anything they can does NOT promote safety.

[TwiceHorn 31452]

13 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

what TH found out this year is that there is some damn good coaching in the B12 and he thought he could get away with his brain and a bunch of G5/strip club buddies.

  I think Klieman is going to be a problem.  I could see him and Campbell getting plucked by some Big 10 teams in the next 2 or 3 years.

we really need Herman to be all over the refs at OU.  they got called for OL holding 5 times against LSU. that never happens with B12 refs.

we are about at late Mack levels so hopefully it can be up from here.

He should have known from his tenure at ISU, although the coaching has stepped up a bit since then.

I kind of think that his tenure at tOSU created a lot of this arrogance. 

Edited January 1, 2020 by TwiceHorn
Sense then? Wtf? Wtff?

[sith_horn 2388]

4 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I think Klieman is going to be a problem.  I could see him and Campbell getting plucked by some Big 10 teams in the next 2 or 3 years.

Watching Iowa St. vs Notre Dame I wondered how committed Campbell is to building Iowa St. vs realizing the talent ceiling he'll have to live with for doing so. The difference in talent on the field was stark. Same for Harsin at Boise St. facing Washington in Petersen's swan song performance.

[LTtxfan 49180]

1 minute ago, sith_horn said:

Watching Iowa St. vs Notre Dame I wondered how committed Campbell is to building Iowa St. vs realizing the talent ceiling he'll have to live with for doing so. The difference in talent on the field was stark. Same for Harsin at Boise St. facing Washington in Petersen's swan song performance.

Great point... Not sure that either should stay at Iowa State of Boise State much longer...

[Chopper 17230]

didn't notice this during the game and maybe 2 people on twitter commented on it

 

Edited January 1, 2020 by Chopper

[dcar00 14181]

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

He should have known from his tenure at ISU, although the coaching has stepped up a bit since then.

I kind of think that his tenure at tOSU created a lot of this arrogance. 

good point though I think it was a lot more the FSU and OU wins at UH.  of course, he conveniently forgot SMU and UConn.

[sith_horn 2388]

1 minute ago, Chopper said:

didn't notice this during the game and maybe 2 people on twitter commented on it

 

 

I remember that play. A BS call it would have been. Just another Texas ankle biter in the twitter-verse. The camera angle makes it look worse than it was.

[MIkeHoncho 1910]

27 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

maybe it depends on the actual wording.  he never got involved in the play after his helmet came off.  IMO, If they are going to say a player has to stop in place and take himself out of the play then that penalty needs to be reviewable to see what caused the helmet to come off.  the OL caused the "safety issue" to occur.  he is the one that should be penalized.

This.  Rule needs to be amended to penalize the player only if he initiates contact after his helmet comes off. 

[dcar00 14181]

14 minutes ago, Chopper said:

didn't notice this during the game and maybe 2 people on twitter commented on it

 

agree it could have been reviewed but the video is fuzzy.  he might have come over the top of him and hit with more shoulder.  Im against the targeting rule as they define it today.  to me it was put in for the main purpose of targeting receivers.  It needs to be clear and obvious that the defender lead with his head directly into the head of the opponent and the opponents late movement doesn't cause it.

I also don't think a shoulder pad to the head on a runner(not a receiver) should be called.

Edit: I also think you should have one freebie per team.  first one is a 15 yard penalty and a second one is 15 yard penalty and ejection.

Edited January 1, 2020 by dcar00

[dcar00 14181]

Just now, MIkeHoncho said:

This.  Rule needs to be amended to penalize the player only if he initiates contact after his helmet comes off. 

it would be nice if refs would use common sense.  that guy knew exactly what throwing that flag meant. Coburn did not affect the play in any way after his helmet came off.

[Patrick Bateman 3912]

2 hours ago, NowThis said:

looking at the video upthread, Utah's formations usually had only 1 or 2 WRs -- very old school so Texas was putting 7 or 8 defenders in the box allowing for physical domination.  Spreads with 3-5 WRs are a different animal.

This isn't true.  Their base offense is a 1-1.  1 RB, 1 TE usually flexed or slotted and 3 WRs.  Now, sometimes they'd go 1-2 with 2 TEs, usually flexed off the line.  They have a good TE group so they would use them in multiple groupings and as sort of big WRs too in the slot.  They rarely had 1 WR out there unless speciality play.  

