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I just got back from a New Year’s Eve party that was hosted by hard core aggy couple. They had the Texas-Utah game on TV because I know they full well expected Texas to lose.  This became more apparen

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Local Utah fan here. The UT fans were by far the most gracious and welcoming fan base I’ve ever come across. I got lost on the river walk multiple times and was escorted to safety and the stadium by T

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20 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

Anybody got a clip of the jackass Utah d-lineman pulling that crap on Sam at the end of the 3rd quarter?  I have a Utah friend who is claiming there was nothing out of line.  Personally, I thought he should have been ejected.

And for fucks sake, he did that shit with his helmet off!

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44 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Local Utah fan here. The UT fans were by far the most gracious and welcoming fan base I’ve ever come across. I got lost on the river walk multiple times and was escorted to safety and the stadium by Texas fans.  They offered me food, drinks and after the game were polite and wished us safe travels.  Even though we ran out of time for the comeback, can’t wait to come back to Texas to visit more longhorns. 

Howdy! That’s good bull sir.

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1 hour ago, TrashMaster G said:

Anybody got a clip of the jackass Utah d-lineman pulling that crap on Sam at the end of the 3rd quarter?  I have a Utah friend who is claiming there was nothing out of line.  Personally, I thought he should have been ejected.

They showed it on replay.  I'm surprised he wasn't ejected.

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13 minutes ago, JBJ said:

They showed it on replay.  I'm surprised he wasn't ejected.

Didn't he go at Sam three times, and kick him? I was pretty drunk at that point and could be wrong. Oh, and 15 yard penalty should have been called for his helmet off.

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13 hours ago, Lhorn said:

Thanks for posting.  That's how I remembered it.  He was no where near contact in the time his helmet is off although he certainly could have been if the play lasted a couple of more seconds.

I ask, what's the difference between what he did and the other 99.8% of the time a guy loses his helmet and ends up not getting called for a penalty?  Nothing.  I guess you're supposed the lay on the ground and shield your head of wave your hand to signify you give up, but it never happens.  Guys who lose their helmet ALWAY continue is some fashion, pushing, moving to the ball, running.  I don't disagree with the intent of the rule, just that he did nothing to warrant a penalty for something that happens several times per game but doesn't get called.  

 

Anyway, great way to end a disappointing season.  Worked out great, being matched up against a much higher ranked team and dominating.  Hopefully gives guys who are considering the portal and guys not yet signed a glimpse of what the program can be under better leadership/coaching.  So happy to see the defense and especially the DL kill it last night.  I am more than ready to see Texas play fucking defense again.   

I think the rule has something about "pursuing" the play without a helmet. 

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9 hours ago, Lhorn said:

For those who know jack shit about gambling, this guy placed a $100k bet to win $37k if Utah simply wins by any margin? Easy money. What could go wrong?

 

What was the line on the game?

 

Utah was a 7 point favorite so numbnuts bought the 7 points only to still lose by 28

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10 hours ago, Deej said:

Didn't he go at Sam three times, and kick him? I was pretty drunk at that point and could be wrong. Oh, and 15 yard penalty should have been called for his helmet off.

I don't think he ever threw a punch or kick, but he shoved Sam back to the ground several times and was trying to start a fight.

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9 hours ago, Lhorn said:

For those who know jack shit about gambling, this guy placed a $100k bet to win $37k if Utah simply wins by any margin? Easy money. What could go wrong?

 

What was the line on the game?

 

That’s correct. UTAH just had to win for him to win. 

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12 hours ago, Deej said:

Didn't he go at Sam three times, and kick him? I was pretty drunk at that point and could be wrong. Oh, and 15 yard penalty should have been called for his helmet off.

Yes he did, and the ref was looking unobstructed right at it all from 5 yards away.

Goddamned dirty shits.

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22 minutes ago, JBJ said:

I don't think he ever threw a punch or kick, but he shoved Sam back to the ground several times and was trying to start a fight.

Yes, he gave Sam a kick near the end of his dirty tantrum. Very embarrassing for the Utes to have a POS  like that representing their school on national TV, not to mention that ref being exposed as either a blind man or a bribed motherfucker.

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9 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

O/U on where this win puts Texas in the final AP poll?  22.5?

last year we were the highest ranked 4 loss team.... so this year we will probably be the highest ranked 5 loss team.....

 

kinda like winning the NIT.... WE'RE #69!, WE'RE # 69!!!!!!

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13 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Rewatching now

@17:23

Joseph Ossai would've been kicked out of the game in the shit12 for that hit

 

I thought the same thing when I saw that. Enjoyed not worrying about targeting and random holds or non-holds on every other play. 

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All three teams looked pretty good. O was running better combinations of plays, including running from passing formations and vice-versa. D was a fucking revelation of the truth of our belief that our roster includes a helluva lot more talent than it's showed the last two seasons, and kicked serious ass.