[BurntOrange&White 39931]

didn't notice this during the game and maybe 2 people on twitter commented on it

 

I think at that point he’s a runner, not a defenseless player. I think they also need to call it both ways...how many times do you see runners lower their crown to initiate contact?

[dcar00 14181]

3 minutes ago, Bevo VIII said:

I think at that point he’s a runner, not a defenseless player. I think they also need to call it both ways...how many times do you see runners lower their crown to initiate contact?

Ha.  everyone needs to be coached to run like Eric Dickerson and practice bearhug tackling.

[Bigbend1812 12915]

that wasn’t targeting.  it was a trucking.

[Radical Larry 28588]

 

[hookem48 4687]

57 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

maybe it depends on the actual wording.  he never got involved in the play after his helmet came off.  IMO, If they are going to say a player has to stop in place and take himself out of the play then that penalty needs to be reviewable to see what caused the helmet to come off.  the OL caused the "safety issue" to occur.  he is the one that should be penalized.

he was within 2 yards of the tackle and pushed a Ute over the pile, he did exackly what the rule says you can't do. 

[campcrunk 2449]

5 hours ago, taybo20 said:

Truly impressed with Cort Jaquess tonight. The kid had 5 tackles and 1 solo. Was a walk-on that got on scholarship this year. And played some special teams but mostly was a scout teamer. That kid fucking balled out and showed great tackling skills. 

I actually came here to post this. He looked really good last night.

[hookem48 4687]

32 minutes ago, MIkeHoncho said:

This.  Rule needs to be amended to penalize the player only if he initiates contact after his helmet comes off. 

he did initiate contact, it's like no one here owns a DVR.

[JBJ 3654]

48 minutes ago, Chopper said:

didn't notice this during the game and maybe 2 people on twitter commented on it

No launch or other indicator, no defenseless player, no contact with crown.

This is about as far from targeting as possible.

Edited January 1, 2020 by JBJ

[GreenspointTexas 9600]

Wonder if Fillinger, Jordan, and Rising were there last night

 

hahahh just joking, we know Rising was there. 

[Pato del Muerto 52490]

8 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

he did initiate contact, it's like no one here owns a DVR.

A rule that turn 11v11 into 11v10 doesn’t work for me. Just make it so if anyone’s helmet comes off during the play it gets blown dead, like they do when the ball carrier loses his helmet. Then allow replay to look at why the helmet came off and assess penalties as needed. 

[MIkeHoncho 1910]

 

9 minutes ago, hookem48 said:

he did initiate contact, it's like no one here owns a DVR.

nope.  Watch the video here, helmet taken off at 24:12, play over at 24:16.  Coburn runs toward the play, but does not initiate any contact unless you want to count the little shove that occurred after the play was over.  

[NowThis 931]

58 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

This isn't true.  Their base offense is a 1-1.  1 RB, 1 TE usually flexed or slotted and 3 WRs.  Now, sometimes they'd go 1-2 with 2 TEs, usually flexed off the line.  They have a good TE group so they would use them in multiple groupings and as sort of big WRs too in the slot.  They rarely had 1 WR out there unless speciality play.  

i didn't see 3 WRs much, mostly 1 and 2 wides.

[Paul Wesley 3278]

I hadn't seen the replay of the "touchdown" catch.  

That was 100% not a catch.  Easily meets definition of "irrefutable video evidence."

[JBJ 3654]

7 hours ago, EuroHorn said:

Had to miss most of the game.  From what little I saw the defense looked really solid.  
 

What were the main differences?  Looked like we stopped doing delayed blitzes and instead put a lot of pressure on the qb 

We played single-high most the game.  That itself pretty much changes everything from two-high.

[El Squared 1802]

19 hours ago, Deej said:

What was Orlando doing all year?

Collecting $1.7 mil and cornholing potatoes 

[El Squared 1802]

19 hours ago, immamac said:

Shoes soaked in juice

Flubber 

[El Squared 1802]

19 hours ago, DoneWithit said:

Didn’t see Epps all night till the very end. 

When it was safe to shed some points I guess.