I reserve the heavy-duty plaudits for ST, though, and particularly for the returners. Mighty fine. Mighty, mighty fine. Who gets credit for that?

Were there any Yurcich or Ash sightings?

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17 hours ago, The Whistler said:

how do you get lost on the river walk?

Hotel, overpriced mediocre Tex-mex, theme bar, gift shop, stone bridge and repeat in a circle for two miles. Love the River Walk but I could see how a newbie would get lost.

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1 minute ago, Goodman said:

They did. We got half distance to goal added to play.

Cool, thanks.  I don't recall, do refs have the authority to toss a player for egregious unsportsmanlike?  If so, this would have been a good candidate for that kind of action.

 

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2 minutes ago, Goodman said:

They did. We got half distance to goal added to play.

Shoulda been at least three fouls on that play: roughing the passer, targeting (even if helmetless), unsportsmanlike conduct... oh, and playing without a helmet. Oh, wait, then another unsportsmanlike conduct.

So penalty from the end of the play is  half the distance, then half the remaining distance, then half of that, and half of that. Um, and half of that, too. And finally, disqualification of the shitstain. And if the rules had any sign of testicular function, the disqualification would be without replacement - play a man short, let's see how that works for you.

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16 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Cool, thanks.  I don't recall, do refs have the authority to toss a player for egregious unsportsmanlike?  If so, this would have been a good candidate for that kind of action.

 

Saw a player get tossed from a game this week for a less egregious kick than that one.

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4 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

All morning XM84 "Full Ride," (which I normally love), was saying the same shit as last year.

Utah didn't want to be there because it wasn't a New Year's 6 bowl.

Lulz.  The idea that Utah has such lofty expectations is... laughable.  Take the loss, pussy.

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22 hours ago, NowThis said:

i didn't see 3 WRs much, mostly 1 and 2 wides.

They ran plenty of 3 wide.

16 hours ago, skeeter said:

 

I doubt he's a poor schmuck if he can throw down $100k on a football game. Either that, or he'll be swimming with the fishes soon.

1 hour ago, Zavala said:

lol did the guys not even wear those KD basketball cleats?

Almost every single player was wearing them...

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58 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

Shoulda been at least three fouls on that play: roughing the passer, targeting (even if helmetless), unsportsmanlike conduct... oh, and playing without a helmet. Oh, wait, then another unsportsmanlike conduct.

So penalty from the end of the play is  half the distance, then half the remaining distance, then half of that, and half of that. Um, and half of that, too. And finally, disqualification of the shitstain. And if the rules had any sign of testicular function, the disqualification would be without replacement - play a man short, let's see how that works for you.

Agree with most of this.  Interesting that ESPN didn't focus on the seriousness of the play.  I really think the player was trying to get thrown out of the game, because he was tired of getting beat all game long.  Should have been thrown out and should miss first half of first game next season if he is coming back. 

 

 

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One of the areas where Rugby Football and American Football agree is that it is a foul to tackle a player who does not have the ball. In the play under discussion, the defender can be excused for the first part, since Ehlinger did have the ball at first, but the entire rest of it is the very definition of egregious action: punching, hitting, kicking, and repeatedly knocking down the quarterback, who obviously does not have the ball anymore and is clearly not participating in the play.

Upon further review, defender is disqualified for the balance of this game and from any game following, until the end of next season.

 

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1 hour ago, utee94 said:

Wow, I missed this part of the game and haven't re-watched yet.  Did the refs call that dirty little Utah shitstain for anything?

It did take Sam actually standing up and getting shoved back down before the flag came out though.  Bravo?

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On 1/1/2020 at 8:25 AM, EuroHorn said:

Had to miss most of the game.  From what little I saw the defense looked really solid.  
 

What were the main differences?  Looked like we stopped doing delayed blitzes and instead put a lot of pressure on the qb 

Okay.  I finally went back and watched the game. 

We essentially ran three base defensive fronts:

1) The 3-3 Nickel Tite that we've been running all year.  Sometimes flexed out to Okie. Sometimes as a Stack.  Not much to see here.

2) A new, but somewhat anticipated, 4-2 Nickel Over.  I will call it an Over, but how we set the front interior defenders flipped from Over/Under in a fashion that wasn't apparent to me just by watching closely.  It's probably married to coverages in some fashion.  Roach and Ossai alway played wide DEs, so I'm calling it an Over.

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But here's the crown jewel, the Play #8, if you will:

3) A 5-3 Swarm Flex.  Whatever the opposite of modern, spread, Flyover Football defense is .... that's what this is.  The way it worked is Ojomo and Sweat would sub for a couple DBs.

It looks like this: Coburn at NT(1), Ojomo at SDT(3), Sweat at WDT(5), Graham at SDE (6i), ILBs play Under rules.  It's set to the boundary, so it's backwards, but the rules to this point are essentially the same as Under with Graham tucked in tight.  CBs follow the X and Z.  Sterns is Deep Safety.  Pretty sure it was exclusively Man-1, but you could get creative to mix in zones.