[El Squared 1802]

10 hours ago, Casual Encounter said:

It took him getting benched again before he started playing well. At the beginning of the game he looked terrible. He only seems to play well when his pissed off. The team captains need to make a habit of ensuring he’s angry before each game. 

DKR would agree...

[Enchubben 5510]

Local Utah fan here. The UT fans were by far the most gracious and welcoming fan base I’ve ever come across. I got lost on the river walk multiple times and was escorted to safety and the stadium by Texas fans.  They offered me food, drinks and after the game were polite and wished us safe travels.  Even though we ran out of time for the comeback, can’t wait to come back to Texas to visit more longhorns. 

[GreenspointTexas 9600]

Just now, Enchubben said:

Local Utah fan here. The UT fans were by far the most gracious and welcoming fan base I’ve ever come across. I got lost on the river walk multiple times and was escorted to safety and the stadium by Texas fans.  They offered me food, drinks and after the game were polite and wished us safe travels.  Even though we ran out of time for the comeback, can’t wait to come back to Texas to visit more longhorns. 

You should start a thread about your experience

[Surly Bevo 24908]

Yea. That’s trying too hard right there.

[Lhorn 4913]

4 hours ago, MIkeHoncho said:

 

nope.  Watch the video here, helmet taken off at 24:12, play over at 24:16.  Coburn runs toward the play, but does not initiate any contact unless you want to count the little shove that occurred after the play was over.  

Thanks for posting.  That's how I remembered it.  He was no where near contact in the time his helmet is off although he certainly could have been if the play lasted a couple of more seconds.

I ask, what's the difference between what he did and the other 99.8% of the time a guy loses his helmet and ends up not getting called for a penalty?  Nothing.  I guess you're supposed the lay on the ground and shield your head of wave your hand to signify you give up, but it never happens.  Guys who lose their helmet ALWAY continue is some fashion, pushing, moving to the ball, running.  I don't disagree with the intent of the rule, just that he did nothing to warrant a penalty for something that happens several times per game but doesn't get called.  

 

Anyway, great way to end a disappointing season.  Worked out great, being matched up against a much higher ranked team and dominating.  Hopefully gives guys who are considering the portal and guys not yet signed a glimpse of what the program can be under better leadership/coaching.  So happy to see the defense and especially the DL kill it last night.  I am more than ready to see Texas play fucking defense again.   

[Lhorn 4913]

7 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Local Utah fan here. The UT fans were by far the most gracious and welcoming fan base I’ve ever come across. I got lost on the river walk multiple times and was escorted to safety and the stadium by Texas fans.  They offered me food, drinks and after the game were polite and wished us safe travels.  Even though we ran out of time for the comeback, can’t wait to come back to Texas to visit more longhorns. 

Didn't call us the greatest fans in college football you damn ingrate.  Shoulda kicked your ass in the river, ate your dog and showered you with cokes all game long.  

[The Whistler 14]

how do you get lost on the river walk?

[TrashMaster G 17552]

12 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Yea. That’s trying too hard right there.

Look up.  Observe the joke passing overhead.

[Tx_2_Sc85 332]

Anybody got the video of the player passing out on the rollercoaster? Saw it this morning but can’t remember where. Tia

[Henry Hill 3156]

17 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Local Utah fan here. The UT fans were by far the most gracious and welcoming fan base I’ve ever come across. I got lost on the river walk multiple times and was escorted to safety and the stadium by Texas fans.  They offered me food, drinks and after the game were polite and wished us safe travels.  Even though we ran out of time for the comeback, can’t wait to come back to Texas to visit more longhorns. 

Put it on the wall.

[Armybrat 40833]

16 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Local Utah fan here. The UT fans were by far the most gracious and welcoming fan base I’ve ever come across. I got lost on the river walk multiple times and was escorted to safety and the stadium by Texas fans.  They offered me food, drinks and after the game were polite and wished us safe travels.  Even though we ran out of time for the comeback, can’t wait to come back to Texas to visit more longhorns. 

You forgot to add how you intend to encourage the enchubbettes to apply to aggy for their superior collegiate matriculation.

[Tx_2_Sc85 332]

4 minutes ago, Tx_2_Sc85 said:

Anybody got the video of the player passing out on the rollercoaster? Saw it this morning but can’t remember where. Tia

NM found it. Good shit right there

Edited January 2, 2020 by Tx_2_Sc85