Here's the fun parts:

Roach at Whip (Down 8i) follows the (inline) Y-TE.  He's your 5th DL and usually WDE.

Ossai at Rover Safety/LB, yes you are reading that correctly, follows the (usually off) H-TE.   Play #1 he was lined up as a Boundary Corner isolated 1on1.  Play #2 he was Down 9 beside Graham. Against a FB set, he was Sam.  Against a wing, he was Up 9 next to Roach.  You get the picture, he moves around to keep unfair numbers in the box.  Think jumbo Kam Chancellor.

So this thing beat the shit out of Utah.  I guess Ossai wasn't seen as a mismatch for the Utah TEs because that was never threatened.  The interior pressure killed them. Roach, Graham, and Ossai could passively play contain and letting the DTs flush the pocket.  When you put 5 or 6 on the line, 1v1s are everywhere and that worked in our favor.  Against the run it works the same way with just too many big bodies trying to penetrate.  ILBs had a good game mopping up as well (shout out to Jacques).

I don't think it's repeatable with this personnel grouping against B12 competition but it was awesome for this game.

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In other notes, various pass-rush packages showed back up: Amoeba was back after not existing all season, Cowboy was back since LaTech/LSU, Buck was still in the rotation. Tite-Stack existed in short yardage when we didn't want to sub.

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TL/DR: The full 2018 playbook was back.  We added a preview of something close to what Ash might be installing.  And this year's Play #8 (and for me the key to the rout) was a super-jumbo version of an aggressive 90s defense.

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30 minutes ago, JBJ said:

Okay.  I finally went back and watched the game. 

We essentially ran three base defensive fronts:

1) The 3-3 Nickel Tite that we've been running all year.  Sometimes flexed out to Okie. Sometimes as a Stack.  Not much to see here.

2) A new, but somewhat anticipated, 4-2 Nickel Over.  I will call it an Over, but how we set the front interior defenders flipped from Over/Under in a fashion that wasn't apparent to me just by watching closely.  It's probably married to coverages in some fashion.  Roach and Ossai alway played wide DEs, so I'm calling it an Over.

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But here's the crown jewel, the Play #8, if you will:

3) A 5-3 Swarm Flex.  Whatever the opposite of modern, spread, Flyover Football defense is .... that's what this is.  The way it worked is Ojomo and Sweat would sub for a couple DBs.

It looks like this: Coburn at NT(1), Ojomo at SDT(3), Sweat at WDT(5), Graham at SDE (6i), ILBs play Under rules.  It's set to the boundary, so it's backwards, but the rules to this point are essentially the same as Under with Graham tucked in tight.  CBs follow the X and Z.  Sterns is Deep Safety.  Pretty sure it was exclusively Man-1, but you could get creative to mix in zones.

Here's the fun parts:

Roach at Whip (Down 8i) follows the (inline) Y-TE.  He's your 5th DL and usually WDE.

Ossai at Rover Safety/LB, yes you are reading that correctly, follows the (usually off) H-TE.   Play #1 he was lined up as a Boundary Corner isolated 1on1.  Play #2 he was Down 9 beside Graham. Against a FB set, he was Sam.  Against a wing, he was Up 9 next to Roach.  You get the picture, he moves around to keep unfair numbers in the box.  Think jumbo Kam Chancellor.

So this thing beat the shit out of Utah.  I guess Ossai wasn't seen as a mismatch for the Utah TEs because that was never threatened.  The interior pressure killed them. Roach, Graham, and Ossai could passively play contain and letting the DTs flush the pocket.  When you put 5 or 6 on the line, 1v1s are everywhere and that worked in our favor.  Against the run it works the same way with just too many big bodies trying to penetrate.  ILBs had a good game mopping up as well (shout out to Jacques).

I don't think it's repeatable with this personnel grouping against B12 competition but it was awesome for this game.

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In other notes, various pass-rush packages showed back up: Amoeba was back after not existing all season, Cowboy was back since LaTech/LSU, Buck was still in the rotation. Tite-Stack existed in short yardage when we didn't want to sub.

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TL/DR: The full 2018 playbook was back.  We added a preview of something close to what Ash might be installing.  And this year's Play #8 (and for me the key to the rout) was a super-jumbo version of an aggressive 90s defense.

I dig it. Instead of bringing in too many DBs that get beat up stopping the run, you bring in too many DL then dare them to try and toss one to a TE over the LB. 

I feel like it's a chance to shine for a LB in coverage as long as the TE isn't a great quick route runner.

Playing cover 1 is no big deal as long as the got damn CBs have some confidence and get their head around and cover. 

I guess the only downside to the 5-3 (or 5-2) is the tempo, they could possibly go hurry-up and gas the big boys up front.

Next year I'd like to see 4-3, 5-2, and a 4-2. Just never rush 3 unless it's got some serious twists or stunts and the guys are really going to able to get some type of pressure.

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